Knicks Morning News (2017.06.01)

  • [ESPN] How numbers would add up in a Carmelo Anthony trade
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:45:04 PM)

    How numbers would add up in a Carmelo Anthony trade

  • [NYTimes] LeBron James Responds to Racial Vandalism: ‘Being Black in America Is Tough’
    (Thursday, June 01, 2017 2:49:48 AM)

    James gave a frank and emotional response at a news conference after a racial slur was discovered painted on his house in Los Angeles.

  • [NYTimes] The Warriors, Once the N.B.A.’s Darlings, Flirt With the Villains’ Role
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:55:38 PM)

    Things turned when Golden State signed Kevin Durant because fans want “Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant, not for them to tag-team together.”

  • [NYTimes] An N.B.A. Throwback: Ads on Jerseys
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:28:44 PM)

    Players on company teams once sported uniforms emblazoned with logos, like that of Goodyear. When N.B.A. teams begin wearing ads from sponsors next season, Goodyear will again be on a uniform.

  • [NYTimes] Sorry, Cavaliers. It’s Warriors (in Four, Five, Six or Seven).
    (Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:53:48 AM)

    Editors and writers from The Times predict how the much anticipated N.B.A. finals will play out.

  • [NYDN] J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert weigh in on Carmelo Anthony and Knicks
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:25:18 PM)

    There’s been no indication Carmelo Anthony is willing to heed Phil Jackson’s advice and waive the no-trade clause.

  • [SNY Knicks] Isaiah Briscoe’s workout with the Knicks went “very well”
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:56:43 PM)

    Former Kentucky guard, Isaiah Briscoe, told zagsblog.com that his workout with the Knicks went “very well.”

  • [SNY Knicks] Could Knicks land another first round pick for O’Quinn?
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:00:13 PM)

    Talk of the Pistons being motivated to move their lottery pick for a proven veteran is sure to be the first in a domino effect of speculation across the league.

  • [SNY Knicks] Mark Jackson: Phil Jackson a “failure” as Knicks president
    (Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:32:48 AM)

    ESPN NBA analyst and former Knicks point guard, Mark Jackson, called Knicks president Phil Jackson a “failure,” according to Marc Berman of the NY Post.

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    1. So what’s everyone’s predictions

      I got Warriors in 5 or 6 (probably 5)

      They win by seven tonight, 107-100.

      It feels crazy to bet against Lebron but I gotta

    2. You have to go Warriors. The Cavs winning wouldn’t be a stunner, but it’s not a statistical likelihood. I’ll go Warriors in 6, as well. I hope I’m wrong, as I’d like to see the Cavs win (well, over the Warriors, that is. Not in general).

    3. This is just like the 80’s Lakers vs. Celtics matchups.

      The Warriors are far better rested than they were last season. As are the Cavs as well.

      I predict that I’ll stay up later than I’d want watching this incredible matchup. Why exactly do they have start at 9 pm anyway?

      What’s wrong with an 8 pm start?
      Seriously.

    4. A 9pm start assures that the game will air in prime time (at least a little bit of the game) in every part of the continental United States. That’s why all major games (outside of the Super Bowl, of course) start after 9.

    5. Betting against LeBron these days is a fool’s errand. I also think that the Warriors are the most overrated and overhyped team of all time.

      Cavs in 6.

    6. PS I’m basing my opinion on the fact that the league is crazy watered down these days. In my opinion, not a single team other than the Cavs and Warriors would have made it to the conference finals in the better years of the 80’s-90’s without the changes in rules that benefit the offense.

    7. Warriors in 4. No more free safety LeBron because he has to worry about Kevin Durant who is somehow officially the most underrated superstar in pro basketball (I mean the guy led the NBA in WS/48 this year).

      There is nothing Cleveland can do with Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, and Draymond Green. LeBron is the best player on planet Earth, but while I love Kyrie I know he’s overrated and Kevin Love isn’t the superstar he looked like he was in Minnesota. And then they have to worry about the idea of Klay Thompson. And then Javale McGee who is basically DeAndre Jordan in the 10-15 minutes a night he plays. Golden State is too good. Plain and simple.

    8. You don’t think the Spurs with an uninjured Kawhi–who had a top 10 playoff performance all time in WS/48 and a top 20 all time in BPM, could make the conference finals?

      I highly doubt that. I think Houston could’ve hacked it as well, even though they probably benefit most strikingly from the lack of hand checking (that being said Harden would absolutely roast anyone in the era where you couldn’t overload the strong side on d.) I think you’re right with regard to the East, though.

    9. I also think that one of the most underrated players in this match-up is Tristan Thompson.

    10. I would pick teams like the Malone-Stockton Jazz, Hakeem-Drexler Rockets, Barkley-Johnson Suns, and Payton-Kemp Sonics over the current Spurs. It’s Kawhi and a bunch of overrated and/or ancient ex-stars and some decent role players playing for an all-time great coach. Again, the caveat is allowing hand-checking and hard fouls on penetrators.

    11. I think Thompson will give GS fits whenever he’s on the floor and McGee isn’t but I don’t see him impacting enough to overcome the sheer firepower of GSW.

      The difference between this year and last year is that the rotation is just as short as last year but you’ve replaced Harrison barnes–who couldn’t throw the ball into the ocean that series–with KD.

      If Lebron does it he’ll be indisputably the GOAT I think though. I’m definitely rooting for him.

    12. I think a bizarre X-Factor is Deron Williams. If he can even play decently, that’s huge for the Cavs. Their backcourt depth is baaaaaare.

    13. Warriors in 5. LeBron is going to have to duplicate his performance and hope that 2 of the 3 Warriors’ shooters get cold and stay cold. It could happen, but I don’t think it’s likely.

    14. LeBron is going to have to duplicate his performance and hope that 2 of the 3 Warriors’ shooters get cold and stay cold. It could happen, but I don’t think it’s likely.

      Right. As truly magnificent as Lebron and Kyrie were in closing out the Finals last year it took Curry and Klay being ice cold, Draymond getting suspended and Harrison Barnes bricking everything to get over the hurdle. GSW is better this year, has an ISO monster in Durant that can destroy the switching scheme Cleveland employed last year and also prevents Lebron from playing free safety on defense.

      There’s certainly ways in which Cleveland could win, but it would require an even more unlikely confluence of events than what occurred last season. GSW’s defense is also better this year, especially in their small ball lineup where Durant gives them another viable rim protector.

    15. But seriously. GSW will win this in 6 I think. But damn if GSW does lose Durant is going to take A LOT of flack from people a la LeBron in 2010 when he lost to Dallas.

      We should want GSW to win because it adds Cleveland to the (short) list of teams that might want to add Melo. GSW winning could also up the odds of the Banana Boat considerably.

    16. The Warriors starting lineup is clearly better with the addition of Durant, but they have so much scoring, he probably doesn’t add as much as people think given that some of his shots are coming from Curry and Klay who are also wildly efficient.

      I also think people are underrating the fact that Kyrie Irving is young and just starting to peak, Love has finally figured out his role on that team and is playing better, and Lebron is still the best player on the planet. On the bench I’ll also take Deron Williams over Dellavedova and Kyle Korver was another positive addition. The only place the Cavs are probably weaker is at backup C. They had a legitimate big backup C in Mozgov and now they really don’t have that with Bogut getting hurt. But I still think this version of the Cavs is better than last year also.

      That could make it a tough series.

      One interesting match up will be at back center.

      Will Javale McGee dominate his minutes over Frye (or whoever guards him) on the inside or will Frye shooting 3s and dragging McGee out cause problems for him.

    17. I really don’t care who wins the series. I’m waiting for my beloved Knicks to win it soon. That’s all that matters.

    18. The Warriors starting lineup is clearly better with the addition of Durant, but they have so much scoring, he probably doesn’t add as much as people think given that some of his shots are coming from Curry and Klay who are also wildly efficient.

      From my “independent research” in April:

      Warriors were #1 in PPP with 1.156. League average was 1.088.

      Standard deviation from mean: 0.0332

      PPP with Durant on floor: 1.212 (what the fuck)
      PPP without Durant on floor 1.114 (ranked 7th)

      The Warriors were 0.72 standard deviations from mean without Durant on the floor. This is about a ~75th percentile team given a normal distribution (bell curve). Combined with their #2 ranked PPP defense, that’s a recipe for a good team.

      With Durant? 3.73 standard deviations from mean. 99.9th percentile.

      This isn’t all that scientific, but they were much, much, much better on offense with Durant on the floor. They are a great team without him, but a legendary one with him.

      So… no.

    19. From my “independent research” in April:

      I don’t think you should be comparing Durant on the floor to Durant off the floor for the team this year. Unquestionably the Warriors are going to be WAY better with Durant on the floor than with him off the floor.

      The compare I am making intuitively would be the starting lineup last year with Harrsion Barnes playing vs. the starting lineup this year with Durant playing, (even that one is slightly different at C)

      The question is how much better is the offense with Durant/Curry/Thompson vs . Barnes/Curry/Thompson.

      In that scenario, Durant’s usage goes way up relative to Barnes and adds a TON of efficiency and value, but Curry/Thompson usage goes down and offsets some of it because they were killer last year anyway. So the NET on the shift will be positive, but perhaps not as positive as if you added Durant to the Knicks and took shots away from Melo.

    20. i’m not sure how much reg season efficiency #s apply in the playoffs and certainly at this stage… the warriors were also really good offenses the last couple of years but were nowhere close as good against the cavs… if they go cold on 3s like last year it will be close..

      but durant poses a huge problem for the cavs.. i’m not sure if korver will ever see the floor this series…

    21. Strat i generally agree with what you are saying…….. but last year barnes went 5-32 the last three games of the finals…….. pretty sure durant isn’t doing that

    22. Strat i generally agree with what you are saying…….. but last year barnes went 5-32 the last three games of the finals…….. pretty sure durant isn’t doing that

      lmao

      I don’t remember those 5 makes.

    23. So the NET on the shift will be positive, but perhaps not as positive as if you added Durant to the Knicks and took shots away from Melo.

      I agree that Durant replacing a bad player like Carmelo would be a much larger impact on a team’s overall rating, but as I indicated, they go from a 75th percentile team with him off-court to a 99.7th percentile team with him on the court. The impact that he has on a team’s offensive game is enormous. He’s basically guaranteed two or three driving dunks each game, and he’s a marksman from everywhere on the court. He is unfair.

      I’d argue that the difference is negligible. In the playoffs, Curry takes just 1.7 fewer shots per 100 possessions than he did last year.

      The important thing is that Durant takes shots away from Harrison Barnes, who is a trash offensive player and was especially trash last Finals.

      As with any GSW game, the only way to beat them is to let them beat themselves with turnovers, or pray for a 3-13 night from Klay. Hopefully Klay has his THC levels dialed in.

    24. Yeah but Durant chokes in pressure situations. I know this isn’t something that we like to talk about on a stats driven site but he does have a tendency to come up cold in pressure situations. I think GSW will win and if they do win it will be in like 5 or 6. But if it goes to 7, I’m taking the Cavs. I think the longer the series goes, the more it favors the Cavs bc the Warriors will start thinking in the back of their heads about last year and that could affect their shooting.

      And if LeBron goes nuclear it changes everything. 2 years ago LeBron basically by himself took the Warriors to 6. And the Cavs are way better now than 2 years ago. I agree Durant is a big upgrade but I’m always suspect when a good team upgrades something they are all ready good at (i.e., offense and scoring). The Warriors don’t have a lot of weaknesses but The Cavs aren’t scared of them.

    25. Yeah clevelands gonna have to hope that Klay is this years Harrison Barnes because he’s been putrid in the playoffs

    26. @26 I don’t think we are actually disagreeing as much as we are debating extent of positive impact.

    27. Phone just buzzed with this little tidbit from Ian

      “The Knicks have talked to the Portland Trailblazers about acquiring one of Portland’s first-round picks, a source confirms to ESPN. The Knicks have workouts scheduled with at least one player pegged for a mid to late first-round pick in UNC’s Justin Jackson and are looking to acquire a second first-rounder to add to the pick they currently own – the No. 8 overall pick. Portland owns the 15th, 20th and 26th overall picks. The Knicks and Blazers discussions were first reported by the Sporting News.”

    28. Yeah but Durant chokes in pressure situations. I know this isn’t something that we like to talk about on a stats driven site but he does have a tendency to come up cold in pressure situations.

      I feel like you have some psychology-based stat that you’re not sharing with us. Please tell us about how you know Durant has the psyche of a small, fragile child.

      I think the longer the series goes, the more it favors the Cavs bc the Warriors will start thinking in the back of their heads about last year and that could affect their shooting.

      I know you’re one of the posters who prides themselves on making big, bold projections, but this is analysis on the level of a Stephen A. Smith yell-rant.

      Does Curry have flashbacks to the time that he watched Dell got bounced from the playoffs by Iverson? Has Durant discussed with his therapist the time he got rocked by USC in the 2nd round of the tourney, dropping him to #2 in the draft? Does Klay have PTSD from that one time in college when someone gave him a sativa edible instead of indica before bedtime, and he stayed up half the night thinking about the fragility of mortality?

      I feel like you’re withholding a lot of information from us, and that’s not fair.

    29. I think a lot boils down to how much credence you give to Cleveland’s postseason performance vs. their regular season performance. They’ve been pretty amazing in the playoffs, like maybe 97% as good as Golden State. People will say that a lot of that is because of the East, but if you look at the teams Golden State faced, once you adjust for injuries it was hardly a murderer’s row either. If you believe that’s Cleveland’s real level you probably think they have a shot to make it a real series and possibly even win. If you place almost any informational value on Cleveland’s regular season then you probably think they have no shot, because they were exceedingly average, particularly defensively. That’s why a lot of the statistical models (which prefer bigger sample sizes) give them no shot.

      I think Cleveland is much more the team they’ve shown in the playoffs than who they were in the regular season, and yet still I give them only an outside shot. I think they did find something of a recipe over the course of the last two finals in terms of taking Golden State out of their rhythm by forcing Steph to defend a lot, slowing down the game, etc. and with Lebron being supernova that allowed them to play a more talented and frankly better team effectively to a draw last year and then win a coin flip. I think their big problem this year (mentioned by lavor above as well) is that slowing it down and making it a grinding-Iso game can’t hurt Golden State nearly as much with Durant in the fold. And even if they are able to execute that plan I still think that makes the series 50/50, not inherently Cavs-favored.

      As much as I want the Cavs to win I think it’s probably 10-15% chance.

    30. That said I think tonight is potentially a big opportunity. Golden State started off so sloppy and cold in game 1 against San Antonio off a long break and I expect both teams to have some trouble warming up to the level of competition tonight after cruising so easily to this point. If it’s a messy game where neither team plays their best, that’s definitely the style of game Cleveland wants.

    31. Justin Jackson is not particularly promising, but trying to get another pick is probably good

    32. “As with any GSW game, the only way to beat them is to let them beat themselves with turnovers, or pray for a 3-13 night from Klay. Hopefully Klay has his THC levels dialed in.”

      hmmm… THCJ=THC+J

      That explains everything!

    33. SRS

      Cavs
      Pacers: -0.65 (19th)
      Raptors: 3.65 (6th)
      Celtics: 2.25 (8th, no Isaiah)

      Warriors
      Blazers: -0.23 (16th)
      Utah: 4.00 (5th)
      Spurs: 7.13 (2nd, no Kawhi)

      Pretty comparable road to the Finals, but over 7 games, individual matchups matter much more than SRS and ELO. The Cavs have been about as absurd as Durant-led GSW on the offensive side. Out of the players who have actually been on the floor, Love is #7 in TS% with a .636 mark. That’s incomprehensible. Half of their team takes half their shots from 3.

    34. any guesses on what we might have to give and whom we might have to take back if a trade with Portland materializes?

      oh yeah – warriors in 5…

    35. It’s gonna be CLee +KOQ for Evan turner or KOQ plus some filler for Harkless/Aminu is my best guess

      Evan turner is 100% destined to be a Knick at some point in his career. Now is the time

    36. any guesses on what we might have to give and whom we might have to take back if a trade with Portland materializes?

      We don’t really have a lot to offer them in trade. The usual stuff, I guess: one year plus a player option of Kyle O’Quinn, Courtney Lee who they don’t need, Kuz, back-of-roster filler like Ron Baker and Chasson Randle…

      So the better bet might be to take on one of their crappy contracts, which include:
      Evan Turner 3/52
      Allen Crabbe 3/55
      Meyers Leonard 3/30

      This is what Phil SHOULD be doing with the cap space, taking on bad contracts to acquire assets. This might be a nice opportunity here to do just that.

    37. Jowles – chill out man. Its just my prediction. You don’t need to be an asshat about it.

      I’m just going off Durant’s history. He came up short in game 7 last year when it mattered the most. Its happened in past playoff series too when he’s faced teams that were more experienced.

      I find it funny that you think psychology plays absolutely no part in basketball especially in a playoff series and at the end of games. That its all just statistics and everything returning to the mean. Returning to the mean doesn’t explain WHY something returns to the mean. So if Durant is super hot in games one through three but goes cold in games 6 and 7, you would say well he just returned to the mean. But the reason WHY he returned to the mean could be because he got the jitters.

      And yes, I love making bold predictions. We’re not talking about politics so none of it matters ultimately anyways, which is why I can be wrong and not give a shit. :)

    38. i’m guessing if portland wants #8 they will need to give up all of those picks….

      i think #20 or 26 is gettable if we’re willing to take back evan turner…. if mo harkless is available then we should really try to get a package together for him also..

    39. Even 2 years ago Cleveland was in the series and that’s with Dellavedova and Mozgov playing heavy minutes. Unless Green can stop LeBron (he can’t) it’s Caves in 6.

    40. The report indicated that the Knicks are looking to hold onto the 8 pick so I figure we’re in conversation for a salary dump/swap for more useful players

    41. After leading the series 3-1, it is now game 7 of the 2017 NBA Finals. Cleveland has again won games 5 and 6 to force a game 7. GSW leads most of game 7 but in the final ten minutes Cleveland storms back and takes the lead with about 3 minutes left. GSW’s coach Jowles calls a time out.

      Jowles: Don’t worry, guys. With the addition of Durant our offensive efficiency has improved from last year and our defensive rating is better this year than last year. There’s nothing to worry about! Just keep doing what you’re doing.”

    42. Leonard could still be a useful backup big and who knows, Noah may never really be able to play more than a few more games. Crabbe can shoot threes if nothing else. Doesn’t seem worth it for Justin Jackson, but I’d roll the dice on Harry Giles.

    43. Just realized that we can absorb Turner’s/Crabbe’s salary straight up if we renounce Rose’s 30m cap hold (leaving about 20m in free space)

      According to Blazers edge (the Portland version of p&t) the nets are looking to absorb salary from Portland too.

    44. We can’t do Lee for Turner straight up I think, unless we renounce Rose and then trade Lee for Turner with Turner taking up some cap room due to salaries not matching.but there may be some intervening rules there

    45. @DRed

      I’d like to see if we could get Vonleh in any deal with them. I thought he showed growth last year after the ASB.

    46. RE: Finals
      LeBron will make it interesting being the best player on the planet, but I got the Dubs in 5. I am rooting for LeBron to get another ring, but I just cant see the Cavs beating this Dubs squad. They have enough firepower to afford to focus on defense when they need to. That’s the difference to me. Actually, it’s KD playing defense that’s the key. Not that KD’s a great defender, but you add an even longer athlete with quickness in KD to a defense that already has several long athletes who play defense. Length is a great deterrent to any offense in basketball. On top of that, most of those guys’ hoop IQ is pretty high. That’s a lethal combination. I will say this though: Kyrie is in Uncle Drew mode so whoever guards him is gonna have a huge problem lol. Gonna be a fun series..I can’t wait.

      RE: Knicks
      F it man..my final opinion is we should keep Melo. If Phil manages to get a strong PG this offseason, keeping Melo won’t be so bad. For one, he’s still a very good to great scorer and that helps the young guys find a spot with less pressure- so he has his uses for this team. Secondly- and this is the biggest reason- Phil is most likely gonna have to make a deal similar to the JR/Shump trade considering the torpedoing of Melo’s trade value. And when I say similar, I don’t mean a little cap space and marginal player similar. I mean he’s gonna have to take back much less value than Melo is worth to the Knicks. I want a rebuild, but not a Sacramento Kings or Brooklyn Nets style rebuild.

    47. I don’t think they want Lee. I think it’s Myers Leonard and a pick for Kuz, KOQ and a pick. I dont’ think any of the other salaries match up.

    48. I think the Warriors win in six after they move Klay Thompson to the bench in game 4. Klay will then begin to erupt and change the dynamics of the series.

    49. Re blazers – all indications are they want to dump salary/tax and are willing to attach a pick.

      So it would be at least one of Crabbe, Turner, harkless or Leonard plus a pick for as little as we can give in return. Presumably which pick depends on which player/contract – ie if it’s Turner it better be a higher pick!

      In terms of ‘can we do it’ we can if they pick for us, we renounce rose and finalise the deal on 1 July. As long as no S&Ta involved we don’t have to wait for the moratorium. Someone yesterday mentioned the cave-wolves deal for love but that was held up for a different reason – having to wait 30 days after wiggins signed his rookie deal to move him. Presumably wouldn’t be an issue for us because we’d be trading for the rights to an unsigned pick.

      So whether they deal with us or NJ or someone else should only come down to which contracts we are willing to take and which pick we want…

      As stated before, I’d do pretty much any version of this deal for a pick because I don’t think our cap space is currently worth much. My only pause is if there’s an outside chance of a Rubio S&T involving rose, I might prefer that to having to renounce rose to clear space to take on a blazers contract.

    50. I hope the Knicks land that 15th pick. We need to come away with someone that will eventually become a high caliber starter. With the 8th pick and the 15th pick we should get at least 1 good player. It also gives us the opportunity to take more of a risky flier on one of them if you have the other.

      At least we know they are active.

    51. If I was the Blazers I would try to trade McCollum, #15th pick, and #20th pick to the Bulls for Butler.

    52. i don’t think salaries necessarily need to match… they can agree to the deal in principle and execute the trade when the knicks can renounce rose….

      there aren’t too many enticing late first rd guys… they are equivalent of decent 2nd rders.. the 2nd rders look pretty strong as a group as well….

      derrick white would be solid… jawun evans is more 2nd rd material but maybe a decent gamble with a late first… i’d feel better about two early 2nds than a late first in this draft….

    53. This subjective trade has the potential, if Melo’s involved, to be a blockbuster.

    54. I’ll take GS in 5. They should have won last year, so they have a revenge factor of sorts and may be extra motivated to try to sweep or something this year. Plus, Durant’s got to move the needle some. Of course, now that I’ve predicted this, it is sure not to happen.

      The Cavs are just one Lebron sprain away from oblivion.

      It would be very entertaining, though, to have GS choke again. I wonder what their offseason would be like.

      I’d take Turner and the 15th pick for Lee. The Knicks lose some serious shooting there, but the pick would be worth it. I’d rather have Crabbe, though.

    55. Turner does some things well, but the thought of 3 more years of Turner and Noah at those salaries is a little tough for me to swallow, even for another 1st round pick. Turner is pretty dreadful as a scorer. That would be 2 large bad contracts for 3 years.

    56. @62 Agreed, but the Knicks aren’t winning anything in the next 3 years, anyways. Another first rounder, in a deep draft, gives a chance to build on KP and Willy with 2 more good, young players. Also, I think it might help the soft tank this year that could see the Knicks in the lower half of the lottery next year to get another piece.

      If the Turner deal were to go down, the Knicks would surely want Frank N or Monk at #8 because of their shooting. I’d prefer Frank N in that case b/c of his defensive upside. You can gamble a bit there with another first and two seconds still on the board.

    57. Turner and Noah will be the two worst contracts in the league but I would do it for the 15th pick.

    58. I really don’t think there’s any way a deal involves Lee. The blazers are doing this to cut salary so presumably what they want in return is space…

    59. Turner and Noah will be the two worst contracts in the league but I would do it for the 15th pick.

      There have also been rumors that Phil likes Turner, but yikes that contract makes me queasy.

    60. It would be great to grab another first round pick. I’m all for taking a heavy contract back and helping next year’s tank in the process. We might end up with a squad to cheer for after the next 3 years.

    61. The idea of adding Turner PLUS a #1 pick for a bag of rocks would be the kind of heist that only a genius like Phil Jackson could pull off. Let’s cross our fingers that the leak doesn’t ruin things.

    62. If we have 8 or 9 players under rookie contracts then we can carry a couple of higher contracts too. Especially if we rid ourselves of Melo. This team is well on the road to greatness folks. Keep your chins high.

    63. I don’t understand Portland. Does Paul Allen need money… I think not. He needs better players and the draft is the way to get them….unless Me7o is part of this….

    64. Turner for Lee means we’re taking on about 5 million more in salary per year-Portland probably would want to save more. I’m not sure if Lee being better than Turner would be enough to sway them, but that would be a good deal for us

    65. I want gsw to win the series.
      I want KD to get his ring.
      Hope the warriors is strong enough to hold king james.
      King James is like a superhero against the villains.
      The thought of Harrison the brick Barnes was replaced by KD is almost a sure win for the warriors.
      Warriors should win the first two games and take it from there, they can’t give cavs the momentum to get 1 of the first two games.

    66. Turner for Lee means we’re taking on about 5 million more in salary per year-Portland probably would want to save more. I’m not sure if Lee being better than Turner would be enough to sway them, but that would be a good deal for us

      We could possibly absorb Turner with just cap space, and I dont think Portland is interested in Lee. Perhaps for KOQ?

      BTW, i would say Warriors in 5. What happened last year was very unlikely, and GSW lost Bogut and Green for key games at the position they had the hardest time to replace. Now they have added Durant, and I dont see the same happening again.

    67. RE Turner to Portland. Yeah, they’d probably rather just dump him somewhere (NJ?) with little to no contracts coming back.

      However, taking on Lee does reduce their $ a bit, and Lee might be easier for them to turn around and trade elsewhere. That’s where a 3rd team could come in to play.

    68. I don’t think that we’re trading Lee to Portland because of fit not to mention we’d be giving up the best player while taking on salary. Lee is beloved and a keeper I believe unless he goes for Rubio.

    69. Could the Knicks just take back most of their trash for all their picks if they renounce Rose?
      Knicks
      Lee
      Kuz
      O’Quinn
      #44 pick
      #58 pick

      for

      Blazers

      Turner
      Leonard
      Aminu
      #15 pick
      #20 pick

    70. Mo Harkless and a first round pick for a salary dump? Sign me up yesterday. I already have a soft spot for New York born basketball players, but this guy has a .570 TS% and he’s only 24 this year.

    71. Looks like the Lakers are already trying to dump Clarkson, too. So many bad contracts in the league right now.

    72. @78 I don’t think that we’re giving up Lee and Kuz in that trade. Their motivation is cap reduction. Ours is draft picks. We take salary (Turner or Harkless) and they give us a pick. There’s no reason to include Lee in this trade.

    73. @79 I just hope that Begley’s leak doesn’t ruin a good thing here.

    74. I mean… harkless is like the only one of those blazers contracts that is halfway not awful. If the cost to acquire another pick is to take him that would be a total heist…

    75. KOQ for Turner and the 15th pick, nets the Knicks a pick, obviously, but also gets Portland under the tax threshold even when counting the cap hits of the 20th and 26th picks. They’d just to waive the non-guaranteed deals for Ezeli, Connaughton and Quarterman.

    76. I’ve been suggesting Clarkson as a more likely trade target than Russell for the Lakers. They are probably going to draft a point guard, so he will be superfluous. I think hes just OK, and probably fully paid, but if we get a good deal, I’m not averse to it. He is about to turn 25.

    77. Clarkson is actually really bad

      Portland has way more assets

    78. No matter which team wins this series it will remind me of a quote by Gordon Gekko in Wall St.

      “Mixed emotions, buddy. Like Larry Wildman going off a cliff in my new Maserati.”

    79. If we are going to take on a bad contract from Portland, I’m calling BS on giving them back anything. Why should we give up any asset at all to take on a bad contact? You pay us or go to hell. #maketheKnicksgreatagain

    80. I agree, i’d much rather get picks from Portland. The Lakers are very unlikely to throw in picks, so we would just get an unimpressive point guard from them. That’s still better than no point guard though. Think of it this way, he’s probably better than Grant. If the Lakers wanted very little, say Kuz or a second round pick to take his sakary off their books, would you do it?

    81. No way are they giving a 1 to take Harkless, his contract is far from terrible. It will have to be Turner. And that will be painful to watch, but probably a good idea. If we field a lineup that includes Noah, Turner and WHG, coach Kurt can finally become the defensive guru that Phil and Charley always knew he was. At least in practice.

      Warriors in five.

    82. No way are they giving a 1 to take Harkless, his contract is far from terrible. It will have to be Turner.

      I tend to agree, but I think I’d rather have Crabbe and a #1 than Turner.

      I have mixed feelings about Turner. I was lukewarm about him when it was rumored that the Knicks had interest. I lost interest at the price. But my opinion of him has fallen since then. That’s a lot of money for a guy that can’t score, and when he does score, it’s inefficiently. It’s no lock we are going to get a good enough player at #15 to suffer through that contract.

    83. The thing about Turner is that he could be quite valuable as an expiring contract in his final year, and we’re not going to be good until 2020 anyway. But yeesh, it’s gonna be harder to watch Turner play than it is to watch Noah languish on the bench for 60 games.

      The finals are looking good tho.

    84. Right now, Harkless is the only name being mentioned in rumors. Not that that means much, but he’s actually a useful player. I’ve read that he is owed 4 years and $40 million. Not many teams may want to add a guy on a 4 year deal.

      I’d be shocked and overjoyed if the Blazers would give the #15 pick to dump his salary. Maybe they’d do the #25 pick for that? Maybe they are in serious dump mode and are looking to shed 2 contracts, not just 1? Dump Turner to NJ and Moe to the Knicks?

      If the Knicks were to add Harkless, that may suggest that Phil is confident that Melo is a goner. Or, maybe he’s got someone in line to take LT? LT’s recent public comments in support of Melo might have made him a persona non grata.

    85. Harkless is actually good so getting a first rounder to get a player thats youngish and produces commensurate to his contract would be the best trade we’ve made perhaps even since Dolan took helm.

    86. Pretty great start.

      I have always believed players pretty much are who they are no matter who their teammates are. But there is no doubt in my.mind that Jevale McGee would be a disaster as a Knick. Great start for him too.

    87. If the Knicks were to add Harkless, that may suggest that Phil is confident that Melo is a goner. Or, maybe he’s got someone in line to take LT? LT’s recent public comments in support of Melo might have made him a persona non grata.

      You would probably be hard pressed to find any Knicks players not supporting Melo, so I don’t think that’s much of an issue re: LT. The Harkless contract isn’t great, but he is at least useful. Harkless and the #20 wouldn’t be too unrealistic.

    88. Durants gonna get 5 open dunks a game im sure

    89. 38 points in the paint so far, mostly on dunks. And we’re in the 2nd quarter.

    90. Watching Durant wants the Knicks to get every extra pick they can just to move up t get Isaac. Even if he is just 2/3 the player Durant is on offense I would be cool with him given his defensive potential.

    91. GS seemed to dominate in every respect, even got some favorable calls by the refs and are still only up by 8 at the half. The Cavs should be encouraged by that.

    92. I am not a big believer in pace as an explanation for anything but I can’t for the life of me figure out why the Cavs are trying to beat GS at their own game

    93. No way the Cavs beat the Warriors 4 out of 7 games. Golden State has too much ammo.

    94. Just imagine how bad this could look if GSW moved the ball like the Celtics.

    95. I will say that this is just the 1st game so let’s not overreact at what GSW is doing.

    96. Wild thought: what if the NBA eliminated the corner 3?

    97. People are going to way overreact to this beat down. Cleveland played horribly and will make adjustments. Not saying they’ll win the series, but this is just one game.

    98. Yeah I still stand by my prediction.

      I just think 3s are a tinnyyyyy bit too strong right now and you either need to extend the range for what counts as a 3 or get rid of corner 3s

    99. Of all of the potential draftees, who would be able to thrive in this game? Malik Monk?

    100. 20 turnovers by the Cavs, only 4 by the Warriors. Hard to win with numbers like that.

    101. No way are they giving a 1 to take Harkless, his contract is far from terrible. It will have to be Turner. And that will be painful to watch, but probably a good idea. If we field a lineup that includes Noah, Turner and WHG, coach Kurt can finally become the defensive guru that Phil and Charley always knew he was. At least in practice.

      It’s so weird that Harkless’ name is the only being thrown out there, so we have no clue what the hell is going on with this trade. :) Since, as you noted, there’s no way that they’re giving the Knicks a first rounder just to take Harkless, so….uhmm….huh? What is going on?!? So confusing!!

    102. Monk’s lights out shooting and great athleticism would allow him to do well in a game like we just saw. I have my doubts if some of the others would do as well.

    103. I just think 3s are a tinnyyyyy bit too strong right now and you either need to extend the range for what counts as a 3 or get rid of corner 3s

      But it spaces the floor, meaning more drives and high-flying dunks. You can’t take away the corner three. Too much fun.

    104. The Warriors weren’t even playing at their full capacity considering the games Klay and Dray had.

      This series will be short and ugly.

    105. But Durant doesn’t have mental toughness!

    106. Kevin Durant on Harrison Barnes role and cavs defending him like he is Barnes.
      To be honest I prefer Durant over lebron and I am please to watch KD had a better game vs lebron. Whew, when will we have players that can be considered league best. Ewing is our last and that’s 2 decades ago.

    107. People are going to way overreact to this beat down. Cleveland played horribly and will make adjustments. Not saying they’ll win the series, but this is just one game.

      Totally. I also thought that the Warriors were going to win, but when I said that, I was figuring that there would be at least one or two blowouts in the series one way or the other. It’s not a big deal either way. All it really means is that the Warriors are 1 game closer to the title. That’s all (and that IS significant, of course).

    108. The Warriors weren’t even playing Warriors basketball in the first half. They were going straight to the basket and they (really only Curry and KD) opened up from 3 and they blew it open in the 3rd quarter.

      If Klay Thompson remembers how to shoot and if Draymond can finish more of his opportunities? It gets worse. If Javale McGee can somehow play 15 minutes instead of 5? Look out.

    109. I’m surprised nobody called a sweep. Margin of victory in the playoffs for GSW is absurd. Tonight was just another day at the office.

    110. M E N T A L T O U G H N E S S

      P S Y C H O L O G Y

      N A R R A T I V E

      I’m now pulling for GSW even more, if only to make the Kevin Durant armchair psychology stuff go away forever.

    111. Winning a title after joining a 73 win team isn’t going to make that go away unless Cleveland is able to put them under some pressure in this series

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