Knicks Morning News (2019.04.16)

That article about Mitch is not super-reassuring.

I mean, if he can add a half-decent 3PT shot to his game I don’t see why that would be a bad thing. What we want to avoid is him taking multiple per game at 28% or whatever, but him looking to expand his game shouldn’t be viewed unfavorably.

I also find it hilarious that he plans on doing so much wide mouth bass fishing with Lance Thomas.

Yeah Mitch, stay in your lane for another year.

It appears I turned the Clippers game off too early. Solid line for Montrezl. Keys to the game, not missing any shots.

3s are fine if he’s good at it but he also said post moves and jump shot. It sounds like one of the bad commentors from the old Tyson Chandler threads got in his head.

And also it this seems to be coming from his agent. Per the article, he changed agents 4 times before choosing his current one, an LA sportswriter/agent who seems to want to turn Mitchell in Anthony Davis, even if that’s not who he is.

It’s great that he wants to work on his game, but 4 agents and several trainers in just a year or so… Not a good sign. And he sounds really unfocused; improving your body is no minor thing in three months, but also post moves and also a 3-ball? Even if he’s a savant, that’s too much for one off-season.

I mean, I wish T-1000 had showed similar interest in broadening his game over the years, but he was a very, very effective player without doing so. I’m all for Mitch being a combo of Chandler and Amar’e, but mastering one area first is a better strategy than doing it all at once.

If we get Kyrie and KD there will be no time for Mitchell Robinson to post up. I will say that he’s fluid enough that he wouldn’t look like a joke doing it, but I think that’s much ado about nothing.

The Clippers are so well managed and coached it’s almost a miracle they are positioned so well for the long term right now. I used to think Doc was a little overrated but either I was wrong or he got better.

Saw some Twitter post that said when Patrick Beverly guarded KD, Curry, Klay and Draymond they were a combined 2-7 (average shot attempt 20 feet) with 1 assist and 5 turnovers.

The guy is a total defensive nightmare for opposing teams.

I think Rivers definitely improved as a coach when the Clippers took him off the GM duties to focus solely on coaching. The way the Clippers young pieces play is impressive, SGA, Shamet and Harrell all have had impressive moments, Zubac too in the regular season, and the lineup with Harrell at center and Gallo at the 4, with SGA, Williams and Shamet is very dangerous, they were phenomenal in the 2nd half last night.

If the Clippers do add Kawhi or anyone of that caliber, they would be real contenders next season for sure.

The were yucking it up in the third quarter acting like it was a pick-up game on a Saturday morning at the Y. If they keep screwing around and get one more untimely injury they could find themselves on the outside looking in or collapse internally.

They were up 31 with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Everyone is going to be yukking it up in that situation. I wonder if the Cousins injury will hurt them at all-are they going to play Bogut more now? He’s really terrible on offense.

Get stronger, work on some post moves, work on his shot, in that order. Seems like a reasonable plan to me. It’s not like he can spend every minute on weights. It’d be handy if he had some shit he could do from 5-6 feet out instead of just inside 3 feet.

Look, in college Davis averaged more blocks per game than he made 3’s all year. Same story his first few years in the NBA, and now he’s decent from 3. They’re obviously not the same player but if that’s Mitch’s model I don’t really see a problem. Currently for 90% of offensive possessions Mitch isn’t involved at all. Where’s the red flag?

If MitchRob can hit the three at a good rate (let’s say he peaks at 38% after a few years of practice), doesn’t he become a better version of what we wished KP would be? As long as he’s not chucking up garbage long twos, I don’t really see an issue with it. He’s already so good at what he does now that adding something to his game might be better than going for diminishing returns on his efficiency at the rim.

Hell, if he gets up to 34% on open threes he’ll still draw defenders out to the perimeter, opening up the paint. That’s a good point about diminishing returns – there’s no low hanging fruit left at the rim for him. Putting some work in on the things that will get him to the rim with the ball is a good move.

There’s something extra pleasant for me about the Warriors getting all cocky and then losing.

Its also fun, living out in LA, to see up close The Lakers implosion and The Clippers rise. Like even during the CP3 years this was still a Lakers town bc they were living off the Kobe era fumes. And they were all so cocky this summer when they got Lebron. But now, things are all shook up in this town! Its great!

Mitch’s situation is pretty unique and I can’t blame him for being naturally suspicious of agents and other decision makers at this point. He committed to Western Kentucky only to see them fire his godfather. He was told he had a first round promise from the Lakers only to see them draft Mo Wagner. He signed a contract that, in hindsight, he would’ve blown away if he went with the K.J. McDaniels approach. Through it all, he became one of the most productive rookies we’ve had in a long time and he still doesn’t get the recognition that his teammate Kevin Knox, who is one of the least productive rookies we’ve had since 2017, gets.

I wouldn’t worry about it as a character issue unless we hear things that are legitimately worrying.

I also don’t care much about him saying he’ll add a 3PT shot, post game, etc. Players say this kind of stuff every offseason and then largely come back doing the same things. If he starts doing things that are causing him to be less productive hopefully the coaching staff jumps on it, but I don’t see it as much of a concern.

I never liked Cousins’ act, but kinda feel sorry for him if he has a torn quad. On the bright side, maybe we can scratch him off the list of guys the Knicks might sign to a big deal.

Now we need Cam Reddish to play poorly at 3-on-3.

I don’t mind it too much either, Mitch is saying he’s willing to work on his game and that’s a good sign overall. As long as he doesn’t go Drummond or Howard and starts trying to play like he’s prime Shaq on the post, it’s gonna be fine, and him adding a little versatility will be good if it works.

If he can shoot 3s at a decent rate and keep his free throws around 70-75%, he’s a superstar. It’s not like practicing threes and post moves will make him forget his athleticism and instincts around the basket. His current skill set is based on his crazy athleticism and instincts, so it’s not like he has to practice being tall and jumping really high.

I’m more worried about him getting a lot stronger and losing his bounce a bit, but that can be managed with smart training.

doesn’t he become a better version of what we wished KP would be?

He already is.

I also don’t care much about him saying he’ll add a 3PT shot, post game, etc. Players say this kind of stuff every offseason and then largely come back doing the same things. If he starts doing things that are causing him to be less productive hopefully the coaching staff jumps on it, but I don’t see it as much of a concern.

Yes, but the smart players literally say the same thing every year: this summer I’m going to add [one thing]. Whether it’s a post-up game, a 3-ball, adding strength and stamina, the great ones focus on one thing, because they know doing all things means they won’t achieve enough mastery of the one thing to put any of it into use. That’s why the lesser players “largely come back doing the same things.”

I’m not saying that’s guaranteed for Mitch; he has certainly seemed prodigious in how easily he’s picked up key elements to the game. But most of the time, that lack of focus results in lack of improvement. And indeed, there are a lot of holes in his game that need work…it’s just that launching the 3 isn’t one of them. Learning to box out, improving strength and stamina, reading the offenses more quickly, working on his slip and roll – those are more crucial to his current game than most of the shit he’s talking about.

None of you see KP in those comments? After his early surprising success, he decided he needed to work on his crossover and other low-efficiency mid-range shit, which is the main reason many people here don’t consider him star-level material. What if all he did was work on his body (to prevent it from breaking down, to increase his stamina, to stabilize his knees, for instance!), blocking out, and his 3-point accuracy? He would have taken his strengths and maximized them while covering over some of the more problematic holes in his game.

which is the main reason many people here don’t consider him star-level material

I guess I should acknowledge that that low-efficiency crap is also why many NOT here do believe he’s star-level material. They’re wrong, though. It’s his rim-protection and 3-ball. If he learns to box out and rebound just a little better, and if his coach persuades him to stop the mid-range BS, then he’ll add a lot more wins.

Bernie’s got more Ignatius Reilly in him than he does true genius. He knows exactly how to fix everything, if only the corrupt and small-minded fools in charge would just start listening to him.

I guess I’m too much of a ‘capitalist’ to see what Bernie does other than spout wealth redistribution nonsense. I thought capitalism was a good thing, a backbone to this country, and the most important reason we’re living in unarguably the best society ever…

I’m left-leaning, but God I hate all these high-profile Democrats, from Hillary to Bernie to AOC. Not to say that Trump et al aren’t assholes, but I’m focusing on the left here.

IMO, being a low usage high efficiency player that rebounds, block shots, and defends well makes you an all-star caliber player.

Adding an above average post game, 3 pointer, and short jumper (even if it reduces your overall efficiency from its current level) makes you a two-way superstar.

Sometimes the defense is going to win the possession. When it does, someone is going to have to take something other than a dunk, layup, free throw, or corner 3. If you are the guy that can get it done at above average levels for those types of shots you are adding value even if it hurts your personal efficiency stats.

You don’t want Dirk shooting mid range shots by choice, but when you have Dirk knocking them down at a 47% clip and getting fouled some of the time when the defense locks down you have a huge advantage over teams with players that are forced to shoot those at a 40% clip or less.

What you don’t want is guys forcing up mid range shots, off balanced shots, shots against double teams etc.. when there’s still time on the clock to create something better. That’s what KP was doing last year too often. But it’s also why you could see him learning, changing his shot distribution, and improving his overall efficiency without even improving his shot. If he improves his shot too, he’s big time.

Learning to box out, improving strength and stamina, reading the offenses more quickly, working on his slip and roll – those are more crucial to his current game than most of the shit he’s talking about.

Since he said three things, improving strength, working on post game, working on his shot, two thirds of what he said is exactly what you are wanting him to work on. You’re reading too much into this. One, I don’t really think any player spends the entire off-season just working on a single skill. All he’s got on his schedule are basketball and some probable fishing trip that’s maybe happening. He can fit in working on his shot in-between weights and post moves. Two, and most important, there are all kinds of existing problems with the Knicks to worry about, you don’t need to invent shit about Mitch to worry about. If he fucks up his summer then we’ve got all next season open for hand-wringing. Let’s take this precious time to fret about the draft. All worries in their proper time.

when I first saw mitch play for us I was thinking a good hopeful comparison would be deandre…

then, I started to think gobert…capela though might be an even better outcome…

his improvement during the year was pretty stunning – no doubt assisted by his very average foot size 🙂

I’m pretty sure he will improve this year and in the future – I’m just not sure how much better he can get, and, in what areas he’ll improve the most in…

unless you have a big man that can pass really well, seems like a lot of the big guy post play has gone away…so, hanging around the arc to dive or shoot may be the way to go…

I really hate when Ntilikilla does this shit because I want him to stop but I also want to respond to the bad responses he gets like Jowles just did. God damn it. I’m just not gonna do it this time. For real though dude, there are virtually unlimited places on the internet to talk about politics. Go find them!

Yes, but the smart players literally say the same thing every year: this summer I’m going to add [one thing]. Whether it’s a post-up game, a 3-ball, adding strength and stamina, the great ones focus on one thing, because they know doing all things means they won’t achieve enough mastery of the one thing to put any of it into use. That’s why the lesser players “largely come back doing the same things.”

I’ve never heard a player say “I’m going to work on [X skill] and exactly nothing else.” I’m sure in many cases it’s true and is a wise approach, but the optics of a comment like that would not be great. I get that this is a very quiet time for Knicks related news (as the NBA playoffs tend to be) but we really don’t need to overanalyze a player saying he’s going to try to get better this summer. If he comes back jacking up long twos, I’ll eat my share of crow.

I’m not overanalyzing or freaking out; I just saw a bunch of comments and information that was not reassuring. It’s not that I’m saying Mitch should never think about shooting the 3, or developing post moves; I just think trying to do it all at once is a recipe for coming back the same player. Because he won’t be good at any new thing, and his discomfort will make him less likely to try any of it.

As for players who have added one piece to their game every summer, the best example is LeBron: one year he said, “I am going to work on my post game,” and voila, post game. Another year he said he was going to work on his 3, and voila, a 3 appears. Hakeem is pretty famous for this. I’m pretty sure Tim Duncan did the same kind of thing as well. Bird and Magic, who were already transcendent, talked about off-season road work in year 3 or so, with the sense that “I’ve got to keep going, because I know that guy is running more miles, and the only way I’m going to beat him is if I’m in better shape.” Jordan very consciously added a jumper. Etc.

I mean, I’m sure they all did lots of shooting drills, watched film, worked out, whatever. But they chose one thing to define whether their off-season was a success, and that make it easier to focus on accomplishing that thing on a level that would translate to success in the best league in the world.

Since he said three things, improving strength, working on post game, working on his shot, two thirds of what he said is exactly what you are wanting him to work on.

No, I want him to work on strength/stamina, translating it specifically to boxing out/rebounding. I don’t want him shooting 3s or working on post moves…this year. His offense should be early Amare; his defense should be T-1000 (complete with rebounding).

I called Ntilakilla an agent of chaos before it was cool.

Every player in the history of the world is going to work on things x, y and z in the offseason and come into camp In The Best Shape Of His Life™. Generally in real life they just tend to follow normal development curves.

But of the exceptions…

Remember that one time Amar’e went to Olajuwon school and came back with some of the slickest post moves you’ve ever seen?

I used to think Hakeem was just stealing money from gullible players with that little school he had. But Amar’e, man. He only played 29 games that year (it was the year we were good), and they were all off the bench, but I remember thinking he could have been an unstoppable 6th man/finisher with the post moves he had that year.

No, I want him to work on strength/stamina, translating it specifically to boxing out/rebounding. I don’t want him shooting 3s or working on post moves

This is silly. You can’t just lift and do cardio for 8-10 hours a day, what the hell. He’s gonna be on the court doing shit. Do you seriously believe any of these guys don’t spend some time each day putting up shots? We already know Mitch takes threes after every practice, he’s said as much. He needs to get better at moving/positioning/foot work in the post on both sides of the court. So he shouldn’t work on that, just focus on cardio/weights? You are reading too much into it, creating concerns where none are apparent.

If he had said something like “I really admire Dirk, and my main goal this summer is to add a mid-range fade” then yes, we should all be concerned. But he didn’t say that.

Congrats Silky!

While I understand how Mitch might be fascinated by the 3-pt shot, I’m more interested in him being able to take the elbow deuce and the baby jumper. He does need to draw defenders to him to open up the lane. He won’t need to worry about creating his shots because the nearest defender is usually 20 feet away from Mitch out there.

There are so many websites you can go to and argue with people about politics!

I’m not worried about Mitch trying to expand his repertoire. I trust him to know when to use some of that as a sort of release valve, like Boban did when everything else broke down and he was open from the charity stripe. It’s ok to take the only shot left on the table. It’s not ok to launch five threes per game because you got lazy and/or enamored with the latest fad. I really trust Mitch on this.

I mean, no one can fault Mitch. The incentives for Mitch are pretty clear. If he can score even five more points per game or shoot 30% from 3 his perceived value will go up.

But in this case I prefer the Hedgehog to the Fox….

See, this is the type of Clintonista nonsense you’ll find in DailyKos.

Right, and blathering on incessantly about one’s man-crush Bernie Sanders like he’s your favorite member of One Direction is the kind of highbrow political discourse one can only find at a website dedicated to statistical analysis of the worst team in the NBA

If people don’t want to engage the subject, they don’t have to.

Hear that, everyone? Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting y

The posters here are way more analytical. So why shouldn’t we expand our horizons here and there on subjects outside of basketball?

so, does this mean you’re not changing your name back to räz…

c’mon man…just do it…

stop hitting yourself

Not answering Jowles on purpose here. No need to talk politics here. Suffice it to say we probably agree on most of that. I just believe capitalism isn’t inherently evil and it’s application to fields like medicine with little govt intervention does lead to progress, and has led to where we are today, while exploitation by the HMOs (created and enabled by govt) no and pharma (enabled by govt) should now be curbed by govt. shit I guess I did answer

so, does this mean you’re not changing your name back to räz…

To be honest, I’ve been tempted. But I wish to continue to show solidarity to Frank because I like the kid even if his game looks real bad.

I just believe capitalism isn’t inherently evil and it’s application to fields like medicine with little govt intervention does lead to progress, and has led to where we are today,

The funny thing here is that Bernie also agrees with this take, which is why he actually legislated a bill which allowed for the import of cheaper generic drugs into the U.S. marketplace, so that domestic consumers can have a greater range of choices instead of being bilked out of their money by our patent system. It’s actually the monopolists in the U.S. pharmaceutical industry who don’t believe in capitalist free-market competition. They’re the “redistributionists”….it’s just they support policies which redistribute that wealth up to the top.

You know what upsets me? I’m not a real hardcore Bernie person although I did vote for him in the CA primary. But I also happily voted for Clinton even if she wasn’t the best bc clearly she would be better than the shit show we have now.

But today Bernie releases his tax info. He’s a millionaire, just about 2 million in net worth and most of his wealth he’s gotten in the last few years from his book sales, which were boosted by his last presidential run.

Even though this qualifies him as barely rich, people are now calling him a hypocrite (both Trump supporters and people on the left who are mad he’s running again). Because apparently you can’t recognize how our current situation favors the uber wealthy and want to change it and also be someone with a little bit of money. Nope, you have to be poor or middle class otherwise you’re a hypocrite.

Bernie is worth less than a lot of the other Democratic candidates. He’s barely rich. And all he’s advocating for is a more fair system where millionaires and billionaires pay more in taxes so that stuff like health care and education is cheaper for the rest of us. If he can’t advocate for that because he’s barely rich, then none of hte other candidates can too.

I made this point on Facebook and someone called me a member of the Bernie cult. Its like its impossible to really have an in depth discussion with people about anything bc everyone is trying to win points for their side and its gotten so bad that its not just left vs. right but on the left we’re cannabalizing our own for the sake of winning. But we’re all losing.

We’re fucked.

@77 suddenly I understand why you have such a hard on for Bernie

LOL. Actually, the opposite is the case with Bernie. As the most popular politician in the country he’s like the Giannis version of national politics today. If wanted to support a national politician like Frank I’d pick a Kirsten Gillibrand.

Even though this qualifies him as barely rich, people are now calling him a hypocrite

Al Gore claims to be an environmentalist but he stills flies on planes!

People say stupid shit all the time, like tanking is a bad strategy because it isn’t 100% effective. Sometimes you just gotta argue on the internet, even though you know it’s dumb.

Yeah I just think its funny people are calling him rich. I mean, he is. But 2 million dollars for someone who is 80 years old and has been a senator since the 80’s? I’m surprised he isn’t worth a lot more honestly. A lot of politicians much younger than him are worth a lot more. 2 million net worth is basically a lifetime of good investments and owning one or two homes. Its nice. Don’t get me wrong. But its not Jezz Bezos rich. Its not even Clooney or Lebron rich, ya know? A good doctor or lawyer could be worth that much by the end of the their life.

And Bernie’s tax returns shows that he’s paid the correct amount on his taxes. He isn’t hiding money in charitable trusts or overseas or in shell corporations. He ran for president and wrote a best selling book. The idea that someone advocating for more income inequality has to self flaggate themselves in order to keep it real is ridiculous. Its like when people went after AOC for her people should eat less meat comment bc someone took a picture of one of her aides eating a hamburger. Its so stupid.

I’m not sure why exactly I don’t find politics more interesting…kind of like the news in general I guess – little triumph, lot’s of tragedy…

did finish up my taxes recently, which forced me to do some homework on current economics and the effects of the tax cuts and jobs act…

as swift and abundant so aptly put it – we are fucked…at least the bottom 95% or so of us in terms of earnings income…

my 401k and IRA are doing well though…

sigh

Hey, why are you mad? I brought basketball into the conversation there.

@92

You don’t feel the Bern, huh?

I like Bernie Sanders but I’m also capable of shutting the hell up about it when appropriate see I’m living proof it can be done

Example of govt in the way: we use an intravenous contrast in our office every day. Ten years ago, it was worth $10 and angiograms paid $300. Great for the doc. Now with increased regulation, there is only one company approved to make the contrast and it sells for $70 now. The test pays $120 due to physician CMS (Medicare) cuts I get more of every year. You lose money paying a technician to perform these. I also spend over half my day hunched over my computer trying badly to both hear my patient and type into my govt mandated medical record system. Pardon me if I believe the govt gets it wrong much more than right.

Example of govt in the way: we use an intravenous contrast in our office every day. Ten years ago, it was worth $10 and angiograms paid $300. Great for the doc. Now with increased regulation, there is only one company approved to make the contrast and it sells for $70 now. The test pays $120 due to physician CMS (Medicare) cuts I get more of every year. You lose money paying a technician to perform these. I also spend over half my day hunched over my computer trying badly to both hear my patient and type into my govt mandated medical record system. Pardon me if I believe the govt gets it wrong much more than right.

And was that a function of regulatory capture or bog-standard red tape?

Toronto smacking Orlando’s ass. Looking to make a statement after that 1st game collapse in the fourth quarter. Lowry came in with a mission to shut his critics up.

I like Buttigieg a lot. However, I listened to one interview where he started comparing the problems he worked on as mayor to what he might face as president. I immediately began thinking he’s not ready for the job yet. In an ideal world where people elected president are actually qualified, I would not vote for him. From a practical standpoint, I think he may struggle when he’s forced to take an actual political stance or talk about issues. I’d love to see him work in the Senate or House for awhile. Again, an ideal world where our president actually has qualifications or experience.

I think Bernie has a decent chance this year as the more central candidates split the votes. I would love Bernie to throw his weight behind a similar, younger candidate.

Also, I have no issue with the blog going into politics. However, the discussion needs to remain a discussion. Once someone starts throwing shade, e.g., calling others a “confederacy of dunces,” no discussion remains.

I’d also like to point out the absurdity of the “dunces” comment, since literally any faction behind Trump, Clinton, or Bernie could, and likely has, pronounced the same sentiment in their own favor.

Final point, Ntilakilla is a troll and should be banned.

It’s appropriate that we are discussing descending into politics on this blog on the same day we are discussing whether Mitch should shoot 3s.

I am all for staying in our lane

Well said!

This thread is like watching Mitch shoot 2-10 from the perimeter.

Okay now stop

I hate Trump as President, but if it were a hoice between him and Sanders I might vote for Trump. Sanders would raise taxes a lot to pay for college for everyone, which would mean every burger flipper would need a full college degree. That wouldn’t be helpful, just expensive.

Tulsi Gabbard reeeeeeeally likes fascists in India and Egypt ahhhhh why am I doing this

Yeah, her links with far right Hindu nationalists is a real problem, one which limits her viability as a progressive anti-war candidate. But this isn’t why the Democratic Party establishment hates her. This is a party with major ties to a genocidal Jewish supremacist like Bibi Netanyahu who promotes the Israeli colonization of Palestinian land in the West Bank. This is a party with major ties to the House of Saud, a medieval theocratic monarchy. This is a party with ties to the pro-fascist government in the Ukraine which came to power after a virtual coup. What they really dislike is her criticism towards the hawkish aspects of American foreign policy.

Good job, Knickerbloggerkilla. You’ve done it again, ruined another thread. I’m out of here.

While it is, indeed, in some places, for some people, a free country, I do politely ask you to shut the fuck up about politics on this site.

Tulsi Gabbard reeeeeeeally likes fascists in India and Egypt ahhhhh why am I doing this

Cause she’s also a big fan of Assad and a former anti-gay crusader who still refers to homosexuality as a “lifestyle”?

In exciting basketball news I went to the DMV yesterday. It was fine. They played Careless Whispers. Bunch of Hall & Oates too. There’s always a bunch of Hall & Oates. Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat. Trier turned him on to it. True story.

And was that a function of regulatory capture or bog-standard red tape?

Both.

And no, EMRs are the worst thing to happen to medicine since HMOs. Imagine diagnosing and explaining a life altering disease, it’s prognosis, and different options for treatment, and yet still spending 75% of your day at a computer screen, making less money, for more volume, with more red tape yada yada. I would probably hate Medicare for all.

Hey JK et. al., back to my LA quandary, I’ve decided to spend Sat nite in West Hollywood and Sunday nite at the Shore hotel in Santa Monica. Any recommendations as to:
-Hotel preference in West Hollywood…I’ve narrowed it down to either the Mondrian or London West Hollywood based on great deals I found online. Mondrian looks like more fun (skybar/pool scene) but not a great room for Dad/son. London has an amazing suite but the pool/restaurant seems more exclusive i.e. less fun.
-good clubs to go to on Sat nite
-good eats that won’t kill the budget

My overall itinerary is sick….flying in and out of SF, renting a convertible and squeezing in Yosemite and the Pacific Coast Highway. Hopefully my glaucoma won’t act up from all the eyestrain…

And no, EMRs are the worst thing to happen to medicine since HMOs. Imagine diagnosing and explaining a life altering disease, it’s prognosis, and different options for treatment, and yet still spending 75% of your day at a computer screen, making less money, for more volume, with more red tape yada yada. I would probably hate Medicare for all.

Imagine getting the correct medication because the pharmacy isn’t misinterpreting terrible hand-written scripts. Or not being given medication you’re allergic to because the doctor gets a warning when they’re entering the order and the nurse gets a warning if they try to administer it.

one of the benefits of living out west – get to catch some of these competitive late night games, and, get some sleep before the next day…

denver all the way back in it with about 8 minutes left…flipping back and forth between that game and okc/portland…

just saw the replay of the cousins injury – that looked really bad…

-Hotel preference in West Hollywood…I’ve narrowed it down to either the Mondrian or London West Hollywood based on great deals I found online. Mondrian looks like more fun (skybar/pool scene) but not a great room for Dad/son. London has an amazing suite but the pool/restaurant seems more exclusive i.e. less fun.
-good clubs to go to on Sat nite
-good eats that won’t kill the budget

I’ve never been to the London West Hollywood, but the Mondrian is BALLER. Skybar is legendary for people watching, it’s Hollywood glitz and cheese at its finest. I haven’t been there in years but I’m sure it has not changed much.

For good clubs… I’m not really much of a “club” guy, I tend to prefer a nice chill bar. If I remember correctly, your son is into rock history, so you might want to pop into Barney’s Beanery before they tear it down. Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and all the Sunset Strip superstars used to hang out there and the decor hasn’t changed. It’s a little “bro-ish” these days but it’s a piece of history. The West Hollywood one is the one you want. A lot of the clubs in Hollywood have a velvet rope going on during the weekend nights. I do like Harlowe on Santa Monica Blvd, that’s kind of a bar with a club feel.

For good eats in West Hollywood… Canter’s Deli is good deli food and the place has a lot of history. BLD has great breakfast. If you want to do one kind of fancy meal, Jar on Beverly Blvd is kind of unforgettable. Salt’s Cure is one of my faves, and there’s lots of good cheap eats at the Farmer’s Market, the classic one off of Fairfax. There’s lots of good Korean barbecue around there, Genwa on Wilshire is a favorite of mine. Republique and Sycamore Kitchen are also both A+ spots to eat.

Also, Dan Tana’s is a pretty cool old school scene. Last time I was there Clint Eastwood and Ron Jeremy came in together and waited in line behind me. That was bizarre.

It’s not quite West Hollywood, it’s Hollywood proper but Musso and Frank is a great place to grab a martini. Oldest restaurant in Hollywood, Douglas Fairbanks and Humphrey Bogart used to hang out there.

LA is really one of the best dive bar cities in the world, I know a million great ones but it sounds like that’s not really what you’re looking for, Z-Man.

I hope you enjoy our fair city, this place has a surprising amount of heart and soul.

Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat.

Wait, seriously?

I said it was a true story.

No #7 seed has ever made the NBA Finals. Maybe the Spurs could be the first!

The Cronin jinx is alive and well. Hubert, you may not believe in it, but it’s real.

Can we please close this thread and start a fresh one without any politics?

I don’t even want to read anything because I might be tempted to respond to something. All we are ever debating is which corrupt incompetent is going to be pushing policies that are going to make things worse long term.

Will put a fresh thread up….

Second to everything Musso and Frank btw. Was struggling to remember the name of the coup de grace on the ex’s LA tour until JK pulled it out. It’s got great people-watching potential on top of the martinis and the steaks