Knicks Morning News (2017.05.13)

  • [NYDN] De’Aaron Fox excited at possibly playing with Kristaps Porzingis
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 9:56:27 PM)

    Fox envisions “something special” in New York if teamed up with Kristaps Porzingis.

  • [NYDN] Why Knicks president Phil Jackson recently texted Carmelo Anthony
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 9:55:19 PM)

    Phil Jackson cares enough about Melo’s well-being to send a supportive text about personal issues and still push him toward another team.

  • [NYDN] Phil Jackson’s plan during Knicks combine interviews: stay silent
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 5:45:07 PM)

    Jackson said the young ages of the prospects these days lends itself to longer learning curves, both mentally and physically.

  • [NYDN] Hornacek: ‘No doubt’ in my mind Porzingis will remain with Knicks
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 10:09:21 AM)

    Jeff Hornacek was adamant that Kristaps Porzingis will be back with the Knicks next season.

  • [NYDN] Jeff Hornacek says he and Phil Jackson haven’t had the talk yet
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 8:48:11 AM)

    Phil Jackson’s plan of getting more involved next season – or “mentoring” – is not something he has discussed yet with Jeff Hornacek.

  • [SNY Knicks] De’Aaron Fox would ‘love’ to play with Porzingis
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 10:46:26 PM)

    Ex-Kentucky point guard De’Aaron Fox met with Knicks president Phil Jackson on Wednesday before the start of the NBA Combine, and the topic of the triangle offense and New York’s star Kristaps Porzingis emerged.

  • [SNY Knicks] Phil Jackson reiterates desire to move on from Carmelo Anthony
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 5:58:41 PM)

    Phil Jackson once again stated his desire to trade Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony this offseason by commenting on the veteran at the NBA Combine on Friday evening.

  • [NY Newsday] Phil Jackson reiterates that Knicks’ Carmelo Anthony would be better off elsewhere
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 6:58:54 PM)

    CHICAGO — Phil Jackson believes NBA players union executive director Michele Roberts was “working it” when she said the Knicks president be fined for saying Carmelo Anthony should leave the Knicks.

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks Insider podcast: Keep developing Kristaps Porzingis
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 11:53:00 AM)

    Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek is in Chicago for the NBA Draft Combine. 

  • [NYPost] De’Aaron Fox: I’d love to play on Knicks with Kristaps Porzingis
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 5:16:09 PM)

    CHICAGO — Kentucky freshman point guard speedster De’Aaron Fox didn’t have much to say about the triangle but had good stuff on possibly playing alongside disgruntled Knicks big man Kristaps Porzingis. The 6-foot-3 Fox, one of only two projected top-10 picks to show up at the NBA Draft Combine, met with Knicks president Phil Jackson…

  • [NYPost] Jackson gives Carmelo personal support, but still wants him gone
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 2:25:27 PM)

    CHICAGO — While Phil Jackson declined to discuss the Kristaps Porzingis flap, the Zen Master said he reached out to Carmelo Anthony to show his support over the superstar’s personal issues but still thinks he is better off “somewhere else.” Jackson, showing up at the Chicago Quest gym Friday at the NBA Draft Combine, was…

  • [NYTimes] Wizards 92, Celtics 91: John Wall Hits 3-Pointer With 3.5 Seconds Left to Lift Wizards
    (Saturday, May 13, 2017 3:05:51 AM)

    Wall’s 3 gave Washington the win in Game 6, sending their series against the Celtics back to Boston for a decisive Game 7.

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: $150 to Try Out: Spurs Guard Jonathon Simmons’s Story of Perseverance
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 5:49:56 PM)

    Before his starring role in the playoff elimination of the Rockets, Simmons was an undrafted player whose small investment in himself paid off.

  • [NYTimes] At N.B.A. Combine Where Top Talent Is on the Sideline, Knicks Dream Big
    (Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:48:48 AM)

    Knicks officials saw more value in meeting with the draft’s big names in a hotel room rather than attending an event in which many don’t participate.

  • [NYTimes] Hamidou Diallo Hasn’t Played a Game in Months. But His Draft Stock Is Rising.
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 7:41:21 PM)

    Diallo, now at Kentucky and known for his athleticism, has not played an official game since before Christmas, but his stock appears to be rising as the draft approaches.

  • [NYTimes] With a New Team and a New Baby, Bria Hartley Has Something to Prove
    (Friday, May 12, 2017 11:54:26 PM)

    After being traded and taking time off to have a baby, the New York Liberty point guard said she was motivated to break a variety of perceptions.

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    I’ll be honest, I’m extremely worried about the Knicks interest in Monk.

    I don’t think there is a scenario where we draft Malik Monk. If all 5 point guards, Josh Jackson, and Jay Tatum go in the top 7 and we pick 8th that means Jonathan Isaac is available. If Isaac, Tatum, and Jackson are top 7 and 4 point guards go, that leaves Frank, Fox, or Smith Jr available. It’s my belief that if Malik Monk doesn’t get drafted by Philly that he goes to Dallas or he falls out of the top 10 altogether and Stephen A Smith screams he was the steal of the draft.

    I’d take any mid to late first round pick for Melo right now. In this draft we can get a really good player. Guys like OG, Giles, Kennard, Diallo, Hart, Thornwell, Frank Jackson, Jordan Bell, Ferguson, Tyler Dorsey, Ojeleye, Swanigan, Justin Jackson could all be there.

    I’d rather have Frank, Fox or Smith over Monk but I’m basing it on what we know about Monk as a short shooting guard. If he has the capacity to play PG for us and defend well against other point guards then it’s a whole new ballgame regarding him. He’s a dynamic scorer and a great athlete so if he can defend PGs then he could be a steal.

    I’m more worried that we draft Tatum.

    Fultz, Ball and Jackson will surely be gone by the time #7 rolls around. Fox is probably gone too.

    Isaac, Tatum, Smith, Markannen, Monk, and maybe even Collins can all sneak into the top 6.

    The guy that almost certainly will be there at #7 is Ntilikina. I just don’t see any team risking a top 6 pick on him. Because of his minor role on an obscure euro team, he’s very hard to scout.

    A lot will be riding on how Monday’s lottery turns out. Like if the lakers slip and philly winds up with two top picks, what do they do?

    My guess is that we draft either Smith or Frank.

    Assuming the draft order stays unchanged I can’t see Tatum getting past Orlando at 5 or Isaac getting past Minnesota at 6.

    The top 6 then, in some order I expect to be Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Isaac and Fox or Smith. Markkanen could also sneak into that equation given his shooting prowess which, plenty of those teams really need, especially from a frontcourt position.

    I’d venture to guess that when the Knicks pick there’s a 35% chance Fox is still on the board, a 65% chance Smith is and a 100% chance Frank is, if that’s your cup of tea.

    Although probably not worthy of a number 7 pick, I really like Frank Jackson too. He’s the youngest player in the draft, can shoot, is 6’4″ 200+ lbs. OG is a defensive stopper and I know that Gaines has scouted him before his injury. Collins has great talent and, although we don’t seem to need his position filled right now, he could be considered the BPA when we pick. And Diallo is a great wild card.

    I think Donovan Mitchell has a chance to significantly outperform his likely draft slot in the late lottery. Reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon, pre-injury, coming out of IU. Less of a scorer and a better defender though. Measurements are virtually identical and similarly can swing between both guard spots.

    @9

    I agree, and it seems as if DX does as well–he’s jumped up to #12 from #22 in their latest mock.

    Thornwell is still at #55 though. That can’t be right.

    I really like Dennis Smith, Jr., don’t have any heavy duty statistical analysis to back it up, but he’s a tremendous athlete with an explosive first step and seems like he might be a Kyle Lowry type of PG.

    It’s all such a crap shoot though. Out of Fox, Ntilikina and Smith, who knows which one of them is going to be a stud or a bust? One thing we have to realize though, is that whoever we draft, their first season is going to be rocky. It takes time for PG’s to develop, so we really won’t know for a few years whether we made the right pick (or not)

    The worry is not so much that there won’t be a point guard available at #7, it will be that there will be a point guard available at #7 and Malik Monk available at #7, and that the Knicks would take Malik Monk in such a scenario. I think/hope that they wouldn’t do that, but it’s a legitimate concern.

    @BC

    How good is that Otto Porter max gonna look this summer after that nasty 0 point performance last night?

    How good is that Otto Porter max gonna look this summer after that nasty 0 point performance last night?

    Porter’s not going to score if Beal and Wall call their own number each time (he took 5 shots, they took 51). That they did so and the Wizards won ties into that thing I was talking about the other day about how the Wizards are debating whether they’d be better off letting Porter go, signing a stopgap free agent this year (plus I presume play Oubre more) and then sign a max guy next season, someone like Boogie.

    Not sure Boogie’s the answer though I get the appeal. What they really need is a C as good as Gortat used to be and another 3/4 like Kieff. Easier said then done but if you could fine another Kieff level 3/4, albeit a slightly better shooter, and a reasonabe facsimile of what Gortat used to be they’d be better balanced imo.

    I know Porter didn’t exactly get a lot of touches, but he also didn’t do anything when he did get the ball. There was one play where Wall kicked it to him in the corner for a 3, he pump faked on IT, then took an awful one dribble, 20 foot pull up. After that I’m not sure he looked at the hoop much beyond a spot up in the 3rd Q that he bricked. He seemed very shook by Boston’s defensive pressure yesterday. One way to help him get off would be to run a PNR with him and Beal and get him switched onto IT, who he burned in the post in Games 3 and 4.

    I mention Boogie more because he’s famous 2019 free agent. I don’t really know the other ones off hand. 🙂 But just in general, Washington is going to be an appealing spot for a major free agent in 2019 period due to Wall and Beal. That’s only if they have the room for said free agent. And they’ll only have room if they don’t re-sign Porter.

    Otto Porter Jr is also turning 24 next month. His best years are ahead of him for sure. They just need to fire Scott Brooks and get a coach that has an actual system.

    That’s the heart of the debate, though, right? Porter is young and already really good. So do you let a guy like that go in the hopes of getting along without him for one year and then getting a big free agent in two years? Or do you just re-sign Porter to a max deal in the hopes that Porter gets even better? I don’t know the right answer. I personally would stick with Porter, but it’s not an easy call, I don’t think.

    Brooks’ system is just fine. Wall, Beal, Porter and Kieff had career seasons, Washington’s underlying fundamentals improved in all regards and he committed to a small ball lineup best suited to the personnel at his disposal, something he was criticized for non-stop in OKC. He also did this with largely the same players that went 40-42 last year.

    @BC

    I wouldn’t give Porter a max, because his defense isn’t that good imo. If he was stronger and more able to flex down to defend 4’s then his offensive limitations off the dribble wouldn’t concern me. That said, giving him a massive contract is justifiable and it’s easier for me to say they shouldn’t give it to him than to provide a better alternative.

    I’m not a huge Brooks fan, but I think he’s done a much better job in Washington than his predecessor.

    Why not try to sign and trade Porter

    If they decide not to sign him, I imagine that that’s exactly what they’ll try to do. The issue there, of course, is whether a team first signs him to an offer sheet. If someone does that, then that foils any sign and trade attempt.

    Who the hell are the Wizards going to trade Otto Porter for who is better than Otto Porter?

    What kind of draft pick would Porter be worth? Would you give up the 6th pick for Porter? How about Middleton and a future 1st? Would Crabbe and Portland’s first two picks or entire 1st rd draft be too much? That would kill their rebounding but they could lock up some cheap bench players in the draft.

    I think I would try to see if Denver was a possibility and try to pull Juan and some picks from them.

    Agree with the comments above, this appears to be a very deep draft so getting a mid to late round pick in addition to their own pick would be huge for the Knicks. The risk on these picks is high, it is very hard hard to predict who will be great and who will be a bust ( see previous drafts for numerous examples), so having more picks in round 1 would naturally reduce the risk.

    Not a huge fan of Monk or the idea that he can be “converted” to a point guard, I could be wrong but the risk/reward calculation doesn’t work for me based on past performance.

    I repeat: the Knicks need a point guard in the worst way, hopefully one is available when they draft and they pick the right one ( or can obtain one i.e. Rubio or another above average veteran not named Derrick Rose).

    We shouldn’t forget Teodosic’s name either.

    “It’s obviously great any time you get to hear [Steve Kerr’s] voice, see his face,” Stephen Curry said after practice. “He’s obviously been doing his homework in between. His downtime is to help us get prepared for the series and you know he misses being around the day-to-day routine, the atmosphere, practice and locker rooms and games and all that. So, for him to even just have the energy and ability to be here means a lot. Hopefully, he’s feeling better.”

    Imagine any NY Knicks player saying this about any Knicks coach. Now wake up from the fantasy and gaze at your Kazoos.

    I watched this tape of Monk and came away very impressed. This kid is an amazing offensive presence with a great, great shot, ridiculous range, and the ability to go to the rim, possesses a nice handle, and has the athleticism to defend other point guards. He belongs in the discussion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNRHkqq9Aw

    watched this tape of Monk and came away very impressed. This kid is an amazing offensive presence with a great, great shot, ridiculous range, and the ability to go to the rim, possesses a nice handle, and has the athleticism to defend other point guards. He belongs in the discussion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNRHkqq9Aw

    He going to be a terrific scorer, but what else can he do?

    I think the Knicks supposed interest is Monk is a smoke screen. Jackson went out of his way to describe the kind of player we are looking for. He wants a skilled player that plays well in a “team concept”. They aren’t looking for guys that can do a 360 and jump out of the gym.

    Monk either has to be a very high efficiency scorer or he has to have more to his game than he showed at Kentucky, because his non-scoring stats are atrocious. Otherwise you’re looking at another Ben Gordon, who was a legit NBA player, but nothing special.

    Otherwise you’re looking at another Ben Gordon, who was a legit NBA player, but nothing special.

    I agree. What’s Malik Monk’s ceiling? How many ultra-efficient two-guards with little else to their game even exist? Best case scenario he’s what, like a healthier Eric Gordon? A more efficient Tyreke Evans? Monk would have to be up at a .600+ TS% to make up for how weak the rest of his game is.

    He’s so Knicksy he’s one of those guys that just seems like an inevitable Knick.

    It’s worth noting that out of all 6 lottery guards Malik Monk might have the lowest basketball IQ.

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