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  • Isaiah Hartenstein’s Redemption Arc Is Complete – The Knicks Wall
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, April 25, 2023 7:14:38 AM

    Isaiah Hartenstein’s Redemption Arc Is Complete  The Knicks Wall

  • New York looks to clinch series against Cleveland in game 5 – The Associated Press
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, April 25, 2023 2:05:17 AM

    New York looks to clinch series against Cleveland in game 5  The Associated Press

  • Cavaliers big men Jarrett Allen, Evan Mobley coming up short against Knicks – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, April 25, 2023 12:44:00 AM

    Cavaliers big men Jarrett Allen, Evan Mobley coming up short against Knicks  New York Post

  • Rick Pitino got new phone number after it was accidentally broadcast during Knicks game – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, April 25, 2023 12:27:00 AM

    Rick Pitino got new phone number after it was accidentally broadcast during Knicks game  New York Post

  • Knicks Notes: Barrett, Offseason Moves, Brunson, Robinson, Hartenstein, Thibodeau – hoopsrumors.com
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, April 25, 2023 12:12:00 AM

    Knicks Notes: Barrett, Offseason Moves, Brunson, Robinson, Hartenstein, Thibodeau  hoopsrumors.com

  • NBA Playoff Odds 2023: Knicks vs. Cavs, 76ers vs. Nets Series Betting Prices Revealed – Bleacher Report
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 10:24:04 PM

    NBA Playoff Odds 2023: Knicks vs. Cavs, 76ers vs. Nets Series Betting Prices Revealed  Bleacher Report

  • Hail to the King: Knicks’ Jalen Brunson Earns Royal Honor From GQ – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 9:06:15 PM

    Hail to the King: Knicks’ Jalen Brunson Earns Royal Honor From GQ  Sports Illustrated

  • Knicks’ Jalen Brunson finishes third in NBA Most Improved Player voting – Yahoo Sports
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 7:34:16 PM

    Knicks’ Jalen Brunson finishes third in NBA Most Improved Player voting  Yahoo Sports

  • How an Early Donovan Mitchell Playoff Exit Affects Jazz Draft Outlook – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 7:00:47 PM

    How an Early Donovan Mitchell Playoff Exit Affects Jazz Draft Outlook  Sports Illustrated

  • Pod Strickland: Episode 291 – The Strickland
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 6:15:29 PM

    Pod Strickland: Episode 291  The Strickland

  • Can the Knicks’ playoff success be the start of something big in New York? | Ball Don’t Lie – Yahoo Sports
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 5:59:33 PM

    Can the Knicks’ playoff success be the start of something big in New York? | Ball Don’t Lie  Yahoo Sports

  • Rick Pitino says accidentally giving away phone number during Knicks-Cavs broadcast is helping him recruit – CBS Sports
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 4:51:48 PM

    Rick Pitino says accidentally giving away phone number during Knicks-Cavs broadcast is helping him recruit  CBS Sports

  • J.A. Adande on LeBron passing the torch to AD, superteams, the Knicks & Phil Jackson – Yahoo Sports
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 4:22:49 PM

    J.A. Adande on LeBron passing the torch to AD, superteams, the Knicks & Phil Jackson  Yahoo Sports

  • J.A. Adande on LeBron passing the torch to AD, superteams, the Knicks & Phil Jackson – Yahoo News Canada
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 4:22:49 PM

    J.A. Adande on LeBron passing the torch to AD, superteams, the Knicks & Phil Jackson  Yahoo News Canada

  • Warriors’ Draymond jokes NYC might need 10,000 cops if Knicks win – SFGATE
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 4:19:23 PM

    Warriors’ Draymond jokes NYC might need 10,000 cops if Knicks win  SFGATE

  • WATCH: Josh Hart Sings Journey as Knicks Clobber Cavs – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 3:54:12 PM

    WATCH: Josh Hart Sings Journey as Knicks Clobber Cavs  Sports Illustrated

  • Rick Pitino Changes Phone Number After Lip-Readers Nab It From Knicks’ Broadcast – TMZ
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 3:39:00 PM

    Rick Pitino Changes Phone Number After Lip-Readers Nab It From Knicks’ Broadcast  TMZ

  • Jay Williams was spot on about Julius Randle’s no-show – Deadspin
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 3:03:59 PM

    Jay Williams was spot on about Julius Randle’s no-show  Deadspin

  • Against the Cleveland Cavaliers, the New York Knicks are getting whatever they want – Fear the Sword
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 3:00:00 PM

    Against the Cleveland Cavaliers, the New York Knicks are getting whatever they want  Fear the Sword

  • Knicks vs. Cavaliers Predictions & Odds for Game 5: NBA Playoffs, 4 … – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 2:34:00 PM

    Knicks vs. Cavaliers Predictions & Odds for Game 5: NBA Playoffs, 4 …  Sports Illustrated

  • New York Knicks vs. Cleveland Cavaliers picks: Who wins Game 5 … – The Arizona Republic
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 1:24:28 PM

    New York Knicks vs. Cleveland Cavaliers picks: Who wins Game 5 …  The Arizona Republic

  • Knicks EMBARRASSED the Cleveland Cavaliers in New York City … – WKYC.com
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 1:00:00 PM

    Knicks EMBARRASSED the Cleveland Cavaliers in New York City …  WKYC.com

  • Knicks: Jalen Brunson’s warning to New York after taking 3-1 lead … – ClutchPoints
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 11:12:46 AM

    Knicks: Jalen Brunson’s warning to New York after taking 3-1 lead …  ClutchPoints

  • Extra Extra: Knicks fans … control yourselves – Gothamist
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 11:09:00 AM

    Extra Extra: Knicks fans … control yourselves  Gothamist

  • The Secret to the Knicks’ Success? They’re Winging It. – The Ringer
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 10:48:53 AM

    The Secret to the Knicks’ Success? They’re Winging It.  The RingerKnicks aren’t buying into NBA history with Cavaliers on the ropes  New York Post 5 takeaways from Knicks’ Game 4 victory over Cavs  NBA.com

  • Knicks’ Tom Thibodeau makes smartest coaching decision of his life – Daily Knicks
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 10:00:12 AM

    Knicks’ Tom Thibodeau makes smartest coaching decision of his life  Daily Knicks

  • Pete Davidson Shoves Fan Who Gets Too Close at New York Knicks Playoff Game – Yahoo Entertainment
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 8:58:28 AM

    Pete Davidson Shoves Fan Who Gets Too Close at New York Knicks Playoff Game  Yahoo Entertainment

  • Tracy Morgan Sends Warning to Wrong Team After Knicks Win – Heavy.com
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 8:47:45 AM

    Tracy Morgan Sends Warning to Wrong Team After Knicks Win  Heavy.com

  • These Knicks are changing and none more than Tom Thibodeau – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Monday, April 24, 2023 7:40:00 AM

    These Knicks are changing and none more than Tom Thibodeau  New York Post

  • 113 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2023.04.25)”

    @donnie Hey, I was pro-Butler trade too. A little off on what it would take to get him, but willing to trade and then max him. (it’s toward the end of the thread)

    It was interesting to see a reasonable Bob Neptune, though. Forgot he was a decent poster before he went postal. Fox News poison….

    Seems like people were rejecting a trade of (the pick that became) Barrett and Kanter for a 29 year old Butler.

    In the upcoming offseason, will you trade RJ and two unprotected firsts, in 2024 and 2026, for Butler? Assume the Knicks lose to the Bucks in 6 in the 2nd round.

    You get a 2 year window to win a title, at a time that no other team is dominant. otoh you lose Barrett’s upside.

    That Butler game, man. When the Hawks won the first play-in game, it looked like this iteration of the Heat was done. Obviously, Giannis could feel better, Bud could finally wake up and start scheming to stop the only guy on Miami who can hurt them, etc. But somehow, that freaking team never dies.

    Even with the Bucks down 3-1, I’d still view this as an even series (assuming Giannis is ok) The Bucks are a way better team and have 2 of the next 3 at home. Also, i doubt Butler has another 56 point game in him and the rest of his team kind of sucks.

    We’re clowning the Cavs for having no depth. The Heat are starting a guy the Cavs cut.

    Ironically, Love would actually be the Cav’s ideal bench player against us. He rebounds and shoots, the 2 things they need (and 2 more things than anyone else on their bench does).

    Assuming we take care of business with Cleveland, the rational part of my brain knows Miami would be the better match up for us. We’d have home court. They don’t have Tyler Herro. We’ve beaten them in the regular season.

    But there is something about Miami that scares the shit out of me. Like I know Jimmy Butler won’t give a shit about MSG being crazy loud. He won’t be rattled by it at all. He lives for this shit and he’ll probably play better at MSG with the crowd going crazy. And it’s Miami. It will be a bloodbath no matter what.

    i dunno where this idea that the cavs don’t have any depth comes from but they have as many useful pieces on their bench as they do ours…

    their (only) problem has been their main pieces channeling game 7 john starks in their various losses… any of those guys have something resembling a normal game for them and there’s vastly different discussions being had including whatever their reserves have been doing.. which is mostly fine and expected in a series like this….

    Swifty, I’m counting no chickens before they’re hatched, but I think both potential round 2 matchups would be terrifying. Miami has Jimmy, and we have nobody who is an ideal defender to throw at him. And if Milwaukee comes back, that means Giannis is healthy again, and we’ve got no one who can stop him, Brook Lopez is a nightmare on both ends for us, and between their length and Jrue, they’re one of the few teams that has a shot to make Jalen irrelevant.

    Obviously, we have to take care of business against Cleveland first. But if we accomplish that, I’d feel queasy about both potential opponents.

    Oh, right right. Debating potential round 2 matchups is pointless, given that we are doomed.

    We have the idea that the Cavs have no depth because they get slaughtered in every lineup that doesn’t feature their big 4. The Knicks ignore every player not named Darius or Donovan. The reason those two are playing poorly is that there’s 4 guys in the paint every time they try to drive.

    I certainly would rather take my chances that Jimmy won’t be able to carry this awful team through a second 7 game series in a row than face Giannis and the Bucks. Herro and Oladipo are out for the playoffs, and as good as Butler is the Heat NEEDS him to be transcendental every single game from now on to win.

    Oh, I forgot, doomed like a mfer! I’m only saying that if we weren’t doomed, we would beat the Heat because we have Josh Hart.

    What amazes me about that Jimmy Butler performance is that he was literally hobbling around at the end of Game 3.

    But the lack of urgency and intensity from the Bucks is also amazing. Kris Middleton looks Melo-like on D, and I mean Melo 2020’s version. Giannis had no juice at the end of that game, probably out of shape after the layoff. DPOY candidate Lopez was exposed as immobile.

    The Heat have Butler and Bam and then not very much else except a bunch of very streaky 3 point shooters. They look bad on paper, but if Strus, Robinson, Martin, Vincent, Love, and Lowry hit a 3 or two that they normally miss, they can blow a game open pretty fast. Over the course of a season, it’s not a great recipe for consistent success, but in a 7 game series, they have a sword to live and die by for sure.

    To get the discussion back on its proper track…

    I think the Cavs would match up very well with the Heat, probably taking it in 5 games. They would not stand a chance against the Bucks.

    While doomed for this series with no chance of advancing, Knicks would have been a good match up against the Bucks. Well, as good as anyobe can match up against the best team in the league.

    I can see Brunson hunting for a Lopez switch and turn him into last years unplayable Rudy Gobert. RJ gets another favorable match up with this version of Middletown. Would like our chances especially if we weren’t doomed and Giannis is not peak Giannins.

    Obviously, we have to take care of business against Cleveland first. But if we accomplish that, I’d feel queasy about both potential opponents.

    Totally. But then I have to tell myself that if we do win against Cleveland, which we won’t because we’re doomed, but if we do, the season is a huge success no matter what happens afterwards.

    And yeah, I know. Miami is weak on paper. Yada yada yada. But it’s the f**ckin’ HEAT. It will be a bloodbath. It will get super testy by like game 2. Randle might get a hundred technicals LOL.

    Which is to say…the bucks might be better but for the NBA, a HEAT KNICKS second round matchup will be Must see TV.

    I know we’re biased…but the NBA is SO MUCH BETTER when The Knicks are good.

    I guess what I’m saying is that the element of CHAOS is much higher if we face The Heat.

    I love Josh Hart, but he wouldn’t be the main reason to beat anybody, or do you feel confident about winning a series without our best player (BRUNSON) ?

    Any second round series in the playoffs is going to be tough. There are only eight teams in the second round and they all managed to win a playoff series so they are all good, which the Knicks are not. So, of course this discussion is moot.

    I don’t care who we face in the 2nd round, i’ll be super happy if we get there! Best season in a long long time!

    *** but the NBA is SO MUCH BETTER when The Knicks are good.***

    The NBA has doubled its value 12 times since the Knicks last appeared in a conference jknkjjjhjkuhhughhhhyyyyyyy

    I’d way rather play Miami than a healthy Giannis and the Bucks. It’s not even close for me. Last night’s game aside, imo the Bucks are arguably the best team in the NBA when healthy. They lost 2 games with Giannis out and one game due to an all time great playoff performance from Butler with Giannis probably a step below 100%.

    Miami is always scary because they play hard, are well coached, and have 2 all star caliber players. There are no bums in the 2nd round. But we beat them when them were healthy. They aren’t now and we’d have home court. That’s a good scenario if we get to the 2nd round. You can’t ask for much more other than Butler getting hurt too. 😉

    So, um, my baby walked off with my phone while I was beginning to compose a typical Donnie Walsh masterpiece of a post, and now that I have fished it out of the toilet and dried it out, I see that she also added her own commentary to it and hit POST COMMENT. (Since she probably finished that post better than I would have anyway, I’ll just leave it up and let it speak for itself)

    “The NBA has doubled its value 12 times since the Knicks last appeared in a conference”

    So it’s doubled it’s value in 24 years? When you say it’s doubled it’s value, that sounds impressive. Over 24 years? Not quite as impressive.

    It would have tripled it if the Knicks were relevant. 🙂

    Look, all I’m saying is I had friends who don’t really follow the NBA texting me after Sunday’s game saying how great the game was to watch on TV, etc. And I believe that’s because when you watch a Knicks playoff game on TV, it is a special viewing experience because the crowd is so into it, celebs on the front row (who are real fans), etc. Helps when Breen is announcing too. But it makes for good TV.

    I was at the last regular season Knicks game vs. the Heat, a game with major stakes in the playoff seeding. We won that game going away. We also beat them in Miami a couple of weeks earlier. And that was with Herro.

    If the goal is to advance to the conference finals, there is no doubt in my mind that MIA is the preferred opponent.

    And while we are most definitely doomed, in the almost impossible case that we close out CLE, we will likely have exorcised some first-round jitters (namely, Julius, IQ, and Grimes) and shaken off some injuries (Julius, Grimes, Brunson and Hart), while MIA ain’t getting Herro back. I’ll take my chances with Lowry, Vincent, Robinson and Martin. They don’t really have an answer for our two-headed offensive rebounding monster, while the Bucks do.

    But whatever, just get me past this portent of doom, and I’ll be happy with taking our chances against either team. CLE is not going to just roll over, and Spida can go for 50+ on any given night, just like Jimmy did.

    Nitpick stats (since 2000):
    – Teams that lead 3-1 are 131-7, which is a 5% chance of a comeback;
    – Doc Rivers is 6-3, which is a 33% chance of a comeback;
    – Taking out Doc Rivers (he’s not our coach!), teams are 125-4, which is a much better 3.1% chance of a comeback;
    I hope i’ve brighten your day! 😉

    After 15 tries Donnie finally had a kid who wants to post on KB.

    The next generation!!!

    So it’s doubled it’s value in 24 years? When you say it’s doubled it’s value, that sounds impressive. Over 24 years? Not quite as impressive.

    No? They clearly said the NBA doubled its value 12 times, not once.

    Nitpick stats (since 2000):
    – Teams that lead 3-1 are 131-7, which is a 5% chance of a comeback;
    – Doc Rivers is 6-3, which is a 33% chance of a comeback;
    – Taking out Doc Rivers (he’s not our coach!), teams are 125-4, which is a much better 3.1% chance of a comeback;
    I hope i’ve brighten your day! 😉

    And 1 of those 4 is because of some of the most bullshit suspensions in NBA playoff history and I will go to my grave believing we had a legitimate shot at beating the Bulls stolen from us.

    Since she probably finished that post better than I would have anyway, I’ll just leave it up and let it speak for itself

    LOL! I thought you were a spy and that was some sort of code, but now your explanation seems more reasonable! 😀

    “I love Josh Hart, but he wouldn’t be the main reason to beat anybody, or do you feel confident about winning a series without our best player (BRUNSON)?”

    Jalen Brunson is sort of a given at this point (are there still any holdovers from the position that we overpaid for him?) Obviously we are a lottery team without him. So anything positive we accomplished this season is due to acquiring him.

    But there are still folks who think we stupidly overpaid for Josh Hart to reach a higher level of purgatory at the expence of a 10-1 chance of landing a difference-maker in the draft. Regardless of the merits of that position (and I think it’s one of the least defensible positions ever taken on this board, but that’s just me) there is zero doubt in my mind that the mid-season acquisition of Josh Hart is the main, if not only reason we are even thinking about beating the Heat in the second round. Without him, we are either already eliminated (possibly in the play-in, but if not, then in a quick first round exit) or would not stand a chance against whoever we faced in the second round. Josh Hart gives us a guy to throw at Butler, just like we’re throwing him at Spida. He has been a huge difference-maker from the moment he got here.

    You can’t ask for much more other than Butler getting hurt too. 😉

    Not me, i want Jimmy to be there witnessing the Knicks advancing to the ECF, and the whiners (Miami fans) to not have excuses to throw at us.

    They clearly said the NBA doubled its value 12 times, not once.

    I take it by “they” you mean me and my collaborator on that post, and though the baby clearly stated her case, my work was open to misinterpretation, which I apologize for.

    Knicks were 3-1 against Miami in the regular season & 0-3 against the Bucks.

    Granted the Knicks only played one game against the Bucks post-Cam benching. And that game featured both Deuce & Fournier, as RJ was out and Portland wouldn’t be fleeced for some time yet.

    The playoffs are a different beast (AKA Butler is a beast), but I’ll still take the team we’ve shown we can beat our the team we haven’t.

    Of course the impending DOOM renders all that moot.

    #jknkjjjhjkuhhughhhhyyyyyyy#

    I thought that was an antijinx mantra…

    #jknkjjjhjkuhhughhhhyyyyyyy#

    Translation: JK47 Knick Josh-Josh-Josh Hart JK47 uhh ugh why?

    JK47 is rooting for the Knicks. Specifically, the very very talented Josh Hart. But JK47 understands that we’re also doomed. Ugh why?

    Josh Hart gives us a guy to throw at Butler, just like we’re throwing him at Spida. He has been a huge difference-maker from the moment he got here.

    That Josh is super important, and the trade was a huge success, i agree of course. I think Brunson is the main piece, Randle’s ressurgence is the 2nd, but we get valid contributions from a lot more players than usual. We’re easily 8-deep without having a big dropoff, and with the way Obi is playing we’re now 9-deep (unless we discount Randle for the time being! LOL).

    #It’s the new Bing Bong#

    Just put it on Google translator to listen How it sounds and it was detected as Finnish but sounded as Chinese!
    Ain’t bad for Knicks-Nba expansion in China as the chinese bing bong!

    And 1 of those 4 is because of some of the most bullshit suspensions in NBA playoff history and I will go to my grave believing we had a legitimate shot at beating the Bulls stolen from us.

    Being from the 90s i agree with every jab at those Bulls teams, but my numbers were from 2000 to 2022. 😛

    Another interesting stat is that since 2000, the 138 series that got to 3-1 mean 6 series per season. We’re in the 1st round and there’s already 6 series that got to 3-1. 😮

    Maybe i’m posting too much, it’s a holiday here (Liberty Day). Off to the mountains then, to not bug you all. 😀

    “We’re easily 8-deep without having a big dropoff, and with the way Obi is playing we’re now 9-deep (unless we discount Randle for the time being! LOL).”

    That’s the thing with being deep. You can have one of your best players be off and others can make up for it. Obviously we won’t get to the Finals if Randle continues to play poorly, but for a few games or one series, that is the luxury that we have right now with this team.

    Obi and Deuce have outperformed every Cavs depth player.

    If Rose & Fournier got some consistent run to shake off the rust, we might have 12 guys more effective in the series than the Cavs 5th man.

    “Just put it on Google translator to listen How it sounds and it was detected as Finnish but sounded as Chinese!”

    I thought it kinda sounded like a new snow tire from Nokian…

    #I thought it kinda sounded like a new snow tire from Nokian…#

    LoL!
    (Had to Google Nokian too! Firstly i thought of it as a cheap Chinese tire!)

    In an Athletic piece that just came out, Fred Katz interviewed an anonymous assistant coach who is scouting the Knicks-Cavs series. He wrote the following about the Knicks’ defense in general:

    I know from a rankings standpoint, they weren’t as high, but from a process standpoint, I think they do just about as good a job as anyone does in terms of just taking away the paint, taking away the rim and free throws and not allowing you to find a rhythm close to the basket. They dare you to make the extra pass. They dare you to make 3s. And I think from a process standpoint, that’s probably the best way to do it.

    Sometimes, teams are just gonna make shots and it’s not gonna look as good, but for the most part, they’re playing the percentages.

    Hart has added such a dimension for them, too. It was such a great pickup for them, just the way he plays and the spirit and energy he plays with. You can’t quantify that. I just think they have a good process of how they play defense. And sometimes, it’s not gonna be great. You try to win all 82, but it’s not realistic. They played defense enough to win 50 or 60 games. There were probably a handful of games you look at and some teams made 15 to 20 3s, and you’re not gonna win that way. But they take away the high-value shots. They take away the rim. They take away the paint. They take away free throws.

    When I read the above and saw the part about our process involving conscoulsly avoiding fouls, it reminded me of how the first quarter played out…how the Cavs had piled up a bunch of fouls and our starters hardly had any. And the two players on our offense most responsible for that were RJ and Mitch, especially the latter. The anonymous assistant above pointed out that one of the reasons the matchup is working out so well for both Mitch and iHart is that while CLE’s bigs are formidable, neither is a threat from 3.

    The way Cleveland plays, with two big men who can’t shoot, always has them hoping for a trade-off: their spacing is bad, but they hope to dominate the paint enough that it doesn’t matter, and that Mitchell and Garland are good enough to find space anyway by themselves.

    The problem is that when a team can match them inside and still dominate the boards, they’re screwed having to hope against reason that both Garland and Mitchell are hot. Mitch and Hartenstein playing so well just breaks their gameplan in half.

    Agreed, Bruno, but another key is that we have the leverage of excellent defenders against smallish scoring guards in Hart, IQ, hopefully Grimes (but Deuce in a pinch), and to a degree, RJ. I would also say that both Mitch and iHart are mobile enough to not be abject disasters on the perimeter when switches occur.

    The weak links in our defense are Brunson (always), Randle (when he’s hurt or in a fog), and Obi (who is less of a negative in this series because a) he’s playing well and b) Cleveland has no depth at PF so when either Mobley or Allen are out, Obi (or Randle) are not defensive liabilities. Everyone else in the rotation (and Deuce) either a plus or a super-plus defender with physicality, and there’s enough to win the possession battle over 48 minutes unless two of Garland-Spida-LeVert go nuclear.

    re: Brunson, while he can and will be hunted, he deserves credit for using a) his brains to draw offensive fouls, and b) his strength+low center of gravity combo to “survive” mismatches enough for the help to come.

    That said, I really didn’t like how easily Garland was able to turn the corner on him in the 3rd Q, especially going left. He literally got everything he wanted. But at least he didn’t draw Brunson into foul trouble, and by the end of the Q the momentum switched back. I still remember the sense of panic when Brunson had 3 fouls in the first half of Game 1, and it took an heroic effort from Randle to keep that game from slipping away.

    Speaking of Randle, sounds like he is still pissy about being benched, gave very terse, edgy responses, said that his ankle is fine…practiced fully, hasn’t spoken to Thibs about it.

    “We won the game….At the end of the day, I just want to win. You know I’m a competitor and want to be out there, but like I said, it’s Thibs’ decision.”

    In response to a question about his shitty 3rd Q defense, Randle scoffed: “That’s for you to judge,” he said. “I don’t know.”

    “We won the game….At the end of the day, I just want to win. You know I’m a competitor and want to be out there, but like I said, it’s Thibs’ decision.”

    This seems like a pretty stock response, no? I haven’t seen any video, but it sounds normal to me. The defense thing…less so.

    Maybe Thibs is doing a bit of the old Phil Jackson Jedi mind tricks on Randle to trick him into becoming his all-NBA self again

    In response to a question about his shitty 3rd Q defense, Randle scoffed: “That’s for you to judge,” he said. “I don’t know.”

    Consider it judged.

    “This seems like a pretty stock response, no?”

    It’s not “inflammatory” but it suggests that he still is pissed about it and takes no responsibility for it.

    And that’s the problem with Julius…he just doesn’t seem very self aware about his on-court mistakes and inconsistent effort level. Compare what he said to Brunson’s response when he got benched earlier in the year: “I mean, I wouldn’t have played myself either, the way I was playing defensively…”

    Or the say Donovan Mitchell took responsibility for the loss: ‘I played like shit…”

    Julius doesn’t seem to have that capacity, to his detriment.

    But credit to Thibs for not coddling him like he has in the past. Not only for Julius’ sake, but for his teammates who see that even the team’s only all-star will be held accountable if he is derailing a game, by poor lpay, selfishness, or both. This is pretty much the first time that has happened, and I don’t think it would have happened if Brunson and the supporting cast didn’t give Thibs the confidence to feel that they could win without him.

    In terms of Geo’s inquiry late yesterday about the name, Reese Bobby was Ricky Bobby’s (Will Ferrell) father in Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby

    Early on, when Ricky was like 11, Reese went to Career Day at Ricky’s school, got chased out of school by the cops, and gave Ricky the following parting words of advice:

    If you ain’t first, you’re last.

    Well, of course — as a fellow KBer noted — this is pretty much just a southern-fried version of the alleged perspective of “Team Pessimism” during the multiple episodes of regular season Knickerblogger follies, to wit:

    Championship or Bust

    Ricky becomes an elite NASCAR driver, then crashes and falls on hard times. After a long hiatus, Reese returns to try to get Ricky out of his funk, becoming his de facto driving coach and during the conversations and back and forth, Ricky summons up the old “if you ain’t first, you’re last” slogan. Whereupon Reese looks puzzled and confused and says something like “If you ain’t first, you’re last … huh, what???? … who told you that????”

    Ricky responds (words or substance), “You did, Dad, in school that day. When I was 11.”

    Reese summons up the ol’ memory bank, finally recalls, and then says, “Awww, Ricky — I was high as a kite when I said that.”

    Going into the series the 2 biggest keys for the Knicks winning was how much better they were rebounding than the Cavs and how much better their depth was. Those 2 points have played out exactly how the Knicks hoped.

    The Cavs bench shooting like crap is something that was a legit possibility and concern for Cleveland, this really isn’t a fluke. Plus while the Cavs had the 2nd best net rating in the NBA alot of it was built up vs teams below .500, the Knicks had a better record than the Cavs vs teams above .500 and obviously beat them 3-1 during the regular season.

    Plus while the Cavs had the 2nd best net rating in the NBA alot of it was built up vs teams below .500, the Knicks had a better record than the Cavs vs teams above .500

    This. Katz wrote about it, and it’s pretty stark – don’t exactly remember, but the Cavs were something like .500 vs better-than-.500 teams, and the Knicks were like .667.

    Yeah, the more I read previews of the series the more confident I was about the Knicks winning. Never thought they’d win in 5 so don’t think it’ll be that easy but I’m not surprised to win it in 6. The Knicks are a legit good team, it’s OK to believe in them lol

    Regarding Jules. I think he struggles with his ego and his pride. I think he excels due to his ego and his pride. He is not gracious to others on his team that excel when he sucks and does not own his sometimes crappy play, but at least he isn’t FOS and didn’t blame his ankle-which could actually be a problem, not owned. I think he will be smoking in game 5. He’s a great player.

    Who’s gonna be the next team eliminated?

    Hawks
    Wolves
    Clips
    Cavs
    Griz
    Bucks
    None of the above

    Donnie, given the Hawks Celtics is the first game tonight, it’s most likely the Hawks, but I’m actually more confident that the Nuggets will take care of business and eliminate the Timberwolves.

    After Deuce’s made 3, he’s now above .300 for the season + playoffs!!!

    Did Snyder design a play with the goal of getting Trae a shot from the logo?

    “At this point Knicks might be favorites to win the East.”

    We are as doomed as Tuco with a rope around his neck…or was that Blondie?

    Not a good look when you lose after being up by 13 points at home with 8 minutes left against a team missing one of its best players.

    So let me get this straight…right now we have a better 2023 playoff record than the Celts?

    I’m gonna sip me some Reposado and enjoy the moment. Hopefully we will escape certain doom and I’ll have even more reason to drink by this time tomorrow!

    Ice Trae is a tool. But a useful one for grinding down leprechauns. The door opens a little wider for our merry band of doomed ballers.

    Suddenly I appreciate Trae Young a lot!

    Boston remains what they were in the regular season, a very good, very deep team that is prone to looking straight up fraudulent at times… I’m not sure they can beat the Sixers if Embiid ends up healing properly.

    Mazzulla seems way over his head. Even so, maybe the Celts are one of those teams that needs their backs against the wall to play their best. The Bucks might be the same way. In any case, knowing that neither team will have a walkover in the first round is comforting no matter how it turns out.

    When all is said and done, I can’t see how you could leave Durant out of the best 10 players of all time. His combo of size and skill is just ridiculous.

    There’s something not right with the Suns. There’s no way they should be struggling at home with the depleted Clips

    I fear the Lakers might be heading to the Finals. Yuck….

    The Suns simply haven’t had enough time together. I know KD is an absolute all time great but you can’t play 10 games or whatever with some guys and be ready for the playoffs. I bet the Clippers at like 4-1 before this series, because those odds were stupid. Granted I’m going to lose that bet, but the process was right. Ty Lue is a terrific coach and the Clippers are deep, there’s no way a slapped together Phoenix team should have been that big of a favorite.

    DRed, without both Kawhi and PG13, this is a colossal mismatch, no matter what.

    Oh well, the Suns just scored 50 points in the 3rd (yes, fifty), so I guess they responded well enough lol.

    I agree that they should have looked more dominant but at the end of the day, closing it in 5 games is good enough. Now comes the real test for them, should be a great second round series with the Nuggets.

    “should be a great second round series with the Nuggets.”

    And even though it isn’t what some folks want, GSW-LAL would be a very compelling series.

    DRed, without both Kawhi and PG13, this is a colossal mismatch, no matter what.

    Kawhi was healthy when I bet on the Clippers

    My Butler take was reasonable but wrong, but at least I dropped a good “there’s no way Porzingis is worth $150mm” in that one.

    In the upcoming offseason, will you trade RJ and two unprotected firsts, in 2024 and 2026, for Butler?

    I would do that trade faster than Z-Man would say yes to his 8th beer before 10am.

    “I would do that trade faster than Z-Man would say yes to his 8th beer before 10am.”

    …sez the dude who just said he never thinks about me. Loving that free condo in SoCal, though!

    The “Sixth Man of the Year” can’t even sniff playing time in the closing minutes of a close playoff game. And another reserve guard does!

    The “Sixth Man of the Year” can’t even sniff playing time in the closing minutes of a close playoff game. And another reserve guard does!

    Maybe they should have created the “Seventh Man of the Year” to give it to Brogdon! 😀

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