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Friday, April 26, 2019

Knicks Morning News (2019.04.16)

  • [NYPost] This will take Mitchell Robinson’s game to a scary level
    (Monday, April 15, 2019 9:57:05 PM)

    Knicks center Mitchell Robinson dazzled the coaching staff with his knack for blocking 3-point shots during his rookie season. Among all of the rookie shot-blocking and field-goal percentage records he set, Robinson also led the NBA with 24 blocked 3-pointers. Now the goal for 2019-20 is for Robinson to launch his own 3-point shots. Robinson…

  • [NYPost] Zion Williamson declares for NBA draft as Knicks waiting game begins
    (Monday, April 15, 2019 3:52:03 PM)

    For months, it had been considered just as many of his terrific highlights — a slam dunk without question — and on Monday evening, Zion Williamson finally made the obvious official. The Duke freshman phenom, whose freakish athleticism, scintillating dunks and venerable personality starred the center of the college basketball season, announced on Instagram his…

  • [NYTimes] 76ers 145, Nets 123 | Series tied, 1-1: N.B.A. Playoffs: Philadelphia Steamrolls Its Way to a Game 2 Win Over the Nets
    (Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:23:37 AM)

    A record-tying 51-point third quarter evens the first-round playoff series at a game apiece. And just like that, no one was booing in Philadelphia.

  • [NYTimes] John MacLeod, a Winning Coach for the Suns, Is Dead at 81
    (Monday, April 15, 2019 11:42:40 PM)

    MacLeod led Phoenix to the 1976 championship series against the Celtics, which included one of the most memorable playoff games in N.B.A. history.

  • [SNY Knicks] Zion Williamson officially declares for NBA draft
    (Monday, April 15, 2019 5:55:54 PM)

    Zion Williamson, who is projected to be the No. 1 pick in June, announced he would declare for the NBA draft on Monday, less than a month before the lottery will take place.

  • [SNY Knicks] Allonzo Trier rubbed Knicks veterans wrong way with play: report
    (Monday, April 15, 2019 9:42:27 AM)

    Allonzo Trier was a bright spot for the Knicks on the surface, but veteran teammates reportedly did not like his one-on-one style.

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    141 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2019.04.16)

    1. Hubert

      “I want to shoot 3s next year,’’ Robinson said after the Knicks’ season finale last week. “That’s not the No. 1 focus [but] really to get stronger, work on my post moves. And then when it gets close to summer league [in July], start bringing in that jump shot.’’

      He should be hooked up to an electric current that sends painful shockwaves through his body every time he thinks these things.

      And also, way to go, Silky.

    2. thenoblefacehumper

      I mean, if he can add a half-decent 3PT shot to his game I don’t see why that would be a bad thing. What we want to avoid is him taking multiple per game at 28% or whatever, but him looking to expand his game shouldn’t be viewed unfavorably.

      I also find it hilarious that he plans on doing so much wide mouth bass fishing with Lance Thomas.

    3. chriskZIPCODE

      congrats Silky!!!

      I’m sure with your doctorate you will be the favorite at the next haters ball

    4. Owen

      Yeah Mitch, stay in your lane for another year.

      It appears I turned the Clippers game off too early. Solid line for Montrezl. Keys to the game, not missing any shots.

    5. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      I think he absolutely has to add something to his offensive game eventually if he wants to be a key offensive player on a top team because some teams are going to take away most of the lobs and offensive rebounds. He should probably start by getting stronger and improving his footwork around the basket so he can post up when he has a mismatch. Getting stronger will help him defend and rebound better anyway.

      I don’t mind him shooting 3s once it’s enough of a weapon to actually add value, but I don’t see that happening next year. So I’d way rather keep him around the basket where he get rebounds and score inside on his athleticism.

    6. Hubert

      3s are fine if he’s good at it but he also said post moves and jump shot. It sounds like one of the bad commentors from the old Tyson Chandler threads got in his head.

      And also it this seems to be coming from his agent. Per the article, he changed agents 4 times before choosing his current one, an LA sportswriter/agent who seems to want to turn Mitchell in Anthony Davis, even if that’s not who he is.

    7. bobneptune

      You fellas don’t remember Patrick Ewing Ehhh…. When he was 20-21 at Georgetown he had zero game away from the basket and was an elite defender/shot blocker, but every off season he added to his offensive game to where he became an excellent outside shooter within 20′.

      Mitch should endeavor to improve all aspects of his game, just leave the 15 to 23 footers out of the mix. If he can make himself a good 3 ball shooter all the better. No need to break it out til he becomes good at it, but this guy improved his FT shooting virtually 25% in 2 months. He seems like he will work at his craft.

      The only thing we don’t need is for him to get injured losing a few fingers “hillbilly hand fishing” in the bayou with Lance or chopping his foot off with an ax while pulling out a stump!!!

    8. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      It’s great that he wants to work on his game, but 4 agents and several trainers in just a year or so… Not a good sign. And he sounds really unfocused; improving your body is no minor thing in three months, but also post moves and also a 3-ball? Even if he’s a savant, that’s too much for one off-season.

      I mean, I wish T-1000 had showed similar interest in broadening his game over the years, but he was a very, very effective player without doing so. I’m all for Mitch being a combo of Chandler and Amar’e, but mastering one area first is a better strategy than doing it all at once.

    9. bobneptune

      Last night’s Warrior game was a tale told by an idiot….

      The were yucking it up in the third quarter acting like it was a pick-up game on a Saturday morning at the Y. If they keep screwing around and get one more untimely injury they could find themselves on the outside looking in or collapse internally.

      Winning it all even with the best team isn’t easy. There needs to be focus. This is part of the greatness of Jordan and what separates him from the imposters. You can’t just roll the balls out there and win on reputation.

      FWIW… Montrezl Harrell has turned himself into a hell of a player on a great contract kind of a young Charles Oakley on steroids. I’d like to be his agent next year…..

    10. The Glass Half Rebuilt

      If we get Kyrie and KD there will be no time for Mitchell Robinson to post up. I will say that he’s fluid enough that he wouldn’t look like a joke doing it, but I think that’s much ado about nothing.

    11. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      The only thing we don’t need is for him to get injured losing a few fingers “hillbilly hand fishing” in the bayou with Lance or chopping his foot off with an ax while pulling out a stump!!!

      I heard he’s going to be a special guest on Swamp People and is going to help Troy fill tags this year.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajACU-lsnFc

    12. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      The Clippers are so well managed and coached it’s almost a miracle they are positioned so well for the long term right now. I used to think Doc was a little overrated but either I was wrong or he got better.

    13. Hubert

      I’d like to be his agent next year…..

      If not, just be patient. Eventually you’ll get your turn to be Mitch’s.

    14. d-mar

      Saw some Twitter post that said when Patrick Beverly guarded KD, Curry, Klay and Draymond they were a combined 2-7 (average shot attempt 20 feet) with 1 assist and 5 turnovers.

      The guy is a total defensive nightmare for opposing teams.

    15. Hubert

      Bobneptune, I think when the warriors lose this year (my money, literally, is on the Bucks or Raptors, and some on Houston bc the odds were great) it will be like when the Pistons beat that Lakers team that had old Malone and Payton. It will seem so obvious in retrospect that there were cracks, but we just didn’t pay attention to them bc their stars are usually so damn sublime.

    16. Bruno Almeida

      I think Rivers definitely improved as a coach when the Clippers took him off the GM duties to focus solely on coaching. The way the Clippers young pieces play is impressive, SGA, Shamet and Harrell all have had impressive moments, Zubac too in the regular season, and the lineup with Harrell at center and Gallo at the 4, with SGA, Williams and Shamet is very dangerous, they were phenomenal in the 2nd half last night.

      If the Clippers do add Kawhi or anyone of that caliber, they would be real contenders next season for sure.

    17. DRed

      The were yucking it up in the third quarter acting like it was a pick-up game on a Saturday morning at the Y. If they keep screwing around and get one more untimely injury they could find themselves on the outside looking in or collapse internally.

      They were up 31 with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Everyone is going to be yukking it up in that situation. I wonder if the Cousins injury will hurt them at all-are they going to play Bogut more now? He’s really terrible on offense.

    18. Mike Honcho

      If MitchRob can hit the three at a good rate (let’s say he peaks at 38% after a few years of practice), doesn’t he become a better version of what we wished KP would be? As long as he’s not chucking up garbage long twos, I don’t really see an issue with it. He’s already so good at what he does now that adding something to his game might be better than going for diminishing returns on his efficiency at the rim.

    19. Grocer

      Get stronger, work on some post moves, work on his shot, in that order. Seems like a reasonable plan to me. It’s not like he can spend every minute on weights. It’d be handy if he had some shit he could do from 5-6 feet out instead of just inside 3 feet.

      Look, in college Davis averaged more blocks per game than he made 3’s all year. Same story his first few years in the NBA, and now he’s decent from 3. They’re obviously not the same player but if that’s Mitch’s model I don’t really see a problem. Currently for 90% of offensive possessions Mitch isn’t involved at all. Where’s the red flag?

    20. ClashFan

      I never liked Cousins’ act, but kinda feel sorry for him if he has a torn quad. On the bright side, maybe we can scratch him off the list of guys the Knicks might sign to a big deal.

    21. Grocer

      If MitchRob can hit the three at a good rate (let’s say he peaks at 38% after a few years of practice), doesn’t he become a better version of what we wished KP would be? As long as he’s not chucking up garbage long twos, I don’t really see an issue with it. He’s already so good at what he does now that adding something to his game might be better than going for diminishing returns on his efficiency at the rim.

      Hell, if he gets up to 34% on open threes he’ll still draw defenders out to the perimeter, opening up the paint. That’s a good point about diminishing returns – there’s no low hanging fruit left at the rim for him. Putting some work in on the things that will get him to the rim with the ball is a good move.

    22. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Saw some Twitter post that said when Patrick Beverly guarded KD, Curry, Klay and Draymond they were a combined 2-7 (average shot attempt 20 feet) with 1 assist and 5 turnovers.

      That’s the dream scenario for Frank. He’s had games like that against the best offensive players in the league. He can also switch multiple positions, but he has to focus on it and bring that same energy every night. Then he has to add a 3 pointer. Not saying it will happen, but he has time. Beverly didn’t even make the NBA until he was 24.

    23. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      There’s something extra pleasant for me about the Warriors getting all cocky and then losing.

    24. swiftandabundant

      I mean I know The Warriors will win this series (right?) but GD that was a game last night and I gotta say…I’m happy for The Clippers. They are a FUN team to watch and the way they have positioned themselves post CP3/Blake/Deandre is very impressive. They make a series out of this they are definitely going to be a destination this summer, which kind of sucks for us but at the same time making the Warriors vulnerable this early in the playoffs makes it more likely KD leaves.

    25. swiftandabundant

      Its also fun, living out in LA, to see up close The Lakers implosion and The Clippers rise. Like even during the CP3 years this was still a Lakers town bc they were living off the Kobe era fumes. And they were all so cocky this summer when they got Lebron. But now, things are all shook up in this town! Its great!

    26. Hubert

      Where’s the red flag?

      A young kid whose early career is full of instances where acting on bad advice from people around him has set him back is currently taking instructions from an LA sports writer who sees him as his meal ticket.

      There’s nothing wrong with expanding your game, if you can. His game, as currently constituted, though, seems perfect to me.

    27. thenoblefacehumper

      Mitch’s situation is pretty unique and I can’t blame him for being naturally suspicious of agents and other decision makers at this point. He committed to Western Kentucky only to see them fire his godfather. He was told he had a first round promise from the Lakers only to see them draft Mo Wagner. He signed a contract that, in hindsight, he would’ve blown away if he went with the K.J. McDaniels approach. Through it all, he became one of the most productive rookies we’ve had in a long time and he still doesn’t get the recognition that his teammate Kevin Knox, who is one of the least productive rookies we’ve had since 2017, gets.

      I wouldn’t worry about it as a character issue unless we hear things that are legitimately worrying.

      I also don’t care much about him saying he’ll add a 3PT shot, post game, etc. Players say this kind of stuff every offseason and then largely come back doing the same things. If he starts doing things that are causing him to be less productive hopefully the coaching staff jumps on it, but I don’t see it as much of a concern.

    28. Grocer

      A young kid whose early career is full of instances where acting on bad advice from people around him has set him back is currently taking instructions from an LA sports writer who sees him as his meal ticket.

      I guess but:

      He committed to Western Kentucky only to see them fire his godfather. He was told he had a first round promise from the Lakers only to see them draft Mo Wagner. He signed a contract that, in hindsight, he would’ve blown away if he went with the K.J. McDaniels approach.

      Skipping college was more about not being willing to stay at WKU in the aftermath of that shit than anything else. It’s not like he’d have been able to play somewhere else that year, college transfers get real fucked up. And then he had a series of events that did not turn out great for him that were the result of his various agents, for which he moved on from them. And we have no idea why he parted ways with Davis’ trainer, but per the article it doesn’t seem acrimonious. And “taking instructions”? The man has demonstrated agency on multiple occasions. Why the fuck would you think he’s following someone else’s blueprint as opposed to doing what he wants to do?

      His game, as currently constituted, though, seems perfect to me.

      What Mitch is good at, he is transcendent at. But come on. There’s a boat load of shit he’s terrible at which he’d benefit from having some level of skill at. Right now he scores on oops and whenever he gets the ball right under the basket. If he can add, for example, a post game from 6-7 feet out (from where he normally just passes the ball off) at 60% efficiency that’d be a good thing. Or maybe if he gets comfortable out there he can learn to setup other guys from that spot. We can’t just put him under glass and keep him safe forever. We have to let our baby boy grow.

    29. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I never liked Cousins’ act, but kinda feel sorry for him if he has a torn quad. On the bright side, maybe we can scratch him off the list of guys the Knicks might sign to a big deal.

      Now we need Cam Reddish to play poorly at 3-on-3.

    30. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      The good news about Robinson’s contract (besides for the Knicks) is that he seems to be getting quite a few money making opportunities off the court in NY. So if he feels like he got screwed, he’s less likely to be angry about it.

    31. Bruno Almeida

      I don’t mind it too much either, Mitch is saying he’s willing to work on his game and that’s a good sign overall. As long as he doesn’t go Drummond or Howard and starts trying to play like he’s prime Shaq on the post, it’s gonna be fine, and him adding a little versatility will be good if it works.

      If he can shoot 3s at a decent rate and keep his free throws around 70-75%, he’s a superstar. It’s not like practicing threes and post moves will make him forget his athleticism and instincts around the basket. His current skill set is based on his crazy athleticism and instincts, so it’s not like he has to practice being tall and jumping really high.

      I’m more worried about him getting a lot stronger and losing his bounce a bit, but that can be managed with smart training.

    32. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Now we need Cam Reddish to play poorly at 3-on-3.

      I’d prefer he not even show up so they can’t even misread what they are seeing. :-)

    33. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      doesn’t he become a better version of what we wished KP would be?

      He already is.

      I also don’t care much about him saying he’ll add a 3PT shot, post game, etc. Players say this kind of stuff every offseason and then largely come back doing the same things. If he starts doing things that are causing him to be less productive hopefully the coaching staff jumps on it, but I don’t see it as much of a concern.

      Yes, but the smart players literally say the same thing every year: this summer I’m going to add [one thing]. Whether it’s a post-up game, a 3-ball, adding strength and stamina, the great ones focus on one thing, because they know doing all things means they won’t achieve enough mastery of the one thing to put any of it into use. That’s why the lesser players “largely come back doing the same things.”

      I’m not saying that’s guaranteed for Mitch; he has certainly seemed prodigious in how easily he’s picked up key elements to the game. But most of the time, that lack of focus results in lack of improvement. And indeed, there are a lot of holes in his game that need work…it’s just that launching the 3 isn’t one of them. Learning to box out, improving strength and stamina, reading the offenses more quickly, working on his slip and roll – those are more crucial to his current game than most of the shit he’s talking about.

      None of you see KP in those comments? After his early surprising success, he decided he needed to work on his crossover and other low-efficiency mid-range shit, which is the main reason many people here don’t consider him star-level material. What if all he did was work on his body (to prevent it from breaking down, to increase his stamina, to stabilize his knees, for instance!), blocking out, and his 3-point accuracy? He would have taken his strengths and maximized them while covering over some of the more problematic holes in his game.

    34. Ntilakilla

      Wow, Bernie was amazing in last night’s Fox townhall. Immediately, both Trump and Clinton shill David Brock went on the attack. It’s true what Jonathan Swift said, “When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.”

    35. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      which is the main reason many people here don’t consider him star-level material

      I guess I should acknowledge that that low-efficiency crap is also why many NOT here do believe he’s star-level material. They’re wrong, though. It’s his rim-protection and 3-ball. If he learns to box out and rebound just a little better, and if his coach persuades him to stop the mid-range BS, then he’ll add a lot more wins.

    36. Hubert

      As long by “jump shots” he means “the occasional 3PA” and not “jumpers from the top of the key”, it’s fine. The “post game” bit just made me think of Dwight Howard wanting to take bad shots instead of rolling to the rim. But it’s just an article and we see hundreds like them every summer.

      I think he has a 98% chance of becoming Clint Capela or better, which is a damn fine player. I’d rather see him focus on that than the 25% chance he becomes the next Anthony Davis. But until I see him taking stupid shots in a game, I’m not going to worry about it.

    37. Hubert

      Bernie’s got more Ignatius Reilly in him than he does true genius. He knows exactly how to fix everything, if only the corrupt and small-minded fools in charge would just start listening to him.

    38. Mike Honcho

      @36 My dude are you physically incapable of not shoehorning politics into a stats-based basketball blog?

    39. wetbandit

      I guess I’m too much of a ‘capitalist’ to see what Bernie does other than spout wealth redistribution nonsense. I thought capitalism was a good thing, a backbone to this country, and the most important reason we’re living in unarguably the best society ever…

      I’m left-leaning, but God I hate all these high-profile Democrats, from Hillary to Bernie to AOC. Not to say that Trump et al aren’t assholes, but I’m focusing on the left here.

    40. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Wow, Bernie was amazing in last night’s Fox townhall. Immediately, both Trump and Clinton shill David Brock went on the attack. It’s true what Jonathan Swift said, “When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.”

      Do you ever stop?

    41. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      IMO, being a low usage high efficiency player that rebounds, block shots, and defends well makes you an all-star caliber player.

      Adding an above average post game, 3 pointer, and short jumper (even if it reduces your overall efficiency from its current level) makes you a two-way superstar.

      Sometimes the defense is going to win the possession. When it does, someone is going to have to take something other than a dunk, layup, free throw, or corner 3. If you are the guy that can get it done at above average levels for those types of shots you are adding value even if it hurts your personal efficiency stats.

      You don’t want Dirk shooting mid range shots by choice, but when you have Dirk knocking them down at a 47% clip and getting fouled some of the time when the defense locks down you have a huge advantage over teams with players that are forced to shoot those at a 40% clip or less.

      What you don’t want is guys forcing up mid range shots, off balanced shots, shots against double teams etc.. when there’s still time on the clock to create something better. That’s what KP was doing last year too often. But it’s also why you could see him learning, changing his shot distribution, and improving his overall efficiency without even improving his shot. If he improves his shot too, he’s big time.

    42. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I guess I’m too much of a ‘capitalist’ to see what Bernie does other than spout wealth redistribution nonsense. I thought capitalism was a good thing, a backbone to this country, and the most important reason we’re living in unarguably the best society ever…

      I really don’t want to get into this, but the argument that “capitalism” and “socialism” are mutually exclusive is not only egregiously wrong, but patently absurd. We do not live in a “pure capitalist” economy. It is a mixed economy.

      I believe you to be smarter and better informed than this.

    43. Grocer

      Learning to box out, improving strength and stamina, reading the offenses more quickly, working on his slip and roll – those are more crucial to his current game than most of the shit he’s talking about.

      Since he said three things, improving strength, working on post game, working on his shot, two thirds of what he said is exactly what you are wanting him to work on. You’re reading too much into this. One, I don’t really think any player spends the entire off-season just working on a single skill. All he’s got on his schedule are basketball and some probable fishing trip that’s maybe happening. He can fit in working on his shot in-between weights and post moves. Two, and most important, there are all kinds of existing problems with the Knicks to worry about, you don’t need to invent shit about Mitch to worry about. If he fucks up his summer then we’ve got all next season open for hand-wringing. Let’s take this precious time to fret about the draft. All worries in their proper time.

    44. The Infamous Cdiggy

      @27 – living out here in LA now as well, I don’t ever think it’ll not be a Laker town. Too much history and prestige, too many name players that were the best of the best in their respective eras, if not all-time.

      What I think it would take to ever reverse that, if at all possible?
      1. The Lakers would have to turn into a past-Clipper/21st century Knicks dumpster-fire for a solid decade.
      2. The Clips need to acquire a top-5 player that is or can be a household name. Maybe two.
      3. The Clips Get real lucky in a future draft to nab a transcendent player.
      4. (if the first three fall into place) The Clips would have to have a 70’s Steelers or an 80’s Lakers/Celtic type run (3, 4, or 5 rings in 10 years).

    45. geo

      when I first saw mitch play for us I was thinking a good hopeful comparison would be deandre…

      then, I started to think gobert…capela though might be an even better outcome…

      his improvement during the year was pretty stunning – no doubt assisted by his very average foot size :)

      I’m pretty sure he will improve this year and in the future – I’m just not sure how much better he can get, and, in what areas he’ll improve the most in…

      unless you have a big man that can pass really well, seems like a lot of the big guy post play has gone away…so, hanging around the arc to dive or shoot may be the way to go…

    46. JK47

      Did you hear, Bernie moved his bowels yesterday. It was one of those long coily ones. It was transcendent.

    47. thenoblefacehumper

      I really hate when Ntilikilla does this shit because I want him to stop but I also want to respond to the bad responses he gets like Jowles just did. God damn it. I’m just not gonna do it this time. For real though dude, there are virtually unlimited places on the internet to talk about politics. Go find them!

      Yes, but the smart players literally say the same thing every year: this summer I’m going to add [one thing]. Whether it’s a post-up game, a 3-ball, adding strength and stamina, the great ones focus on one thing, because they know doing all things means they won’t achieve enough mastery of the one thing to put any of it into use. That’s why the lesser players “largely come back doing the same things.”

      I’ve never heard a player say “I’m going to work on [X skill] and exactly nothing else.” I’m sure in many cases it’s true and is a wise approach, but the optics of a comment like that would not be great. I get that this is a very quiet time for Knicks related news (as the NBA playoffs tend to be) but we really don’t need to overanalyze a player saying he’s going to try to get better this summer. If he comes back jacking up long twos, I’ll eat my share of crow.

    48. JK47

      Every player in the history of the world is going to work on things x, y and z in the offseason and come into camp In The Best Shape Of His Life™. Generally in real life they just tend to follow normal development curves.

      Mitch should just keep being Clint Capela. Block shots, alter shots, make sure nobody wants to shoot the ball anywhere in your vicinity, roll to the rim, get dunks, make free throws when fouled. Hellacious defender who rebounds, throws down dunks and rarely misses FGA. That’s a winning player. Just keep doing that Mitch!

    49. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      I’m not overanalyzing or freaking out; I just saw a bunch of comments and information that was not reassuring. It’s not that I’m saying Mitch should never think about shooting the 3, or developing post moves; I just think trying to do it all at once is a recipe for coming back the same player. Because he won’t be good at any new thing, and his discomfort will make him less likely to try any of it.

      As for players who have added one piece to their game every summer, the best example is LeBron: one year he said, “I am going to work on my post game,” and voila, post game. Another year he said he was going to work on his 3, and voila, a 3 appears. Hakeem is pretty famous for this. I’m pretty sure Tim Duncan did the same kind of thing as well. Bird and Magic, who were already transcendent, talked about off-season road work in year 3 or so, with the sense that “I’ve got to keep going, because I know that guy is running more miles, and the only way I’m going to beat him is if I’m in better shape.” Jordan very consciously added a jumper. Etc.

      I mean, I’m sure they all did lots of shooting drills, watched film, worked out, whatever. But they chose one thing to define whether their off-season was a success, and that make it easier to focus on accomplishing that thing on a level that would translate to success in the best league in the world.

      Since he said three things, improving strength, working on post game, working on his shot, two thirds of what he said is exactly what you are wanting him to work on.

      No, I want him to work on strength/stamina, translating it specifically to boxing out/rebounding. I don’t want him shooting 3s or working on post moves…this year. His offense should be early Amare; his defense should be T-1000 (complete with rebounding).

    50. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      Mitch should just keep being Clint Capela. Block shots, alter shots, make sure nobody wants to shoot the ball anywhere in your vicinity, roll to the rim, get dunks, make free throws when fouled. Hellacious defender who rebounds, throws down dunks and rarely misses FGA. That’s a winning player. Just keep doing that Mitch!

      This. For now.

    51. geo

      Did you hear, Bernie moved his bowels yesterday. It was one of those long coily ones. It was transcendent.

      ever laugh so hard you start coughing like crazy…

      very inspiring post, I’m going to go visit the can here at work, and, hope the single use bathroom is free, and, has had no recent occupants…the ventilation doesn’t seem to work so well in there…

      if necessary, I’ll use the one with multiple stalls, although I find that a little more challenging to focus on the task at hand…

    52. Hubert

      Every player in the history of the world is going to work on things x, y and z in the offseason and come into camp In The Best Shape Of His Life™. Generally in real life they just tend to follow normal development curves.

      But of the exceptions…

      Remember that one time Amar’e went to Olajuwon school and came back with some of the slickest post moves you’ve ever seen?

      I used to think Hakeem was just stealing money from gullible players with that little school he had. But Amar’e, man. He only played 29 games that year (it was the year we were good), and they were all off the bench, but I remember thinking he could have been an unstoppable 6th man/finisher with the post moves he had that year.

    53. Grocer

      I’ve never heard a player say “I’m going to work on [X skill] and exactly nothing else.”

      There’s probably a lot of self-selection going on here too. Player improves at a particular thing, reporters ask questions about it, “I really focused on that thing this off-season.” Can’t draw a lot of conclusions from that.

    54. Grocer

      No, I want him to work on strength/stamina, translating it specifically to boxing out/rebounding. I don’t want him shooting 3s or working on post moves

      This is silly. You can’t just lift and do cardio for 8-10 hours a day, what the hell. He’s gonna be on the court doing shit. Do you seriously believe any of these guys don’t spend some time each day putting up shots? We already know Mitch takes threes after every practice, he’s said as much. He needs to get better at moving/positioning/foot work in the post on both sides of the court. So he shouldn’t work on that, just focus on cardio/weights? You are reading too much into it, creating concerns where none are apparent.

      If he had said something like “I really admire Dirk, and my main goal this summer is to add a mid-range fade” then yes, we should all be concerned. But he didn’t say that.

    55. geo

      my only complaint with ntilakilla is they switched their tag from ras (one of the cooler sounding monikers we’ve had here on the site) to whatever ntilakilla is…

      I miss be able to say ras (roz) in my head and write it down…

    56. GoNYGoNYGo Going for the tank

      Congrats Silky!

      While I understand how Mitch might be fascinated by the 3-pt shot, I’m more interested in him being able to take the elbow deuce and the baby jumper. He does need to draw defenders to him to open up the lane. He won’t need to worry about creating his shots because the nearest defender is usually 20 feet away from Mitch out there.

    57. DRed

      Mitch should just keep being Clint Capela.

      This is from an article about Capela from last season:

      For now, Capela is comfortable working within the confines of the Rockets’ guard-centric offense, and for good reason: Harden is the league’s likely Most Valuable Player, and Paul is a future Hall of Famer. Capela understands his role, he said, and wants to improve everything from his ball handling to his defense to his free throws, which remain a work in progress. (Entering the weekend, he was shooting 56.5 percent this season, up from 17.4 percent as a rookie.)

      He even dreams of someday drifting out to the 3-point line.

      “Sure, why not?” he said. “It’s not impossible.”

    58. Ntilakilla

      Bernie’s got more Ignatius Reilly in him than he does true genius. He knows exactly how to fix everything, if only the corrupt and small-minded fools in charge would just start listening to him.

      Agree, buddy. He’s not proposing anything most center moderate politicians in the “developed” industrialized world or anything most Americans don’t want.

      I called Ntilakilla an agent of chaos before it was cool.

      Rude.

    59. Farfa

      I’m not worried about Mitch trying to expand his repertoire. I trust him to know when to use some of that as a sort of release valve, like Boban did when everything else broke down and he was open from the charity stripe. It’s ok to take the only shot left on the table. It’s not ok to launch five threes per game because you got lazy and/or enamored with the latest fad. I really trust Mitch on this.

    60. Ntilakilla

      There are so many websites you can go to and argue with people about politics!

      Yeah, and most of them are littered with morons. Go to DailyKos, for example. The posters here are way more analytical. So why shouldn’t we expand our horizons here and there on subjects outside of basketball? I personally don’t see the problem in talking about politics, art, music, literature, and other interests too. Hell, the Knicks season is over. If people don’t want to engage the subject, they don’t have to. MitchRob is always going to be awesome and his season is over.

      Did you hear, Bernie moved his bowels yesterday. It was one of those long coily ones. It was transcendent.

      See, this is the type of Clintonista nonsense you’ll find in DailyKos.

    61. Owen

      I mean, no one can fault Mitch. The incentives for Mitch are pretty clear. If he can score even five more points per game or shoot 30% from 3 his perceived value will go up.

      But in this case I prefer the Hedgehog to the Fox….

    62. Ntilakilla

      Remember that one time Amar’e went to Olajuwon school and came back with some of the slickest post moves you’ve ever seen?

      A shame he closed down that school to rest of the NBA outside of Houston. Would’ve loved to have seen KP and now MitchRob go down there and figure things out. I seriously believe MitchRob has next level of athletic/basketball IQ. Someone mentioned his free throws as an example and I agree. He’s so raw with so little that you’re tempted to see how much he can learn to do as a stretch 5.

    63. JK47

      See, this is the type of Clintonista nonsense you’ll find in DailyKos.

      Right, and blathering on incessantly about one’s man-crush Bernie Sanders like he’s your favorite member of One Direction is the kind of highbrow political discourse one can only find at a website dedicated to statistical analysis of the worst team in the NBA

    64. swiftandabundant

      The examples you gave of players adding one specific skill each off season were literally some of the best players of all time. So Mitch, you hear that. Just do what Lebron, Tim Duncan, Magic and Larry Bird do! Should be easy enough!

    65. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      If people don’t want to engage the subject, they don’t have to.

      Hear that, everyone? Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting y

    66. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      @68

      Right. The best players say they will focus on adding one thing each off-season. And then there’s Lance Thomas, who is fun to fish with, I guess.

    67. geo

      The posters here are way more analytical. So why shouldn’t we expand our horizons here and there on subjects outside of basketball?

      so, does this mean you’re not changing your name back to räz…

      c’mon man…just do it…

    68. Ntilakilla

      Right, and blathering on incessantly about one’s man-crush Bernie Sanders like he’s your favorite member of One Direction is the kind of highbrow political discourse one can only find at a website dedicated to statistical analysis of the worst team in the NBA

      LOL incessantly? I wrote one post about him here and only after he went on Fox and killed it in a town hall? You’re projecting.

    69. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      Again, it’s not like I’m freaking out, just responding to a story about what Mitch is doing. And the story wasn’t encouraging. It can’t be accident that “the best players” all have preternatural focus, ya know? Was Tim Duncan all that gifted physically, or was he just really really smart? Was Bird an athletic freak, or just more driven than almost anyone else? Mitch seems to have an incredible bball IQ (so much growth in so short a time!), so I’m not anxious, just concerned.

      As for the draft making me anxious, it doesn’t, because the odds are we pick fifth. Period. Go run the tankathon simulator if you need to disabuse yourself of any illusions. Fifth, people. Anything better is luck.

      Like seeing Dallas place above us at least 3 times out of the 30 I ran it. Luck. Painful, awful, heart-rending luck.

    70. wetbandit

      Not answering Jowles on purpose here. No need to talk politics here. Suffice it to say we probably agree on most of that. I just believe capitalism isn’t inherently evil and it’s application to fields like medicine with little govt intervention does lead to progress, and has led to where we are today, while exploitation by the HMOs (created and enabled by govt) no and pharma (enabled by govt) should now be curbed by govt. shit I guess I did answer

    71. JK47

      A tightly regulated form of capitalism where the more rapacious actors have some sort of check on their power would be fine by me. This late-period 40-years-of-Reaganomics version of capitalism where all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a couple dozen oligarchs can eat a dick.

    72. Ntilakilla

      so, does this mean you’re not changing your name back to räz…

      To be honest, I’ve been tempted. But I wish to continue to show solidarity to Frank because I like the kid even if his game looks real bad.

    73. Ntilakilla

      I just believe capitalism isn’t inherently evil and it’s application to fields like medicine with little govt intervention does lead to progress, and has led to where we are today,

      The funny thing here is that Bernie also agrees with this take, which is why he actually legislated a bill which allowed for the import of cheaper generic drugs into the U.S. marketplace, so that domestic consumers can have a greater range of choices instead of being bilked out of their money by our patent system. It’s actually the monopolists in the U.S. pharmaceutical industry who don’t believe in capitalist free-market competition. They’re the “redistributionists”….it’s just they support policies which redistribute that wealth up to the top.

    74. Hubert

      Agree, buddy. He’s not proposing anything most center moderate politicians in the “developed” industrialized world or anything most Americans don’t want.

      I can’t tell if you knew I was being facetious and turned it back on me or if you didn’t grasp the Ignatius Reilly reference. Open to giving you the benefit of the doubt. If it didn’t land, no worries, google it and enjoy a literary treasure.

    75. swiftandabundant

      You know what upsets me? I’m not a real hardcore Bernie person although I did vote for him in the CA primary. But I also happily voted for Clinton even if she wasn’t the best bc clearly she would be better than the shit show we have now.

      But today Bernie releases his tax info. He’s a millionaire, just about 2 million in net worth and most of his wealth he’s gotten in the last few years from his book sales, which were boosted by his last presidential run.

      Even though this qualifies him as barely rich, people are now calling him a hypocrite (both Trump supporters and people on the left who are mad he’s running again). Because apparently you can’t recognize how our current situation favors the uber wealthy and want to change it and also be someone with a little bit of money. Nope, you have to be poor or middle class otherwise you’re a hypocrite.

      Bernie is worth less than a lot of the other Democratic candidates. He’s barely rich. And all he’s advocating for is a more fair system where millionaires and billionaires pay more in taxes so that stuff like health care and education is cheaper for the rest of us. If he can’t advocate for that because he’s barely rich, then none of hte other candidates can too.

      I made this point on Facebook and someone called me a member of the Bernie cult. Its like its impossible to really have an in depth discussion with people about anything bc everyone is trying to win points for their side and its gotten so bad that its not just left vs. right but on the left we’re cannabalizing our own for the sake of winning. But we’re all losing.

      We’re fucked.

    76. Grocer

      Again, it’s not like I’m freaking out, just responding to a story about what Mitch is doing. And the story wasn’t encouraging. It can’t be accident that “the best players” all have preternatural focus, ya know?

      Right on. I just think all those stories are mostly bullshit. It’s not like it’s the only thing they actually put work in on, or that they didn’t put work in on it before. Either way, it is really easy to answer reporters with “I really focused down on this one thing” after you’ve improved at it. It’s what fans and reporters want to hear and it plays into a good narrative for the player. Doesn’t mean it’s not true, but it also doesn’t mean it is the whole truth.

    77. Ntilakilla

      @77 suddenly I understand why you have such a hard on for Bernie

      LOL. Actually, the opposite is the case with Bernie. As the most popular politician in the country he’s like the Giannis version of national politics today. If wanted to support a national politician like Frank I’d pick a Kirsten Gillibrand.

    78. Grocer

      Even though this qualifies him as barely rich, people are now calling him a hypocrite

      Al Gore claims to be an environmentalist but he stills flies on planes!

      People say stupid shit all the time, like tanking is a bad strategy because it isn’t 100% effective. Sometimes you just gotta argue on the internet, even though you know it’s dumb.

    79. swiftandabundant

      Yeah I just think its funny people are calling him rich. I mean, he is. But 2 million dollars for someone who is 80 years old and has been a senator since the 80’s? I’m surprised he isn’t worth a lot more honestly. A lot of politicians much younger than him are worth a lot more. 2 million net worth is basically a lifetime of good investments and owning one or two homes. Its nice. Don’t get me wrong. But its not Jezz Bezos rich. Its not even Clooney or Lebron rich, ya know? A good doctor or lawyer could be worth that much by the end of the their life.

      And Bernie’s tax returns shows that he’s paid the correct amount on his taxes. He isn’t hiding money in charitable trusts or overseas or in shell corporations. He ran for president and wrote a best selling book. The idea that someone advocating for more income inequality has to self flaggate themselves in order to keep it real is ridiculous. Its like when people went after AOC for her people should eat less meat comment bc someone took a picture of one of her aides eating a hamburger. Its so stupid.

    80. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I just believe capitalism isn’t inherently evil and it’s application to fields like medicine with little govt intervention does lead to progress, and has led to where we are today, while exploitation by the HMOs (created and enabled by govt) no and pharma (enabled by govt) should now be curbed by govt.

      I would strongly recommend the latest Michael Lewis book for an example of what’s going to happen to our government agencies if the GOP is allowed to continue their reign of slash-and-starve, if not outright deregulation. We can argue all day about how wonderful everything would be with a minarchist government getting itself out of the way of non-coerced, free citizens exchanging freely on the open market, but the application of the GOP brand of deregulation is much stranger and more dangerous. Deregulation will not save this country if it is being handled by the most craven, corrupt businesspeople and politicians the nation has to offer, and that’s exactly what’s happen right now.

      I would guess that you, like me before reading that book, have no idea what the $32B Department of Energy budget looks like, nor the implications of the NOAA being run by the founder and CEO of AccuWeather, so I will just strongly, strongly recommend reading it and seeing what regulatory capture looks like in its actual execution. Arguing principle alone is playing a completely different game.

    81. geo

      I’m not sure why exactly I don’t find politics more interesting…kind of like the news in general I guess – little triumph, lot’s of tragedy…

      did finish up my taxes recently, which forced me to do some homework on current economics and the effects of the tax cuts and jobs act…

      as swift and abundant so aptly put it – we are fucked…at least the bottom 95% or so of us in terms of earnings income…

      my 401k and IRA are doing well though…

    82. Ntilakilla

      @81

      Pretty much. The entire tax issue is just bad faith politicking by his opponents on the right side of the political spectrum. They criticize him for being a poor loser if he advocates for democratic socialist policies only to turn around and criticize him for being a rich hypocrite with “3 houses” if he promotes the same policies. To me, its even more impressive that a man who is in the top 5-10 percent income bracket promotes policies that work against his own class interest for a larger public good of creating much more socially just society. You can always tell the fanatics though when they resort to the “Bernie Bros” or cult accusations. It’s largely projection from a segment whose own fanatical devotion to some technocratic, neoliberal ideal of centrism sees Bernie as some attack on a failing status quo they’ve benefited from most of their lives.

    83. d-mar

      So one day this site is an endless rehash of the arguments for and against tanking, and the next it’s all about Bernie Sanders.

      God, I can’t wait for the draft lottery.

    84. swiftandabundant

      I’m not even a Bernie supporter, per say. I mean, I love the dude but this time around I worry he is too old and I worry that the last election and the results of it have turned some people against him permanently because they blame him for Trump winning (which might have been a factor but it was one of many factors). So I worry he can’t win the general and is too old. But I love what he is advocating.

      I guess my top tier right now is Warren, Bernie, Buttgieg and Harris and I’m not sure in what order I prefer them. But you have to be completely on board or completely against him. There is no middle ground for reasonable discussion.

      And for what it is worth I have seen people on the left make the same “he’s a hypocrite” argument, which is sad because the right uses this “hypocrite” argument all the time and it works because people are just stupid.

    85. thenoblefacehumper

      I like Bernie Sanders but I’m also capable of shutting the hell up about it when appropriate see I’m living proof it can be done

    86. Ntilakilla

      I guess my top tier right now is Warren..

      Of all the candidate, she’s the one promoting some of the most ambitious and structurally fundamental reforms. Reminds me of an old-school Brandeis type New Deal Democrat. It’s a real shame she’s getting drowned out in all of that ridiculous white noise about her ancestry and other candidates. In some ways, I fear she’s missed her moment to run and challenge for the Democratic nomination back in 2016. She made a miscalculation not getting in that race bowing down to Hillary’s machine as if it was inevitably going to win. I also fear she has bad political instincts as her choice to engage in a DNA test proved.

    87. wetbandit

      Example of govt in the way: we use an intravenous contrast in our office every day. Ten years ago, it was worth $10 and angiograms paid $300. Great for the doc. Now with increased regulation, there is only one company approved to make the contrast and it sells for $70 now. The test pays $120 due to physician CMS (Medicare) cuts I get more of every year. You lose money paying a technician to perform these. I also spend over half my day hunched over my computer trying badly to both hear my patient and type into my govt mandated medical record system. Pardon me if I believe the govt gets it wrong much more than right.

    88. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Example of govt in the way: we use an intravenous contrast in our office every day. Ten years ago, it was worth $10 and angiograms paid $300. Great for the doc. Now with increased regulation, there is only one company approved to make the contrast and it sells for $70 now. The test pays $120 due to physician CMS (Medicare) cuts I get more of every year. You lose money paying a technician to perform these. I also spend over half my day hunched over my computer trying badly to both hear my patient and type into my govt mandated medical record system. Pardon me if I believe the govt gets it wrong much more than right.

      And was that a function of regulatory capture or bog-standard red tape?

    89. Owen

      It’s appropriate that we are discussing descending into politics on this blog on the same day we are discussing whether Mitch should shoot 3s.

      I am all for staying in our lane unless the day’s event absolutely demand it…

      Going to be a long offseason. At least it should be a more exciting one this year….

    90. Ntilakilla

      Toronto smacking Orlando’s ass. Looking to make a statement after that 1st game collapse in the fourth quarter. Lowry came in with a mission to shut his critics up.

    91. vincoug

      I also spend over half my day hunched over my computer trying badly to both hear my patient and type into my govt mandated medical record system.

      As someone who used to manage various IT systems at my old hospital and who currently works for a medical technology company, the pros of the various electronic systems used in healthcare far outweigh and supposed negatives. Just the fact that other providers no longer have to try and interpret someone else’s handwriting is a massive and easiest improvement.

    92. Early Bird

      I like Buttigieg a lot. However, I listened to one interview where he started comparing the problems he worked on as mayor to what he might face as president. I immediately began thinking he’s not ready for the job yet. In an ideal world where people elected president are actually qualified, I would not vote for him. From a practical standpoint, I think he may struggle when he’s forced to take an actual political stance or talk about issues. I’d love to see him work in the Senate or House for awhile. Again, an ideal world where our president actually has qualifications or experience.

      I think Bernie has a decent chance this year as the more central candidates split the votes. I would love Bernie to throw his weight behind a similar, younger candidate.

    93. DRed

      Go to DailyKos, for example. The posters here are way more analytical. So why shouldn’t we expand our horizons here and there on subjects outside of basketball? I personally don’t see the problem in talking about politics,

      Sure, I could go to DailyKos or a huge number of other websites if I wanted to read people talking about politics, but instead I’m on a blog about the Knicks.

    94. Early Bird

      Also, I have no issue with the blog going into politics. However, the discussion needs to remain a discussion. Once someone starts throwing shade, e.g., calling others a “confederacy of dunces,” no discussion remains.

      I’d also like to point out the absurdity of the “dunces” comment, since literally any faction behind Trump, Clinton, or Bernie could, and likely has, pronounced the same sentiment in their own favor.

      Final point, Ntilakilla is a troll and should be banned.

    95. Ntilakilla

      I like Buttigieg a lot.

      He’s gaining in the Emerson national polling, up to 3rd place now. Seems like he’s a favorite of the West Wing, Aaron Sorkin wing of the Democratic Party.

      Buttigieg has only started to register in polls and the subgroup sizes for these can be very small. But patterns are beginning to emerge and the Buttigieg base coming into focus seems to skew higher income, more liberal, and white: pic.twitter.com/pw6UcPohLf— Steve Kornacki (@SteveKornacki) April 16, 2019

      I think Bernie has a decent chance this year as the more central candidates split the votes. I would love Bernie to throw his weight behind a similar, younger candidate.

      He’s practically guaranteed that his VP would be a woman of color because of his older age. Maybe a Stacey Adams? I like Tulsi Gabbard, but the rank and file hate her guts for speaking out against our imperialist foreign policy.

    96. Hubert

      It’s appropriate that we are discussing descending into politics on this blog on the same day we are discussing whether Mitch should shoot 3s.

      I am all for staying in our lane

      Well said!

      This thread is like watching Mitch shoot 2-10 from the perimeter.

    97. Ntilakilla

      Sure, I could go to DailyKos or a huge number of other websites if I wanted to read people talking about politics, but instead I’m on a blog about the Knicks.

      The sad thing is that you’ll get a better faith argument about politics on a blog about the Knicks.

    98. thenoblefacehumper

      Tulsi Gabbard reeeeeeeally likes fascists in India and Egypt ahhhhh why am I doing this

    99. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

      I hate Trump as President, but if it were a hoice between him and Sanders I might vote for Trump. Sanders would raise taxes a lot to pay for college for everyone, which would mean every burger flipper would need a full college degree. That wouldn’t be helpful, just expensive.

    100. Ntilakilla

      I’d also like to point out the absurdity of the “dunces” comment, since literally any faction behind Trump, Clinton, or Bernie could, and likely has, pronounced the same sentiment in their own favor.

      No, not every faction could make that argument. Donald Trump is a dunce. David Brock is a dunce who made his political bones calling Anita Hill a lying slut after the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court nomination was confirmed.

      Final point, Ntilakilla is a troll and should be banned.

      Fake news.

    101. Ntilakilla

      Tulsi Gabbard reeeeeeeally likes fascists in India and Egypt ahhhhh why am I doing this

      Yeah, her links with far right Hindu nationalists is a real problem, one which limits her viability as a progressive anti-war candidate. But this isn’t why the Democratic Party establishment hates her. This is a party with major ties to a genocidal Jewish supremacist like Bibi Netanyahu who promotes the Israeli colonization of Palestinian land in the West Bank. This is a party with major ties to the House of Saud, a medieval theocratic monarchy. This is a party with ties to the pro-fascist government in the Ukraine which came to power after a virtual coup. What they really dislike is her criticism towards the hawkish aspects of American foreign policy.

    102. Zippy Le Pin

      Good job, Knickerbloggerkilla. You’ve done it again, ruined another thread. I’m out of here.

      While it is, indeed, in some places, for some people, a free country, I do politely ask you to shut the fuck up about politics on this site.

    103. Ntilakilla

      LOL the guy who contributed nothing to the thread before he commented to complain about me just said he’s out of here.

    104. Grocer

      Tulsi Gabbard reeeeeeeally likes fascists in India and Egypt ahhhhh why am I doing this

      Cause she’s also a big fan of Assad and a former anti-gay crusader who still refers to homosexuality as a “lifestyle”?

      In exciting basketball news I went to the DMV yesterday. It was fine. They played Careless Whispers. Bunch of Hall & Oates too. There’s always a bunch of Hall & Oates. Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat. Trier turned him on to it. True story.

    105. Grocer

      Not in a place where I can watch Spurs Nuggets, missed the first one too. Anybody feel like breaking it down for me?

    106. wetbandit

      And was that a function of regulatory capture or bog-standard red tape?

      Both.

      And no, EMRs are the worst thing to happen to medicine since HMOs. Imagine diagnosing and explaining a life altering disease, it’s prognosis, and different options for treatment, and yet still spending 75% of your day at a computer screen, making less money, for more volume, with more red tape yada yada. I would probably hate Medicare for all.

    107. Z-man

      Would you all agree that perhaps the most terrifying non-lethal non-animal obstacle in all of sports is the 12th hole of the final round at Augusta on a blustery day? It’s a full 8-9-iron in the hands of the game’s best players. How do 4 of the last 6 players hit it in the water, all in the same place???

    108. Z-man

      Hey JK et. al., back to my LA quandary, I’ve decided to spend Sat nite in West Hollywood and Sunday nite at the Shore hotel in Santa Monica. Any recommendations as to:
      -Hotel preference in West Hollywood…I’ve narrowed it down to either the Mondrian or London West Hollywood based on great deals I found online. Mondrian looks like more fun (skybar/pool scene) but not a great room for Dad/son. London has an amazing suite but the pool/restaurant seems more exclusive i.e. less fun.
      -good clubs to go to on Sat nite
      -good eats that won’t kill the budget

      My overall itinerary is sick….flying in and out of SF, renting a convertible and squeezing in Yosemite and the Pacific Coast Highway. Hopefully my glaucoma won’t act up from all the eyestrain…

    109. vincoug

      And no, EMRs are the worst thing to happen to medicine since HMOs. Imagine diagnosing and explaining a life altering disease, it’s prognosis, and different options for treatment, and yet still spending 75% of your day at a computer screen, making less money, for more volume, with more red tape yada yada. I would probably hate Medicare for all.

      Imagine getting the correct medication because the pharmacy isn’t misinterpreting terrible hand-written scripts. Or not being given medication you’re allergic to because the doctor gets a warning when they’re entering the order and the nurse gets a warning if they try to administer it.

    110. geo

      In exciting basketball news I went to the DMV yesterday. It was fine. They played Careless Whispers. Bunch of Hall & Oates too. There’s always a bunch of Hall & Oates. Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat. Trier turned him on to it. True story.

      well said grocer :)

    111. geo

      one of the benefits of living out west – get to catch some of these competitive late night games, and, get some sleep before the next day…

      denver all the way back in it with about 8 minutes left…flipping back and forth between that game and okc/portland…

      just saw the replay of the cousins injury – that looked really bad…

    112. wetbandit

      For those reasons I was all for EMR. But when bureaucratic regulatory nonsense necessary for reinbursement got tacked on it became a huge burden taking most of our time. Look up MIPS PQRS QAP MACRA and APM and how we have to document things like tobacco screening to get paid for a retinal detachment repair and you will understand. Reporting nonsense for 6 hours a day is not why I sacrificed my early adult years and am going to be in debt until my late adult years.

    113. JK47

      -Hotel preference in West Hollywood…I’ve narrowed it down to either the Mondrian or London West Hollywood based on great deals I found online. Mondrian looks like more fun (skybar/pool scene) but not a great room for Dad/son. London has an amazing suite but the pool/restaurant seems more exclusive i.e. less fun.
      -good clubs to go to on Sat nite
      -good eats that won’t kill the budget

      I’ve never been to the London West Hollywood, but the Mondrian is BALLER. Skybar is legendary for people watching, it’s Hollywood glitz and cheese at its finest. I haven’t been there in years but I’m sure it has not changed much.

      For good clubs… I’m not really much of a “club” guy, I tend to prefer a nice chill bar. If I remember correctly, your son is into rock history, so you might want to pop into Barney’s Beanery before they tear it down. Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and all the Sunset Strip superstars used to hang out there and the decor hasn’t changed. It’s a little “bro-ish” these days but it’s a piece of history. The West Hollywood one is the one you want. A lot of the clubs in Hollywood have a velvet rope going on during the weekend nights. I do like Harlowe on Santa Monica Blvd, that’s kind of a bar with a club feel.

      For good eats in West Hollywood… Canter’s Deli is good deli food and the place has a lot of history. BLD has great breakfast. If you want to do one kind of fancy meal, Jar on Beverly Blvd is kind of unforgettable. Salt’s Cure is one of my faves, and there’s lots of good cheap eats at the Farmer’s Market, the classic one off of Fairfax. There’s lots of good Korean barbecue around there, Genwa on Wilshire is a favorite of mine. Republique and Sycamore Kitchen are also both A+ spots to eat.

    114. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat.

      Wait, seriously?

      Z-Man, I stayed in the Mondrian a few years so, and it was indeed cool and a great deal. No idea about the London.

    115. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      Also, Dan Tana’s is a pretty cool old school scene. Last time I was there Clint Eastwood and Ron Jeremy came in together and waited in line behind me. That was bizarre.

    116. JK47

      +1 for Dan Tana’s, a Hollywood institution and right next door to the world famous Troubador, which is still going strong.

    117. JK47

      It’s not quite West Hollywood, it’s Hollywood proper but Musso and Frank is a great place to grab a martini. Oldest restaurant in Hollywood, Douglas Fairbanks and Humphrey Bogart used to hang out there.

      LA is really one of the best dive bar cities in the world, I know a million great ones but it sounds like that’s not really what you’re looking for, Z-Man.

      I hope you enjoy our fair city, this place has a surprising amount of heart and soul.

    118. Z-man

      Thanks JK for the detailed post, very helpful! And rama for the added info. recap to follow! (not of the farfa variety of course!)

    119. Grocer
      Knox listens to Hall & Oates. He’s got One On One on repeat.

      Wait, seriously?

      I said it was a true story.

    120. Hubert

      Man, hockey is a weird sport. The Tampa Bay Lightning won 62 games (tied for most ever), took a 3-0 lead in the first period of game 1, and then got outscored 19-5 over the next 11 periods in the process of getting swept out of the first round of the playoffs. Talk about a meaningless regular season.

    121. Owen

      No #7 seed has ever made the NBA Finals. Maybe the Spurs could be the first!

      The Cronin jinx is alive and well. Hubert, you may not believe in it, but it’s real.

    122. Bruno Almeida

      Man, are Lillard and McCollum so fun to watch when they get going. I sure would love it if we were chasing Lillard instead of Irving this offseason.

    123. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Can we please close this thread and start a fresh one without any politics?

      I don’t even want to read anything because I might be tempted to respond to something. All we are ever debating is which corrupt incompetent is going to be pushing policies that are going to make things worse long term.

    124. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Man, are Lillard and McCollum so fun to watch when they get going. I sure would love it if we were chasing Lillard instead of Irving this offseason.

      They are one player away from being a serious contender. Nurkic was almost that player, but I don’t think he was quite enough. They need one more.

    125. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Thanks Owen. :-)

    126. glidepath

      Second to everything Musso and Frank btw. Was struggling to remember the name of the coup de grace on the ex’s LA tour until JK pulled it out. It’s got great people-watching potential on top of the martinis and the steaks

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