Knicks Morning News (2016.01.20)

  • [New York Daily News] Kristaps Porzingis listed as questionable for Knicks – Jazz (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:28:57 GMT)

    Kristaps Porzingis is listed as questionable for Wednesday’s game against the Utah Jazz due to a bruised right foot, the Knicks announced.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Defeat Nuggets for Fifth Straight Win (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 06:39:38 GMT)

    Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook each had a double-double, while Enes Kanter scored a season-high 25 points and grabbed eight rebounds, as the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Denver Nuggets 110-104.

  • [New York Times] Davis Scores 35; Pelicans Beat Timberwolves but Lose Gordon (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 06:03:31 GMT)

    Anthony Davis and the New Orleans Pelicans found a way to win convincingly despite an early 17-point hole.

  • [New York Times] Durant, Westbrook Lead Thunder Over Nuggets 110-104 (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:57:30 GMT)

    While Oklahoma City struggled from beyond the arc Tuesday night, it did enough on the boards to outlast the Denver Nuggets.

  • [New York Times] Middleton Boosts Bucks Past Heat (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:27:31 GMT)

    Milwaukee’s Khris Middleton scored 22 points — 20 more than Dwyane Wade — in the Bucks’ 91-79 victory over Miami on Tuesday at AmericanAirlines Arena.

  • [New York Times] Ellis, George Lead Pacers Past Suns 97-94 (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:27:31 GMT)

    Monta Ellis scored 20 points, Paul George had 19 and the Indiana Pacers beat the Phoenix Suns 97-94 on Tuesday night to end a three-game losing streak.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Bucks Subdue the Heat (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:23:18 GMT)

    Khris Middleton scored 22 points, Greg Monroe added 15, and visiting Milwaukee clamped down defensively on short-handed Miami.

  • [New York Times] Bucks Take Advantage of Short-Handed Heat, Top Miami 91-79 (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:40:06 GMT)

    Perhaps Dwyane Wade taught Khris Middleton too well last summer.

  • [New York Times] Evans Listed Back in Lineup for Pelicans vs Wolves (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:12:28 GMT)

    Tyreke Evans has been listed as a starter for New Orleans’ game Tuesday night against Minnesota after sitting out the Pelicans’ loss at Memphis on Monday night with right knee soreness.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers Prove No Match Against the Best (Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:07:32 GMT)

    After Cleveland was overwhelmed by Golden State on Monday night, Coach David Blatt addressed problems surrounding his team — some new, some recurring.

  • 19 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.01.20)”

    The article misses the point a bit. Of course the starting 2 needs will shoot better in wins.

    Whether it’s Melo or AA you can’t rely on people hitting bad off balance shots.

    1. Meh is what you could reasonably expect from Arron Afflalo.

    2. Meh is a huge improvement over Tim Hardaway Jr, who played the most minutes at the 2 for the Knicks last season

    Meh is also a massive improvement over not just Tim who might not even be an NBA player anymore but also JR and Shump who are potentially more inconsistent.

    If Phil can get into the late 1st/early 2nd in the draft, does anyone think Smith-Rivera might be a good pick? He’s played a ton of PG minutes in Georgetown’s Princeton style offense, and he’s big and athletic enough to cover 1’s and 2’s.

    “If Phil can get into the late 1st/early 2nd in the draft,”
    A lot of people seem to think that Hernangomez would have been a late lottery pick if he were in the 2016 draft (and willing to commit to coming to the NBA right away). What if some team is willing to trade a pick in the 10-20 range in this year’s draft for the rights to Willy H — should Phil do it?

    @7 I would suppose that situation would be determined by what the deal on the table is. But having Willie H come over would theoretically replace the Seraphin/Amundson role..Hopefully neither of which which will be back right?

    I have no idea what Willie’s trade value is, especially since he was barely playing when last I checked. But we need backcourt and wing help so desperately, and will still have Lopez, Porzingis, O’Quinn, and Melo under contract going into next season, that I’d be fine trading him for a pick that could get us a guard who can penetrate and defend.

    Thank God we’ve moved on from the Zinger foot apocalypse. I know we’re Knicks fans and tend to always expect the worst, but jeez, not all very tall guys have career ending foot issues.

    Meanwhile, a big night in the NBA for teams the Knicks are vying with for playoff spots:

    Miami @ Wash.

    So taking care of business tonight is critical, to say the least

    And, according to Forbes, the Knicks are the most valuable team in the league at $3 billion, so James Dolan gets to keep laughing all the way to the bank…

    Well, that’s according to Forbes. Maybe we can get Jimmy to test the market and find out fer sure…

    There’s been so much talk of foot problems in seven footers recently and, this being a statistically inclined website and all, it’s made me wonder how much of a role selection bias plays into our idea that foot problems are potentially more ruinous for a 7 footer.

    Yes, we know about Embiid and remember Walton, Eaton, Yao. But is the common denominator there really height or weight? And what’s the cutoff that makes it more likely to be ruinous? We don’t freak out every time a 6’9″ player hurts his foot, so what is so detrimental about 3-5 extra inches?

    I watched Patrick Ewing for a long time, and he never had anything wrong with his feet. Neither did Shaq. Was Tim Duncan saved because he is 6’11” instead of 7’0″? And as JK47 pointed out yesterday, Kareem was 7’2″ and played 57,000+ minutes.

    Maybe there really is something to it, but right now it seems like a boogey man and I’m not giving it any significant thought.

    I’d still keep him out for precautionary reasons, though. Big picture and all.

    You know, I think Afflalo has the potential to be a very good scorer for the Knicks, particularly as a second or third option. He also has shown in late game action he can hit some very tough shots.
    But his defense is sub par. His defensive box plus/minus is -2.2 below league average points per 100 possessions with an overall of -1.5.
    Add to that he gets virtually no steals or blocks and it paints a someone cloudy picture.
    He rebounds adequately, mostly defensive boards, since he’s mostly a mid- to long-range shooter.
    His 2 pt shooting % is fantastic at .510, especially since most of his shots are mid-range jumpers, but his 3 pt shooting is at the league average. He ranks 137th in the league in TS%. By comparison Melo is ranked 193 and KP 205.
    Lance Thomas, BTW, is ranks 46th, and Calderon is 35th. Honestly, both guys need more shots.

    What I don’t like about Afflalo is he only gets 2 assists/36. That’s below his career average of 2.5 on a triangle offense, which seems unforgivable for a 2 guard. If there is a guy prone to hero ball and one on one ball stoppage, it’s Afflalo.

    Which leads us to all the other 7’3? guys that have played in the NBA. You can LoL all the sample sizes and cherry picked injuries of the Silver study you’d like, but the fact is, of the 24 players that have ever played in the league over the height of 7’2?, only 8 managed to play into their 30s (and Sampson was actually one of them).

    Talk about selection bias…. The reason most 7’3″ guys never played into their 30’s…. most of them sucked! Of the 25 + 7’3″ guys in NBA history:

    Slavko Vranes…. 1 game
    Sim Buhular…..3 games (currently playing as a rookie)
    Pavel Podkolzin….. 6 games
    Priest Lauderdale…. 74 games
    Peter Ramos….. 6 games
    Keith Closs…..130 games (alcohol ended his NBA career)
    Swede Halbrook….143 games (Off-court issues cut short both Halbrook’s college and professional careers. He would reportedly go missing for days, sometimes weeks at a time without explanation.[3] Oregon State coach Gill was forced to cut him from the team after only two seasons for skipping class so often. Nationals coach Hannum is quoted to have said that “He could have had a worthwhile career if he had taken care of himself. During his second season, he disappeared for a week and we sent the police out to look for him. But they couldn’t find a 7-footer! He came back on his own but he never would tell me where he had been.” [3]) Wiki

    Aleksander Radojevic…..15 games
    Ha Seung Jin…..46 games
    Hasheem Thabeet …..224 game (just sucked)
    Walter Tavaris …. rookie this year
    Zinger…. rookie this year
    Tibor Pleib….. rookie this year

    So… in conclusion….. of the 25 big guys all time: 4 are rookies and 11 sucked at basketball. Of the other 10…8 played into their 30……

    I think there is logic to the Sampson case because the question on the table seems to be about whether the team should be conservative with KP’s minutes or not. Sampson played 2600 minutes his rookie year, and over 3000 his second year (he averaged 38 mins per game and played all 82 games). He injured his knee early in his third season and said: “I should have been out for a year but came back after eight weeks because I wanted to play the game of basketball and the sport that I love. I probably came back a little too early, but we had a chance to go back to The Finals with the team we had, and I wanted to go back with my teammates.” So, from one tall guy to another, he’d probably recommend KP limit those minutes early in his career. Especially since Sampson, being a natural perimeter player, probably sees a lot of his own potential in Porzingis right now.

    And of course, Sampson was perfectly healthy prior to buckling his right knee in this totally freak injury vs the Celtics:

    Watch at the 1:10 mark….

    By his own admission, he came back way to soon and was never the same. This is the mistake Jeremy Lin was too smart to make and he has had a relatively healthy career after his cartilage tear.

    The average retirement age in the NBA is under 30 anyway (I tried linking to the site I got the number from but the post doesn’t show up, if you have any questions you can google it. There’s a blog post that goes into avg. NBA career length and retirement age.

    Comments are closed.