Knicks Morning News (2018.05.16)

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks awarded ninth pick for 2018 NBA Draft
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:23:50 PM)

    The Knicks will have the ninth overall pick in the 2018 NBA Draft following the Draft Lottery Tuesday night.

  • [SNY Knicks] A look back at the Knicks history in the NBA Draft Lottery
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:10:00 PM)

    With the NBA Draft Lottery set for Tuesday night in Chicago, the Knicks are hoping to move their draft position up for the first time since 1985.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks candidate Woodson reportedly not returning to Clippers
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:32:18 AM)

    Mike Woodson, who was a candidate for the Knicks’ head coaching search, will not return to the Clippers as an assistant next year.

  • [NYTimes] Inside the Hamptons House Where Kevin Durant Hosted Suitors in 2016
    (Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:00:13 AM)

    The estate at 189 Further Lane was the venue for one of the most significant courtships in N.B.A. history. Durant paid $100,000 for the 10-day rental.

  • [NYTimes] Corner Office: Chris Paul: Point Guard, Activist, Union Boss
    (Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:00:09 AM)

    CP3 plays many roles in the N.B.A. Besides being the starting point guard for the Rockets, he is an outspoken voice on social issues, and leads the player union.

  • [NYTimes] N.B.A. Playoffs: Celtics Take 2-0 Lead in Eastern Conference Finals
    (Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:10:58 AM)

    A triple-double by LeBron James was not enough for the Cavaliers who are in a huge hole as the series moves to Cleveland.

  • [NYTimes] Sports of The Times: That Warriors-Rockets Epic May Well Be Over
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:58:21 PM)

    Judging from Monday night’s gut-punch to the home team, looks like it’s time to book N.B.A. finals hotels in the Bay Area.

  • [NYTimes] Not at the Game: Come Watch the Warriors-Rockets Series With Us From an Expert’s Couch
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:48:54 PM)

    We want to see how great basketball minds not at the games see them. Here’s David Arseneault Jr., the men’s basketball coach at Grinnell College.

  • [NYTimes] N.B.A. Draft Lottery 2018: Phoenix Suns Get Top Pick
    (Wednesday, May 16, 2018 1:19:33 AM)

    Some teams earn a No. 1 draft pick by playing badly. Some get their No. 1 by playing badly on purpose. Others get their No. 1 by getting really lucky.

  • [NYTimes] Jerry West Just Wants to Feel Wanted
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:49:26 PM)

    For his last act, can the N.B.A. legend have a hand in fixing the Clippers once and for all?

  • [NYDN] 4 potential players Knicks could take with the ninth overall pick
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:16:40 PM)

    The Knicks have options as they own the ninth overall pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

  • [NYDN] Knicks will have 9th pick in 2018 NBA Draft
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:28:47 PM)

    Knicks will have 9th pick in 2018 NBA Draft

  • [NYDN] Kristaps Porzingis’ timeline for return will be clearer in Sept.
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:49:13 PM)

    The Knicks should get a better idea of when Kristaps Porzingis can return by September.

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks to pick ninth in NBA draft
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:56:00 PM)

    “I’m just happy we didn’t move back,” Knicks GM Scott Perry said.

  • [NYPost] NBA mock draft: Who’s going No. 1? Who will Knicks grab at No. 9?
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:15:30 PM)

    The lottery selections in the 2018 NBA Draft at Barclays Center on June 21 could go something like this (but likely won’t): 1. Phoenix: Deandre Ayton, Arizona, C, 7-1, 250 Suns hired Luka Doncic’s Slovenia coach, Igor Kokoskov. So naturally they’ll take the offensive athletic freak center (20.1 ppg, 11.6 rpg), the best guy in…

  • [NYPost] Former Knicks coach Mike Woodson, Clippers part ways
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:26:52 PM)

    Ex-Knicks head coach Mike Woodson is done in Los Angeles, according to multiple reports, where he was a Clippers assistant coach to Doc Rivers the past three seasons. Woodson interviewed for the Knicks’ head-coaching job and expressed interest to The Post in joining David Fizdale’s staff two weeks ago. Woodson gave Fizdale his first assistant-coaching…

  • [NYPost] Isiah Thomas fan of Fizdale hire, but he wasn’t his first choice
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:42:23 PM)

    CHICAGO — Former Knicks president Isiah Thomas had lobbied for Mark Jackson to get the team’s head-coaching job, but still thinks general manager Steve Mills did a good job landing David Fizdale. “They made a great choice,’’ Thomas said after the draft lottery here in his hometown. “I’ve known him through my travels. I saw…

  • [NYPost] Knicks’ lottery luck stays the same as No. 9 draft pick stands
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 4:27:43 PM)

    CHICAGO — The presence of general manager Scott Perry on the dais and new coach David Fizdale on board did nothing to change the Knicks’ stagnant lottery luck Tuesday night. The pingpong balls didn’t dance the team’s way in a downtown Chicago hotel ballroom, and any visions of Luka Doncic or Deandre Ayton suiting up…

  • [NYPost] Ethan Hawke: Why I lost my spot on Knicks’ Celebrity Row
    (Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:11:09 AM)

    Ethan Hawke’s biting words against the Knicks cost him a spot on Celebrity Row. Appearing on “The Bill Simmons Podcast” Monday, the “First Reformed” actor and longtime New York sports fan recalled how unfiltered comments about James Dolan’s team irked Madison Square Garden’s executive chairman to his core. “I’ve been a Knicks fan for a…

  • 81 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2018.05.16)”

    From yesterday’s thread… the comp between Smart and Frank is a really interesting one. Clearly Smart grades out better on a number of stats from his rookie year. But the track record of euro players improving their shooting percentages early in their careers is good and it’s not unreasonable to think Frank could exceed Smart’s production for their age 20 seasons.

    I really like Smart as a Swiss Army knife player who can defend multiple positions, create a bit of offence etc. He’d be good outcome for Frank in my view.

    Woody out in Los Angeles. Sure seems like he’s going to want to come here, no? Something must be up there, right? Seems unlikely he would just walk away unless something went down between him and Doc.

    The Marcus Smart / Ntilikina comp is an interesting one –

    look at their per-36 stats just from this year (age 23 for Smart, age 19 for Frank)

    Frank – 9.8 points, 3.7 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.4 steals. FG% 36.4, 3P% 31.8, FT% 72.1
    Smart – 12.3 points, 4.2 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 1.5 steals, FG% 36.7, 3P% 30.1, FT% 72.9

    Certainly at this point in Frank’s career, he and Smart are similar-type players. Obviously Smart is much more impactful right now but he’s also 4 years older than Frank.

    Frank really does project to be an impact defender. Look at his percentiles by defensive play-type:
    Iso – 86th percentile (0.7 PPP)
    PNR-BH – 90.3
    PNR-roll man – 79.7
    Post-up – 97.7
    Spot-up – 7.4 (no one’s perfect)
    Handoff – 72.2
    Off-screen – 33.7

    As a 19 year old I feel pretty comfortably that these are elite-type stats. Offense… not so good though.

    Anyway – too bad we didn’t move up, but on the other hand, we didn’t move down either, and we had 2x the chance of moving down as moving up.

    The Michael Porter thing is pretty interesting. Nate Duncan / Danny Leroux brought up on their podcast that Porter might in fact control his draft position more than you would think he would in that he can decide which teams to share his medical reports with — and that with a back injury that cost him an entire season, teams will need to see those reports before drafting him. ESPN/DX’s big board has him at #8 — can one possibly imagine Cleveland picking a possible medical red flag with Lebron’s free agency looming over them just a week later? Assuming they keep the pick, I see a Bridges or Collin Sexton as a more likely fit with Cleveland – assuming they actually keep Lebron, they desperately need more impactful defenders (both Bridges and Sexton probably fit that bill), 2-way wings, and shot creation from someone other than Lebron.

    I can see Porter working out for teams in the top 5 then shutting it down so if he drops beyond 5 he can more successfully choose his location.

    Say what you will about his weaknesses, but he was a high probability to go #1 or #2 pre-season, and assuming he is healthy, certainly didn’t do anything this season that should have diminished that level of talent.

    btw I’ve generally been happy with the Mills/Perry regime, but the idea that we couldn’t dump Courtney Lee and KOQ on the Cavs for salary relief + a pick seems like a huge missed opportunity. Jordan Clarkson is awful, Nance barely plays, Hood sucks, and they gave up a 1st round pick to boot.

    Courtney isn’t great, but he tries on defense, is a fantastic 3 point shooter, and can be a secondary playmaker at times. KOQ would be huge in a series like this, providing much of what Thompson does on the boards while also not being a zero on offense otherwise and also giving rim protection.

    Doncic, Ayton, Bagley and Jackson will all be gone. After that, though, Things should be unpredictable, and we’re guaranteed one of the following if Perry and Milks want them.

    Porter
    Bomba
    Young
    Carter
    Mikael

    This seems to be the general consensus.

    I’m bracing myself for Perry deciding to take Sexton instead of one of those guys.

    Everything he’s said and done indicates he has no faith in Frank to ever develop as a 1 and is obsessed with finding a replacement. He went for Mudiay. Sexton is the Mudiay of this draft. I think it’s inevitvable.

    That would give us an insanely imbalanced roster which would force us to play smaller guards at forward:

    1 Sexton, Burke, Mudiay
    2 Hardaway, Lee, Frank, Dotson
    3 Thomas
    4 Porzingis
    5 Kanter, Noah

    That kind of mess seems about right, doesn’t it?

    To be fair to Sexton, it sounds as if he is a high level defender as well as a super competitive dude. There have been a fair number of DeAaron Fox – Sexton comparisons and to be honest it sounds as if Sexton compares favorably — super fast, just as good a defender, and clearly a better shooter (even if he’s not a great shooter). But yes, I think it would be ridiculous to have Frank, Sexton, Burke, and Mudiay all on the roster at the same time. And like others have said – I think the only way you draft into such a position of “strength” is if the guy really is that good — and it’s hard to see that he is really that good. Bad 2p%, shaky shooting numbers, <1 steal/game, poor assist/TO ratio, and on top of that he's probably just a 1 position defender even if he's a good defender at that position. Pass.

    Will be so interesting if Trae Young is somehow still on the board for us. Talk about a boom-bust proposition. He would be absolutely victimized on the defensive end, even if his offense is as good as advertised. Hard to know whether he could become adequate like Steph — Steph is significantly taller (although is his wingspan only 6’3″?).

    Don’t we already have a score-first, short, bad-on-D guard named Trey?

    Some here (including me) were not very high on Smart, Rozier, Brown or (especially) Tatum. So all of our draft prognosticating is highly suspect. Perhaps our best move is to find out who the Celts and Spurs think highly of and draft one of those guys.

    As to last night, there are 2 silver linings:
    1) the Celts didn’t get #2
    2) all the recent dialogue about who we should draft at #9 isn’t wasted

    Joking aside, if we draft another guard – Sexton, Trae, SAG – it’s going to be hard to continue to root for the team, because it’ll only be a matter of time before the inevitable dumb trade of Frank for 2 second round picks.

    @9 – yes, but Trae seemingly has far superior offensive upside than Trey… literally no one in college basketball history has put up Trae-type numbers, much less as a freshman in a real conference.

    Not a big fan of Sexton, but I can see a future where Frank is capable of defending both wing spots so it wouldn’t be a huge long term problem. If Sexton is who they think is BPA then they should take him, I’m just skeptical he is or should be the BPA when we’re on the board at 9.

    In Sexton’s favor is he’s a very high character kid and an insanely hard worker. He was an unranked recruit in his junior year in HS who through hard work turned himself into a 5 star.

    Sexton had a schedule at Pebblebrook High School (Mableton, Georgia). He’d rise before 6 a.m. to pump iron and run lung-busting conditioning drills. Then it was off to school (he carried a 3.7 GPA) before heading to practice with either his high school or AAU team. After practice, he’d go through a skill-focused workout that saw him repeat different dribbling, shooting and lay-up moves until he could execute them in his sleep. The session couldn’t end until he’d drained 300 jump shots. Sexton never shared these grueling workouts on social media, because he never had interest in creating an account. No Instagram, no Twitter, no Snapchat, no nothing. “You can’t follow me on social media. Don’t have it. In my opinion, it’s a waste of time. Likes won’t make you better at anything,” Sexton wrote in a piece for The Player’s Tribune.

    …….

    Washington bought him an altitude mask to help him prepare. Sexton worked out three times a day, often in the blistering south Georgia sun, with that mask affixed to his face. “He wanted to be on that team so bad,” Washington told SB Nation. “A lot of those other guys had been there before, so they were privileged. His job was to be the hardest worker. I told him, if you out work everyone, they can’t deny you.” Sexton bolted through the tryout and impressed the coaches with his elite conditioning. He went on to make the team and win tournament MVP at the 2016 U17 FIBA World Championships:

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    @13 – yeah you get the feeling that Sexton is just super-competitive on both ends of the floor and a really hard worker. That game where Alabama played 3-on-5 or whatever and actually made it a game was pretty awesome.

    Maybe a little Scary Terry to him?

    I have no problem with Frank not being developed as a full-time PG. I have a problem doing that while we have a gazillion 2-guards on the roster.

    the issue is that we have a gazillion 2 guards because we dont have a playmaker 1 guard, so they all get moved to the off guard spot. frank, trey, mudial, baker, lee, thjr, none of them are lead guards

    Well, no, Mudiay is trash but he is clearly a PG (who should play in China and not here, but nevermind). Trey is a PG but his size makes his ceiling just a good bench player. It’s THJ and Lee who are clogging the rotations (and the payroll).

    @16 – Honestly aside from Frank and arguably THJ and Burke none of the rest would factor into my decision. Baker, Lee and fucking Mudiay shouldn’t be part of any consideration. If Mudiay or Baker make some quantum leap that would be a good problem to have, but if Stevens can find minutes for Kyrie, Rozier and Smart when they’re all healthy then it shouldn’t be an issue for us.

    @14 – Yeah, I agree. If you’re looking for a kid who would outperform his draft slot you probably want to bet on the one who has been obsessive about maximizing his abilities and perfecting his craft since his balls dropped.

    Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges will take us to the promised land"says:

    To me, this draft is either Mikal Bridges, Wendell Carter or bust. Primarily, I want a defender that fits. I might be talked into Miles Bridges if they think he can defend multiple positions. I’m more skeptical of him because I don’t think he’s long enough to handle some PFs and actually is more of PF than SF, but I like his rebounding teamed with KP.

    BPA is a great theory on paper, but when we are talking about really young kids, no one knows who the BPA is within a tight range of 3-4 players outside the top couple. So why pretend we do?

    Pretty good graphic from @knicksfilmschool re: the ~50% hit rate on #9 picks since 1997, which honestly is not that bad a hit rate–