Knicks Morning News (2023.05.11)

In the playoffs, Quentin Grimes is shooting .325 from the floor and .258 from deep. He’s averaging 7.4 points and 1.9 assists per 36 minutes.

These numbers speak for themselves. They’re terrible. Wasn’t going to bring them up this morning in the wake of the nice win, but some people can’t just keep their traps shut and laughably think they’ve collected some kind of W about the guy.

But by all means, if some of y’all want to gush over your favorite fanboy dreamboat, go right ahead. While you’re swooning, I’m going to root for my team to win the Heat series and the championship.

Grimes held Butler to his lowest point total and lowest fg% of the postseason. He’s also the reason everyone else can get to the basket again.

Neither of these is true, and teams aren’t worrying about a guy who never shoots and is shooting .325 from the floor.

RJ Barrett got to the basket just fine in the games Grimes missed. The Knick defense was perfectly fine in the three Cavs games without Grimes. Attributing to Quentin Grimes RJ Barrett’s or Jalen Brunson’s ability to get to the hole is simply laughable. I have no idea why some people persist in such things.

If the Knicks had even a league average 2 guard they’d be an actual contender. I’d much prefer that to the perpetual squinting to find a random block of minutes where the team did ok when the guy the other 4 players have to carry on offense happened to be in the game.

Like I said, if you guys want to like the guy and root for him, that’s great — but some of us aren’t going to be conned.

At this point, Quentin Grimes is more theoretical than Frank Ntilikina — and that’s saying something!

E’s incessant need to shit on a second year player shows he should never be taken seriously.

You should have just left it alone, rather than come on here and trash talk.

Yes, the spacing is better with Grimes than Josh Hart. I’d prefer a world in which the Knicks had a significantly better player at that position than either of those guys. Again, old news.

Brunson didn’t get to the basket effectively until the past 2 games.

Grimes has played all five games in this series. Brunson got to the hole at will in the three Cavs games Grimes didn’t play.

Why he is a topic of heated discussion I have no idea.

Me either. He’s essentially a non-factor, yet people want to attribute all manner of superpowers to the guy.

The discussion should be more imagining what the team could do if it had a better player in that position, of which the Earth holds many.

In terms of his production, it’s been very poor. That’s naturally going to occasionally pop up as a topic of discussion and I’m not sure why that’s a surprise. If RJ Barrett was putting up these numbers a big faction of this board would be calling for him to be sentenced to the electric chair.

10 posts by a single poster saying the exact same thing nine times with the tenth saying “ but he started it” does put a damper on a thread on the our most important win of the year.

Maybe don’t start threads after important wins by personally calling me names next time. It’s real easy to do.

And *really* don’t start threads after important wins by personally calling me names by way of serving as tribune of a 2 guard who had 8 points on 8 shots in 48 minutes and has been laying brick the entire postseason (on the rare occasions that he actually shoots the basketball.)

Personal name calling in the service of inane basketball analysis will never serve anyone well. Knickerblogger tradition.

Right — the hidden “toolbox,” the “bad foot,” and now the “bad shoulder and no one passing him the ball.”

More theoretical than Ntiliklna.

Rather than theory and hope, my preference is an actual good player and actual tangible production. If a faction wants to have a love affair and a betrothment with the guy, that’s great, it’s sports and we’re sports fans — but not everyone has shared tastes on the matter. Try to keep that in mind. My mind turns more to, “Wow, the Knicks have a real shot to do something, wouldn’t it be great if they weren’t playing anchors at the 2 guard position?”

If your view is that we could have a better player, great, we’d be better if we had a better player at any position.

My view, as it’s been since the regular season follies, is that QG and Josh Hart aren’t good enough to be relied upon to the degree that we all knew they were going to be relied upon in the playoffs, and it was going to lower the Knicks’ ceiling — and that’s exactly what’s happened. To a T.

All the rest is noise; there’s no reason to keep bickering over adjectives and details. I don’t think QG is a “bad” player. But he is in fact performing badly in the postseason. My fervent hope is that he starts performing better.

The funny thing is…no one is getting out over their skiis about Grimes.

I was going to let it go, but this one is a completely preposterous statement. I don’t think I’ve even seen a fanbase faction get “more out over their skis” over than the KB Grimes contingent has gotten with Quentin Grimes.

I probably never would have said a word about the guy but for the over-ski degree.

It appears that the “hidden toolbox” is even peeking its head out and seeing if the coast is clear. In the wake of hearty perennials like “the only reason JB and RJ are getting to the hole now is because of QG.” I mean … come on now.

My actual statement wasn’t that he wasn’t better than Frank — he obviously is — but that he’s more theoretical than Frank, which given today’s discussion, he obviously is. He’s the most theoretical player in Knickerblogger history and I wonder whether any other fanbases have similar players.

What is E even getting worked up about?

Nothing. He’s happy. Some people were apparently bucking for a fight and got one.

Jalen Brunson, yes, is a terrific basketball player. RJ Barrett has risen to the occasion and I expect him to in the rest of the playoffs. If Julius Randle can play a little bit better and they get a little more from whatever combination of QG/IQ/Josh Hart happens to be out there, this is still a very winnable series.

My premise is that the Knicks need way more from the 2 guard position than the bricklaying they’re getting from QG and JH. It’s hard to imagine anyone even disagreeing with this, much less getting massively litigious over it.

The Knicks are two wins away from the Eastern Conference Finals and E is trying to take a victory lap about the idea that they’re a fake “hustle bunny” team or something.

Wow. What I said was literally the exact opposite of that — that you can’t win in the playoffs on hustlebunny and (therefore, by implication) they aren’t winning in the playoffs on hustlebunny. Maybe I didn’t write it well, although I guess I thought it was clear.

They aren’t winning playoff games because Quentin Grimes or Josh Hart or anyone else is out-hustlebunnying the other team.

Clear enough?

I feel like I monitor this blog, ahh, closely, and I think the idea that we are over our skis about Grimes is totally wrong.

Can someone over their skis even tell?

(Ski jumper wipeout agony of defeat dude couldn’t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv368yWOSas)

(I mean, I still am celebrating the win; it was a great win and I’m still optimistic — but still wasn’t allowed to in an internet way.)

Oh, I was going to let this one pass, too — but of course people can’t just let it go and almost unbelievably are still continuing the name-calling scrum.

Classy move, during the playoffs when I’ve done nothing but root on the team, to accuse me of having a fake account (Pagliacci) and to accuse Pagliacci of being fake.

Well played.

You weren’t.

Hey, Geo … TNFH can weigh in too if he wants, but generally speaking (not my area, but I know a bit from experience managing, not legal advice):

1. There’s nothing they can sue you for; you haven’t done anything wrong or caused them any damage
2. Severance package for signature, decent chance … up to you whether it’s worth it … don’t undersell or undervalue yourself
3. Law against age and (probably) disability (don’t know quite enough) protects you solidly in California. Absolute bare minimum is that you can rest assured that whatever they come back to you with is going to incorporate the idea that you’re in multiple legally-protected classes.
4. It sounds like, very bare bones based on what you said, that you’ve told HR you have a disability and you want some kind of accommodation of it. Next step should be them coming back to you with an answer. But that could be off.

I’d still get a lawyer if I was you, but that’s kind of a personal facts and circumstances decision depending on what you want out of this and how much you want to “fight.” If they make you an offer you like, no reason to fight really.

Good luck.

Doomed as they are, and they’re extremely doomed, a Game 7 in the Garden would just be all kinds of awesome.