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  • Sputtering Pistons host Knicks tonight | 1450 AM 99.7 FM WHTC | Holland – WHTC
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, November 29, 2022 7:25:00 AM

    Sputtering Pistons host Knicks tonight | 1450 AM 99.7 FM WHTC | Holland  WHTC

  • NBA Trade Rumors: 3 trade ideas to help jumpstart the New York Knicks – Sir Charles in Charge
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, November 29, 2022 6:45:00 AM

    NBA Trade Rumors: 3 trade ideas to help jumpstart the New York Knicks  Sir Charles in Charge

  • Can the Knicks get in a groove and fix their 3-point shooting woes? – The Athletic
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, November 29, 2022 6:41:22 AM

    Can the Knicks get in a groove and fix their 3-point shooting woes?  The Athletic

  • “Multiple points of opposition” ? Jeremy Lin addresses Carmelo Anthony’s rumored jealousy and who squashed Linsanity – Basketball Network
    [news.google.com] — Tuesday, November 29, 2022 4:45:00 AM

    “Multiple points of opposition” ? Jeremy Lin addresses Carmelo Anthony’s rumored jealousy and who squashed Linsanity  Basketball Network

  • Knicks confident they can fix league-worst 3-point shooting woes – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 8:23:00 PM

    Knicks confident they can fix league-worst 3-point shooting woes  New York Post Tom Thibodeau, Tony Soprano, and the New York Knicks  DeadspinNate Robinson on Knicks’ Tom Thibodeau: ‘Army serious’  Elite Sports NYKnicks Forward Obi Toppin ‘Still Confident’ From Deep  Sports IllustratedView Full Coverage on Google News

  • Who should be the Knicks closer: Cam Reddish or Quentin Grimes? – Empire Sports Media
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 6:58:30 PM

    Who should be the Knicks closer: Cam Reddish or Quentin Grimes?  Empire Sports Media

  • Immanuel Quickley could miss time in latest Knicks injury blow – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 6:54:00 PM

    Immanuel Quickley could miss time in latest Knicks injury blow  New York Post

  • “Michael Jordan Would Have Given Up the Bulls for Knicks”: Jerry Reinsdorf Threatened to Sue MJ for ‘Multi-Million’ Deal – The Sportsrush
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 6:43:23 PM

    “Michael Jordan Would Have Given Up the Bulls for Knicks”: Jerry Reinsdorf Threatened to Sue MJ for ‘Multi-Million’ Deal  The Sportsrush

  • This Knicks-Raptors Trade Features Pascal Siakam – NBA Analysis Network
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 5:07:31 PM

    This Knicks-Raptors Trade Features Pascal Siakam  NBA Analysis Network

  • NBA Power Rankings: Knicks Defense Holding Them Back? – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 3:00:03 PM

    NBA Power Rankings: Knicks Defense Holding Them Back?  Sports Illustrated

  • Kemba Walker set to return to NBA after exile from Knicks – Yahoo Sports
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 2:41:00 PM

    Kemba Walker set to return to NBA after exile from Knicks  Yahoo Sports

  • This Knicks-Mavs Trade Features Julius Randle – NBA Analysis Network
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 1:49:37 PM

    This Knicks-Mavs Trade Features Julius Randle  NBA Analysis Network

  • Former Knicks guard Nate Robinson on battle with kidney failure, NBA days, more | Q&A – Elite Sports NY
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 1:25:08 PM

    Former Knicks guard Nate Robinson on battle with kidney failure, NBA days, more | Q&A  Elite Sports NY

  • ‘My Comparison’: Ja Morant Revels in Matchup vs. Knicks’ Derrick Rose – Sports Illustrated
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 10:35:14 AM

    ‘My Comparison’: Ja Morant Revels in Matchup vs. Knicks’ Derrick Rose  Sports Illustrated

  • Pete Davidson and Emily Ratajkowski spotted at Knicks game – CNN
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 8:31:00 AM

    Pete Davidson and Emily Ratajkowski spotted at Knicks game  CNN

  • Pete Davidson, Emily Ratajkowski go public at New York Knicks game – SILive.com
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 8:23:00 AM

    Pete Davidson, Emily Ratajkowski go public at New York Knicks game  SILive.com

  • Loss to Grizzlies highlights mediocre Knicks’ most dire need – Daily Knicks
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 8:00:00 AM

    Loss to Grizzlies highlights mediocre Knicks’ most dire need  Daily Knicks

  • Kemba Walker nearing deal with Mavericks after Knicks flop – New York Post
    [news.google.com] — Monday, November 28, 2022 7:35:00 AM

    Kemba Walker nearing deal with Mavericks after Knicks flop  New York Post

  • 49 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2022.11.29)”

    Good stuff from Katz today on Knicks’ 3-point woes and secondarily the impact of teammates, offensive philosophy, playing to players’ strengths:

    “For example, take Jalen Brunson, who has been the Knicks’ most-reliable source of offense and could enter the All-Star conversation. Brunson is a career 37 percent long-range shooter. This season, he’s down to 32. But the dip is not because he suddenly forgot how to shoot. It’s because of the way he maneuvers in New York.

    In Dallas, Brunson played alongside MVP candidate Luka Dončić, which meant more time off the ball, aka more smooth 3s with his feet set. But an increased role with the Knicks means creating more off the dribble. Brunson is sinking a respectable 38 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3-pointers this season, in line with his career accuracy, according to Second Spectrum. He’s at 28 percent on pull-up 3s, also in character for him. But he’s taking more pull-ups and fewer spot-ups nowadays.”

    He also notes that RJ is down to 29 percent on catch-and-shoot 3s, 10 points worse than the last two years. That seems like the thing that would revert back to a more normal established baseline.

    However …..

    I noted this earlier and wasn’t entirely sure I bought it and am still not sure but it is completely true that RJ Barrett significantly changed his free throw form and pretty clearly did a lot of reps with the new form. Could that process have impacted his 3-ball form and, with it, 3-ball results? I do believe it’s a possibility, perhaps even a distinct one. It’s even more of a possibility when we remember that even at his best, he’s not even really close to being a “pure” or “natural” shooter. He has clunky form. (Which helps explain his inconsistency, but that’s a separate topic.)

    I’m definitely suspicious.

    On the speculative spectrum, it is possible that RJ’s 3-point shooting woes are partially mental. Despite the bravado he exudes, he recently expressed concern about his 3 -point shooting while intervening in a conversation Obi was having about ” just letting it go”(referring to Obie’s 3-pointers) and said his shot was “do do”. RJ never seems to shoot in a relaxed manner (cf. Bol Bol, who has an amazingly feathery touch)

    Bol Bol has been good but not yet the true breakout star I thought he would be based on his first couple of games. Great guy to have though of course.

    I just found out I have to take my daughter to have two baby teeth pulled at the start of the USA-Iran game. Massive bummer.

    Going to be an amazing game I think, win or go home always makes things exciting.

    I just found out I have to take my daughter to have two baby teeth pulled at the start of the USA-Iran game. Massive bummer.

    when my son was 3, i knocked out his front tooth in a pillow fight. just saying, accidents happen.

    Feeling some judgement here! 🙂

    Just doing the math: Donnie has 16 kids by now and each has had 20 baby teeth. I imagine you are like the Dennis Rodman of teeth pulling, I get it.

    This is a shark tooth situation, so the teeth aren’t wiggling yet and professional help is required. She is going to get laughing gas and I am going to ask for some too.

    @ Owen — perhaps your daughter absolutely *needs* to stream the game live or she can’t calm down for the procedure. Just sayin’ the dentist office may be wired for futball and/or a phone may be nearby 😉

    She will be watching PJ Masks which, from what I hear, is only permitted in the dentist’s office. And has no idea what is going to happen.

    up in the morning before the break of day
    i don’t like it, no way
    eat my breakfast too damn soon
    hungry as hell, before noon

    went to the mess hall on my knees
    “mess sergeant, mess sergeant feed me please!”
    mess sergeant said with a big ol’ grin
    “if you wanna be airborne you gotta be thin”

    for the record, i was just a five jump chump…still though, i remember how hard the ground felt hitting it…they give you those shitty round parachutes to drop down with at jump school…

    just picked up the PJ Masks ultimate super-villain collection…major score…it’s for the youngest, nine…only mildly tried to talk him out of it and tell him he’s too old, cuz, fuck it, i wanna check them out too…

    Fred Katz is possibly the best Knicks beat writer I’ve ever read. He interviews well too.

    As to our three point shooting, we have one “proven” shooter and he’s permabenched. RJ and Randle are just not good, and I doubt that they ever will instill much confidence from there. Brunson is so-so, I don’t see all that much improvement, but he is so good from 2 it hardly matters. IQ, Grimes, Cam, and Obi are woefuly inconsistent, maybe there’s hope that they settle in, but is anyone confident enough to bank on it? Maybe with enough reps, one of them breaks out, but I’ll believe it when I see it. The idea of Hart being a “stretch big” was fool’s gold. Dont even mention Mitch and Sims.

    On the positive side, Fournier’s benching is giving opportunities to others, but possibly at the expense of wins.

    In my estimation, so long as our starting lineup has RJ, Randle and Brunson taking the vast majority of the shots and Mitch playing the 5, the 3-point conundrum isn’t going away. No matter whether it’s Grimes, IQ, Fournier or Cam, the reps just aren’t gonna be there unless and until one of those 4 guys is replaced.

    I’m definitely suspicious.

    it’s simply called critical thinking 🙂

    before i forget again…just wanna thank you E for always being so cool when i poke on you a bit…

    i appreciate it a bunch…tough to tell some times who can roll with that kind of stuff…you seem to be blessed with mucho confidence and self-esteem…

    anyways, thank you sir…

    Halliburton has been putting up truly absurd numbers. 40 assists without a turnover in the last three games. Just stupefying.

    “Halliburton has been putting up truly absurd numbers. 40 assists without a turnover in the last three games. Just stupefying.”

    The whiff that keeps on giving…

    As much as I hate authoritarian regimes, this Senegal match is too amazing not to love.

    Iron rule of World Cup. When in doubt, root for the African team.

    I do have a bag of tooth fairy teeth in my closet that would make pretty much any layperson suspect I was a serial killer.

    Won’t last, but we can be briefly smug that our three-point shooting woes could be worse if we hadn’t added by subtracting:

    ‘They have two players who are individually struggling: Reggie Bullock and Tim Hardaway Jr., who have the third- and fourth-worst percentages in the league among players who have taken at least 75 catch-and-shoot triples this season.’

    Halliburton has been putting up truly absurd numbers. 40 assists without a turnover in the last three games. Just stupefying.

    What’s funnier to me is that I thought the Kings somehow corrected their franchise-crippling Doncic mistake and showed, for the first time, good judgment, but then… nope!

    I don’t care how good Sabonis has been this year. You don’t make that trade when giving up an elite PG prospect.

    If Haliburton continues his AST% through the rest of the season, it will be the highest mark since Westbrook’s MVP season in 2016-17.

    Mathurin is the real deal and they are one frontcourt superstar away from a Big 3 that could compete for a title by 2026. Those two are going to dominate the East in their prime.

    when my son was 3, i knocked out his front tooth in a pillow fight. just saying, accidents happen.

    I knew I should have withheld that gym equipment list

    So we had 3 drafts – 2017, 2018 and 2020, where if we just got ONE of them right we could have one of the following players on our roster:

    Tyrese Halliburton
    Mikal Bridges
    Shae Gilgeous Alexander
    Donavan Mitchell

    Instead we have (or had) Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina and Obi Toppin

    Being a Knicks fan is so much fun )-:

    And it’s not just that Leon drafted Obi. Leon *locked in* on Obi and, if he had to, was going to give up meaningful assets to get Obi.

    And it’s not just that Leon drafted Obi. Leon *locked in* on Obi and, if he had to, was going to give up meaningful assets to get Obi.

    If Obi was off the table homeboy probably would have said “there are no good players left” and traded the pick for a heavily protected future pick. That’s how my dude rolls.

    What is crazy about these draft misses is that we were linked to all of these dudes.

    Frank over Donovan Mitchell. There was definitely chatter that we were interested in him. But we let Phil Jackson pick Frank because he was a “TRIANGLE” point guard even though we fired him a few weeks alter.

    Mikael Bridges – Villanova player known for good defense (which we needed) and good 3 point shooting (which we needed). Was also deemed “NBA ready” which was something we said at the time we wanted. But then we drafted Kevin Knox.

    Shai – again, we picked Knox but the better player was on that same Kentucky team. Picked Knox because of “physical tools.”

    Haliburton – Point Guard? Yup we needed that. Good 3 point shooter? Yup, we needed that. Known as a good defender? Yup, we needed that. Also, deemed NBA ready. But we picked Obi. And yes, at the time there was a certain logic to it because we were thinking Randle would get traded but at the same time we still had Randle on the team. We didn’t NEED to trade Randle right away. Also, even with Hali, we probably still could have grabbed Brunson because both can play PG or off ball.

    We always seem to go for the guy who has physical measurements or athleticism over actual production. We try to hit grand slams when solid doubles and triples are staring us right in the face.

    I can forgive them for missing on Donovan and Shai even though both are young stars because neither was mocked right around where we picked and Donovan especially turned out to be the biggest surprise of that draft. But Haliburton and Mikal Bridges were so obvious for us and yet we whiffed on both.

    I think Dolan is to blame too, because instead of hiring a competent POBO, he promoted Mills. And after firing Mills, he should have moved heaven and earth to get Masai and instead he hired a POBO with ZERO experience. Yeah, he was very successful as NBA agent, but that is no guarantee. Did Jordan succeed playing baseball?

    I think I’ve spent no more than 7 minutes paying attention to the USMNT in the last 8 years, but that’s enough for me to know this coach is one of those simpletons like Thibs who throws rock every single time in rock-paper-scissor.

    “I can forgive them for missing on Donovan and Shai even though both are young stars because neither was mocked right around where we picked and Donovan especially turned out to be the biggest surprise of that draft. ”

    i know a lot of folks follow mocks and think that they are more forward looking than actual but in a lot of cases it’s probably working in the reverse since most analysts only regurgitate what they’re hearing from gm’s and the like ..and in a lot of cases what they’re hearing from each other….

    so someone like knox being mocked ahead of sga could’ve relied solely on the fact that someone within knicks management for the last 8 or so years has been reliably leaking our picks… and seeing as how all the other mocks sort of copy each other since it’s apparently too much work to actually put forth original work… you have a runaway narrative that knox is the pick… you have a similar effect in the election polling industry where they converge their results from each other in order to hide within the comfort of groupthink….

    that’s admittedly pretty speculative but i cannot for the life of me to this day figure out what people saw that knox was somehow the better player or prospect to SGA on that kentucky team…

    in any case… the problem with our draft record is not that we missed these guys in particular.. yes it hurts… but the problem is missing these guys consistently with the cupboard still bare…. and so there might be some comfort in anchoring on what other people are doing… but they are judged on what they are producing and from the Rose to Isaiah front offices they have not been putting worthwhile players on the roster…. draft or otherwise… and that is the fundamental problem…..

    Passing on Haliburton was one of the most frustrating moments of the Dolan era. He was such an obvious pick and was by far the most popular pick by Knicks fans online. Him putting up superstar numbers now is just rubbing salt in the wound.

    “We always seem to go for the guy who has physical measurements or athleticism over actual production.”

    I don’t necessarily have a problem going for upside over the sure thing. What I don’t understand is how you can watch Knox play and conclude that he’s a high upside player. He’s so uncoordinated that it’s hard to imagine him ever harnessing his physical gifts and his physical gifts aren’t great anyway.

    i know a lot of folks follow mocks and think that they are more forward looking than actual but in a lot of cases it’s probably working in the reverse since most analysts only regurgitate what they’re hearing from gm’s and the like ..and in a lot of cases what they’re hearing from each other….

    so someone like knox being mocked ahead of sga could’ve relied solely on the fact that someone within knicks management for the last 8 or so years has been reliably leaking our picks… and seeing as how all the other mocks sort of copy each other since it’s apparently too much work to actually put forth original work… you have a runaway narrative that knox is the pick…

    100%

    People used the same logic to absolve Leon from his Obi error. “I saw him going as high as 5 in mock drafts.” So what? Like you said, most mock drafts are regurgitating each other. Some are just guessing. And some are being different just to get clicks.

    Captain America emerged from the ice. Shades of Landon Donovan against Algeria.

    This is going to be tough to close out

    “Iran #23 with an all-time great flop”

    He screamed like his leg was broken in 3 places

    @IanBegley
    Knicks announce they’ve waived Feron Hunt. Hunt was on a 2-way deal.

    Big news! Followed by this:

    @ShamsCharania
    The New York Knicks are signing forward DaQuan Jeffries on a two-way NBA contract, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Jeffries went to camp with the Knicks and has averaged 22 points for their Westchester G League affiliate this season.

    The two-way shuffle reminds me: how is Trevor Keels doing in Westchester? So weird to hear so little about a guy we took pretty high in the second round.

    I think Keels was one of the youngest in the draft. This season he’ll probably only play for the Westies. And we can have him 2 seasons on a 2-way contract, like SAC is doing with Queta (last season and this season).

    Proud of the boys. They did it.

    But the lack of poise and composure on the ball in the second half was really frustrating. Good teams can hold the ball in that situation.

    I wasn’t saying Knox was justified that high bc he was mocked higher than Shai. I was just saying that Shai himself wasn’t mocked as high as The Knicks picked in that draft.

    I think because Shai was skinny. That was the only reason.

    I don’t begrudge Iran, as it really was their best chances of advancing, but ugh, it was brutal to watch them try to flop their way to penalties constantly.

    It’s how the game is played and I have massive respect for how they have conducted themselves off the pitch. And I actually think that that arm on the shoulder in the box was closer than it looked or was made to seem. I wouldn’t have given the pk there to be clear but it was a complete no brainer.

    End of the day I don’t understand why you don’t have Reyna in the field. He’s a guy with dribbling skill you want to retain possession.

    And Shaq and Haji just aren’t World Cup quality players. I don’t get it.

    RE Frank vs. Donovan, I seem to recall reading that the Knicks had some interest in DM, but most of the buzz was that the Knicks were going to take Frank or DSJ, and Dallas the leftover. The Knicks eventually ended up with both of them, to no avail.

    The Knox pick was brutal. Picking Obi was not good, but not just outright awful like Knox.

    I guess tonight is sort of a “must win” game, given how bad Detroit is.

    TNFH-I hope and trust you are enjoying the start of your legal career. Housing Court is a really important place to practice. BTW, I like your posts and wish you the best!

    I mean, no organization hits on all of their draft picks. But when you have 3 top ten lottery picks, you have to get at least one starter out of that group, or at worst a solid rotation player.

    All we have is Obi, and God knows he may not even be the latter.

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