Knicks Morning News (2015.11.27)

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  • 22 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.11.27)”

    Ouch, it hurts to see Porzingis compared to Sullinger, Eddie Griffin and Raef LaFrentz (who, to be honest, was quite good in his early career).

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2sw3t1

    Yeah, Farfa, the LaFrentz comparison is troubling, especially considering the facts that their games are eerily similar. Injury derailed LaFrentz more than anything else. KP seems to have something special between the ears that Raef didn’t. He’s also much longer.

    Yeah, yeah, I was tongue-in-cheek.

    I went back to read the draft night thread to see what the heck did I write at the time and oh god was I wrong (and drunk). But even I had recognized the main strength of KP: his brain. I think he has a real chance of becoming a top-10 player someday, but not because of his skills only. He wants to learn, and it shows. He had trouble fouling, now he recorded 15 blocks in three games fouling just six times total.

    The next thing he really needs to improve is to be more assertive when he shoots: he tends to rush a lot of his shots, but what the heck, he’s 7’3″, who’s gonna block him 15 feet from the hoop?

    I really think someone has to ask himself if Hinkie is really doing a good job (not related to the Okafor incident, but to the 0-16 start – and counting). Philadelphia is a sorry excuse of a team, and it’s going to be harder every year to #trusttheprocess. Is Jerami Grant improving? Is Robert Covington? Why can’t they find a decent two way PG, like, ever?

    I really think someone has to ask himself if Hinkie is really doing a good job (not related to the Okafor incident, but to the 0-16 start – and counting). Philadelphia is a sorry excuse of a team, and it’s going to be harder every year to #trusttheprocess. Is Jerami Grant improving? Is Robert Covington? Why can’t they find a decent two way PG, like, ever?

    It’s hard to get the youth engaged when playing so bad. They are going for their 3rd year of total sucktitude and it doesnt seem it will end this year. How do you motivate the players?

    If at least they tried to play well, they would learn a system, trust each other, … But right now, it is everyone on their own. Anyone could be traded next day. Adding some scrappy veterans might hurt your draft position, but they would not look totally dysfunctional, and may be better for the long run.

    Porzingis = Raef La Frentz ????

    Was yesterday Thanksgiving or April fools ?

    Per 36 Careers Pts Boards Blks

    La Frentz 14.1 8.5 2.3

    Unicorn 17.6 11.9 2.4

    Derrick Coleman 17.9 10.1 1.5

    Kev McHale 20.7 8.5 2.0

    The Unicorn thus far is doing some pretty historic shit!

    I don’t think the 6ers have a player who you could argue has top 5 player potential. Okafor’s young enough that he might develop a 15 footer or something and he might become a pretty good defender, but he’s always going to be limited by the fact that he’s not athletic enough to be a legitimate impact player on defense, a serious problem if you’re a center, and he’ll probably never shoot any better from outside the paint than like Robin Lopez, making it hard for him to be an effective power forward unless he’s next to a stretch 5 like Porzingis.

    I like Noel a lot, but he seems destined for a Dikembe Mutombo-type career, a DPOY level force on defense, but totally forgettable on the offensive end.

    And after that, who are the promising young players that Hinkie should be worrying about?

    Compare Philly to Minnesota, where you have *two* guys who many would consider on a track to be superstars, plus lots of peripheral young players like Shabazz Muhammed and Gorgui Dieng.

    Compare Philly to Orlando, where you have a whole fleet of good young prospects — Gordon, Hezonja, Fournier, Payton.

    There’s enough on those two teams where if things go well, you might end up with a great team. It’s worth it to start trying to win and build culture for those teams.

    If next year, after Philly adds two more top level talents, Hinkie is still using his cap space to give other teams pay day loans, and he’s still filling the end of the roster with ALL undrafted young players, I will start to worry.

    @bobneptune: So you’re saying you didn’t bother to read the article?

    @max fisher-cohen: At least part of the problem in Philly is that Embiid can’t stay healthy and Saric is still overseas. That’s two high picks that haven’t played a minute of NBA basketball and that’s skewing things.

    At least part of the problem in Philly is that Embiid can’t stay healthy and Saric is still overseas. That’s two high picks that haven’t played a minute of NBA basketball and that’s skewing things.

    Indeed, but they could play with a real PG and watch their kids grow. Instead, it seems that Noel is regressing; him and Okafor arent complementing well, and part of the fault may be the lack of outside shooting.

    I understand the strategy, but filling all the team with D-Leaguers is overkill. They could very well have brought some nice players along, still have a lottery pick this year and enjoy their Lakers pick the next one. Why didnt they bid for the Danny Greens, Khris Middletons, Corey Josephs … of the world? Yes, their teams could match; but they wouldnt have lost anything trying.

    The Jazz are another interesting case.

    They are 7-7 in the West and their older player is 28 and expiring after this season.

    After Millsap left, they had a couple of bad season but didn’t really tank.

    No one really stands out as future Top-10, but they have a lot of trading chips.

    Sucks for them that no one wants to live there.

    I think it is fair at the very least to say that the Sixers could easily have gotten a veteran to mentor the kids while still, in general, sucking. The whole “intentionally lose” approach would still occur, but just with hopefully someone to provide mentorship to these young players. The T-Wolves lost a lot of games but still had KG around.

    Next year is the big one for Hinkie. If all goes well he’ll have Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric, his own 2016 pick, and LA’s 2016 pick. That’s potentially a lot of mid to high-end talent. They still won’t win a lot because they’ll all be so young, but the cupboard could suddenly look a lot fuller and Hinkie will start getting praised.

    Of course, Embiid could be a bust, Saric could stay in Europe, and LA’s pick could fall into the Top 3 and not revert to Philly. Big swing year.

    6ers do have Carl Landry although he’s hurt now (possibly “hurt”).

    I agree though that giving a roster slot or two to a vet would have been smart. Worth noting that Hinkie brought in Mbah a Moute to be a mentor for Embiid. Mbah a Moute was also born in Cameroon and basically discovered Embiid and helped him get a basketball scholarship, so there was def some thought that went into pairing Mbah a Moute with Embiid.

    Okay, my short term solution for the 2nd unit woes. It won’t happen, but bring Porzingis off the bench. Make him the 6th man who still gets crunch time minutes.

    Hold your applause. Here’s why.

    Lopez seems to start most games well, esp. if he gets lots of early touches. So, let him get his early touches. You’ve got that, plus Melo, Afflalo, and Calderon all as “shooters” in the first unit. Start OQ with them, and let him do what he does best: set screens, get defensive rebounds, and hack the bejeezus out of penetrating guards. Let him use those fouls b/c KP6 is coming in sooner, rather than later, anyways.

    Porzingis can come in around 6-8 minutes into the game. He gives the 2nd unit a bonafide threat that opponents have to defend, adds a LONG shotblocker and rebounder to the group, and a nice pick and roll partner that Grant desperately needs.

    The 2nd unit also should get more D-Will. LET THEM RUN. With KP out there blocking some shots and grabbing d-rebounds, they might be able to get back to what they do best. Amundson, Seraphin, and Vujacic go back to spot duty where they belong. The more they play, the more exposed they become. S & V look pretty much useless on D.

    KP6 still gets 10-12 minutes in the first half (some with the starters), and can play plenty in the 2nd half (18-20 minutes), esp. in crunch time.

    @17

    So we should bring our second-best player off the bench because the bench isn’t performing well?

    @18. I’m not saying to cut his minutes. Just balance the lineups a bit. The 2nd unit lacks a shotblocker and serious pick and roll partner for Grant. KP can still get “second-best player” minutes.

    @11,

    Of course I didn’t read an article about the awful 76’ers. I wasn’t commenting about that, but quite clearly commenting on comparable with The Unicorn and mentioning La Frentz as if they are somehow comparable.

    The Unicorn is closer to a great offensive player like Coleman or Mc Hale rather than la Frenz on others mentioned in the post.

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