Vice: Bobby on Bargs

Great stuff from Robert (once a Knickerblogger always a KnickerBlogger) Silverman on the Nets new problem.

Sift through the pile of Vines and GIFs above, and you will detect a unifying theme, which is that Bargnani is both lost and bored. He doesn’t seem particularly interested in defense or rebounding or passing or any other basketball thing save launching the occasional flat-as-hell twenty-footer. More importantly, he doesn’t seem to give a rat’s ass whether he succeeds or fails, doesn’t care that he doesn’t care, and seems confused as to why we might care so much.

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31 thoughts to “Vice: Bobby on Bargs”

  1. Thank you for reminding me of how awful Barfani is. I can’t wait for him to face Porzingis. There’s a poster waiting to happen.

  2. I knew Bargs was awful, I knew he would be awful when we came here, and I knew exactly the way in which he would be awful. He’s been doing that slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, disinterested thing for many years now. He has no redeeming qualities. Well, the GIFs I guess.

  3. His One Redeeming Quality – The Swan Dive through the lane ending up with a dislocated elbow upon landing

    A perfect 10

  4. It really does show that success in the NBA is as much about drive and attitude than physical ability. I’ve always wondered whether Dwight Howard could have been one of the all-time great centers if he wasn’t such a goofball.

  5. By the time I finished that article I started feeling like Larry Holmes when he had Ali in the corner and kept looking at the referee hoping he would mercifully end the beating.

  6. Although I hate him as a player and as much as I’m disappointed in his lack of effort, I can’t help but feel sorry for him. It’s disgusting, disappointing, and disturbing how society has devolved to the point where it’s acceptable to cheer and celebrate one’s injuries. It was pretty gross when people cheered Chad Pennington’s injury too. Smh.

  7. It was never Bargs fault that we made that idiotic trade for him. I never got the vibe that he wasn’t trying on the floor-I think he’s just really bad at basketball. Dude was willing to leap into the air knowing he was going to get undercut to try to score a basket for a pretty bad basketball team. I’m very glad he’s gone, but I hope he stays healthy all season (especially since he’s a Net)

    I will say that I don’t expect next seasons team to be particularly good, it might be fun to root for.

  8. but seriously he’s not an awful human being or anything and doesnt deserve the vitriol but by god is he a blemish on the face of basketball

  9. The reason I sort of feel sorry for Bargs is that the things that have made him so reviled are at least partly out of his control. Now, maybe he didn’t work as hard as he should have at his craft considering he was paid tons of money. But I don’t know if he did (certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he was not a hard worker). But if Bargs had been an undrafted free agent he would have been a folk hero in Toronto. Sure, the sharper fans would have realized that he was pretty terrible, but he would have played fewer minutes, and who wouldn’t love a doofy long range sort of sniping Italian who could put up pointz? I know some of us didn’t like Chris Copeland, or didn’t want him back, but nobody I’ve ever come across hated him when he was on the Knicks. And he couldn’t play defense or rebound either.

  10. But if Bargs had been an undrafted free agent he would have been a folk hero in Toronto. Sure, the sharper fans would have realized that he was pretty terrible, but he would have played fewer minutes, and who wouldn’t love a doofy long range sort of sniping Italian who could put up pointz? I know some of us didn’t like Chris Copeland, or didn’t want him back, but nobody I’ve ever come across hated him when he was on the Knicks. And he couldn’t play defense or rebound either.

    Yeah but this isn’t really the thing. I mean the expectations are important, sure, but Silverman is right that it’s as much his demeanor as his disappointment relative to hype. I mean, in Toronto he was the overall #1, but here he was just a reclamation project picked up for a subordinated 1st rounder and too much cap space. Guys have been bigger disappointments here relative to cost (Amar’e, Kenny Walker) without being nearly as reviled.

    Yet it’s still easy to empathize with Bargs, especially when he’s not currently playing defense on your television. Maybe he’s one of those guys who just doesn’t wear his heart or grit on his sleeve,* or more likely maybe he just isn’t living and dying with how the round orange thing bounces. I mean, it’s easy to say that for a gazillion dollars to do something so many people would kill for we should expect warriors. But when they threw all the monies at him, the contract didn’t say anything about that. What is a generally low-intensity or maybe basketball-apathetic dude supposed to do? Sell pianos instead? Faking it usually doesn’t work, anyway, you just end up as Dwight Howard — and that’s only if you’re actually awesome at NBA basketball. I’m all for not buying his jersey and some reasonably light-hearted teasing, but anything beyond that is pretty silly.

    *Doubt it

  11. He nailed Rolo, Afflalo and O’Quinn?!? Are we sure he didn’t hire Chad Ford to somehow go back and modify the video??

  12. someone remind me of the Wolof phrase for that existential feeling you get when you see Travis Wear’s twin brother play summer league for the Kings?

  13. It certainly seems on all accounts that Bargs is a good guy and not a major disruption in the locker room. I think a lot of his problem is (aside from not being great at a lot of aspects of Basketball) is that he seems to have a massively introverted personality, which makes it seem like he doesn’t care. Of course he may not care, but I think he could have won a few more hearts in his career if he just showed a bit of fire on the court (i.e. more of talking jive to KG in Italian).

    Good luck to him, but I have to admit I am pretty chuffed he went to Brooklyn. Mostly because the Nets can get fucked. Schadenfreude I know, but I am a very petty man.

  14. He did sorta NOT back down to that piece of shit Garnett in a preseason game. And you have respect him for that… It takes guys like bargs who probably isn’t buddy buddy the POS Garnett to put him in his place… Unfortunately the NBA is bullshit these days and it wasn’t allowed to escalate…. In any event bargs biggest problem , as alluded to , is that he was a number one pick … He also happens to be 7ft and not a terrible shooter. In short, I don’t feel bad for millionaires. But that’s that

  15. The no.1 status and potentially the extension Toronto gave him probably inflated expectations of him, which I guess in a way is a little unfair because some of those things were out of his control. That said, he had the tools to meet those expectations, so you can chalk not living up to potential on his behalf (e.g. maybe not working hard enough on his craft, trying to keep in shape to prevent injuries). Plus you know, it’s hard to feel sympathy for a millionaire *eats instant noodles for dinner*.

    In a polar opposite to AB, you only have to look at Andrew Bogut . He’s managed to move on from the ‘stigma’ of being a number 1 and having All-Stars and potential 1st ballot hall of famers drafted after him, by working back from some pretty terrible injuries to become a very serviceable role player on a champion team.

  16. Towns has been kinda meh so far, but he’s calmly wrecking the Portland front line right now.

  17. Harvey Araton is 5-years-old?

    (Just kidding, Z-man – I read the last thread and got the reference. Well, skimmed the thread. OK, cherry-picked the one-liners. Because, you know, it JUST. KEPT. GOING.)

    I am kind of excited about rooting for this team. Not because I expect more than 35 wins, but because it seems like a group of smart, decent people who will work hard, play defense, and maximize their (modest) skills, all without risking becoming murderers by driving drunk multiple times. What’s not to love?

  18. I am kind of excited about rooting for this team. Not because I expect more than 35 wins, but because it seems like a group of smart, decent people who will work hard, play defense, and maximize their (modest) skills, all without risking becoming murderers by driving drunk multiple times. What’s not to love?

    Regardless of whether we could have gotten more ‘talented’ players this FA and draft; the emphasis on character makes this team a lot more rootable. I don’t know if we can expect much, but when you see interviews with Porzingis (#StapsInTheNameofLove has been a great trend on twitter during SL so far) and Grant’s Tribune article, you can’t help but feel good about the team, regardless of the fact we all know these guys aren’t going to be world beaters straight off the bat.

  19. @7 GNYGNG

    Wow, Beck was pretty spot on, thanks for posting that! Not that he’s the end-all, but essentially the piece is an appeal to a measured, take out the trash and hit a lot of single and doubles approach rather than going for a home run. Beck has been less than complimentary to the Knicks for a long time, and seeing that he and Phil were essentially on the same page is, well, refreshing!

  20. It went like this:
    Phil seems like NYT reader to me….and reads Becks takes for years before he becomes the knicks president.
    Then in december 14 he checks what Beck has to say on what to do with the mess and does it accordingly.

    I am too lazy to check who Beck wanted to pick prior to the draft to verify my speculation but,
    I know that Ruru dislikes Beck(fact) and that Beck is the person who actually is running the Knicks(opinion).

  21. @23 as to likeable, that’s a huge step up from where we have been. Jackson didn’t execute the moves as gracefully and shrewdly as he might have, and has said some dumb things, but here we are in a place that is the most promising it has been since the pre-Melo trade: A rootable, scrappy team with savvy veterans and promising kids, and a non-capped out, not bereft of future picks situation to look forward to, with a GM that is clearly not Dolan’s puppet.

  22. My thing with Bargnani starts with the belief I had that he needed to get out of Toronto to live up to the hype of being a #1 pick. I had hope for him because, damn it, he was born with skills. What upsets me is how apathetic he seems to be (I should say how apathetic he “is”). There’s a difference between getting beat by your man because of talent vs not giving it a try. There are so many videos of him just standing there, like a deer in the headlights, as his man drives to the hoop untouched. The one thing I, as a fan, will not tolerate, is not trying. If you try and fail, I’ll root for you to do better next time. If you don’t try, I’ll root for you to be somewhere else.

  23. Had zip on Zinger. Never heard before, although I watch me some ACB occasionally. Hope he brings it in the future.
    Porzingis made me watch some film on Darko,Bargs and some other euro busts and I came to the conclusion(like many here before) that he maybe won’t be an all-star but also not a bust like those guys were, predominantly because those guys were really pathetic between their ears what with Zings seems not to be the case.

    For the money he got from Wolwes i think Bjelica is good addition…was hoping he somehow came to the Knicks at a low price.

    And this: Youssou was for a long time my favorite, but this Maurice guy is challenging his top spot on my Ndour top list.

  24. Questions still is – is bargs worth the minimum ?

    Answer – yes , played good ball at end of season / SHOT 45/46%- good for the triangle > minimum – mini – miniscule – cheapo – $ –

    NO BOUT A DOUBT IT !

    LET GO THE HATE !

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