Knicks Morning News (2017.05.08)

  • [NYDN] Porzingis says Twitter account was hacked with ‘LA Clippers’ post
    (Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:39:39 AM)

    Porzingis may be ticked off with the Knicks, but he says the cryptic tweet that was shared from his account was not of his own doing.

  • [NYPost] Kristaps Porzingis’ defense: I don’t even use that emoji
    (Sunday, May 07, 2017 6:20:08 AM)

    Kristaps Porzingis confirmed it wasn’t he who issued a loving tweet to the Clippers late Saturday night. Sunday afternoon, Porzingis tweeted that his account “was hacked” and he “alerted twitter and they are looking into the incident.” “I don’t even use that emoji smiley face,” Porzingis laughed. Earlier, a source said Porzingis’ handlers are investigating the…

  • [SNY Knicks] Porzingis tweets about Clippers, rep says he was hacked
    (Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:05:43 AM)

    A tweet was released from Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis’ twitter account on Saturday night that referenced the Los Angeles Clippers.

  • [NY Newsday] Kristaps Porzingis tweets Twitter account was hacked when ‘LA Clippers’ post was made
    (Sunday, May 07, 2017 9:15:18 PM)

    Kristaps Porzingis says his official Twitter account was hacked and that he never tweeted anything about the Los Angeles Clippers.

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: Cleveland Cavaliers Finish Another Playoff Sweep, Earning More Precious Rest
    (Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:16:52 PM)

    The defending N.B.A. champions looked mortal late in the regular season, but their win over the Toronto Raptors on Sunday made them 8-0 in the postseason.

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    63 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2017.05.08)”

    1. I like how today’s younger generation uses twitter emojis as personal signatures. Kris actually uses emojis as proof of identity theft. LOL.

    2. this stuff really happens. a few years ago, someone hacked my Knickerblogger account and posted optimistic things about the Bargnani trade.

    3. KP’s an entitled whiny biatch whose soft game only THIS GUY could like. He won’t do it but Phil needs to clean house and go all young.

      Trade 1
      Lakers: KP
      Knicks: D’Angelo and 2017 Laker 1-3 pick

      Trade 2
      Boston: KP/KOQ/Lee/Kuz
      Knicks: Nets 2017 and 2018 picks/Boston 2018 pick/Brown/Rozier/Zeller

    4. @4 I’m reticent to trade KP at this point because I believe that this will be his breakout season. Just remove the Melo cancer.
      Best wishes from Firenze.

    5. I said it before the season started the KP was a luxury we couldn’t afford to keep.

    6. For example, the only player who have more value to the warriors ober KD is KP, maybe, because of his youth.

      They should sign and trade KD to us for KP , give the other teams a shot by making your future brighter…. that would be my sales pitch!

    7. He won’t do it but Phil needs to clean house and go all young.

      Porzingis is 21.

    8. this stuff really happens. a few years ago, someone hacked my Knickerblogger account and posted optimistic things about the Bargnani trade.

      Hah, nice.

    9. Trade 2
      Boston: KP/KOQ/Lee/Kuz
      Knicks: Nets 2017 and 2018 picks/Boston 2018 pick/Brown/Rozier/Zeller

      Hmm, I don’t think we’re getting back enough, how about Thomas and Bradley also? I think Ainge would be all over that.

    10. a few years ago, someone hacked my Knickerblogger account and posted optimistic things about the Bargnani trade.

      Hmm, I don’t think we’re getting back enough, how about Thomas and Bradley also? I think Ainge would be all over that.

      lol x2

    11. Um, so how about we just not trade our 7’3″ unicorn, and instead fix the steaming pile of dung that is the culture of this God-forsaken franchise?

      i don’t even want to think about trading KP. Fix the freaking problem. He is not the problem.

      Ok.

      Re: the draft – I think we will end up with Ntilikina, although I just thought of a comp that is a little scary, and not in necessarily a good way. Inconsistent jumper. Unable to finish around rim. Reputation as a lockdown defender who is 6’5″ with a 6’9″-6’10″ish wingspan. Not really a point guard but I play one on TV sometimes. Who am I?

      hint: I was traded along with JR Smith for a 2nd round draft pick.

    12. I can see the shump comparison but frank looks to have better mechanics on his jumper and overall game. He seems very much under control for a 19 year old in the brief footage I’ve seen.

    13. Ntilikina actually shoots the 3 well, passes extremely well, penetrates a bit below average but does it, and is absolutely a good defender. I don’t see the comp at all.

    14. He’s also a lot less athletic than Shump, which was why we thought he had such great upside.

      Please, let’s not make out KP to be the enemy here, he’s actually right to be pissed about the team he is held hostage to under the current CBA. He’s also 21, and I remember players in the 90’s assaulting players/fans/citizens in the streets. WHO CARES? Let’s focus our negativity on the big 3, you know, Phil, Dolan, and Melo.

    15. KP was not right to miss the exit meeting. That is a big red flag that shouldn’t be discounted. The tweets are nonsensical but the exit meeting discusses his past and future performance issues. If this cannot be resolved then maybe he should be traded while his value is high.

    16. The team exit meeting was not required and the Knicks have since then sent a trainer with KP to Europe to work with him this summer. I believe him that his Twitter was hacked…i.e., one of his buddies picked up his phone and tweeted that as a joke.

    17. I said he was right to be pissed about the team, not that he was right to miss a meeting. That said, if Phil was just gonna call KP out on taking too many 3’s, maybe it’s best he missed it…

    18. Phil established that there’s no punishment for skipping a game and not even bothering to tell anybody where you are. But let’s trade the 21-year old with tremendous upside because he skipped a meeting. A meeting that no doubt was going to go like this:

      “So Kristaps, we want to talk about this past season. For starters, triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle. Also, we feel that triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle triangle. Kurt, is there anything you’d like to add?”

      “TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME, KID?!?!? TRIANGLE! TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE…”

      (repeat for 45 minutes)

    19. Please, let’s not make out KP to be the enemy here, he’s actually right to be pissed about the team he is held hostage to under the current CBA.

      Hostage??? is he working for “slave wages”, too? Does poor baby need a safe space somewhere?

      Look, the guy could have stayed in Europe if he didn’t want to be surgically attached at the hip to the team that drafted him. He knew what the deal was in the NBA when he entered the draft. Stop whining and to quote Vito Corleone , “Act like a man!”

      Personally I believe KP to be part of the long term solution, but LeBron James, he aint. He’s been a league average player for 2 years with an ass load of potential. If there is a deal out there for him with multiple high lottery picks, the Knicks would be stupid not to move him. They need multiple excellent all around players. He isn’t untouchable.

    20. Oh shush, let’s not argue that the NBA doesn’t have a monopoly on professional basketball, and that players really have no financial choice but to stick with their acquiring teams. I know they make tons of dough, but owners make more.

      All that aside, I don’t care. KP isn’t in the top 100 issues with this team, and it’s insanity to think he should be traded (obviously anyone can be traded, but the deal has to be that good).

    21. @2 – funny. I think that may have happened to me too…
      KP not coming off well or playing up to expectations, but trading him now would be epically stupid ( and ohhh so Knicksy). They will never build a winning team by constantly getting rid of their young players (KP is 21) and changing the majority of the team EVERY YEAR. Basketball is a team game and the best teams have a core that has played together for several years and built up some chemistry and a style of play on offense and defense. They also will never be good until they get competent point guard play. If they don’t draft one they should try to resurrect the Rubio deal with Minnesota. Why they didn’t make the trade of Rose for Rubio when they had the chance is beyond stupid.

    22. Phil really needs to can Kurt Rambis, but he won’t. Rambis is incompetent, and he’s a grade A asshole to boot. The players clearly don’t like him and tune him out. And I don’t blame them! Rambis has never been a successful coach and the only reason he’s around in the first place is that he’s Phil Jackson’s lickspittle. Hornacek is just stuck with the fucking guy and has to try to make all of this dysfunction work somehow.

      If you believe in Hornacek, let him coach the damn team. Kurt Rambis isn’t helping anything. He’s muddying the coaching situation and killing the team chemistry, and the defense he is supposed to be coaching SUCKED. Rambis is a walking, breathing, bespectacled avatar of this team’s poor management.

    23. if the Knicks folded this board would have an easy transition into one of those peak oil alarmist clubs that meets at Starbucks but also complains about newfangled hipster bs like Starbucks

    24. Tony Wroten has hacked into my KB account on numerous occasions.
      Yeah, that’s it.

    25. @23

      “I have lived my life as best I could, not knowing its purpose, but drawn forward like a moth to a distant moon; and here at last, I discover a strange truth. That I am only a conduit, for a message that eludes my understanding.”
      Ezio Auditore da Firenze on his role as “the Prophet”, 1512.

    26. LOL are people really this crazy to propose trading KP over a skipped meeting and a tweet? Ya’ll are lost.

    27. I personally am not proposing trading KP over anything he did. But I sure as hell would listen to offers that include top 3 picks in this or next year’s draft.

      There is a chance that right now we are looking at Porzingis’ maximum value. I hope not, but it might be.

    28. Porzingis is 21.

      D’Angelo, Laker pick, Nets picks, Boston pick, Brown, Rozier < KP, KOQ, Lee, Kuz

      are people really this crazy to propose trading KP over a skipped meeting and a tweet? Ya’ll are lost.

      This is now a pattern. Remember how his group told 76ers not to draft him? Now missing a meeting and whaaa I want CP3 throwing me lobs whaaaaaa. This guy could take QO and leave us in the lurch if team’s future isn’t bright in a couple of years.

      Hmm, I don’t think we’re getting back enough, how about Thomas and Bradley also? I think Ainge would be all over that.

      I know you’re being facetious but Ainge might decide KP is the best balance between “win now” but not at complete expense of future. If he thinks KP will breakout, then timing is perfect and he might give up Nets 2017 and 2018 picks. We attach KOQ/Lee/Kuz to deal to obtain Brown/Rozier/Boston 2018 pick.

    29. If Phil trades Porzingis it’s going to be for some stupid ass win-now player who was kind of good five years ago but is entering his decline phase. Phil is for damn sure not trading the kid for some developmental pieces who aren’t going to be any good until after Phil is gone. Come on now, people.

    30. Having spent time on this blog I’ve often wondered why people accuse Knicks fans of being too impatient for a rebuild – people here seem generally open to the requirements of a long-term team building strategy…

      Then I read this thread.

      Here are the year two stats of a bunch of players who between them have 54AS appearances, 6 titles and 2 MVP awards.

      Lamarus Aldridge: 17.8ppg/7.6rpg/1.2bpg/2.8apg/18.5PER/.532TS%/25.3usg/.118WS/48.
      Pau: 19.0/8.8/1.8/2.8. 20.7/.570/24.1/.133
      Marc Gasol: 14.6/9.3/1.6/2.4. 19.3/.617/16.9/.164
      Dirk: 17.5/6.5/0.8/2.5. 17.5/.564/21.2/.132
      Bosh: 16.8/8.9/1.4/1.9. 17.5/.547/21.7/.108
      Garnett: 17/8/2.1/3.1. 18.2/.537/21.3/.116
      Giannis: 12.7/6.7/1/2.6. 14.8/.552/19.6/.117

      PORZINGIS: 18.2/7.2/2.0/1.5. 17.4/.546/24.6/.102.

      So KP is mid-table on counting stats, and towards the bottom end on some advanced stats, but still within range. And for all of the above players, only Garnett has ever recorded more blocks per game in a season than KP did this year. KP’s three-point performance last year was far ahead of most of these guys in their early careers on both % and number of attempts.

      In addition, of the top three picks in each draft since 2011, only four players have achieved a PER higher than Kristpas within their first two seasons – Kyrie, Davis, KAT and Embiid.

      Yes, his stamina and health are questions. Yes, he levelled off after a red-hot start. But there is really no performance-based reason to trade him unless you get totally, totally blown away by an offer – i.e. WAY more blown away than D’Angelo and a number 3 pick.

      He is frustrated because he’s a competitor and he wants to win. And he’s being a bit immature in handling it. But we’re all on Melo all the time because he seems uninterested in winning and won’t force the issue to move.

      So yeah, I’m beginning to see the ‘NY fans are impatient’ thing…

    31. KP may or may not be throwing a hissyfit but he doesn’t really have that much leverage. If KP takes the QO, then you trade him to wherever you want. He will be a 5th year player and he will be due a huge pile of money, which the Knicks pretty much have to give him either way.

      If by then he has proven himself worthy of that contract, teams will fight to acquire him and the Knicks should be able to extract significant value from that trade.

      If he isn’t worth the contract but the wheels haven’t fallen off, you can still probably get a haul for him, plus you don’t have to pay him more than he is worth.

      I’m not sure it’s a huge problem. The only thing that can go wrong with KP from a Knicks perspective is injury or ineffectiveness.

    32. Does anybody really trust Phil Jackson to make a trade that involves sending out Porzingis? How much more does the guy have to demonstrate that he does not have a good grasp of player valuation? I personally want Phil to make as few roster moves as possible. If he avoids long-term blunders for the next two offseasons I’ll be happy. I don’t need to see Big Chief Triangle do anything drastic.

    33. LOL are people really this crazy to propose trading KP over a skipped meeting and a tweet? Ya’ll are lost.

      I’d hate trading KP other than maybe for the crazy package Zanzibar is dreaming about. But unicorn or not he should be disciplined.

    34. It’s a good thing we already have melo, or else the knicks would be looking to deal KP and/or their #1 for him.

      Here’s another positive. Imagine if Phil succeeded in signing Monroe. In addition to being in Iso hell, we’d have to watch Monroe plod around for another cpl of years as everyone else continued to get smaller and faster.

    35. This whole rebuilding young idea is a scam. It won’t work. I say we clean house of anyone under 28 and all our draft picks and go for the win next year with all veterans. #hackedaccount

    36. To the guy that keeps saying that we should trade KP for 4 #1s AND 2 players who went top 4 the last 2 years, please, I beg you, just stop it already. This is supposed to be a reasonably sensible place. Go to posting and toasting or a YouTube comment section with that.

    37. To the guy that keeps saying that we should trade KP for 4 #1s AND 2 players who went top 4 the last 2 years, please, I beg you, just stop it already. This is supposed to be a reasonably sensible place. Go to posting and toasting or a YouTube comment section with that.

      Thank you.

    38. To the guy that keeps saying that we should trade KP for 4 #1s AND 2 players who went top 4 the last 2 years, please, I beg you, just stop it already. This is supposed to be a reasonably sensible place. Go to posting and toasting or a YouTube comment section with that.

      You realize you’re mixing trades right? I did put Trade 1 in bold and Trade 2 in bold. I didn’t realize some people would have difficulty understanding that you couldn’t trade KP to BOTH the Lakers and Celtics at the same time. So your logic is that Lakers wouldn’t do the trade because Russell was a #2 pick? That’s odd because someone took the opposite position here, namely that we should never do it because it’s not enough from NYK perspective.

      I expect some people might think Boston trade is not realistic. But break it down this way. It’s KP for Nets 2017 and 2018 picks. Ainge might do that depending on his view of KP and Boston’s current situation. The 2017 and 2018 picks are not gonna help Boston now and their two key players are not exactly young. KP, after two years, is a guy whose floor is above average and therefore should be productive in the present and the future. The second part of that trade is KOQ/Lee for Brown/Rozier/Boston 2018 pick. Yes we might have to settle for 2 of those 3 but the idea was to take this opportunity to move KOQ and Lee. Keep in mind Rozier hasn’t played well in his first 2 years and Brown went in a very weak draft and had a meh first year. The Boston 2018 pick would likely be in the 20-30 range. KOQ and Lee would have immediate value to a team looking to make some noise in the short-term. I’d still do the trade if it were Brown and Rozier or 2018 pick.

      BTW weren’t you one of the posters who had Ainge trading for Melo? Now that’s ridiculous.

    39. On this date 46 years ago, Willis Reed limped out and inspired Clyde and the Knicks to a championship. Hope some of you younger folk get to experience at least a championship game.

    40. I don’t think KP’s account was hacked. As Jason Concepcion posited, it was most likely meant as a DM for a young lady residing in the greater LA area.

    41. @23

      “I have lived my life as best I could, not knowing its purpose, but drawn forward like a moth to a distant moon; and here at last, I discover a strange truth. That I am only a conduit, for a message that eludes my understanding.”
      Ezio Auditore da Firenze on his role as “the Prophet”, 1512.

      Ha!

    42. D’Angelo, Laker pick, Nets picks, Boston pick, Brown, Rozier < KP, KOQ, Lee, Kuz

      @44. My apologies for not being able to make sense of the above.

    43. Rudy Gay opting out and will be a free agent. Phil, you know you want him! Gay must be a Knick at some point in his carer. It’s destiny!

    44. Rudy Gay opting out and will be a free agent. Phil, you know you want him! Gay must be a Knick at some point in his carer. It’s destiny!

      You pair him up with Evan Turner and now you’ve really got something good going

    45. D’Angelo, Laker pick, Nets picks, Boston pick, Brown, Rozier < KP, KOQ, Lee, Kuz

      @44. My apologies for not being able to make sense of the above.

      In my original post I wrote: He won’t do it but Phil needs to clean house and go all young. That was my response to DRed that all of the players/picks in the Laker and Boston trades are younger than NYK players and was obviously more relevant to Celtics deal.

      I don’t think KP will be traded but the Celtics are an obvious juicy target if they’re really interested in KP. The ideal for Ainge would be to find an unhappy relatively young star player who a team has to trade but none of those appear to exist at present who would be a game changer for Boston. Isiah’s 28yo and Horford’s 30 so their two 2018 picks don’t really fit that timetable and Nets top 4 2017 pick could very well be a bust or average player. KP’s got a high floor and high ceiling which makes him less risky relative to 2017 and 2018 Nets picks. His defense alone could help the Celtics right away.

      When I said “attach” KOQ/Lee to deal, I meant walk away from trade if Ainge refuses to take KOQ and/or Lee for some combination of Brown/Rozier/Boston 2018 pick. KOQ, in particular, is 27yo and hitting his peak (excellent advanced stats which Ainge notices) so should have some value to Celtics versus Brown/Rozier/2018 pick given their situation.

      Is there anyone here who wouldn’t do a KP/KOQ trade for Nets’ 2017 and 2018 picks and Jaylen Brown? If not, would your opinion change if Lee were also included in deal for Rozier OR Boston 2018 pick?

    46. Here’s another positive. Imagine if Phil succeeded in signing Monroe. In addition to being in Iso hell, we’d have to watch Monroe plod around for another cpl of years as everyone else continued to get smaller and faster.

      That would have been a positive but Phil messed that up when he made the Rose trade and then signed Noah. So Phil dodge a bullet when Monroe elected not to come to NY, despite him being Phil’s first choice, but Phil then goes and shoots himself in the foot twice.

      But hey at least we get to see Noah taste in suits as he sits on the bench encouraging his teammates.

    47. Here’s another positive. Imagine if Phil succeeded in signing Monroe.

      So Phil dodge a bullet when Monroe elected not to come to NY

      Don’t know about that. Monroe’s WS/48 (1.47), BPM (1.9) and RPM (1.56) this year > Lopez’s NYK WS/48 (.126) BPM (1.4) and RPM(.02). Maybe Triangle works since Monroe is right out of central casting for a team looking for a rare Triangle-certified player. And maybe Chicago doesn’t want Monroe in Rose trade because of Monroe’s opt out which means maybe Phil doesn’t sign Noah.

      But the scariest part is that Monroe took the QO and walked. Pistons received no value. KP doing that in two years when Phil departs would be the cherry on top of Phil’s sh!t sundae.

    48. @45. Thanks Bo Nateman, for reminding me of one of the greatest games i ever saw. The great Willis Reed led the team to victory, hitting his first 2 shots, then Clyde and the rest of the team took over. And here’s hoping you are correct, that this team’s rebirth is somehow, someway, just around the corner.

      And, if I remember correctly, Nate Bowman was the 7th pick in the 1st round of the 1965 draft. Yes, that’s right folks, the 7th pick, providing a small reminder that draft choices are sometimes more valuable BEFORE the draft, depreciating like a new car after leaving the lot after the draft.

    49. Is there anyone here who wouldn’t do a KP/KOQ trade for Nets’ 2017 and 2018 picks and Jaylen Brown? If not, would your opinion change if Lee were also included in deal for Rozier OR Boston 2018 pick?

      I am not interested in trading KP. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. KOQ is on a reasonable contract too. What the Knicks haven’t done in the past is get good young players and keep them. Why should we want to get rid of best young player? In addition, KP is actually a good two way player. Those are hard to get, even with high draft picks. Let’s just draft seventh or so and get another young player with potential.

    50. Yeah I think Monroe would have been a solid signing. He’s not great, but I think his strengths outweigh his weaknesses, and he really would be a good fit in the triangle.

    51. I’ll be home tomorrow. When will they be dropping ping pong balls?
      I’ll miss Venice and Firenze but I miss the Knicks more.
      Ciao!

    52. yay KP for Lakers or Boston…
      is there a way to deal Noah too?
      yay fire Rambis…

    53. Man we would be absolute idiots to trade KP and doing so would only prove how idiotic and short sighted our franchise is, even if its for a top pick or two in this year’s draft and next.

      Cause when we get tired of those players in two years we’ll end up trading them.

      Someone up thread said this but its so true. KP is a TWO WAY PLAYER, something everyone on this blog claims to want so badly. And now we do and he’s only 21 and has 3 years left on his rookie deal and after that will have a very manageable first big contract deal. And we want to trade him bc of a missed meeting at the end of a frustrating year and a mistaken tweet? Seriously?

      Even if KP doesn’t turn into a Dirk/KG hybrid all star who can be the main guy on a championship team he is still worth having. At the very least we have a very good young player who will only get better. Of course I forgot on knickerblogger people advocate the slow rebuild but expect players to have it all figured out in their second year or else they’re a bust. A bird in the hand. Why do you think all of those teams are calling about him? Because they know he’s the real deal.

      Seriously, who in their right mind would want to trade a 7’4″ 21 year old kid who can run the floor, handle the ball, shoot 3’s and actually can play defense?

      If I’m Phil KP is basically untouchable unless a truly ridiculous offer is presented. And that would be 2 lottery picks at least. Is KP worth that? Probably not. But we need to draw a line in the sand. Once KP plays for Latvia this summer and Melo gets traded and we bring in our young guard from the draft to pair with him and truly focus on rebuilding, he will chill out.

    54. Seriously, who in their right mind would want to trade a 7’4? 21 year old kid who can run the floor, handle the ball, shoot 3’s and actually can play defense?

      Not sure I agree with the last part, his defense is pretty bad except when blocking shots as a help defender. And he definitely needs to improve rebounding – a lot.

    55. KP has shown that he can play defense. I didn’t say he was a good defender just that he can play good defense. He is obviously a work in progress but it would be the most Knicks thing in the world to trade him and watch him take the next step on another team.

      I still want to puke every time I watch Ariza bc that dude has been solid his entire career and we traded him away.

    56. Man we would be absolute idiots to trade KP and doing so would only prove how idiotic and short sighted our franchise is, even if its for a top pick or two in this year’s draft and next.

      So it would be idiotic to trade KP even if it is for two top picks in this year’s draft and next, but then you would trade him if the return is…

      KP is basically untouchable unless a truly ridiculous offer is presented. And that would be 2 lottery picks at least.

      Soooo……huh?

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