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Hubert, 1 – Cyber, 0
I still believe in Miami but maybe Boston can really pull the upset. We’ll see.
Like I said a couple of threads ago, I gave the Celtics about a 25% chance of winning the series when down 3-1.
I made them about 70% to win last night before I knew Vincent was out.
I’d say Miami is somewhere in the 40% – 45% range to win game 6 at home if Vincent is back, but that’s a question mark.
If the Celtics win game 6 they are probably 80%-85% to take game 7 at home given the atmosphere and momentum they’ll have.
Right now I’d rate this as close to a pick’m series, but I might still make Miami a very mild favorite.
All those stats on being down 3-0 or 3-1 were garbage. Most of those teams were inferior and didn’t have home court. It’s extremely rare for the superior team to be down 3-0 and still have home court. So the probability of the coming back was not good, but more likely than “experts” were saying on TV.
At the end of the day, the Celtics are way more talented than the Heat, and have been the front-runner all year for a reason. And those teams usually don’t get down 3-0, so I do think they’re a lot more likely to reel off 4 straight than their historical comps.
That said, so were we and so were the Bucks. But Giannis got injured, Middleton hasn’t been himself all year, and Randle is Randle.
(1) The Celtics are strong top to bottom and their players aren’t as one way as ours, which makes them less exploitable by Spo.
(2)The Heat roleplayers are incredibly smart and versatile even in their limited capacity, which allows Spo to throw a ton of looks at opponents.
They can shoot, drive, and don’t make many mistakes on offense or defense (not sure how great they are at individual defense but their team defense is usually very good)
(3) Bam & Butler are excellent at everything in a way that few stars can match.
You could make a strong case that each is the best defender in the NBA at their position.
Both are comfortable playing off the ball in a way that few stars feel comfortable playing. Butler does an excellent job cutting and, if the initial cut doesn’t work, he can seal his defender under the basket.
Bam can even facilitate as a center, he has games in the playoffs with 9 & 10 assists. Not many teams would feel comfortable suddenly running offense through a center if they hadn’t done so all year.
(4) I think we’re finally seeing the Celtics’s talent carrying the day. But the Heat still only need one win. Unfortunately for them the refs aren’t “missing” 3 fouls in the last 2min against the Celts.
I should say I still think the Heat win thanks to Spo and the difficulty of keeping this up for even 2 more games without running into bad shooting luck.
I’m hoping Butler can put them on his back for one game. I dislike the Heat, but I hate the Celtics!
I heard on one of the podcasts that the Pelicans may move Ingram for financial reasons. I think he would be a nice addition maybe for Fournier and picks. Maybe they do it to free up cash. Any thoughts?
The new ads on this site are literally cancer.
Even if the Celtics have an 80% chance of winning any game against the Heat, the probability of them winning 4 in a row is around 41%.
A more realistic large-scale win rate is 60%, which puts the probability at 13%. It’s still going to be tough for the Celtics to win two in a row.
Celtics don’t have to win 4 in a row. They just have to win 2.
And they don’t have to win 2 in a row. They just have to win the next game. After that, then they just have to win one game at home.
I get the odds. But there are ALWAYS exceptions to the odds. That’s why nothing is 100 percent.
You don’t get the odds if you say “there are exceptions to the odds” as a rebuttal. The odds clearly show that it’s possible for the Celtics to win 4 in a row even if the probability is merely in the teens. It’s not an exception to the odds. It is the odds.
Are you saying it’s true 100% of the time that nothing is 100% 🤔
can we all just agree – math sucks, and is waaaay overrated when it comes to living life 🙄
I disagree. I love math, and was going to major in it until I met calculus. Then I became a political science major and ended up as a technical editor. I still love math, though.
I can only 68% agree with this.
the worst part about having no draft picks is I have no interest in reading draft content and with the celtics/heat the only series left I have to wait for one of them to lose before I can engage with non-draft content.
The Celtics are favored by 2.5 in game 6.
I would like to reiterate – please pay attention, Cyber! – that I did not say the Celtics will win this series. I didn’t make any prediction at all.
I simply said that what happened in game 4 was extremely rare, and what’s about to happen next is going to be interesting.
I hope to god the Heat win. And not just because I’m doubling up my bet on them in game 6. I abhor the Celtics. I abhorred the Heat 20 years ago. There’s a big difference.
This is great for the Knicks, too, because the Celtics were on their way to cleaning house and this fake comeback probably buys another year for the same cast of characters.
From yesterday. I said:
cybersoze responded…
I would rather have DRose coming of the deep end of the bench if both Brunson and IQ went down in the playoffs than some green-behind-the-ears kid. But I don’t need a $14M player. I need a $1M player. Just looking at PG, here are a few names to chew on. Don’t vomit:
Goran Drajic, Reggie Jackson, Dennis Smith Jr., Frank Ntilikina
Who do we get to rot on the pines for $1M or less?
I can tell without even looking that’s not Cybersoze. That’s JK47.
Oh, and he’s absolutely right. It’s crazy to say you don’t want draft picks. It’s not an either/or situation. You can have Derrick Rose and the draft pick. And the fact that you included a guy (IQ) who was a draft pick three years ago proves that you want draft picks!
Frank is the original sin of this board, the original polarizer who started the million posts to say exactly the same thing movement. The 19th fiasco, the Fire Thibs and Trade Randle for negative assets bizzaro world all started with him. So definitely let’s get him again so we can finally face our worst enemy and… argue about his value for 10 more years!
You are correct! Too late to edit. Sorry, that was JK47.
And DRed, I’m with you on the draft. I kinda miss caring about it but that’s an addiction that fans of losing teams have, isn’t it? I recommend cold turkey.
Y’all remember when we punted on 33 and the consensus was there wasn’t anyone worth drafting? Go look at what Xavier Tillman did for Memphis in the playoffs this year. And keep in mind he was guarding LeBron friggin’ James!
That would have been our guy to guard Jimmy Butler. Instead we got a 2023 LA Clippers 2nd round pick. You know, bc that was gonna be the double draft, and Leon was playing 4-D chess to corner the market.
we got the detroit 2nd…. which got evaporated in the dump of burks and noel….
I have not done anything to change the ads on the site. It’s managed by a plugin – and supposedly anyone who is logged in should not see any ads.
I saw an ad before I logged in, but once I logged in, I don’t see any.
That said I will 2x check the settings.
how are you Mike K?
very rarely do we get to peek behind the curtain at our Oz…
anything exciting happening with ya…by any chance – are you rooting for boston to win at least one more?
the worst thing about the ads on the site is that I keep seeing ones for shows where I work. I go to this blog to escape my work not be reminded of it!
This is one of the few settings I have:
I can’t say I’ve been paying close attention, but gun to my head I’m rooting for Boston. I think there’s more bad-blood between NYK & Heat than Celtics. I just hope the Nuggets sweep whoever emerges from the East.
I’m logged in chrome/windows. I see no ads.
If I open a private/incognito windows – and I click on a link I see the overlay ad.
You can usually find someone like Xavier Tillman in hindsight.
But keep in mind he’s a PF who has zero ability to shoot the ball, which makes him unplayable on the majority of teams.
Kinda glad we could dump Burks and Noel to get Brunson.
Yup, you’re right Mike K — when I’m not logged in I have a banner at the bottom (laptop), previously hawking custom medals (how’d they know I needed one?), but now that I’m logged in to reply, it’s gone.
The Coder’s Code:
never a bug – always a feature
Half of this board wanted TIllman, since he led the NCAA in BPM his final year and was an older player whose early prime would be covered by a 4-year, $6.5M contract.
Weirdly, I wrote about this back in January 2021:
https://knickerblogger.net/2021/01/21/ny-post-elfrid-payton-clinging-to-knicks-starting-spot-with-stellar-defense/#comment-726593
tnfh, ptmilo, Silky, Alan et al. were all clamoring as well, as far as I can see
Hubert was as pissy as I was:
https://knickerblogger.net/2021/01/21/ny-post-elfrid-payton-clinging-to-knicks-starting-spot-with-stellar-defense/#comment-726607
oh man, that was that good shit back then…
I’m sure he’s great next to JJJ who can shoot, but for a team that lost to the Heat because nobody could shoot… maybe not so much
You can’t play non-shooters at any non-C position in the modern NBA
The continuing narrative of the Knicks “not having any room in their rotation” is a bit over the top.
Good stuff, Geo ….
I may lose my therapist next week – are you ready to take over E 🙂
finishing up my reply back to work…
it’s interesting – I have some understanding of the valuation of my request in relation to my own situation…
what I have not yet researched though is the cost to the company in terms of its business ethics record as well as any potential settlement owed to me – if my perspective and the associated details are found to be correct…
it could just be mania, but I’m very confident my perspective and the details can be proven out…
I do have some small idea in regards to their risk/cost, even without the research…it’s why I feel my request is more than fair (about 200k)…
if I don’t end up signing away my rights, I will find out exactly the value associated to their liability I guess…
anyways – I hope you are staying healthy and happy…
Sometimes when I read my own words I can see why people don’t like me.
Let this be a lesson then. From here on out, I vow to stop reading my own words.
let your own conscience be nothing more than a barely audible murmur in the background…
just heard the nuggets have a 9 day lay off in-between their games, that could be an issue for them…
Then you definitely shouldn’t trade first round picks for them, right?
Wrong sport, but I saw the Mets cut Gary Sanchez. Can any Yankee people explain what happened? I know he was no defensive stalwart, but he did earn two all star appearances….
Josh Hart is a career 35% shooter. Tillman is a career 28% shooter, and shot 26.7% this year on 0.5 3PAs per 36.
Hartenstein hit twice as many 3s as Tillman did this year.
The Mets just have too many catchers. They signed Sanchez as an emergency catcher because both Nido and Narvaez were on the DL now, but now Nido is returning and Narvaez is not far behind. When Narvaez returns they probably won’t be able to keep Nido, who is out of options, because the rookie Alvarez is one of the better players on the team and has clearly earned the starting job.
I see Vogey is back in the lineup tonight, batting seventh. Gotta get Vogey going, man. Gotta give Vogey, a long, loooooong leash my bros
The Gary Sanchez tenure with the Yankees is genuinely one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen in sports.
I feel terrible for the guy, always liked him and felt he was unfairly scapegoated for basically all of the Yankees’ failures. Whaddya know, we haven’t exactly been partying like it’s 1999 (or 1996, or 1998) without him.
But he did just completely fall off a cliff production wise in his mid 20s, after more than living up to the prospect hype to begin his career. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Lamenting the cherry-picked players we could have scored with draft-day trade-outs and while inflating how much difference they would have made to our current situation is a big part of what we do here.
Z-man, just thinking somewhere in some other corner of the internet fans of other teams are lamenting how they could have drafted IQ, Grimes and Mitch.
“Z-man, just thinking somewhere in some other corner of the internet fans of other teams are lamenting how they could have drafted IQ, Grimes and Mitch.”
Yeah, along with Clips fans crowing about how they fleeced us out of that 33rd pick to land franchise savior Daniel Oturu….
you can’t really say nobody was consequential for the incinerated pick and then when other picks are pointed out then call it cherry picked…to me people who do that haven’t really logic’ed their way into it so … surmised pretty tough to logic out of it…..
but that does give up this game that we’re playing… the one where you’ could never be wrong!
Humans aren’t meant to communicate this much simply by words on a screen, where tone and meaning and intent are very difficult to read. There’s a reason we respond to body language, facial expression, visual cues when we interact and talk and communicate — we’re essentially hotwired and evolved to do that. (And that’s why in days of yore, letters were always long-winded and flowery; people were trying to make sure they got their tone across.)
There’s also a reason that in most cultures, we observe social niceties before getting to the point even in a serious business meeting. We say hello, ask “how was your trip?,” talk about the weather in the city in which we’re meeting, etc., etc. and only then do we get down to business. No one just walks into the conference room and immediately blurts out, “Hey, how much do you want for your company?”
When someone simply expresses an opinion in text, or even worse, blurts out a question in a work email like “Hey, when can I expect that brief?” it naturally disjoints us. Pre-internet, only a social maladroit, even a supervisory one, would have just walked into someone’s office and immediately blurted out, “When can I expect that brief?” I suppose you’d get that sort of thing occasionally on the telephone, but even on the telephone, you get the advantage of hearing voice, tone, undulation, etc.
No one in other association precincts is really lamenting the lack of Quentin Grimes or Mitchell Robinson on their roster, especially so after checking out Quentin Grimes’s postseason performance. If the Knicks traded for some guy with those postseason numbers, we’d all be rightly scratching our heads.
You seriously don’t think any team would like Mitch or Quentin? Like you’re that much of a hater?
Wasn’t grimes a guy Ainge wanted as part of a Donovan deal?