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In a 180° turnaround of the 2021 Hawks series*, the Knicks disintegrated the Donovan Mitchell’s Cavs, dominating the clinching game wire to wire despite the absence of Grimes and the injury that took away a possessed Randle for half the game.
It’s joy, it’s bliss, it’s a forgotten feeling, it’s an emotion 10 years in the waiting…
Let’s rejoice, let’s walk for a couple of days with a big dumb smile on our faces.
For once, let’s be happy to be Knicks fans.
Welcome to a sleep deprived, Grappa filled, jumbo edition of “My stupid recap”.
– We won the season series 7-2.
We kept them under-100 points 4 times in 5 playoffs games and destroyed them under the boards.
I don’t know how this can imply “good fortune”, after the J-Hart trade we were simply better than them.
The world was ready to clown us because we didn’t trade for Spida, and now we’re showing the world two huge middle fingers.
It’s a fullfilling sensation.
– The Cavs never lead in the game and, despite the fear induced by our deeply rooted PTSD, they never really threatened (6 points were the 4th quarter closest margin).Our guys were poised and collected for most of the game and kept the crowd out of it. Great performance.
– Once agains our depth made the difference. Obi started the 3rd for the injured Randle and scored 12 points in the quarter. IQ scored as many points as the entire Cavs’ bench, I-Hart gave his customary useful minutes.
It must be a strenght even against the hobbled Heat.
– Thibs did run dozens of circles around Bickerstaff and he had a near perfect series. After Julius’ injury he shortened the rotation, squeezed every minute from the Villanova Connection and perfectly rode Mitch’s monster game (21 2nd half minutes).
Now Eric Spoelstra looms on the horizont and I hope our coach will keep it going. It’ll not be easy.
– When it was clear we were going to end up in the 5th spot, I thought we would have been happy for the Cavs’ buyout of notoriuos Knicks Killer Kevin Love.
They would have been much better, and a worst matchup, if they kept him because with Allen and Mobley not a threat from outside they did let us keep Mitch and I-Hart protecting the paint and gobbling rebounds.
Now we will meet Love in the next round where him and Bam will give our centers a totally different look and I must admit I’m not feeling relaxed about it.
– The Cavs will learn, maybe. Maybe they’ll change coach, maybe they’ll trade Allen or whatever. They’re young but were media darlings and were erased by a much more maligned team, so they need to improve and they don’t have many avenues to do it (their cap isn’t good, they gave away picks, their bench is hollow). I’m curious.
– Daily rant (sorry).
Thinking about the Cavs made me think about the regular season in general.
I think load management, injuries and trades are making regular season numbers unreliable.
I’m aware of every opposing player that miss a game against the Knicks, because I watch all their games.
I don’t watch all the league games (albeit I watch a lot of them), I read most but not all the boxscores and I’m sure I don’t always remember who was missing in a game that didn’t involve the Knicks.
Playing, for instance, the tanking Blazers and winning 157-101 or 120-80 (both real scores) can do marvel for your numbers but it means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Or, as another example, we’re not the same team after the J-Hart trade. Same as the Nets after shedding KD and Kyrie and so on.
So, I wasn’t impressed at all because the Cavs were, according to the yearly stats, the best defense and the second best net-rating team.
I watched them playing with us, I watched them sneaking out wins against lower teams and I thought they were a good match for us.
Overrated, young, depthless and a bit soft. If only we wouldn’t have been DOOMED… 😀
Anyway, my suggestion is: don’t take regular season’s numbers too seriously. Context is everything.
End of rant.
PLAYS OF THE GAME:
4th 3:51 Immanuel Quickley misses driving floating jump shot
4th 3:47 Mitchell Robinson offensive rebound
4th 3:47 Mitchell Robinson makes dunk (NY 98 CLE 86)
4th 3:36 Evan Mobley bad pass (Jalen Brunson steals)
4th 3:18 RJ Barrett misses driving layup
4th 3:14 Mitchell Robinson offensive rebound
4th 3:14 Mitchell Robinson makes tip shot (NY 100 CLE 86)
Lot of plays to remember but I want to reward Mitch. In a moment where every Knick was clunking shots and the Cavs appeared poised for a last try, he cleaned the offensive glass and scored 4 huge points that bring down the shutter on Clevaland last hopes…
STATS OF THE GAME:
NY 48 CLE 30. Total Rebounds.
NY 17 CLE 4. Offensive Rebounds.
It was clobbering time under the glass. They were soft. We weren’t.
NY 20 CLE 8. Fastbreak point (what?!!?).
18. Knicks’ largest lead
0. Cavs largest lead (lead? which lead?)
They weren’t ready. We were.
Little General set the tone of the game with 12 1st quarter points to , then his shot went cold (2-11 in the 2nd half, 0-4 in the 4th quarter) but he was a calming presence when needed.
I love Geo’s Gregory Hines/Fred Astaire comp for his footwork 🙂
His slipping & sliding layup between Cavs’ Twin Towers was a masterpiece and had another dunk too!
Only 4 points but he played 47 minutes of high energy defense and brought down 12 rebounds.
I don’t think a cardboard marked “23rd pick” would have done the same, but I’m probably wrong… 😉
Since his trade we’ve been a different team.
Shook off a bad shooting start and play some of his most dominant minutes before getting injured. Point-Bully Randle (6 assists) feasted on every missmatch, bruised his defenders, scared the hell out of the Cavs’ frontcourt.
Let’s hope he can play against the Heat, we’ll need his physicality.
Funny bit: in his 4:27 of the 2nd he was -4.
He played so well that I didn’t notice his 4 turnovers. Efficient, focused, always in control and ready to pass (his teammates blew a couple of assists).
His first two games were awful but he reacted very well after that, rekindling the flame of our tortured hopes.
He’s not afraid of the moment and, for those who believes in it (like me) he has the clutch gene, he needs to reliably find the balance between oversized self esteem and level headed self awareness. He won’t be 23 until after the Finals.
he was 7-8 from the field in the first 3 quarters… then Rama jinxed him and he went 0-5 in the 4th (I’m not making it up). Rama!!! 😉
Under the circumstances the best game of his life (13 points, 18 rebounds, 11 of which on offense, 3 blocks). His Clint Capela imitation after Game-3 was on point, the Cavs were soft, they can be smacked around and he definitively did it.
Between his incredible 11 offensive boards there are two with which he basically closed the game in a 33 seconds span.
We’ll need this Monster Mitch against Bam.
Ties the entire Cavs’ bench with 19 points. Hot start when the Knicks were building their lead in the 1st half, went ice cold in the 2nd (1-8, albeit the only made was huge) but was money from the line (6-6, all in the 4th).
Another guy who doesn’t look afraid of the moment, all his 12 points came in the 3rd quarter, where the team needed to mantain his composure after Ju went down.
He had a strong series, giving us exactly what we need (and it wasn’t by no means obvious) and showing he’s not only a dunker.
A little less playing time but Mitch was playing great and wasn’t in foul trouble, he did well without shining as in other games. One of the best backup bigs in the league and he has margin of improvements.
He was probably one inch away from being fired after the 10-13 start, some hard-to-believe meltdowns and a few close home losses, and I still think it’s not perfect, but this year he has done things that were unthinkable 12 months ago, not only for his new flexibility, but because this year, for the most part, he really held everyone accountable**.
Bizarro Bearded Thibs is a much better coach and I happily take the loss on him, you can’t always have it right.
And won’t say anything more because today is a day for unabashed celebrations, not for rational arguments… 😉
Brian Cronin A+
The real MVP.
From the moment he understood his role he couldn’t be stopped.
His game thread intros willed the Knicks to win and were invaluable in bringing the Basketball Gods to our side.
Great job Brian, keep it rolling!
* there’s one huge difference between that Knicks team and this year Cavs.
For us it was a surprising dream season, with a short-on-talent team, expected to be lottery bound, that overachieved in a one-of-a-kind season.
The Cavs instead went all-in for Spida last summer, feeling closer to contention, and while they’re young and will improve and yadda yadda, their playoffs flop is in my opinion worse.
** To me “talking accountability but not doing it”, was one of the three main reasons because last year was a disaster.
Regular Nelson Mandela, Z is.
Knicks 6 to 1 to win the East, 19 to 1 to win the chip.
Which means … they’re technically inside the Morey Test … which in turn means we need a meta-debate over whether the Morey Test even applies when you get to it only in a Bayesian way.
But that debate can wait for another day. It’s playoff time.
Do better, Wikipedia!
Besides that being an insane conspiracy theory, no one thought that at the time. No one. We were all pissed off, but no one thought Riley was trying to force a brawl because the Heat couldn’t beat the Knicks otherwise. The Heat clearly (clearly) felt that they very much could beat the Knicks that season.
The reasons Utah moved on from him are blatantly obvious and it would have been an abject disaster had the Knicks emptied, or even partially emptied, the chest for him.
Let’s find the author’s name and wait him in the parking lot with a couple of baseball bats: liar!
Just 3 things:
1. Jarrett Allen & Evan Mobley combined- 10pts 13reb 8 assists 0 steals 1 block
Mitchell Robinson- 13pts 18reb(11 offensive!!) 1 assist 2 steals 3 blocks
2. I’m truly heartbroken for Julius. He, for the most part, did everything we wanted to see from him this series. Shot not falling? He played physical on defense and made mostly smart passes. A few brilliant ones too. And then in the elimination game when he’s shot still wasn’t falling, he attacked and was a bully in the paint while drawing fouls until his offense got going. I was so proud to see that. And then just as he got going, he turns his ankle again. When he came back out in streets, he was telling people “I’m good..I’m good”. I hope he’s right and can- with treatment- recover enough to play the next series. Miami has no one that can guard him outside of Butler- and Butler can’t guard him all game and contribute on offense the way he did in the Bucks series.
3. Say what you will about Thibs, but he got us ready for the playoffs. This first series is the proof. This team’s mindset was locked in, and I might be in the minority here- I did not expect them to withstand Cleveland in desperation mode the way they did. They came out and took the Cavs heart. If that’s not pride, commitment, and preparation- I don’t know what is. We have a very good chance of making it to the ECF thanks to Playoff Butler. We had a solid chance before, but you have to feel encouraged knowing Miami is the next opponent.
Max, sorry! I avoided jinxing the team, but didn’t think it applied to RJ as well.
Talk of jinxes aside, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell we’ll get past Boston or Philly, so whatever happens with the Heat series, I’m fine. I mean, it’s the Heat, and it would be more meaningful to beat them than almost any other team besides Indiana (even more than Boston or Chicago), so I want to crush them if we can (though we can’t, because we’re doomed), but reasonably speaking, just no way we get to the Finals.
As for the Heat, the real X factor is Spo. Better coach then even Bizarro Thibs. If we adjust, he’ll adjust back…unlike Bickerstaff.
If either Knicks or Heat win in 5, you gotta figure that ensures whoever the loser beat in the previous round fires their coach, no? It’s one thing if you were beaten by a team people underestimated, another if you were just bad.
Obviously, the Knicks are doomed, but if they can get to the Conference Finals, the Celtics are sloppy as fuck. They’re clearly a better team than the Knicks, but what does that matter in a short series? It’s not like they dominate the Knicks. The Knicks handled them very well in the regular season, and, again, when it gets late, the Celtics are shockingly undisciplined. Look at how moronic Smart played at the end of the last Hawks game!
As for the Sixers, Embiid is already hurt. All the Knicks would need is another Embiid injury and the series would be dramatically different (but yes, a healthy Sixers team would be hard to beat).
Can RJ or Hart at least make Jimmy work for his points? Can Julius (if healthy) or RJ be potent enough on offense that Jimmy has to expend a lot of energy trying to check them? And can Mitch and iHart do to a much better defensive rebounding team what they did to Allen and Mobley?
This will not be easy. I am scared. But what the hell? Let’s. Fucking. GO.
Like Max wrote, what’s crazy about this debacle from Cleveland’s point of view is that they gave away (FOR NOTHING!!!) a player that might have made a real difference in this series. Regardless of how old he is, Kevin Love has always been a tremendous defensive rebounder — in fact, according to B-R, of players who played over 1000 minutes this year, Love was SECOND in the league in defensive rebound percentage at 32.6.
And of course Thibs’s system is always vulnerable to stretch 4s and 5s. This truly amounts to franchise malpractice by the Cleveland front office.
Oh well – their loss, our gain.
I’m a bit apprehensive about this Miami series. I feel pretty comfortable that the Heat will not wilt at MSG, and we definitely will not have the coaching advantage (I’d be ecstatic if Thibs and Spoelstra somehow coached to a draw). The trapping defense we used against Cleveland will not work with Bam as the short roller, and regardless of Miami’s 27th ranked 3 point shooting, they really do have a lot of guys capable of hitting 3s.
That said – we do have a number of players we can throw at Jimmy (Grimes/Hart/RJ). I didn’t watch any of the MIL-MIA series but it sounds like Jimmy was just torturing the MIL defenders 1-on-1 and Budenholzer made zero adjustments. Our help/team defense is pretty solid, so one can only hope.
It would be nice if Grimes can get healthy by Sunday, Knicks could really use him this series.
#For us it was a surprising dream season, with a short-on-talent team, expected to be lottery bound, that overachieved in a one-of-a-kind season.#
I think that the Polyannas in here who started as delusional and continued as just lucky guessers had predicted a successful season based on D…
If talent won by itself sports would have been boring…
I thought that Phil Jackson sent Jojo English out there to fight Derek Harper on purpose but I didn’t think Riley wanted a brawl those teams legit hated each other and had a lot of hot headed men on them.
For me The Most Terrifying about Miami is the fact that they sent Milwaukee for early vacation.
Other than that I’m ready for THE Mother of All DOGFIGHTS Series!
Let’s Enjoy it!
Still glowing from last night! We have a legitimate shot at the Conference Finals which was unthinkable 6 months ago! And with how wide open the league is this year, I don’t feel stupid/crazy for thinking we have a non-zero chance to make and even win the Finals!
Mitch is the Tyson Chandler that was promised
I think we should be favored vs Miami even if Randle isnt fully healthy. They’ve been insanely hot from 3 and we have guys to throw at Jimmy.
Should be a great series for Rj as well as they dont have anyone to guard him outside Jimmy. But then that means he wont guard Brunson.
Yeah, that was a theory that made some sense at the time. But the idea that the PJ Brown/Charlie Ward incident was planned? How dumb do you have to be to believe that? Especially since almost all of the Knicks’ best players were on the bench at the time (one of the most hilarious things about that game was that Charles Oakley was the lone major Knick not to get suspended…because he had already been ejected in that game for him and Mourning swinging at each other earlier in the fourth quarter!).
While the Heat will beat the Knicks, it really is amazing how wide open the playoffs are this season. I could see pretty much any iteration in the Finals at the moment. The NBA Finals could seriously be a #7 seed or a #6 seed versus a #5 seed or a #8 seed!
Miami scares me a bit, since they’re playing so well, but their 3 point shooting is really unsustainable right now. They’re due for at least a little regression and they need Butler to do literally everything especially without Herro. This is more of a Take, but I also think the Bucks team is way easier to scheme to defend than this Knicks team. Their offense is so Giannis-centric and you can shut him down with late doubles that force mid rangers or great passes to Lopez. We’re going to be a much tougher defensive assignment, especially if RJ continues his heater. Like I said yesterday, Knicks in 6 (in 5 if they were fully healthy.)
Also, I like our chances against Boston and think we would take it in 7 games—they look very mortal
In agreement with this, RJ was our leading scorer in two games against the Heat this season.
Yeah, there’s a legitimate case for every remaining playoff team (except the Hawks) to make/win the Finals. I can’t remember the last time the league was this wide open.
Don’t underestimate the impact of the Heat not having Herro has on this series. He’s their 2nd or 3rd best player, a killer from 3 and a great spot up shooter. Who’s gonna pick up the slack if Jimmy Buckets doesn’t have it going?
Knicks in 5
It’s incredible. Probably even more wide open than that late 70s period I mentioned yesterday. Even in that era, when a team broke through unexpectedly to the Finals or a chip, their underlying quality was almost always confirmed in the next season — IOW, they were clearly on a distinct uptrend but just got to the Finals “early.”
This year, I could see a team or two teams make the Finals and still be decidedly meh next year. So there’s a very good case to be made that this is the most wide-open season in post-1974 association history. Literally zero of the remaining teams “scare” me.
That’s because Herro was guarding him, and they went right at him mercilessly
Philly scares me. If Doc decides to coach, that team would be very, very difficult for us. Embiid is really that good; Harden is much fresher than any other postseason I can remember; they’ve got a solid supporting cast. Boston seems too mentally weak, but again, I’d favor them over us. Philly, though… Watching in the regular season I remember thinking (and posting) that they would be killing us if they just decide to start playing. Nothing has changed from there.
This season was a success.
Period. Hard stop.
I say this because soon we will hear about “raised expectations”.
Bullshit! Every season, before the games start, we SET our expectations. For me it was make the playoffs and don’t get a 1st round bounce. Win a damned playoff series.
Done! The season was a success. Do I want more now? Absolutely. Once you’re in you want to win.
Of all the grades given, the one omitted deserves a ton of credit: Leon Rose. He didn’t give in to moronic fan and media pressure to trade for Mitchell. He kept his faith in Julius and RJ. He traded Cam and draft capital for the Hart of the team. He signed Brunson and don’t forget iHart. The man put together a very deep roster. The team is young. This team has a chance now and it looks like it will compete for the foreseeable future.
While I agree, again, Embiid is already hurt, ya know?
An 8 seed without their third best player just beat a 1 seed in 5 games in a best of 7. Said 8 seed was like two possessions from losing their second straight home game to the 10 seed in the play-in tournament and not making the playoffs at all.
Yes, Giannis missed a couple games, but this is still probably the most improbable series win post-1974, beating out the last 8 over 1 — Warriors over Mavs 2007. Nuggets over Sonics 1994, a five game series, isn’t really close.
Knicks in 4 against Miami. I don’t think they have a shot against our team without Herro. We’ll be waiting for the slugfest between Celtics and 76ers to finish for awhile. They’re going to bang each other up and come catch our buzzsaw.
“Regular Nelson Mandela, Z is.”
Nah, just someone with a low tolerance for creatures like yourself.
… I guess technically Sixers over Bulls 2012 was an 8 over a 1, but the league’s MVP ripped up his ACL early on in that one so it doesn’t really count.
Most PR flacks at least have the self-awareness and sense of ironic detachment to know what they’re up to. (And the street smarts to actually get paid for their hackery.)
I like our chances generally against the Heat, but definitely less so without Julius. Can’t imagine he’ll be back by Sunday.
Is Miami’s defense significantly better without Herro? The Knicks relentlessly targeted him with RJ and he was able to score repeatedly on him. Did they specifically play amazing defense against the Bucks?
the cavs were the toughest matchup wise since they did have the personnel to effectively shutdown one of our two best players.. and they did… they just forgot to show up on the other end…
now that they’re out of the way.. and for that matter the bucks…. things just get so much easier… especially for Randle.. i’m not sure what RJ is going to do now that he can’t beat up on Herro but i think he should have an ok time this series… and Bam generally doesn’t do all that well vs Mitch either….
we have an edge but again… if they’re hot from 3…. or if some key people decide to just disappear.. that edge just evaporates… a 5 pt net rating advantage is big but all sorts of things can and do happen to flip that script and a lot of that is tied to what happens beyond the 3pt line… if Randle is healthy this is his time to rejuvenate himself also….
looking just a bit ahead… the celtics and sixers are both pretty decent matchups also…. mitch plays embiid the toughest in the league and every game against the celts is wild with this squad even before brunson… and again they probably have the advantage but if it was very obvious that we’d just dispose of the cavs then these guys aren’t appreciably better than them…. if everything’s coming up aces then a finals run is def possible….
Everything else from here on out is gravy. Yes, I want more. I want a championship and we legitimately have a shot at one. But this season is a resounding success. Full stop. Playoffs. First round victory. Young players improving. We literally can do this all over again next year with pretty much the same squad. That’s fun and exciting!
As the resident optimist on this board, I’ve been wrong about so many things over so many years, out of hoping against hope that some random scrub or free agent signing or coach would turn the team around.
So let’s say this. We all make predictions that are wrong. Literally all the time. But now is a time for us all to just be fans and cheer together.
There are a lot of fun and interesting questions we can debate once the season is over.
Z-Man, not having Julius hurts but I still think we’re the favorites. Especially if Obi and RJ show up like they did against the Cavs.
Hail to Swifty!
One thing is the Heat aren’t going to shrink and let the Knicks mentally defeat them like the Cavs did. I think the Knicks are clearly the better team and will beat the Heat but it ain’t gonna be easy.
giannis missing games is a pretty huge deal… this isn’t anything like the warriors vs mavs…. in fact if you’re not counting sixers vs bulls this series has a lot more in common with that than the mavs getting ousted….
the mavs were strategically ousted with their best player neutralized and the other team playing out of their minds…
Stop looking ahead, guys!
We are doomed against Miami. DOOMED. Any suggestion otherwise is just taunting the cosmos. Got it?
Also, I know this got posted in the game thread, but I feel it deserves more attention and love this morning:
He’ll have had a lot of time to heal. Certainly makes them weaker; even if he comes back, he comes back hobbled… But we’d be seeing them in the third round, if either of us gets that far, and by then he’d be fully back.
So it’s really whether they can get past the Celtics with him being limited. If they do, we have to count him as full strength.
I saw that Alan and was laughing my ass off.
Also, the Brunson and Hart show is must watch TV, it’s like a father and his 8 year old son. Hart was munching on chicken wings while Jalen was talking and you could see he was getting annoyed but it was really funny.
For sure. Barring injuries, if we can make it to the ECF we shouldn’t and wouldn’t be favored against either Boston or Philly. Same thing if we made it to the Finals. But there’s no superteams this year (unless GSW gets over their season long funk) and a lot of remaining teams have major injury concerns. This is the first time since 2013 that I think we have a real chance to get to the ECF and the first time since 2000 that we have a real chance at the Finals.
I agree with d-mar that the Herro loss looms large in this series. He was a very tough cover for us during the regular season.
I guess my point is more that I don’t know that Embiid will ever be fully healthy in the playoffs, ya know?
giannis gets knocked out but still a champion ..
To be fair in regards to parity this season has been so weird from the beginning, that the seeding in the playoffs was probably not very representative of the teams themselves in the first place.
The Lakers for example improved massively after the deadline with their moves (so did the Knicks), so they’re not really 7th seed quality, the Warriors had a ton of injuries, the Suns integrated Kevin Durant (and lost him for a long time during the season affecting their seeding), the Nets lost Kyrie and Durant during the season, etc.
I’m scared of Jimmy Butler specifically so this series won’t be easy at all, but I don’t see the Knicks shooting themselves in the foot as many times as the Bucks did. Budenholzer was massively exposed and they just folded under the pressure.
Embiid might be able to play through it if it’s just a moderate LCL sprain and he has a couple of weeks to rest. It would really help if ATL extends that series tonight. Go Trae!
There’s a quick turnaround for games 1 and 2 (this Sunday and Tuesday), but game 3 in Miami isn’t until next Saturday. I think I would sign up for Randle being ready to go for game 3, largely because I think we can win one at home against the Heat without him.
It’s tough to analyze the matchup because it’s wildly in our favor…on paper, but the Heat, and by that I mostly mean “Jimmy Butler” but also Strus/Martin/Love, are terrifying right now. Our defensive scheme that worked to perfection against the Cavs might need to be altered–there’s no Isaac Okoro here.
I like our chances though. We have better defensive personnel when it comes to making Butler work than most teams in the NBA and Brunson should be able to torch these guys. If they put Butler on Brunson, it’ll be on RJ to punish whatever scrub that leaves for him. I’m much more confident in his ability to do that than I was two weeks ago.
The ripple effect of Durant’s toe on the line continues to wash through the NBA. Chances are that Budz would have been gone by now had they lost that series. Maybe the Nets are working on a second championship…
Ahem. Appreciate the enthusiasm. But we’re DOOMED.
I’ll give Giannis a week to chill and then send him our last summer selfie when i told him to come to the knicks!
I still am marveling at Obi’s MASSIVE impact, especially his timely 3-pt makes. His performance in the 3rd Q was sensational. Might have bee the difference in the game.
We’re gonna need all of that and more in the next series.
Jimmy makes me nervous, but I think we’ll really need ISM fully healthy and ready to go. Miami has a ton of long-distance dagger throwers that can change a game’s trajectory in an instant. That’s what scares me.
I agree with everyone who says the sniping based on past takes is wildly out of place right now, but at the same time I think it’s kind of poetic that literally every key member of this team had his detractors, both on this board and in a larger sense, at some point. Many of them still do.
We’re something of an island of misfit toys that just beat the pants off a team with 3 all-stars and a 4th guy who probably will be one. That’s beautiful!
I mean, Brunson and Mitch were inarguably our best two players in this series in some order. Both 2nd round picks, and both allegedly overpaid this offseason.
3rd was either Hart or RJ, so another 2nd round pick who a lot of people thought we were foolish for trading for, and a guy who was the 3rd overall pick but has been written off as a something of a bust by plenty of folks (guilty as charged).
We were famously given a grade of D+ by CBS for drafting Quickley, and plenty of us here at Knickerblogger thought that might be generous. The Obi Toppin story in New York has largely been one of disappointment. Quentin Grimes was forced to transfer out of Kansas and basically written off as an NBA prospect.
Even Hartenstein has played for five teams in five seasons. He seems like Mr. Uncontroversial right now, but a few months ago it was basically the consensus that he was the primary weak link on this team.
Julius Randle has, um, had his critics at certain points!
So yeah, stop sniping at each other, but also take pride in the fact that we’re making this run with an entire squad of guys who have been doubted and cast aside.
Picking on my words yesterday, now we can make “plans”… we already won something. It’s just a round 1 win, but it’s the best we have been doing since 2000, and it was only once (2013), so yesterday was a great win and this is a good season. Can it be great? I sure hope so, but now it’s “house money”, whatever we can get i’ll feel* great about it!
* – A little disclaimer saying that i may act contrary to these words if we lose to Miami (which we will, because we’re doomed), it’s just that i’m from the 90s and i really hate Miami.
TNFH, great post
Jimmy or NoJimmy i believe that Miami has the same mentality as Thibs’ Knicks.
They’ll play till they ll die or win.
They won’t back down.
I don’t fear them but they deserve respect.They ve won it.
Respect and kick in their lucky asses!
Jimmy is a beast, i’d like to have him on our side, but what i fear most is my favorite NBA coach – Spo – he’s amazing at adjusting and although i’m loving this new bearded Thibs, i’m having a hard time not thinking Spo will win the coaches battle. This time around it’ll certainly go to game 7, don’t know who wins, but we must win it or i’ll be furious for being against Miami.
It’ll be interesting to see if the increased reliance on the 3 ball will make playoff upsets more likely. The Heat are a weird team in that they didn’t shoot the 3 well in the regular season despite being pretty solid with more or less the same team the year before, but then they shot the absolute lights out against Milwaukee.
I thought that sniping and stripping asses were the nectar and the ambrosia of this blog!
Agree 200% 😉
just like to add I was right about everything except the Cavs beating us
Jericho Sims underwent right shoulder surgery,
so he’ll be out for the season.
#So let’s say this. We all make predictions that are wrong. Literally all the time. But now is a time for us all to just be fans and cheer together.#
The truth is that I’ve predicted many absurd things that went completely wrong in the past but lately i feel I’ve been efficient as Pythia!
No playoffs experience for Jericho, poor lad. 🙁
I’m secretly* rooting for the Hawks to make the ECF, and the Knicks too. For us to have a chance of a revenge series!
* – well, not so secret now. 😀
What happened to Sims? I mean, I know he was injured, but I never heard how or had any idea it was a serious thing that could need surgery. Does anyone know more?
I hear the board and will lay off the resident troll accordingly.
The operation was done to repair a torn labrum and cuff tendon.
I’ve no idea about when or how the injury occurred.
What the hell.
Curb your enthusiasm! We’re totally DOOMED!
Also: how come nobody has started calling this team “The Doom Patrol” yet? I’m ashamed of you all.
Thanks Max, it sounds serious. I hope he does well with the surgery
Farfa with his usual words of wisdom…
What does that mean? Better than Miami and worse than Celtics and Sixers? If that’s the case, no surprises there, it’s the same order as in the final standings of the regular season.
Doom patrol will be! 😀 All good, Farfa?
He (Sims) is expected back in time for the start of training camp.
I already follow the Knicks on Instagram so it doesn’t really matter whether you add on your bubble gum, Tiger Beat flackery or not.
Yeah, all good! Dare I say there’s a little light at the end of the tunnel?
Who knows as of yet.
Anyway, it would have been very, very uncool of me not to say hi to this wonderful board on the best Knick day of the last 24 years.
I distinctly remember that when I applied to be a contributor on this blog I got asked “Who’s your favorite Knick?”. My answer was “Right now I have two: Ntilikina and Mitchell Robinson”. Let’s just say that today I feel like the second part of that answer finally outweighs the ineptitude of the first one 🙂
[Extremely fake gang from “Cheers” voice] FARFA!
Yes, but the level matters. It could be, for example, Celtics even odds, Sixers 1.5 to 1, Knicks 25 to 1, Heat 30 to 1.
The Knicks were 32 to 1 when the playoffs started, now they’re only 6 to 1. That’s pretty good.
Hopefully it’s okay with everyone if I point out that Leon deserves Executive of the Year, Thibs deserves Coach of the Year, Randle deserves Comeback Player of the Year, Brunson deserves Free Agent Signing of the Year, Hart deserves Mid-Season Acquisition of the Year,and Mitch deserves Most Underrated by Z-man Knick of the Year.
Such a beautiful morning, although sad news about Jericho. I did want to see him banging out there.
Totally agree about our misfit toys. If at all, the only *divas* are prolly Randle and RJ, and even they are extremely humble in interviews — likable guys with flaws like all of us.
2022-23 Knicks are a very rootable squad, playing an unselfish game on the 50th anniversary of some very unselfish champions. I’m still crazy in my lawn chair waiting at the canyon of heroes, but of course I’m resigned to failure since we are all DOOMED.
Farfa is back!
That’s a train heading directly at you. Get the hell off the tracks or you’re doomed!
Ok, i see. Don’t know much about this stuff.
Doom Patrol meets the Island of Misfit Toys
This is a perfect depiction of how the Cavs frontcourt must have experienced all that Mitch savagery
Farfa! You are a tough act to follow, but Max has been truly awesome at the recap thing!
Max has been steady and sturdy as a 23rd pick cardboard… I mean Josh Hart all season, and has also grown in prose and flair under our eyes. I’ve loved everything about his work <3
“Max has been steady and sturdy as a 23rd pick cardboard… I mean Josh Hart all season, and has also grown in prose and flair under our eyes. I’ve loved everything about his work <3"
Just the latest in a long line of Italian Recap Artists dating back to antiquity….
It’s raining Italians!!!!
Farfa, great to hear from you!
Max, so spot on with your recap. It’s always been true that net rating doesn’t always tell the whole story but things are definitely getting crazier and crazier. But we have betting markets right now to balance things out!
I am so psyched about last night and have nothing else to add other than that I am extraordinarily proud of my son Mitchell.
Italians doom it better
LOL — welcome back, Farfa.
Hello, Farfa, and thanks, Max!
And The Island of Misfit Toys seems the right metaphor, and in some ways captures what I love about this team. Mostly undervalued castoffs who refused to accept a verdict of failure but kept working and kept growing and kept coming (back). From Julius on down, almost all of them were traded multiple times, late picks people thought were mistakes, etc. Actually, in that way we’re a lot like the Heat – our mirror in intensity and will. Not a lot of high draft picks on that team, and their stars weren’t acknowledged as stars for years. Gonna be a bloodbath.
Wouldn’t have it any other way.
Farfa deserves tons of respect for providing recaps during the dark days (I mean grading Elfrid Payton isn’t exactly a labor of love) He’s now passed the torch to Max, both deserve Poster of the Year consideration.
Saw an interesting post on P&T that I’d love to discuss here.
Miami beating the Bucks should be a total black eye on Mark Cuban and his tank job for a #10 lottery pick. You have Doncic and Kyrie and you intentionally throw a game to miss the play-in?
Miami didn’t do that and they just knocked off the #1 seed. You have 2 all-stars, a top 5 and top 20 player and you choose to throw a game to miss the play-in.
I actually watched games 1 and 2, and was thoroughly unentertained by both of them, so kind of abandoned the series in favor of living regular life. Not sure if any of the games I missed would have been fun to watch for layfans, but will definitely tune in to the semi-finals to see how this series establishes itself.
Regarding whether the Heat should be favored, it was just two weeks ago that we pronounced them dead (after losing to the Hawks in the playin). Since then they’ve lost their second best scorer while also setting scoring records in obliterating the best team in the league in 5 games. So you can make a compelling case for the Heat getting swept and for the Heat sweeping the Knicks.
It does seem that the variance of the modern NBA has now superseded the historic reliability of the 7 Game Series, making literally anything possible. (Which is ironic because unpredictability becomes the norm at the exact same time that betting becomes ubiquitous).
Miami beating the Bucks should be a total black eye on Mark Cuban and his tank job for a #10 lottery pick. You have Doncic and Kyrie and you intentionally throw a game to miss the play-in?
Yeah, this is what I was saying. Some years where the #1 seed is like the KD Warriors maybe you punt. You’re really not beating that team at all unless like 3 guys get hurt. This year though there weren’t any superteams. You have Kyrie & Luca, you can go beat anyone.
It also was reported that Luka and Kyrie were not on board with the notion of tanking…I wonder if they are brooding about it now…
“Actually, in that way we’re a lot like the Heat – our mirror in intensity and will. Not a lot of high draft picks on that team, and their stars weren’t acknowledged as stars for years.”
And clearly Leon Rose has fully embraced the Pat Riley hybrid-style approach to team-building. Team chemistry, or better put, organizational chemistry, seems critical to them, in contrast to a guy like Daryl Morey who is more of a bloodless moneyball guy. Our guys may be misfits, but they fit together and the whole is better than the sum of the parts. And Thibs seems to be in a great place right now, rather than wearing out his welcome like he seemed to be before he committed to the 9-man rotation and permabenched Fournier, Rose and Cam. And the Hart acquisition kind of galvanized the team even more.
I’m not sure how long the Thibs magic will last, but I think it’s pretty safe to assume that Leon Rose is gonna be around for the next few years…
It’s hilarious that every eliminated team in the playoffs is, like, “We gotta hire Nick Nurse,” and, you know, the dude just got fired for a team that didn’t even make the playoffs. I know there were behind-the-scenes reasons why he and Toronto weren’t working out, but it’s still pretty funny.
Let us also reflect on the fact that Jalen Brunson asked the Mavericks to sign him just last season to a below-market extension, and the Mavericks said no because they thought they might be able to trade him in a package for a star, and instead, lost him for nothing. When do things like that ever work out in the Knicks’ favor?!?!
Always remember the Pat Riley mantra: No rebounds, no rings. Can’t wait for him to get a taste of his own medicine next series!
And he turned out to be way better than the value the league (and for that matter, Leon Rose) slapped on him. He’s not even on a max deal and he’s, beyond any serious doubt, a max player.
To answer the question, that kind of thing never works out in the Knicks’ favor.
But we’re not giving him back.
Thibs is proving to be a lot less rigid than he has been in the past. He stuck with Obi over a struggling Randle in Game 4, then rolled with the small ball lineup in Game 5, and the Knicks were still able to dominate the boards with the small ball lineup.
He was never thought of as a great offensive coach, but he made the right lineup tweaks and somehow got great offensive production out of a roster that didn’t look great on paper. It’s an unconventional but effective offense, and it’s now playoff tested. We played the same way in the playoffs that we did during the season: we won the battle of possessions by crushing the opponent on the offensive boards and not turning the ball over.
“When do things like that ever work out in the Knicks’ favor?!?!”
If we win a title, we should send Cuban a Knicks championship t-shirt as a thank you.
“When do things like that ever work out in the Knicks’ favor?!?!”
Yeah, I didn’t have “we’re gonna find our best and most rootable point guard since Clyde (sorry Prigs and Linsanity) for literally nothing” on my bingo card…
iirc, one of the posters here wanted Brunson instead of DSJ as part of the KP trade…before anyone really knew how good Brunson would become. And now he’s a legit all-NBA candidate and great team chemistry guy on a contract that looks like the best bargain in the NBA right now, and we got him for a measly second-rounder as a fine for tampering.
If only we weren’t DOOMED…..
“one of the posters here wanted Brunson instead of DSJ as part of the KP trade…before anyone really knew how good Brunson would become.”
I knew nothing much of Brunson at the time but I seem to remember several people saying this much.
Which just makes it all the more strange that Cuban let him slip out of his hands. Brunson got better each season. By the time he was able to give him that extension where he would have made half of what he’s making how, he was already well worth that much.
I remember there being talk at one point of Cuban running for president. I would love for that to happen just so at the first primary debate someone would ask him why he didn’t extend Jalen Brunson.
The only reason i can think of for losing Brunson for nothing is the possibility of your primadona’s request to “make it look like an accident”.
I refuse to believe that Their FO was THAAAT Stupid!
It would be exactly like this scene: https://youtu.be/cUwSxqnRW-8?t=13
Personally i was reading in here about Brunson before getting him and thought that He was possibly one more of the usual KB trendy supernova fixations.
Hadn’t checked him well but wanted to believe in him.
What We Truly Got Was Messiah Material.
We were finally Blessed! DoomedBlessed!
I’m glad that most of us are focused on the most important aspect of this win…savoring the moment. Bathe in it. Soak it in.
Last night was the best, most dominant game of Mitch Robinson’s career. I recall a thought that I had years ago and dug through the Knickerblogger archives to find this: Mitchell Robinson might be the steal of the draft.
I’m not going to knock anyone specifically because damn it, I’ve been wrong many a time (people in glass houses and all that). I’ve curtailed posting much recently because of the hate on this team. It’s hate on Randle, on RJ, on Thibs. It’s been endless noise. I’ve been quiet so here’s the bottom line about how I feel about the members of the Knicks. I love this team! As a whole, they have the heart and passion needed to be champions. They are young and just maturing. The team has been put together the right way.
As for Miami, I think it’ll be a great series. We need Randle. We need Grimes. I think we’ll need Sims. I think this one is going 7 double-OT. The series will be won on a buzzer shot. Players will get carted off needing oxygen.
If—IF—the Knicks face the 76ers, it’d be nice to have Sims as a 3rd string center. He’s not particularly good, but he’s got a big, strong, quick 6 fouls to throw against one of the most physically dominant players in the league. Unfortunate he’s out for the year.
I think his perceived rigidity is really just coaching a certain way. He benched Fournier, Rose and Reddish. Maybe he knows something we don’t? Maybe he sees how they move and fare in practice and made calls when needed? Maybe he saw the need for Obi and Quickly to mature as backups. In short, we guess about his motives but maybe the 2-time coach of the year knows what he’s doing? Maybe.
New conspiracy theory:
Thibs was fired but has been kept on by his good friend Leon to save face. Johnnie Bryant is the shadow government that has been running the Knicks for months.
Brunson was asking for a completely reasonable contract extension for two years in Dallas! He asked for ~$11M/year two years ago! And Dallas continuously refused because they thought they might trade him! It was bizarre at the time and is obviously a complete disaster now. And I can’t remember anyone commenting on the situation who thought Dallas was making the right decision.
The most absurd aspect of it was that they could have just traded Brunson this season if they were intent on trading him! The other guy they extended last season they traded for Kyrie!! It was just such a stupid decision.
Wow. I need a gif that is me seeing some of these Bridges takes and then me seeing some of the Knox takes on that thread.
Also, nailed it.
The Glass Half Rebuiltsays:
June 26, 2018 at 23:35 • Edit
This team will be built around Mitchell Robinson in 5 years. Wake up and smell the shot blocking.
Since we’re being all nice and whatnot, I’ll take a moment to mea culpa on RJ. I have NO idea how or why the light went on, but he went from a complete anchor around the neck of this team, wandering around out on the floor like he was a lost first grader — for months — to a perfectly cromulent NBA starter. Suddenly and inexplicably.
He went from 6-10 utterly baffling and hideous and damaging decisions per game to maybe one per, which is probably what Brunson does, too. And from making only an occasional good decision to making loads of them.
We’ve seen the Barrett Swings before, so who knows how long it lasts. But damn it was a good thing it happened for the playoffs.
And I’ll admit it was really kind of fun to dump on him, as he was such an easy mark and so very deserving of vitriol. But hey, he gets a lot of credit for the Knicks winning this series. Tip of the hat.
It helps that he’s playing as if he’s taken a literal anchor off his own neck. He’s looked much more spry this series than he has in a long time.
Thanks guys for the kind words, I’m humbly flattered.
I will still be pretty surprised if RJ turns into an all star level player, but the path for him to become a good NBA player is not that complicated. He has to finish a bit better, knock off (or get much better) at some of his mid range junk and shoot 3s better, that’s basically it. He’s 22, he shot a career high in 2pt%, he seems to have made himself an acceptable FT shooter. I think he’s going to get there.
Prior to game 1 of the Cavs series (which, by the way, I did predict the Knicks would win in 5 games), I had lunch with JK47 at Lola’s in Long Beach.
Now Game 1 is at 10am Sunday, so I’m very confused. Do we have lunch there the day before? Do we go there for breakfast? Or do we just accept that our inability to recreate the precise circumstances that led to our round 1 victory will lead to our doom in round 2?
My guess is doom and acceptance.
The internet manipulates our desire and our quest for social approval and the comfort of groups of other humans, which in turn incentivizes us to one-up the previous statements of those whose approval we seek. To both join and to show how much we want to join.(*)
So hypothetical group-annoying “Joe Smith” starts out “annoying,” moves to “sucking,” moves to “really sucking,” and then by the end of the process is lucky if he escapes without being summoned for execution.
Which in turn turns the nuanced “center” into a relative wasteland.
This is virtually cliche at this late date. Not going to lose a lot of sleep over it. Is what it is.
(*) Monty Python’s Life of Brian sort of hit on this, albeit in an indirect and wry way when one of the characters wanted to join the People’s Front of Judea, only to be quizzed and interrogated by a doubting leader:
Leader: Listen — If you wanted to join the PFJ, you’d have to *really* hate the Romans.
Would-be member: I do, I do hate the Romans.
Leader: Oh yeah? How much?
WBM: A lot.
Leader: Alright — you’re in.
Begin a very aggressive write in campaign to force Silver to change the start time
RJ Barrett has always been an achievable uptick in efficiency from stardom.
That said, I’m certainly not going to pronounce him there yet. He had three excellent playoff games in a row to contribute mightily to a playoff series win and absolutely looked like a star in them. That did in fact happen.
Let’s see what he does next. That’s the fun part of the process.
(Nor is this a yesterday “business.” It’s a today and tomorrow business.)
Of course if he really did hear the board he would know that he is the resident troll.
In support of this conspiracy theory: pretty much anytime Julius talks about improvements to his game, he cites conversations he’s had with Johnny Bryant.
The Life of Brian is really an amazing movie. So much depth.
I am not changing my base assumption about RJ, which is that he will end up an average to slightly above average player. But he was fantastic in the last three games of this series, just when we needed him to be.
I am ready for the RJ breakout!!!
Just listened to Alan Hahn and Bart Scott on WFAN while driving around. First, I absolutely LOV Alan Hahn, he’s been great since he was back doing The Knicks Fix. Second, he went on and on about how by Game 5 you could see in the the Knicks’ faces that they KNEW they had CLE’s number. He talked about the fans in CLE would audibly groan and then boo whenever the Knicks came up with an offensive rebound. Lots of great stuff there, including pointing out how RJ was under enormous pressure to perform, maybe the most on the team…with guys like Stephen A. Smith calling for him to be benched…and went on to average 22ppg on 57% shooting.
RJ deserves major props, given how low expectations were for him and how well he responded. He might still crash and burn in the next round but gotta be proud of him for stepping up big time when it counted most!
Yeah, I need more than 3 good games before I change my opinion of RJ. Especially since he was terrible the first 2 games, including nearly losing us game 1. And he went 0-5 or something in the 4th last night.
“Of course if he really did hear the board he would know that he is the resident troll.”
I mean RJ was our worst rotation guy by a large margin in the regular season and I would imagine he’s still that guy. But he also made some hopefully sustainable improvements that were overshadowed by his trash 3 point shooting.
22 is pretty young but if he was going to be THAT GUY he’d probably have been better by now. At the same time, look at his teammates:
Randle was very mediocre at 22, Brunson was a pretty solid rookie, fans on Knickerblogger were putting IQ into all their trade packages, Josh Hart was about to have a terrible sophmore year that would see him sent into basketball purgatory for the next 4 years etc
RJ is a maddening player, the most maddening game-to-game and quarter-to-quarter I’ve ever cheered for, and he had a disappointing season.
While we knew he has some weak spots (lack of athleticism and of a reliable shooting come to mind), everybody was expecting a jump to “semi-star” (or to “above average starter”) status* , instead he gave us dozens of sleepwalking first halves, long stretches of matador defense, disengaged behaviour, worse-than-ever shooting slumps, hailstorms of dumb turnovers and bad decisions.
For instance he was widely considered an average to above-average defender, while this year his defense has been close to non-existent, until the playoffs.
His progress more or less stalled, I thought the failure was mostly “mental” and I didn’t change my opinion on that.
I’m very happy with his last 3 games (but at the same time I remember the first 2**) and I hope he’s finding the right balance to display his full potential, he’s still 22.
With his lack of fear for the spotlight and his “clutch” gene, he “only” needs a good shooting coach that help him stop with the everyday tweaking of his form, an intensive course from JB about “how to use the glass properly” and someone to help him coming to terms with his place in the NBA world.
If he does that he’ll be worth his contract.
At the same time I find the criticism toward him, especially when done during game threads (when the reactions are “naturally irrational” and everything’s a hot take) at least for the most part “acceptable” or/and understandable.
I can only talk for myself but I’ve never read “hate”, only frustration.
Maturity and accountability will help. Will see.
* Even people who deprecated the idea of extending him was in the “let him prove it one more year” camp, not in the “trade him for a couple of 2nd rounder”.
** Zach Lowe talked about him before Game-3 and at the time it wasn’t for good reasons.
“I’ve curtailed posting much recently because of the hate on this team. It’s hate on Randle, on RJ, on Thibs. It’s been endless noise.”
Glad to have you back GNYGNYG!
Kudos for The Life Of Brian reference, great movie.
Everybody brace for the sequel: “Life Of Brian (Cronin) – The DOOMED“
By the way, who was that wild-eyed Mitch stan who started off that old thread? 😀
“Randle was very mediocre at 22, Brunson was a pretty solid rookie, fans on Knickerblogger were putting IQ into all their trade packages, Josh Hart was about to have a terrible sophmore year that would see him sent into basketball purgatory for the next 4 years etc”
I think that’s what TNFH was alluding to in his Misfit Toys post…we have a bunch of guys who were left for dead or cast aside at some point, either here on KB or beyond. Not to mention the coach.
The Biggus Dickus scene gets me every time.
The Python stuff has aged so well, which is really rare with comedy. Life of Brian is 44 years old and it still slays. Holy Grail is almost 50 years old and it still makes people laugh.
I appreciate the artistry of the old Marx Brothers and Abbott and Costello flicks that I used to watch when I was a kid, but those movies didn’t retain their comic punch the way Life Of Brian has.
There are so many things that are satisfying about this team. Having a bunch of young players we drafted who have gotten better slowly over the last few years even if they are still inconsistent (ahem, RJ!)
Having a GM who was patient and didn’t cave in and trade those players and picks for a “star” who would have put our ceiling as a first round exit team.
Going against the trend of shooting a gazillion 3 pointers to win games. Seriously, all season the knock on us has been we can’t shoot. Well, guess what? In the playoffs even good shooting teams shoot worse than they do in the regular season. Defenses ramp up. We know how to win and we win in an “old school” way – rebounds, don’t turn the ball over, draw fouls and get to the line, mid range shots, iso and kick, Brunson with his old man little man footwork, etc. Defend the paint. TAke away the easy shots. Then break their back with momentum changing 3’s and rebounds. We don’t just jack up 3’s. We shoot them plenty but we’re smart about it but even if they don’t fall, we can still win.
No true top 5 superstars. No super friends who colluded to team up for an “easy” path to a title. Role players stepping up. A true team.
I fucking love it so much. I loved the mid aughts Pistons for that exact same reason and I feel like with all the nonsense with the Nets and Clippers, load management, etc…its just so nice to see a team win AS A TEAM and even better that it’s OUR TEAM.
I think part of the hope crushing season RJ had is that it never felt like he went on a run of good games.
He’d show extended glimpses in previous years, but at least in the latter part of this season it was relegated to good halves or good quarters of games.
He finally went on a run of good games.
“No stars, just talent.” — Griffin Mill
We shot enough threes, and well enough, to at least keep up with the modern game. We were 10th in 3PAr and slightly below average in 3PT%, so we held our own.
We did a good job of avoiding the worst shot in basketball, the long 2PT shot. Fourth lowest in the league in shots from 16 feet to 3PT.
But then that would make Thibs … the beard.
I have a feeling you haven’t seen a Marx Bros movie in a while. A handful of them remain excellent, and even the lame ones have good bits. They’re not for kids.
with RJ you really have to see over a whole year whether he’s actually implemented any meaningful changes…. he’s very capable at various points to play like he has… where he picks his spots… doesn’t force shots and shows a true all-around and relatively efficient game…. he’s done that during conf play at duke… the second half of his summer league debut…. the second half of his second year… and at other various 2-4 week stretches…
for whatever reason.. whether he gets enough confidence to try and stretch himself… or irrational exuberance.. he just starts doing more than what he’s capable of.. starts challenging people that he shouldn’t…. takes ill advised shots… etc.. which predictably tanks his efficiency….
there’s absolutely no reason to believe that this is different than any of those other times… this year he was starting to put it all together at the beginning of the year… but he couldn’t hit 3s and responded by taking even more 3s….
altogether he actually made meaningful improvements getting to the rim which could have been even better if he was more judicious with those opportunities… so what we’re seeing now is what he can do if he takes out some bad shot opportunities… along with those improvements… whether he can sustain it is going to take much longer to figure out than this particular playoff run since his problem is about maintaining a consistent mentality and not so much a skill issue…. but it’s a good preview into what we could have if he could just maintain this…
i’m not familiar with the big dick skit 🙂
i do though hum and sing: i’m a lumberjack and i’m okay, sleep all night and work all day…i love how the song progresses…
that seems to calm my nerves for some reason…who knows?
al mentioned WPIX the other day – that’s where i learned to love abbott & costello…
crazy wit and timing…the marx brothers just screams coke heads to me…i don’t know…that’s some frenetic shit though…
crazy shit, so the guy who caused me a panic attack last january and again earlier this month – sent me an email today, right after therapy, and i had scheduled the day off (i was foolishly checking on things on my day off)…
i was gonna wait til july 31st to help ease the transition…i have about 4 weeks of accrued time…i may have worked my last day today…
i don’t blame no one at work for this occurrence…i may not have clearly expressed my health status…i thought i had, but, evidently not…
this is a tough situation because the science of anxiety/ptsd is complex, fortunately though i do have a psychologist and psychiatrist assisting me in my understanding…
on top of that, my experience is the perception of a continuous adrenaline surge, driving me incessantly forward…my thoughts swirl, it’s difficult to connect ideas together and even tougher to connect words to express myself well…i ramble – a lot…coherence is not my friend 🙂
on top of that, for whatever kind of health reason – it’s very physically difficult (shake, stutter, cry laugh – i get it all) for me to address my own health issues…
i think it’s fear of admitting weakness…i’m not sure though…
all that makes it hard sometimes for me to get folks to understand what it is i’m trying to say…
i need to keep a good sense of humor, and try to be patient…and of course have a plan…
In game 1 RJ shot poorly (2-12) but had 4 rebounds, 6 assists 4 steals and only 1 TOV. Certainly not a good game, but not a terrible game either, especially when compared to the bad games of some other stars like Randle, Spida, and Garland. On balance, he had an excellent series, playing to a .171 WS48 and a 3.5 BPM, even better you consider that his one really shitty game was game 2, where a bunch of Knicks had a really shitty game, including Mitch. He even outplayed Darius Garland (.056 WS48, 1.2 BPM), the all-star we passed on to draft RJ. And in the last 3 games, he vastly outplayed the guy we almost traded him and the rest of the farm for.
yeah, if you all could please, quiet as a cat, i still need to go pick up my shit from the office – some cool books (berkely breathed) and a superman figure (kingdom come) – from the office this weekend…
i worked in the warehouse for years where i could see folks processing and shipping peoples personal belongings from their office…fuck that…i don’t want no one’s grimy fingers softly stroking supe’s smooth supple buttocks…
no sir/ma’am, will not have it…
Wishing you well, geo…hope the Knicks get you over the top!
Hang in there, geo. Sounds like you’re doing what you need to to take care of yourself.
you said something the other day that i keyed on – you noticed a decrease in daily stress AND, the ability to engage more in the care of your family…
committing to your health and home…leaving the vanity of “work” behind…
unless your a fucking artist – how fair is that your passion is lifelong, and and many instances a source or resources…
Sorry that’s going on geo. On another note, I do love Kingdom Come. Can’t say I remember how supple Supe’s buttocks was in it.
Sorry that you’re dealing with all that, geo.
honestly, the youngest of the three kids (21, 12 and 9) was the one who got me thinking how beneficial it would be if i used my mentoring (mostly military art stuff) skills to help the kids grow stronger…our family grow stronger…i’m pretty sure i can make being a single dad of three work for me…work for us all, but yeah, work for me too…
i’m guessing folks have been doing that since forever…i come from a not close family, but lucked in to a close family…
we’re a pretty honest and close bunch…the youngest really was pushing hard on Paw Patrol and then PJ Masks “team” themes…everyone has a role for benefit of the team…and, it can be fun doing that…
oldest has been doing real well since she moved back home, treated the space like a not well kept dorm…patient, persistence and the occasional sharing of my “honest” thoughts has really helped her to adapt…
ha, my home has a bit of a barracks vibe…
double ha – haven’t needed to share (read dump) my thoughts here for a while…
i guess i was mostly getting my fix of that at work…no more no more, no more no more, no more no more 😛
you made a good plan for your life and you have people who can help you follow said plan.
Family and health are much much much more important that work and “the vanity of work”.
Take your time, do things at your pace, lower the stress, don’t let anyone outside your “circle of trust” interfere with your plan.
Stay strong, we love you.
Can’t say I remember how supple Supe’s buttocks was in it.
it’s alex ross’ sexy old graying and somber superman…he’s just been hanging around for a long time…
it’s a bit of the reflection of the passing of lois lane…clark checks out…
greatly appreciate the sense of family and security to be found here…
just think how crazy rare that is in our world now…
compassion and empathy…not normally a whole lot of that here in the digital world…
thank you so much – it’s been a long time ya’ll have assisted me forward…
and, shit – now the knicks are good…how cool is that…way cool…
The aforementioned video of Josh Hart eating wings to the annoyance of Jalen Brunson.
Adam Silver needs to start getting better interviewers in these rooms. This run could be gold.
That’s a running gag – previous game it was popcorn
Geo, for your entertainment…
Geo, when you’re down, try to remember you have a friend this side of the atlantic, in Porto, Portugal, rooting hard for you to do well. How cool is that? 😉
geo the old AA “one day at a time” thing is operative in times like these. Focus on the good around and within you, be optimistic that things will get better, see both the blue sky and clouds as beautiful, and before you know it you will look back on these hard times and be relieved that they are behind you, maybe even chuckle a bit about how tough they were to go through. Sometimes the tunnel is too full of curves to see the light at the end of it.
Retirement is a very fuzzy concept. To me, it’s really just a state of mind based on having more “viable” choices than before. Not HAVING to do something ritualistic at an appointed hour but getting paid anyway is a nice option to have, but it’s only an option. You may find that working at something less stressful (or just less, period) for less money and with less long-term obligation is the way to go. I have lots of friends and colleagues who have experienced retirement in personalized ways, including simply not retiring at all! To each their own!
Geo, sending you positive vibes.
Did y’all see the thing about Jericho Sims? He had shoulder surgery today.Jericho Sims – ESPN
saw an application this week from porto…thought of you, the mountains, and smiled…
my dad was in AA…i dig in on that serenity prayer thing pretty hard…
Oh, that’s sweet, thanks. 🙂 Also have been thinking about you, as my best friend has anxiety and panic attack issues. He has a boss that is a prick, and so sometimes he has these problems at work. Right now he’s on a 2 week leave. I mentioned you to him, nothing specific, just for him to know that he’s not alone in this, there’s a lot more people going through stuff everyday. Life nowadays is so fast, so stressful, we all have to endure it the best we can.
Geo, your combination of empathy, understanding of the human condition, and integrity are qualities that would make you a great counselor. Perhaps a social worker for children. Was going to mention it the other day, and when I read about your wanting to mentor your fam, I thought I’d pipe up. To be universally loved by the diverse contentious KB mob makes you a unicorn. I hope you find the peace you so richly deserve.
Giants or Jets fans, any player (or position) you’d particularly like to see your team pick tonight? Giants are picking so late that I have no idea who will still be available. CB or WR seems to make the most sense, but I’ll trust Joe Schoen if he takes any position other than QB or maybe OT.
Jets fan here. I just want to make sure that A-a-ron gets protection. OT for me but I think Joe Douglas is thinking the same. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a trade that adds draft picks.
As long as Joe Schoen does anything other than that classic sign of Giants doom (i.e. reach for someone projected to go a full round later), I will be happy.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!
and a stud O-lineman would be just fine by me…
Hubert, Schoen did that a few times in last year’s draft. Hard to tell if it was smart or stupid, since the guys involved got injured.
That vaunted Boston defense has been pretty bad these last couple of games.
I’d like Jackson Smith Njigba at this spot I guess
Yeah, I thought he had a pretty bad day 2 last year. But he did so much right last offseason it was hard to get mad.
It’s like our boy, Leon. If you sign Jalen Brunson in free agency, you get an A for the summer even if you traded the 11th pick for peanuts.
There’s no rhyme or reason to hockey playoffs, which I guess makes them compelling?
The Rangers absolutely demolished the Devils in games 1 and 2 by a combined score of 10-2, and then back at MSG lose twice and tonight they’re getting their asses kicked in game 5.
The f***ing Eagles just got Mel Kiper’s #1 rated player at 9. That team is so loaded with talent it’s insane.
Carter also appears to have killed a teammate while drag racing so… that is why he was available to the Eagles at 9.
Meanwhile, the Jets took… a linebacker?
The Devils pulled a timeless trick that has a shockingly high success rate when executed at the right time: they turned to an unknown backup goalie in game 3.
It’s oddly predictable, too.
Game 3 was tied 1-1 in the 3rd period, Rangers up 2 games to 0, my friend says to me “fuck, if the Devils score one goal right now this kid’s gonna become a legend and they’re going to sweep the rest of this series.”
Let’s go Hawks?
From what I just googled, his teammate was driving a stolen car 104 mph with a BAC of .197 when he veered off the road and crashed into two poles.
Carter was racing him in a separate car, completely sober.
I can understand why he dropped but it seems like Carter’s being punished for someone else’s mistake.
Also seems like he’s gonna be wrecking the Giants for a very long time.
Quinn Snyder looks like an escapee from an institute for the criminally insane
Yeah, neither coach in this series has been all that impressive.
There’s the WR run Schoen didn’t want.
What’s up with the draft order? All these teams that had better records than the Giants are drafting in front of them bc we won a playoff game??
When did this shit start?
Yes, yes we do deserve this
Good Lord, the inhumanity