Knicks Morning News (2016.11.02)

  • [NYPost] Kristaps Porzingis not thrilled he sat most of the fourth quarter
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:28:09 PM)

    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Kristaps Porzingis said it didn’t cost the Knicks the game, but he would have preferred to get out on the court sooner in the fourth quarter when the club’s offense came to a screeching halt in a 102-89 loss to the Pistons on Tuesday night. During the Knicks’ 10-point fourth quarter,…

  • [NYPost] Thibodeau disciples Rose, Noah rip Knicks ‘D’ after ugly loss
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 6:07:19 PM)

    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Joakim Noah wasn’t happy about the Knicks’ defensive posture to start the game. Neither was Derrick Rose, who even invoked the forbidden name of his former Bulls coach and defensive guru Tom Thibodeau in the locker room after a 102-89 loss to the Pistons at The Palace. The Knicks couldn’t defend…

  • [NYPost] When Brandon Jennings ‘knew it was over’ with Pistons
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:46:48 AM)

    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Knicks new backup point guard Brandon Jennings knew he was gone from Detroit one year before he was actually gone. As Jennings rehabbed from an Achilles tendon rupture, Pistons coach and president Stan Van Gundy struck on Feb. 19, 2015, and traded for free-agent-to-be Reggie Jackson with every intention of re-signing him. Jennings didn’t…

  • [NYPost] Derrick Rose: How my game has evolved since Bulls
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:22:08 AM)

    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Derrick Rose has been through his season opener as a Knick and his home opener as a Knick. In two days, Rose will be flying into Chicago ahead of his first game against the Bulls as a Knick. Rose said there’s “no bad blood’’ between himself and the Bulls organization. But…

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks continue to struggle on defensive end in loss to Pistons
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:40:04 PM)

    The Pistons scored 64 points in the first half and went on to beat the Knicks, 102-89, Tuesday night. The Knicks are 1-2 and have allowed at least 102 points in each game they’ve played.

  • [NY Newsday] Derrick Rose says there’s ‘no bad blood’ between him and Bulls
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:05:00 PM)

    Derrick Rose insists he has “no bad blood” toward the Bulls and said that Chicago will see a different player when the Knicks visit the United Center Friday.

  • [NY Newsday] Why Knicks’ Brandon Jennings has no hard feelings toward former team
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:41:00 PM)

    Brandon Jennings said he’s not out to show the Pistons they made a mistake for giving up on him when he faces his former team on Tuesday night.

  • [ESPN] Wednesday’s Knicks News: Poor defense key reason for loss to Pistons
    (Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:36:05 AM)

    Wednesday’s Knicks News: Poor defense key reason for loss to Pistons

  • [ESPN] Kobe does not miss playing ‘even a little bit’
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:32:25 PM)

    Kobe does not miss playing ‘even a little bit’

  • [NYTimes] In Exile From the Knicks, but Still at Home in Cleveland
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:08:15 PM)

    In Cleveland, they recently unveiled a street sign for Charles Oakley. In New York, he has been estranged from the Knicks organization for years.

  • [NYTimes] Two Years After Last Game, Ray Allen Officially Retires From N.B.A.
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:50:22 PM)

    Allen won N.B.A. titles in Boston and Miami, and made one of the most memorable 3-pointers in N.B.A. finals history.

  • [NYDN] Knicks nonexistent on defense in 102-89 loss to Pistons
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:57:26 PM)

    Phil Jackson can break out the clipboard and the Knicks can execute the triangle like it was right out of Tex Winter’s playbook.

  • [NYDN] Byron Scott: Phil Jackson should stop coaching or fire Hornacek
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02:05 PM)

    Byron Scott says Phil Jackson is undermining Hornacek and should sooner fire him than continue to send out potentially conflicting messages.

  • [NYDN] Brandon Jennings isn’t excited to be back in Detroit
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:51:25 PM)

    Brandon Jennings got the gist. He knew the Pistons gave up on him as soon as they traded for Reggie Jackson.

  • [NYDN] Derrick Rose won’t be out for revenge when Knicks visit Bulls
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:57:30 AM)

    Rose’s rise and fall in Chicago were about as dramatic as you can get in the NBA.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks stumble in fourth quarter during 102-89 loss to Pistons
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:58:16 PM)

    Tobias Harris scored 25 points and Marcus Morris added 22 to lift the Detroit Pistons to a 102-89 victory over the New York Knicks on Tuesday night.

  • [SNY Knicks] TD’s 3 keys to victory vs. the Pistons
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 6:00:06 PM)

    With the Knicks (1-1) traveling to Detroit to take on the Pistons (2-1), here are SNY.tv’s Tommy Dee’s three keys to victory.

  • [SNY Knicks] Shortened rotation should continue benefitting Knicks
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:55:32 PM)

    Using a shorter rotation should continue to benefit the Knicks, as the team’s top players will get extra playing time over the players at the end of the bench.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks take on Pistons in Detroit
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:10:31 PM)

    The Knicks travel to Detroit to take on Andre Drummond and the Pistons on Tuesday night.

  • [SNY Knicks] Hornacek, players not bothered by Jackson’s presence
    (Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:30:56 AM)

    Jeff Hornacek and the Knicks players are not bothered by Phil Jackson’s presence around the team.

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    7 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.11.02)”

    1. I am a bit afraid to read this thread today.

      IMHO – blame for last night goes to (in order):

      1) Kristaps Porzingis. A team worst -14 in just 30 minutes. Toasted regularly on defense by just about anyone that went at him. I do not know what was up with him last night. He had a little offensive flurry there in the 2nd half but he was really pretty bad.

      2) Melo – Hornacek needs to get in his ear and tell him that this is a team game and not a mano e mano vs. whoever he happens to be guarding. He and Marcus Morris have always had this strange rivalry where they each take about 8 terrible shots 1-on-1 against each other. Marcus just happened to his his horrible shots last night, whereas Melo didn’t.

      3a) Lance Thomas – DUDE. you have to hit wide open shots. And when you do have an open 3, you have to keep your foot behind the line. If Lance can’t hit wide open shots, then we’re going to have a problem.

      3b) Rose – overall I thought he was ok last night. A little bit of heroball in the 4th was not good, but at least in comparison to some of Melo’s awful shots, it wasn’t so overt. And I thought defensively he was fine against Ish Smith, who shot 5-14. I actually thought he should have gotten a bunch of foul calls in the 1st half that he didn’t get, but in the 2nd half he did not take it strong to the hoop, and he really needs to start doing that. It really is strange – his short-area quickness seems fully intact, and he still jumps high on his jumper and seems to be able to jump high on defense, but when he gets near the basket he does not elevate. He had that weirdo finish at Drummond in the first or 2nd quarter in which he had several steps unimpeded before the shot — would love to see him dunk that ball and draw the foul, but he did a strange half floater half finger roll. Maybe that’s just what he will do from now on.

    2. Re: Noah and when he stands 19 feet from basket — yes it definitely hurts spacing to some degree, but they seem to try and mitigate that by running dribble hand-offs with him. If his man sags way back to the paint, then whoever takes the DHO from him basically has a wide open jumper. I don’t get the sense that Noah is the problem on offense.

      Honestly, even without Reggie Jackson, Detroit has a ton of talent. Drummond, Harris, KCP, and Morris are all pretty good players. SVG is a great coach. It’s no shame to lose to Detroit in their building. But our defense really has been a problem. Could get ugly tonight against Houston, although Harden played 38 minutes last night in a tough game at Cleveland. Maybe he’ll be tired-er than our guys.

      I’d like to see Hornacek go small tonight with KP at center and Melo at the 4 and either Kuzminskas at the 3 (or Lance if he can hit a shot). Melo will toast Ryan Anderson all night long in that matchup, Ariza is not really a guy who will make Kuzminskas pay on defense, and if KP is playing the 5, Capela will be dragged to the perimter when the Knicks are on offense – lane should be wide open without rim protection.

    3. I guess I’m just still confused as to what Jackson was envisioning when he put this team together. Rose finds himself off the ball a lot, maybe because of Melo, or the triangle, or both. It’s hard to tell exactly why, but that’s a role he’s just never going to do well with. Even in his peak of peaks he wasn’t someone who could derive a ton of value solely from scoring. He was valuable because he could score at a high volume with decent-ish efficiency AND was a very good playmaker. On this team he doesn’t have a lot of playmaking opportunities and doesn’t exactly jump at them when they do present themselves. He’s functionally useless if he isn’t scoring well, which happens more often than not at this point in his career. The issue of there being too much heroball and the issue of having a point guard who averages two assists per game are not independent of one another.

    4. I guess I’m just still confused as to what Jackson was envisioning when he put this team together. Rose finds himself off the ball a lot, maybe because of Melo, or the triangle, or both. It’s hard to tell exactly why, but that’s a role he’s just never going to do well with. Even in his peak of peaks he wasn’t someone who could derive a ton of value solely from scoring. He was valuable because he could score at a high volume with decent-ish efficiency AND was a very good playmaker. On this team he doesn’t have a lot of playmaking opportunities and doesn’t exactly jump at them when they do present themselves. He’s functionally useless if he isn’t scoring well, which happens more often than not at this point in his career. The issue of there being too much heroball and the issue of having a point guard who averages two assists per game are not independent of one another.

      This I will definitely agree with. I didn’t watch so much of the Bulls when Rose and Noah were there playing well together, but it does seem weird to have Rose off the ball so much rather than attacking and/or creating WITH the ball. He’s not a great shooter, doesn’t do much in terms of cutting to the basket, etc. I honestly wonder whether he’d be better off playing more with the 2nd unit than the starters, and letting the offense go through him alongside KP.

      The only obvious answer to this is MORE RON BAKER.

      (I am only sort of joking)

    5. I honestly wonder whether he’d be better off playing more with the 2nd unit than the starters, and letting the offense go through him alongside KP.

      I’d love to experiment with starting Jennings, who for all of his faults does often look to pass, and seeing what Rose can do with the offensively starved second unit in a role that more closely resembles what he’s used to.

    6. Call me a Wednesday morning coach if you like but i felt that Loss coming from the first minute of yesterday’s game.

      The players’ body language was yelling:
      “WE’RE GOING TO LOSE NO MATTER WHAT”.
      No hi5s, no team spirit, no fun, no real effort, no fire, no desire, no passion even from fiery Noah…

      Seemed like jet lag effect or like trying to tell to Phil:
      “Let us play freely man and stop busting us with your triangle stuff”

      wanna see EFFORT tonight

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