Knicks Morning News (2017.01.16)

  • [ESPN] Monday’s Knicks News: Changes may be coming after loss to Raptors
    (Monday, January 16, 2017 5:34:43 AM)

    Monday’s Knicks News: Changes may be coming after loss to Raptors

  • [ESPN] Melo: Haven’t considered waiving no-trade clause
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:22:36 PM)

    Melo: Haven’t considered waiving no-trade clause

  • [ESPN] Knicks’ L. Thomas suffers fractured orbital bone
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:58:47 PM)

    Knicks’ L. Thomas suffers fractured orbital bone

  • [SNY Knicks] Anthony on idea Jackson doesn’t want him on Knicks: ‘That’s a conversation we should have’
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 9:33:28 PM)

    New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony addressed the idea that team president Phil Jackson might not want him on the Knicks anymore by saying “that’s a conversation we should have.”

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks fall short against Raptors
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:38:50 PM)

    DeMar DeRozan had 23 points, Norman Powell added 21 and the Toronto Raptors used a dominant third quarter to beat the New York Knicks 116-101 on Sunday.

  • [SNY Knicks] Thomas has orbital bone fracture, concussion-like symptoms
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:43:48 PM)

    Lance Thomas has an orbital bone fracture and is dealing with concussion-like symptoms after taking an elbow to the face in Sunday’s loss to the Raptors, the team announced.

  • [SNY Knicks] Today’s Game: Knicks at Raptors
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:26:56 PM)

    The Knicks take on the Raptors in Toronto on Sunday at 3 p.m.

  • [SNY Knicks] Porzingis out Sunday, to be evaluated for Monday’s game
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:20:11 PM)

    Kristaps Porzigis will miss Sunday’s game at Toronto because of a sore Achilles in his left foot, Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek said.

  • [SNY Knicks] Anthony reportedly went on locker room rant after loss to Sixers
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 9:20:27 AM)

    Following Wednesday’s loss to the 76ers at the buzzer, Carmelo Anthony was so displeased that he went on a rant in the locker room, a source told Frank Isola of the New York Daily News.

  • [NYDN] Jeff Hornacek has diplomatic answer to Rose’s call for better ‘D’
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:30:00 PM)

    Jeff Hornacek seemed to take Derrick Rose’s suggestion that he push the team harder on defense in stride, calling it “typical talk.”

  • [NYDN] Carmelo Anthony says if Knicks don’t want him it’s time to talk
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:23:17 PM)

    Carmelo Anthony revealed on Sunday that if Phil Jackson doesn’t want him in New York “that’s a conversation we should have.”

  • [NYDN] Knicks give no-show performance in 116-101 loss to Raptors
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:34:06 PM)

    TORONTO — The Knicks are halfway to nowhere.

  • [NYDN] Kristaps Porzingis optimistic he’ll return from injury vs. Hawks
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 11:58:07 AM)

    Kristaps Porzingis told reporters “no problema” after going through a workout prior to sitting out Sunday’s game against the Raptors.

  • [NYDN] Jimmer Fredette says Twitter was hacked, not quitting basketball
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:20:28 AM)

    Jimmer Fredette learned Sunday that even in China, a pro athlete can still fall victim to an old-fashioned Twitter hack.

  • [NYPost] Hornacek not sold on Derrick Rose’s ironic crackdown plan
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:36:52 PM)

    TORONTO — Jeff Hornacek seemed defensive — no pun intended — about Derrick Rose revealing his conversation with the Knicks coach in which he told him to get on the players more about their defensive foibles. Hornacek indicated he didn’t see that as the issue. The irony couldn’t have been greater, with Rose only five…

  • [NYPost] Carmelo Anthony: If Phil Jackson wants me gone, let’s talk
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:56:12 PM)

    TORONTO — Carmelo Anthony has no proof Knicks president Phil Jackson wants him gone, but if Jackson does, the Knicks’ star said he’s willing to talk to the Zen Master about his feelings. After another horrendous loss, 116-101 to the Raptors at Air Canada Centre on Sunday, which placed the Knicks at 18-23 at the…

  • [NYPost] Hornacek threatens changes as Knicks get utterly humiliated
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:35:57 PM)

    TORONTO – The Knicks are halfway to hell. Lance Thomas, starting for injured Kristaps Porzingis, took an elbow to the face in the opening two minutes and left for good with concussion-like symptoms and was later diagnosed in an area hospital with a broken orbital bone. The Knicks’ headache and their broken spirit only got…

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: Cavaliers-Warriors Rematch Carries Meaning for Past and Future
    (Monday, January 16, 2017 1:42:09 AM)

    After a thriller on Christmas Day, the Cavaliers end a road trip at Golden State in a game that may provide signs about this year’s finals.

  • [NYTimes] Raptors 116, Knicks 101: Carmelo Anthony Speaks About His Future After Knicks Roll Over
    (Monday, January 16, 2017 5:31:32 AM)

    Anthony responded to an online column, written by a former colleague of the team president Phil Jacksons’s, that said the Knicks had nothing to gain by keeping Anthony on the team.

  • [NYTimes] James Harden’s Triple-Double Helps Rockets Blow by Nets
    (Monday, January 16, 2017 3:29:43 AM)

    Harden recorded his 12th triple-double of the season and the Rockets scored 104 points in the first three quarters as the Nets lost their 10th straight.

  • [NY Newsday] Carmelo Anthony miffed that Phil Jackson might want him out
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:14:24 PM)

    The Knicks are losing, and when that happens the subject of Carmelo Anthony’s future with the team always comes up with fans and media.

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks begin grueling stretch with blowout loss to Raptors
    (Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:52:51 PM)

    The Knicks were blown out by the Raptors, 116-101, at Air Canada Centre.

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    56 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2017.01.16)”

    1. Charlie Rosen aka Phil Jackson puppet wrote this rubbish
      http://www.fanragsports.com/nba/knicks/rosen-whats-going-stumbling-knicks/

      Let’s be real, the unicorn is not going to happen, trying to show boat his only decent pick as GM

      There is a comment in there I think that is also spot on about KP, well I think anyways, and Rambis knows squat

      Rosen worked with Phil in CBA, all of a sudden he is an expert too like Rambis. BTW, Phil’s 11 rings mean nothing as GM, as it requires a different skill set.

      I respect Danny Ainge now even more as he has realised his limitations as coach and resigned, later became a GM.

    2. I want to see more of the lineup that staged our comeback against the Raptors yesterday. They were awesome.

    3. People who mouth off about Phil are really embarrassing themselves with their ignorance.

    4. How many seasons can a team continue to start well with a new roster of vets, and then implode halfway through the season?? And always in such dramatic and public fashion too (Rose missing a game, Rose then second guesses Hornacek, Melo ejected multiple times, Melo discussing trade)

      It’s not we imagined that Rose/Lee/Melo/KP/Noah would be doing THIS badly.

    5. Was listening to Mannix’s podcast interviewing Marks, and Marks said an interesting thing- he can’t see any teams that would make sense to trade Melo. Maybe Boston, Clippers, as usual, but what are they giving? He said Melo was worth three #1’s and star player when he was with the Nets, now definitely less. What a shame.

    6. Melo is untradeable.

      Which team in the NBA is in a position to absorb Melo’s salary plus the 15% trade kicker for a total 30 millions worth of cap space?

      Knicks will have to pay with draft picks / assets in order to get rid of Melo.

      One of Phil Jackson’s masterpieces of sheer ineptitude.

    7. @2

      I’d like to see hornacek swap put the starting 5 for all bench players until they work on defense.
      Start baker, holiday, ndour , kuz, Willy.

    8. I didn’t know about the 15% trade kicker.

      We definitely have to give up something like a pick. That sux

    9. Just read Rosen’s piece. Holy crap. And his fawning over Phil/Triangle without any criticism whatsoever of him shows how much of a Phil tool he is, and I take what he says as if it’s right out of Phil’s mouth. He/Phil is right about a ton of things there:

      Carmelo “resists any offensive game plan that limits his one-on-one adventures. Moreover, his sticky fingers causes whatever ball-and-player movement is in effect to come to a grinding stop. Since Melo has been mostly shooting blanks in the clutch — he was scoreless in the fourth quarter last night — it’s really a dead stop…The only sure thing is that Carmelo Anthony has outlived his usefulness in New York.”

      Rose “has been maddingly inconsistent, plays below par defense and (as Jeff Hornacek has publicly observed) his inability to get to the foul line on his drives leaves the team’s defensive transition extremely vulnerable… It could very well be that his one-season’s rental will not be renewed.” (YES!!)

      Noah “remains an excellent passer, a good rebounder and a positive locker=room presence. But his lateral movement has decreased to the point where he’s not nearly the defender he once was.”

      And on and on, with reasonable analyses of Holiday, Baker, O’quinn, etc. THEN HE GOES OFF THE DEEP END!

      “SASHA VUJACIC needs more playing time…[Hornacek] should have made a firm and full commitment to installing the triangle offense…KURT RAMBIS certainly knows all there is to know about NBA defense (to say nothing about his other areas of expertise). Yet his players must play defense with more passion and savvy than they are doing…PHIL JACKSON has pushed the right buttons, but sometimes wires unaccountably get crossed and a system short-circuits. If his options might be limited, depend on PJ to make whatever adjustments are possible to retool this disappointing ball club. That’s becaue more than having been the most successful coach in NBA history, Jackson is an incredible judge of talentblahblahblah”

    10. Which team in the NBA is in a position to absorb Melo’s salary plus the 15% trade kicker for a total 30 millions worth of cap space?

      Brian, correct me if im wrong but i think the Knicks have to pay the 15% not the receiving team?

    11. Id love to see Melo on the Clippers. I dont know how we could make it work without Blake Griffin tho

    12. It would be Crawford and rivers(which doc won’t do) and then they have no bench…

      With Crawford we have to dump Lee , another loss.
      It’s a lose lose

    13. I’d love to see Melo on the Clippers too. Actually on any team other than ours.

    14. People who mouth off about Phil are really embarrassing themselves with their ignorance.

      Do you really believe all the moronic crap you post here or are you like some sort of parody of a myopic fanboi? It’s really hard to tell.

      The Knicks can still win the 55 games that you predicted if they go 37-4 in the second half.

    15. the very encouraging news is that Melo has started spewing his typical bullshit about the haters and blah blah blah, which means hell rediscover that nasty nagging injury he had a couple of times already when he wanted to quit a season.

      and I’m super happy that Rosen is writing all this crap because it means Melo might get real pissed this time and one of two excellent things will happen, either Melo leaves or Jackson does… I’d rather see Melo go now and Jackson later, but honestly I’m fine either way.

      this is the most hopeful I’ve managed to be about the Knicks in a long time

    16. All this “trade Melo” talk reminds me of the day we traded Ewing away. I mark it as the day that the Knicks slipped down the slippery slope into oblivion. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

      The good news is that the team is so awful right now that a high lottery pick is very much in play. I think we’re sitting at 11 right now but moving down fast.

    17. Knicks receive: Clippers’ 2018 first round pick, Jonas Jerebko, Brice Johnson, Diamond Stone (salary filler)
      Boston receives: J.J. Reddick
      Clippers receive: Carmelo Anthony
      Philly receives: Jamal Crawford, a second from each team

      It’s not perfect. Who knows if three seconds is enough to entice Philly to take on Crawford, and who knows if the Clippers have any actual desire to employ Carmelo Anthony? If the Knicks don’t feel that it’s enough I suppose you could ask for Boston or Brookyln’s 2018 first rounder as well. Seems doubtful though.

      I don’t think Melo is going anywhere because this is the most realistic thing I could dream up and it’s still easy to see one or more of the teams involved saying no. We can hope though!

    18. I root for them to win too. Which is why I don’t like it when incompetent senile hippies are allowed to run the team.

    19. RE: Melo trade

      He still has value around the league, albeit not what it was- that’s a given at age 32. We just won’t get back a great package. Either we get back bad contracts or get back player value of about 5 cents on the dollar. This season, the latter would be acceptable given the youth and injuries on the roster. So..if Melo and Phil have that “talk” and Melo waives his NTC, I think Phil should send him to a contender or team that’s on the cusp (OKC, CHA, WAS, TOR, BOS,LAC) and accept anything with less salaray, No one is gonna give him good draft picks at this point. Maybe a developmental young talent, but not good picks. One thing I’d love to see is Melo to ATL for Milsap and fodder. Once KP is healthy, he and Milsap could start at the 5 and 4 or KOQ and KP could start there and Milsap would provide enough punch on the 2nd unit to withstand Noah as a backup.

    20. Doesn’t Melo have a year left until his player option? Unless someone out there can give us picks/youth for him (unlikely), we should probably hold until he wants out.

      Interesting tidbit from that podcast I mentioned: Phil is unreachable by other GMs. People have to go through Mills with trade ideas or anything, and are not happy about it. Isn’t that incredibly irritating?

    21. Phil has had just one number one draft pick since he took over. He drafted KP with it. We’re still recovering from what preceeded him.

    22. Keep Melo. Convince him to be a “Vinnie Johnson” type scorer and leading candidate for sixth man of the year. Start the younger guys who play defense and play offense within the system (i.e pass), and add KP when he’s healthy.

    23. A smart GM would have seen the mess the Knicks were in, and would have done a proper rebuild. Phil looked at the situation and decided it would be a swell idea to build around Mega Max No Trade Melo’s decline years. The crummy results speak for themselves.

    24. @3 People who mouth off about Phil are really embarrassing themselves with their ignorance.

      Charlie Rosen is that you?

    25. Someone statistically minded may love this analysis of Knicks’ wins vs FGA/FG% per zone (aka how does opponent fg% in each zone translate to wins). I’m not good enough to critique their technique:
      “The Knicks clearly have to make significant improvements to their perimeter and interior defense because opponents are easily getting to the rim and shooting high percentages at the corner. Keep in mind that the Knicks also ranked 27th in field goals made in the restricted area, so their FG% ranking is somewhat misleading. They allow so many shots at the rim that their percentage figure disguises how dreadful the team is defensive in that zone. Essentially, the Knicks aren’t good at defending the highest percentage 2-point shot and the most efficient 3-point shot on the court. “

    26. I keep hearing the “trading Melo is the same thing this franchise did trading Ewing”, and I cannot understand for the life of me how it’s any close.

      the Ewing team had 9 straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs every single one of those years and got to the finals twice, only losing twice in the first round.

      even without Ewing in 2000-2001, the Knicks won 48 games.

      that was a winning team, a perennial playoff contender and in good years a somewhat title contender.

      the Knicks with Melo are nowhere near close anything like that, and they don’t have any talent like Sprewell, Houston, Larry Johnson, Camby, Mark Jackson etc that we had in the last Ewing years.

      maybe trading Ewing was a mistake (and I don’t really think it was; what the Knicks got back was bad, but that team was pretty much over as a contender anyway), but trading Melo for literally anything would definitely be a much better move, because this team is a dumpster fire that has been kinda good for one year and completely shit every other season.

    27. @30 A proper rebuild? With no draft picks? Easy from the all-knowing comfort of your rocking chair.

      @31 Not Charlie. But not an eternal pessimist griper either.

    28. Every starter on the Raptors was +20 or better. Every starter on the Knicks (except for Lance) was -22 or worse. Our bench, except for Sasha, was all +. So, who’s to blame?

      Melo, Rose, Noah and Lee. Seems clear. They talk a lot but are not playing worth a damn.

    29. Things ain’t looking too great right now.

      I still hold out hope – not that the team will turn around this season, but that Phil sees what most of us see, because he’s shown signs of that in the past.

      It’s not we imagined that Rose/Lee/Melo/KP/Noah would be doing THIS badly.

      I sure as hell didn’t. But here we are. I don’t know if the Knicks can be bad enough to play at whatever putrid winning percentage of, say, Brooklyn. But if a top ten pick in this draft is in play for us, then Phil’s gotta do what he gotta do.

      This team’s defense can’t hold up a line at McDonald’s.

    30. A friend has an extra ticket that I’m guessing he purchased a while ago so I’ll actually be at the garden today. I have never been less excited to attend a game. Hopefully Kuz does some cool stuff or something, I dunno.

    31. The problem wasn’t that the Knicks traded Ewing, it was that they waited too long to do it after it was evident his best days were behind him. In that regard, this mess with Melo is exactly comparable to that situation. The latter should have been exchanged before Phil got here to be honest, but our ownership was so inept they decided to keep him on a team that had almost no chance of contention.

    32. I don’t care how biased the Rosen articles are towards Phil. The man is right that Melo has overstayed his welcome. He’s a ball stopper, plays no defense, and is clearly slipping. The Knicks are so far away from being a contender, it will never occur while Melo is on the team. The only thing that makes sense for everyone is to trade him. I want a pick or young prospect, but I would gladly take back expiring contracts for him. Cap space is an asset.

      Same thing with Rose. He was a bad idea to begin with and should move on at year end.

      We are stuck with Noah, but we should at least try to trade him.

      Phil was briefly on the right path, but “win now” always gets you into trouble unless you are 1 piece away. It was obvious when he took this route it was a mistake, but even the people that never learn should see it now.

    33. I think that Phil actually did a decent job with the hand he was dealt. He should have gotten More for chandler for sure and not given Melo a NTC. I think he tried to do a mix of rebuilding and trying to win. He had only 1 first round pick and traded to get another. He was ok.

      I think this off season is gonna be huge.

      What do the knicks do with Melo? Who do they draft? what is done with the D Rose cap space?

      I think the Knicks will be ok in the long run. They just need to watch out for KPs health and get a good PG either through the draft or a smart young pick up.

      I am probably the biggest Melo supporter here, and i have in the back of my mind wanted to trade him for a few years now. But now i think its time. Hes tried in his way to win and its not working and hes not getting younger. Its best for all sides. And not for nothing, i have never seen a player attacked personally like he has been all year. From Phil, to George Karl, to Rosen…..its been kinda messed up even for him and all his faults. Like i said i think Clippers would be awesome for the league and for him and his boy CP3 to finally get a shot to win. I just dont know how to make it work. He will be 33 this year and probably has 2-3 decently productive years left. its his best shot

    34. Rosen’s comments are a hilarious mixture of spot on commentary (r.e. Melo) and idiotic Phil fawning.

      However, the good is that maybe Melo now is willing to waive the NTC. Trading him is in no way similar to the Ewing deal.

      Melo still has some value in the league; the question is how much? If he does get traded, Phil needs to either get a 1st rounder, a decent young player, and/or some salary relief. If not, just keep the guy and the tank rolls on. I don’t think they’ll get a monster package for him, but I also don’t think that they will have to pay a team to take on his years.

      Don’t get all myopic and think that the Knicks are the only badly run franchise. There are other dumb GMs and owners out there, and a few teams nearing the trade deadline that will be desperate to do something to move the needle for their teams. All it will take is one team to think that Melo bumps up their playoff hopes.

      The Clippers and Celtics, for example, are in purgatory right now. They will make the playoffs and exit, and they know that. Both would like to add Melo; it is just a matter of fit (Clips probably require a 3rd team to get a deal done) and willingness to part with something of value (for the Celtics, I’d insist on Brooklyn’s 1st rounder or maybe Crowder and expirings). Ainge might very well not go there; so be it.

    35. I made a new years resolution to try to avoid saying negative things about anyone. So I want to qualify this by saying I think Melo is a good guy that has a ton of good things for the community. He also seems like a great father to his son. I admire him for those things. However, as a basketball player he is and has always been the antithesis of everything I hold dear. If by some chance he agrees to wave his NTC and we move him, I will feel like I was just exorcised of a demon. Virtually every minute of virtually every Knick game has been less enjoyable than it could have been since the Knicks traded for him. Sorry to be so harsh, but to me it would be a giant relief.

    36. However, the good is that maybe Melo now is willing to waive the NTC. Trading him is in no way similar to the Ewing deal.

      It absolutely is, depending on what we get back. Derrick @38 had it exactly right.

      The issue us that we’re not going to get proper value for Melo. The ship has sailed. His NTC limits our ability to market him. If we want to trade him, bench him – 15th man, I get to wear street clothes on the bench, benching. Let him rot there and get him to waive the NTC and the 15% kicker.

      By the way, we’re our own worst enemies. The constant hammering of Melo just continues to lower his marketability. The more we whine, the worse that eventual trade will become.

    37. The Clippers and Celtics, for example, are in purgatory right now.

      The Clippers are kind of screwed because Doc is a terrible GM and hasn’t been able to do the easy part- which is build around the 3 legitimate stars.

      The Celtics don’t care about winning the championship this year. They are good, getting better, and still have the picks (Nets picks for example) and trade assets to get MUCH better. Few teams are positioned as well.

      http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/8/22/12562936/boston-celtics-future-nba-draft-picks-brooklyn-nets-grizzlies-clippers

    38. it’s not about getting proper value to the Melo trade that brought him to the Knicks: that’s NEVER happening because Melo was never worth that many picks and players when he was at his best.

      it’s the fact that he is not even a good player, he’s a player that actively makes his team worse by being a ball hog, a terrible defender and an extremely overrated scorer.

      Ewing was a legitimately very good player for most of his prime and building around him generated a perennial playoff contender, even when the pieces around him weren’t great; Knicks Melo was at most a good player in some handpicked stretches, but is still perceived as a star by some.

      Ewing was completely done and was 37 by the time this team traded him… it’s obvious that he wouldn’t be worth anything and it’s honestly surprising the Knicks even got anything back for 37 year-old Ewing.

      Melo is 32 and still overrated enough that he might be valuable somehow to a sorry franchise around the league.

      if we wait until his contract is over to pursue other options, then that will be equivalent to trading 37 year-old Ewing: the franchise waited until the player was 100% done and lost him for peanuts.

    39. and honestly, how are the Celtics in purgatory?

      they have a legit star in an incredibly cheap contract for 2 more years in Thomas, great role players with amazing contracts (Crowder and Bradley), two young prospects (Brown and Smart), expiring contracts to free up cap space (Jerebko, Amir Johnson) and two picks that are very probably ending up in the top 3-5.

      the Horford contract will probably hurt, specially in 2 years when they’ll need to re-sign Bradley and Thomas, but they are pretty much in one of the absolute best positions in the league not counting the obvious Warriors / Cavs situations.

    40. You have to take back long-term salary if you want to trade Melo and get assets back. This shouldn’t be an issue, since we’re doing a full rebuild. I’d take Crawford’s contract to dump Melo; likewise with other albatrosses–they would also help our loss total over the course of the rebuild.

    41. You have to take back long-term salary if you want to trade Melo and get assets back. This shouldn’t be an issue, since we’re doing a full rebuild. I’d take Crawford’s contract to dump Melo; likewise with other albatrosses–they would also help our loss total over the course of the rebuild.

      We would be better off getting back just expiring contracts than taking on a single bad long term contract. The entire point of the trade would be to rebuild, not get back different crap players on long term contracts.

    42. We would be better off getting back just expiring contracts than taking on a single bad long term contract. The entire point of the trade would be to rebuild, not get back different crap players on long term contracts.

      If we’re doing a full rebuild it would have to be a 3-4 year plan so there would be no point in worry about any contracts acquired during that time frame if they expired by the end of the rebuild. Taking on bad contracts is a major way to gain assets while getting worse in the short-term. Expirings are the best option to take but that doesn’t sweeten the trade pot for Melo enough. Having Jamal Crawford on a 24m dollar contract is 1. great for the tank, 2. prevents us from spending that cap space on a player until we’re ready to and 3. comes off the books right when we actually want to build a good team (KP in his prime.) It’s an ideal rebuilding contract to have on the books.

    43. I’d take Jamal, he’s on a 14 million per-year contract that ends at the same time Melo’s ends.

      we would have to take Austin Rivers or something else on a 3 team trade, but Jamal would be much less of a headache / would not cry or pout over being replaced by younger talent in the starting lineup.

      and I agree with silky, this team is not going to be good for 2-3 years, and will have no use whatsoever for cap space since no big time free agent would ever join the rebuilding Knicks, so it’s even a blessing in disguise: because Jamal’s contract would be filling up the cap, the stupidest front office in the league won’t have ways to waste money on even more terrible deals.

    44. Taking on bad contracts is a decent way to rebuild if they are sweetening the pot with great picks and your timetable is long term. It’s a horrible idea if you are rebuilding in a multi-faceted way (picks, free agency, and trades) like the Knicks will be doing because no one will ever trade for that bad contract. You’d be stuck with Crawford for the duration and kill the rebuilding efforts. Sorry, but imo taking on Crawford would be beyond idiotic. We want young promising players, picks, or expiring contracts that will give us cap space “if” something is available in free agency. I’d rather just keep Melo and slowly rebuild young while he’s here than take on other asinine contracts.

    45. I would rather have Crawford than Melo simply because I think the team would be worse that way, which would ensure our first round picks are top lottery picks.

      I think that’s more important than keeping Melo and picking 13th in the draft.

    46. I clearly do not understand why we would trade Melo for other long term contracts like Crawford and no assets. The Clippers in that scenario would have to thrown at least 1 first rounder and maybe some second rounders as well if they have them.

      What about stretch waiving Melo?

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