2016-17 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Clippers

Well, you certainly can’t say that the Knicks are not an interesting team to follow, at the very least.

The Los Angeles Clippers come to MSG tonight as the Knicks are in the midst of some turmoil surrounding whether or not Carmelo Anthony plans on exercising his no trade clause or not. I joked the other day that Melo exercising his no trade clause is like the villain in a horror film. Until he literally does so, don’t believe it’s done. It might look like it’s done, but until it is actually done, beware!

But yeah, weird game tonight. Jeff Hornacek sounds like a dude who’s thinking, “Man, what did I sign up for?” in the pregame discussions. Meanwhile, you have a spiraling Clippers team and the whole thing is just fascinating. I mean, I guess we have to root for Melo to torch the Clippers but then the Clippers baaaaaaaaaaarely winning. Or maybe this is one of the few games we’re okay with the Knicks winning, because it might make the Clippers more desperate? I dunno. It’ll be interesting either way!

Let’s? Go Knicks!

200 replies on “2016-17 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Clippers”

Melo scores 60 on 25 FGA and grabs 16 boards. Clips win by one on a 4 point play by Austin Rivers at the buzzer.

I’m very nervous about this one. The Clippers without Paul are pretty bad. If we weren’t a dysfunctional mess we might be favored. Alas, we are, so I have hope.

Al Trautwig has lots of money. He should spend some of it to clean and whiten his teeth.

How good would we be if we signed CP3? Just dreaming.

KP is back.

Porzingis!

They look uncharacteristically dedicated to sharing the ball and running a competent offense. Maybe there was a team meeting or something. That’s not good.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the long-standing issues between Oak and Dolan?

Jamal Crawford, Ray Felton, and Marresse Speights hitting 40% from 3. How are the Clips losing?

The Oakley blow up was another brilliant ruse created by Philmelo to distract from the impending trade rumors/flame war. Oakley created the distraction and Phil calmed him down with his Zen-like mastery of The Force. Its all part of The Plan.

You heard it from me first.

It looks like he was maybe yelling at Dolan put he only got physical with security people.

No. You’re making it up.

You just don’t think five dimensionally like Philmelo and I do.

You heard that from me first.

It’s kinda when Breen works for ESPN. I wonder if he is bound by msg rules of what they can discuss

I actually got home around the 4 minute mark and just saw the shot chart. So I stand corrected I guess. But never thought Blake was a great shooter of long 2’s.

That’s what they need Melo for!

oh man…was gonna stay off the site and wait to get home and watch the game on the dvr…only the knicks, only the knicks…

just checked in on espn and saw the oak thing…

shit, if oak could still suit up we may not be in the mess we are…

guess oak just wanted to thank dolan for the superb product he’s help put out on the court…only the knicks…

Wow, the Knicks totally threw Oak under the bus, too, with their press release. “We hope he gets help soon.” Daaaang.

Another exciting spectacle by our beloved team. Fighting and scoring. Like the MMA.

MSG released a statement already:

“Charles.,

I am.just guessing but ill bet your life is a mess and you are a hateful mess. What have you done that anyone would consider positive or nice. I am betting nothing. In fact ill bet you are negative force in everyone who comes in contact with you. You most likely have made your family miserable. Alcoholic maybe. I just celebrated my 21 year anniversary of sobriety. You should try it. Maybe it will help you become a person that folks would like to have around. In the mean while start rooting.for the Nets because the Knicks dont want you.

Respectfully

James Dolan”

Oakley has been ignored and mistreated by this franchise for years.

So basically he represents every Knicks fan.

And he did what every Knicks fan has fantasized about by cursing out James Dolan.

O’Quinn stole the ball and went coast to coast for a dunk earlier. Impressive.

Well, the Knicks have fully blown up into the biggest soap opera, and biggest laughing stock, in all of sports right now. The wheels are completely off.

Of course they will win a bunch of meaningless games to put a nice little cherry on top of the shit sundae.

I’m going to guess even Phil doesn’t have enough in his stash to smoke his way through the rest of this season.

If Phil wasn’t there to calm down Oakley there’s no telling what kind of tragedy we’d be looking at right now.

James Dolan probably owes his life to the Zen Master.

His job is secure now in keeping Dolan alive, but its another area where Phil has done more damage than good.

I just started watching the game… is Carmelo trying to take as many contested long twos as he can? I know he can’t get the rim anymore, but is this all that’s gonna happen from now on?

Jordan with an air ball on a foul shot makes me miss Noah even more.

LOL @ the Knicks defense.

Only crazy people laugh at things that don’t exist.

I’m rolling

Melo with the long three.
Let’s consummate this trade at the half.

the Knicks had their best defensive player arrested so what did they think was going to happen?

the Knicks had their best defensive player arrested so what did they think was going to happen?

ahahahahaha

ESPN’s halftime team is a travesty. Not my beloved, exciting Knicks.

No wonder ESPN is dragging Disney down with clowns like these.

Clippers are in real trouble if they’re having this much trouble with us. They just might become a 7th seed in the West at this rate.

They’re something like 4-11 without CP3.

We can help them out there by taking Austin Rivers off their hands. smh

Deandre is such a limited offensive player. All he does is dunk 10 times a game

lmao

I switched back to MSG because I couldn’t take those halftime clowns knocking the team.

Deandre is such a limited offensive player. All he does is dunk 10 times a game

Basically all you have to do is stop him from jumping 40″ in the air while a player as unskilled as an 8th-grader tosses the ball in his general direction. It’s that simple. He doesn’t have the diverse skillset of, say, a Carmelo Anthony, who can take roughly 18 different types of long-range twos.

the Clippers would be barely .500 if they didn’t have Paul, damn.

not even Deandre’s domination can save them from so many minutes to bad players.

this is going to be a terrible win, I’m feeling it.

The only difference between the Knicks and the Clippers is CP3.

Wilty trying to foul Jordan out of the game… someone tell him the only way for Phil to get him and KP a legit PG is to tank…

Derrick Rose decided tonight was a good time to have a good game, huh?

And Melo’s diminished athleticism wouldn’t be a problem if he played power forward.

This Knicks team is trying too hard and playing too unselfishly. I am worried for our tank.

They’re going to win this game so I’ll just try to start getting over it now. The Clippers without Paul are awful.

Melos auditioning tonight. Whether it’s for the Clips or Knicks is anyone’s guess.

We’re winning this game, aren’t we?

The one positive I can see from this is that the Clippers are sinking and sinking fast.

They should be begging to take Melo for whatever they can give us.

I wonder what the story would be on Blake and DJ if they never played with CP3. The Clippers are a shit show without him.

Yes the Clips will be desperate for Melo after this game. But this Melo is really, really good.
This Melo doesn’t come cheap.

KP has to learn not to bring the ball down in traffic.

So true. KP needs to remember he’s 7’3 not 6’3. He needs to work with Kevin McHale who was brilliant at keeping the ball up high and using his length in the post to score on defenders.

I have this weird feeling that Melo’s almost playing like it’s his last game as a Knick.

I have this weird feeling that Melo’s almost playing like it’s his last game as a Knick.

Let’s hope so.

You can see why this Clippers team never does a thing in the postseason despite the fact that Chris Paul is a generational talent at PG. This team is horrendously overrated.

Honestly if you added CP3 to our team we’re contenders.

If you added CP3 to the Nets they’d be contenders in the East. He’s that damn good.

2. Blake has lost his hops by ALOT

I always felt he was the type of player who would not age well.

Jordan was over the back on Melo there but they called the foul on us of course.

KP learning why all these dumb fouls catch up with you in the end.

He couldn’t contest Jordan’s drive because of his 5 fouls.

All of Melo, KP, and Derrick Rose decide to have good games.

This is why we can’t have good things. I’m glad to see KP bounce back though.

LOL I am digging Lance Thomas’ 1984 Miami Vice suit. I can hear Flock of Seagulls in the bckground when I see him.

At the wolves Raptors game and the wolves pulled it out.

Come on Knicks tank tank tank!

@142 just like he did back in the day, except Isaiah had traded away all their picks.

As much as I like Willy Hernangomez I think the Knicks would be a better team with a DJ/Gobert type center next to KP who only dunks, blocks shots, and gets boards. I don’t know if that guy is Ivan Rabb, but I know that’s exactly who Mo Bamba is in next year’s draft.

Ian Begley
ESPN Staff Writer

An NYPD police source told ESPN that Charles Oakley was making comments towards James Dolan and eventually Dolan had security escort him out.

Isn’t this the best kinda game, Melo increases his trade value, KP plays well and one loss closer to whoever it is we want to draft.

As much as I like Willy Hernangomez I think the Knicks would be a better team with a DJ/Gobert type center next to KP who only dunks, blocks shots, and gets boards

I hear you, but there aren’t exactly a lot of those guys.

Ohm Youngmisuk
ESPN Staff Writer

When Charles Oakley was traded to Toronto after 10 years in New York for Marcus Camby, Oakley was devastated. He loved being a Knick and playing in New York. He brought a lot of much-needed toughness to Toronto but his heart never left New York. Of course, Oakley is outspoken and his passion for the Knicks sometimes led to criticism of owner James Dolan when the Knicks struggled. That kept him from being recognized with other former Knicks at Madison Square Garden. This season is the Knicks’ 70th season and the franchise has honored former players all season, something that surely Oakley would have loved to have experienced.

A loss like this may be disheartening for the players, but it’s great for the tank. And one late 3 from being perfect for the Melo trade.

amazing end result… another loss for the tank, Melo played his heart out and Oak confronted Dolan.

tank tank!

As much as I like Willy Hernangomez I think the Knicks would be a better team with a DJ/Gobert type center next to KP who only dunks, blocks shots, and gets boards

In Willy’s defense, he gets plenty of boards. Though his dunking and shot blocking leave much to be desired.

Derrick Rose goes for 20 points, 8 assists, and 7 rebounds. Melo goes for 28 points, 9 rebounds, 1 steal and 2 blocks. We still lose lol.

When the stars play well and you still lose who do you blame?

@167

well, if they were actual stars and played like this all the time this would be just an unfortunate loss in a pretty good season.

I know. Rose and Melo aren’t really stars at all. I’m just saying that tonight’s loss, while I love it, is an indictment on Phil as much as it is everyone else. Or maybe Melo’s 1 assist is the reason we lost in Phil’s mind?

Trade Melo.
Let Rose walk.
Fire Phil.

Maybe Kevin Pritchard is available.

If we were to intentionally tank…and I’m not saying we should. ..we have a lot of players who we could trade for future assets.

Mike Zarren, known to be Danny Ainge’s analytics guru, is a great option for us as General Manager I think. Remove Phil Jackson and Steve Mills, hire Zarren (but for the love of God keep Gaines on because the Celtics cannot draft), and find some other smart guy to be the President of Basketball Operations.

Over 20 years later and Charles Oakley, my favorite Knick next to Patrick, is still sonnin’ fools and letting dudes know what’s really good.

#freeOakley

so reub, who do we have worth trading? and what can we get for them. My analysis:
-Not much.

Oak died for our sins.

Is this what happens when I don’t post for a week?

Someone edited the “Personal Life” section of Oak’s wikipedia article:

On February 8, 2017 Oakley tried to fight the devil, James Dolan, and ascended into heaven while draped but 37 security guards.

You think the Oakley incident puts the pressure on Dolan to fire Phil? It can trickle down and be a media shitstorm for Dolan and he’ll think “if we were winning this wouldn’t be an issue.”

Melo was pretty funny with his post-game quotes today about Phil’s latest tweet. Say what you want about Melo as a player but he’s handled all this Phil crap about as good as anybody could’ve possibly handled it.

Dennis Smith and NC State was crushed by FSU. Jonathan Isaac had 21 points on 6-10 shooting, 8-11 FT, 7 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk in just 24 minutes of play. No way this guy slips past the top five picks.

Melo was pretty funny with his post-game quotes today about Phil’s latest tweet. Say what you want about Melo as a player but he’s handled all this Phil crap about as good as anybody could’ve possibly handled it.

Always good to know that he has to answer all the questions about Phil’s behavior while Phil doesn’t have to say anything.

Dennis Smith and NC State was crushed by FSU. Jonathan Isaac had 21 points on 6-10 shooting, 8-11 FT, 7 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk in just 24 minutes of play. No way this guy slips past the top five picks.

Yeah, I think Isaac definitely goes top five.

So we just have one more potential tank derailment against Denver on Friday before going to OKC and then facing the Spurs at home. Let’s not fuck this up.

Sacramento blowing out the Celtics. That’s positive in a few ways.

I watched the replay of Oakley and he wasn’t very cool striking security personnel who are just there to earn a living. I can’t condone his actions.

LOL the Kings actually beat the Celtics without Cousins. 21 wins. We’re on our way, boys.

Incredible dunk but what the hell is with the corny play by play?

There are so many poor announcers in the NBA. Kenny Albert is easily top 10 and I don’t even think he’s good.

@196

Actually, “If you don’t like that, you don’t like NBA basketball!” is one of my favorite announcer catchphrases.

I watched the replay of Oakley and he wasn’t very cool striking security personnel who are just there to earn a living. I can’t condone his actions.

but he’s Oak tho

There are so many poor announcers in the NBA. Kenny Albert is easily top 10 and I don’t even think he’s good.

I was just thinking of him the other day on roughly that same point, that he stands out just by being competent.

Watching the replay, it sure was fun to see KP with clutch dunks like he had tonight.

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