Knicks Morning News (2016.02.06)

  • [New York Post] Will Carmelo ignore escalating knee issue for All-Star Game again? (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 00:51:32 -0500)

    Now it's really starting to feel like last season. Carmelo Anthony missed his unlucky seventh game Friday against Memphis with left knee soreness that became alarming enough he chose to take an MRI exam. Knicks coach Derek Fisher said the exam showed no structural damage and the injury still is considered soreness. But Anthony elected…

  • [New York Times] Spurs Embarrass Mavericks in Dallas (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 06:18:27 GMT)

    The San Antonio Spurs handed the Dallas Mavericks one of their more humiliating home defeats in franchise history with a 116-90 victory on Friday in front a stunned-silent sellout crowd at American Airlines Center.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies 91, Knicks 85: Without Carmelo Anthony, Knicks Put Up a Valiant Fight, Then Fade (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 05:49:31 GMT)

    Arron Afflalo had a chance to tie the game in the final seconds for the cold-shooting Knicks, but the ball rattled out.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Nets Unleash 18 3-Pointers in Home Win (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 05:21:00 GMT)

    The Nets had their best offensive performance of the season on Friday, beating the Sacramento Kings, 128-119, at Barclays Center.

  • [New York Times] Nuggets Rally for Win After Bulls Lose Butler to Injury (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 05:18:45 GMT)

    Danilo Gallinari scored 33 points Friday night, and the Denver Nuggets rallied for a 115-110 victory against Chicago after the Bulls lost All-Star Jimmy Butler to a sprained left knee.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Hand Mavs Largest Halftime Deficit in 116-90 Blowout (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 05:15:45 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard scored 16 of his 23 points in the first half and the San Antonio Spurs handed Dallas its largest halftime deficit in franchise history in a 116-90 blowout of the Mavericks on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Pull Away in Fourth Quarter for 84-81 Win Over Bucks (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 05:06:53 GMT)

    Rodney Hood scored 23 points and the Utah Jazz pulled away late in an 84-81 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks on Friday night despite an ugly offensive performance.

  • [New York Times] Johnson, Nets Have Season-Best Night in Beating Kings (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 04:31:00 GMT)

    Joe Johnson and the Nets kept pouring it on in their best performance of the season, though the Kings’ problems went beyond their defense.

  • [New York Times] Bradley’s 3-Pointer at Horn Gives Celtics 104-103 Win (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 04:27:45 GMT)

    Once he got control of the ball and let his shot fly, Avery Bradley prepared to get mobbed.

  • [New York Times] Whiteside Gets Triple-Double as Heat Hold Off Hornets (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 04:18:55 GMT)

    Miami Heat center Hassan Whiteside did his part to prevent the Charlotte Hornets from scoring inside.

  • [New York Times] Green Scores 16 Points and Grizzlies Hold Off Knicks 91-85 (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 03:39:53 GMT)

    Jeff Green scored 16 points, including two free throws with 6.2 seconds left, to help the Memphis Grizzlies hold off the New York Knicks 91-85 on Friday night for their fifth straight win.

  • [New York Times] From Greece to New York, Antetokounmpo Lands With Knicks (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 03:30:27 GMT)

    As paths to the NBA from Europe go, Thanasis Antetokounmpo has taken the long way, but having signed a second short-term contract with the New York Knicks and made his NBA debut, he is determined to make his stay as long as possible.

  • [New York Times] Millsap, Horford Pace Hawks Past Pacers 102-96 (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 02:57:41 GMT)

    Paul Millsap scored 24 points, Al Horford added 21 points and the Atlanta Hawks won their third straight game with a 102-96 victory over the Indiana Pacers on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Paul, Jordan Power Clippers Past Magic 107-93 (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 02:51:54 GMT)

    Chris Paul had 21 points and six assists, DeAndre Jordan had 12 points and 18 rebounds and the Los Angeles Clippers beat the Orlando Magic 107-93 on Friday night for their fifth win in six games.

  • [New York Times] Wall’s Triple-Double Leads Wizards to 106-94 Win Over 76ers (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 02:39:40 GMT)

    John Wall had his fourth career triple-double with 18 points, a career-high 13 rebounds and 10 assists, leading the Washington Wizards over the Philadelphia 76ers 106-94 Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Diminutive All-Star Isaiah Thomas Finds Shoulders to Stand On (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 02:12:10 GMT)

    Thomas acknowledged a debt to the undersize men who played before him, like Muggsy Bogues, who has become a mentor and sounding board for Thomas.

  • [New York Daily News] For Carter and fan, different kind of Vinsanity in stands (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 06:20:31 GMT)

    A bizarre chain of events left a fan ejected from the Garden with an ice pack and Vince Carter scratching his head.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo sits out with sore knee as Knicks fall to Grizz 91-85 (Sat, 06 Feb 2016 06:09:40 GMT)

    There’s suddenly a strong resemblance to last season for the Knicks — the losing has snowballed and Melo is on the sideline.

  • 39 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.02.06)”

    Yesterday our Willy Hernangomez had a great game in Euroleague Top 16. He signed 13 points, 8 boards and 3 blocks in 23 minutes, and played very good defense against greek center Ioannis Bourousis, who has been one of the top players in Euroleague and in Spanish ACB this season. He’s been playing better lately after a slow start of the season (Real Madrid signing another center las month has been a wake up call), has made several good games against spanish weakest teams but has not played much in Euroleague and against top spanish teams (this could be his first good game against strong competition).
    For those of you who don’t know him, he kind of reminds me rookie Mozgov. Hernangomez may be a better offensive player (very smart, good pnr player, good finisher around the rim with both hands…), but defensively he’s not there yet (specially 1 on 1 against strong players).

    On a side note, his younger brother, Juancho, is climbing on next draft. He’s starting to show up at late first round on most mock drafts.

    Very relieved by KP’s performance last night. How strange is it that KP’s WS/48 so far ranks 4th among rookie bigs who are 20yo or less, after Jokic, Towns, Turner? Looking forward to watching Jokic tomorrow. How unprecedented is it for a 20yo drafted 41st to be putting up a WS/48 of .195 in his rookie season? Don’t anyone try to tell me 2nd round picks are not important. Just draft really young guys and maybe you win the lottery. Phil should be shopping Calderon/Afflalo/Dwill for some of those 2nd round picks. And Phil also needs to call Doc Rivers and convince him that a high octane spread PnR offense (Phoenix early 2000s but better defense) is the only way to break through. He should remind him that a couple of years ago we had the #5 ranked offense (spread PnR) but we had Felton instead of Paul, Shump instead of Redick, JR instead of Pierce, and so on.

    Yeah, I’ve never been a fan of the way the Knicks’ disregard for their draft picks, including second-rounders.

    What’s the official word on Melo’s knee? He’s been lowkey gimpy for a couple weeks now.

    Officially, there’s no structural damage, but yeah, they definitely seem worried, which, in turn, makes me worry.

    After watching Jose outplay Conley last night I don’t think that he’s worth max money.

    After watching Jose outplay Conley last night I don’t think that he’s worth max money.

    Always make multi-million dollar decisions based on one game. It’s the oldest rule in the book.

    I’ve been clamoring for the Knicks to release objectively garbage basketballer Langston Galloway for at least 18 hours

    After watching Jose outplay Conley last night I don’t think that he’s worth max money.

    People really underestimate Jose. He’s still a really talented player. You can question his defense, but he contributes a lot on offense. He’s an excellent shooter and knows how to run the point better than a lot of guys.

    Is Jose a net positive for an average NBA team? I dunno. But I’m pretty confident he’s better than Arron Afflalo, Jerian Grant and the empty husk of Sasha Vujacic.

    Berman already starting the hit pieces on Phil Jackson today. Stefan Bondy of the Daily News has been ripping and mocking Fisher for the last couple of weeks on Twitter. I think its safe to say the feel good vibe to this Knicks season is officially over.

    By BPM and WS/48 Calderon is a net positive.

    That being said it might be the case that the metrics don’t do an adequate job of capturing his poor defense–I think he’s at worst a break-even type of player.

    Re: Conley: He’s been above-average for about the last 5 years, but he peaked 2-3 years ago (and was very good then.) I wouldn’t pay him max money–it’s pretty likely that all the max prospects aren’t going to perform above their contract level. I would rather just try to make some value plays and see what sticks while saving some of our cap.

    Also who can we deal for some seconds? I think there’s some pretty good, unheralded prospects that are gonna go in the 2nd this year.

    Calderon would be great in a late era Jason Kidd role of a ball-moving shooting guard off the bench.

    Unless they’re going to let a pg run the offense why spend money on someone you are not going to let use parts of their game that make them valuable.

    I am not a fan of Wroten but I would have signed him and try develop him into a defensive of who can push in transition and run simple PnR plays in the triangle sets. I’d cut/trade Lou/Seraphin right now to do this.
    It really doesn’t have to be Wroten but any pg.

    Batum/Bazemore for 2016. Clear the space and make it happen.

    Batum/Bazemore for 2016. Clear the space and make it happen.

    I don’t think they can clear enough room for those two. They’re probably going to make at least $40 million between them.

    If AA/DW opt out they would need to dump Calderon. The next option would be to cut/stretch Calderon and trade K’Oq.

    I think Calderon will be gone. I don’t think it is a coincidence that it was leak that they tried to trade him this summer.

    So they can either trade 3 players for two or 4 players for two. It very well would probably be 4 for 2 to go to the maximum limit. I would still do it because with Bazemore and Batum they can potentially push the lineup back in one spot in 2017 if Porzingis grows into a Center allowing the Knicks to go after a pg in 2017. Who knows, by then maybe just maybe Gallo or Grant grows into a mid-level pg. If that is the case they can fill out their roster respectively in the draft and FA.

    Also, if I am the knicks I look into trading AA to Utah for a couple of 2nd rd picks and one of Ingles or Chris Joshnson(Vet min.) AA might be a nice rental for them as they try to keep their playoff lives. They are under the cap so sending back a vet works in case they want to hang on to Ingles, well at least it did in the trade machine and RealGM trade checker. : )

    My other option would be AA for Waiter/Novak plus picks.

    If Phil can’t add a good guard very quickly we should probably start playing for next year. Trade AA, Jose, Seraphin, Oquinn, DWill. Get a few nice young players or picks. Play Grant and bring up Fredette, Atkins, Bachynski and Trice or sign Wroten or Russ Smith or similar. The future is our friend.

    Even if you somehow dump Calderon without adding on any salary, and if they cut Early (to save a half million in cap space), if you go into the offseason with the following players under contract:


    and the following two cap holds:

    Galloway (whose cap hold can go up by $1.5 million if he plays 2,000 minutes this year)

    and three cap holds for the open roster spots, which is roughly $500×3=$1.5 million

    then the available cap space for two free agents would be $37.8 million on a $90 million cap.

    That’s not enough for Bazemore and Batum. Now if you dump O’Quinn as well without taking on salary, then that does get you to $41 million. But it seems hard to believe that you’re going to be able to dump both Calderon and O’Quinn without taking on salary (and even under that scenario…A. Galloway’s cap hold could screw you by increasing by $1.5 million, in which case you’re back under $40 million in cap room and B. Bazemore could easily be looking at $18 million from Atlanta, in which case $41 million isn’t even enough, as Batum’s getting $25 million no doubt).

    I just don’t think Bazemore and Batum is very likely.

    put me down for no Bazemore at 20pct of the cap. I see the appeal, especially age, but his 3&d are both too risky for my taste. He’s active on d but not a stopper and makes a lot of mistakes.. And it’s far from clear what his long term 3pt % will be.

    I don’t care what the market says; you don’t build a competitive basketball team by overpaying for role players. Kent Bazemore at anything over $12 million a year (which is already ridiculous) is not a contract we should look to sign. I’d pass on Bazemore, especially when you consider he offers very little in the playmaking department. Guys like Batum and Parsons (who should opt out) will probably be better signings at comparable money.

    I have no issue with passing on Bazemore, just noting that contracts are going to be nuts the next couple of seasons. DeMarre Carroll was probably a better free agent than Bazemore, but not by a huge difference. And Carroll got $15 million per on a $70 million cap. If the cap was $90 million, he’d have easily exceeded $20 million. Hence Bazemore likely getting $18 million and Batum likely a lock at $25 million (Parsons might not be eligible for a $25 million max yet, I dunno).

    Then the cap goes up again the next year to roughly $110 million! Batum’s max would be $30 million in 2017!!!

    So sure, by all means, pass on these guys, just don’t make plans on getting anyone good without spending a lot, ya know?

    I am not sure Bazemore is getting that much($18m). Maybe, you’re right though. $15m is pushing to me but I would consider doing because the cap is going up.

    As the season continues and Charlotte continues to win it makes the chance of Batum leaving for the Knicks less likely.

    if I am the knicks I look into trading AA to Utah for a couple of 2nd rd picks and one of Ingles or Chris Joshnson

    Utah is due to get Alec Burks back from injury after the all-star break. He’s a younger, more versatile, more useful version of Afflalo.

    The league is so restrictive of player movement that the only guys that really become available in free agency are mid-level guys whose current teams have stretched payrolls and tax considerations. The Monroes, the Lopezs, the Carrolls, etc…

    A few days ago, posters were discussing the “allure” and competitive advantage of NY for free agents once the team is good again. If the Knicks still haven’t learned anything, and insist on going the free agent route, they are going to be paying top dollar for 3rd and 4th tier players forever.

    Even when the Knicks were good, what top tier free agent were they able to sign? Not Shaq, not Miller, not Webber. They were relegated to the Chris Childs and Clarence Weatherspoons of the league.

    The one competitive advantage the Knicks have is that NY is a big city and therefore a lot of people are born there and grow up there. So if a top tier player decides to “come home” a la LeBron, they can play that card. But who is out there, wallowing in an unhappy situation, willing to forego $40,000,000 due to homesickness? (The last guy was Carmelo, but he didn’t forego much).

    assuming we can’t get Durant or perhaps whiteside/horford/batum, we need to dedicate the offseason making an offer for Boban that the Spurs can’t match. if we had boban and kp on the same team, would it even matter how many games we won? every knick game would be the most fun thing you’d ever done. the knicks would play at halftime of the 2017 superbowl. we could spend another year coming up with horrible nicknames like two tall clones. make it happen phil.

    Utah is due to get Alec Burks back from injury after the all-star break. He’s a younger, more versatile, more useful version of Afflalo.

    I thought he was out for the year. Well that changes things maybe unless they just want a “wily” vet who never passes anymore. Plus, they need someone who has so much playoff experience to get them that bucket in the post when the game slows down and the pressure builds. I am running out of other cliche’ reasoning. 🙂

    Wow, so Beal and Barnes can both make up to $21m this summer that’s crazy. Does Fournier have the same max number as Beal and Barnes and what are the max numbers for 2nd rd picks Clarkson and Crabbe?

    As much as I like Beal(Gator) I do not see why people value him over Fournier. They seem like very similar players.

    Clyde called me to wish me a happy birthday a few months ago so he always has it going in my eyes!

    If we can eke out a win today all might not be lost this season because I’ll be traveling again, allowing our team to start another winning streak.

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