Knicks Morning News (2016.10.09)

  • [NYDN] Jeremy Lin responds to Carmelo Anthony’s ‘franchise’ comment
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:10:17 PM)

    Believe it or not, Jeremy Lin will not be playing on Saturday night against Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks.

  • [NYDN] Kristaps Porzingis: Adidas deal not finalized; Nike can match
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 9:16:34 PM)

    Kristaps Porzingis has proven to be a marketable phenomenon in the biggest market.

  • [NYDN] Derrick Rose skips preseason game to remain in L.A. for trial
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:54:54 PM)

    Phil Jackson’s summer reconstruction was based around two players – the starting point guard and center.

  • [NYDN] Knicks may be shopping for another point guard next summer
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:11:04 PM)

    Now may be a good time for Phil Jackson to recant his statement that Derrick Rose isn’t losing any sleep over his civil trial for rape.

  • [NY Newsday] Confident Kristaps Porzingis helps Knicks top Nets
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:45:50 PM)

    The first time Jeff Hornacek worked out Kristaps Porzingis, it wasn’t his height that struck him as much as his skills. The first-year Knicks coach said Porzingis reminded him of a shooting guard.

  • [NY Newsday] Nets coach Kenny Atkinson: Not playing Jeremy Lin was plan
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:33:00 PM)

    A touch of the perceived tension between new Nets point guard Jeremy Lin and former Knicks teammate Carmelo Anthony bubbled to the surface before Saturday night’s first preseason meeting, but Nets coach Kenny Atkinson pulled the plug on any theatrics by choosing to rest Lin and veteran forward Luis Scola.

  • [NYPost] Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah return dates unknown
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 8:30:54 PM)

    The Knicks likely will be waiting close to another week before either of their big offseason additions return to the court. Derrick Rose opted to remain in Los Angeles because of his civil trial for alleged sexual assault and missed Saturday’s 116-98 preseason win over the Nets, while Joakim Noah missed his second straight contest…

  • [NYPost] Derrick Rose who? Brandon Jennings steals show for Knicks
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 7:56:02 PM)

    Derrick Rose was in Los Angeles. Joakim Noah was stuck on the sidelines. With the two new stars out of the Knicks’ lineup in Saturday night’s preseason game against the Nets at the Garden, opportunity arose for several reserves, with additional playing time granted to multiple players just hoping to make an NBA roster. But…

  • [NYPost] Jeremy Lin: Carmelo hasn’t ripped me to my face
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 9:19:27 AM)

    After Carmelo Anthony expressed surprise that the Nets had made Jeremy Lin the face of their franchise, Lin said he doesn’t care what his former Knicks teammate said. Lin didn’t play Saturday night when the Nets lost, 116-98, to the Knicks at the Garden, but Brooklyn coach Kenny Atkinson insisted the point guard sitting had…

  • [NYTimes] Healthy and Rested, Lynx Star Lindsay Whalen Is Primed for W.N.B.A. Finals
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 5:24:27 PM)

    Whalen, a veteran point guard, skipped the overseas season to heal and also benefited from a specialized training program and a lighter workload.

  • [NYTimes] W.N.B.A. Stars Try to Move Up to Fashion’s Front Row
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:00:16 AM)

    Why hasn’t a female LeBron James — a star of the fashion tents as well as the hardwood — emerged from the W.N.B.A.?

  • [NYTimes] WNBA Finals Features Matchup of Best Teams, Lynx vs Sparks
    (Sunday, October 09, 2016 2:03:38 AM)

    All season long the Minnesota Lynx and Los Angeles Sparks have been the best two teams in the WNBA.

  • [NYTimes] Utah Jazz Look to Future Without Injured Gordon Hayward
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 9:57:45 PM)

    The Utah Jazz began life without Gordon Hayward on Saturday with the first practice since the franchise player broke a finger on his non-shooting hand. There is no set timetable for his return.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks rout Nets in exhibition
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:08:38 PM)

    The Knicks defeated the Nets 116-98 Saturday at Madison Square Garden.

  • [SNY Knicks] Rose, Noah will not play against Nets on Saturday
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 4:58:27 PM)

    Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah will not play in Saturday’s preseason game against the Nets.

  • [SNY Knicks] Lin not worried about Melo’s comments
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 1:39:09 PM)

    Nets guard Jeremy Lin said he is not paying much attention to Carmelo Anthony’s recent comments expressing his surprise that Lin was a “franchise player” in Brooklyn.

  • [SNY Knicks] Justin Holiday needs strong preseason to earn his minutes
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 1:28:49 PM)

    Justin Holiday has more to prove than some other players on New York’s bench.

  • [SNY Knicks] Rose takes stand, assumes ex-girlfriend consented to sex
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:11:25 AM)

    There was no text message that specifically gave Derrick Rose permission to have sex with his ex-girlfriend, but for the NBA star the signs were clear, he testified in a lawsuit that accuses him and two friends of raping the woman.

  • [SNY Knicks] TKB Scouting Report: Preseason Game 2 Nets at Knicks
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 10:26:34 AM)

    Detroit Pistons. The Nets won the game behind a very balanced attack led by Jeremy Lin’s 21 points.

  • [ESPN] Knicks’ Brandon Jennings: ‘I just feel like myself again’
    (Sunday, October 09, 2016 1:16:30 AM)

    Knicks’ Brandon Jennings: ‘I just feel like myself again’

  • [ESPN] Rose misses preseason game due to lawsuit trial
    (Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:26:44 PM)

    Rose misses preseason game due to lawsuit trial

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    50 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.10.09)”

    1. Accountability is what I’m looking for this season. If you play well you play more. This is what good teams do. I think maybe cutting a veteran on a guaranteed deal (see KOQ) would send an important message. I don’t NECESSARILY think that means any individual player (see Sasha).

      Last night there were a lot of bright spots (against a putrid Nets team, who seem to be committed to being putrid for a few seasons until they get their draft back. Smart from S Marks). Obviously Randle sticks out the most, but I loved Ndour and the Baker pull up 3 was really eye popping.

      We’re not gonna be a great team but we could be decent if the coaching finally does it’s job. I don’t see why you’d keep Lou Amundsen for example. Then again, I don’t go to practice, so MAYBE, he’s the right choice. I’m rooting for guys with upside but mostly that I can trust that the brains behind the team are thinking straight and that the players know that if you don’t play the way the coaches want you won’t play.

    2. Also, I know BJennings was 2-6 and had 3TO’s which really could have been 5, but it was fun to see point guardy behavior out there. I’m going to root for him most definitely.

    3. Willy was great too. And Plumlee is going to hurt somebody out there. With all of our veterans I wouldn’t mind keeping all or most of our kids at the end of the roster.

      We still haven’t seen Willy and KP on the court at the same time and that should be fun.

    4. Let’s face reality about the roster. We like to think of it as a 15 man roster but reality is that it’s a 13 man roster plus two players that are alright not dressing for a two weeks but are ready to step on the court after that. What that means to me is that Amundson and Vujacic are locks for the roster.

      At the other end we know that Melo, Noah, KP, Rose and CLee are starting and let’s just add Jennings and Thomas who are a lock to be on the team. That leave 6 spots for:

      WillyH, Plumlee, Ndour, O’Quinn, Kuzminskas, Tokoto, Randle, JHoliday and Baker.

      Based on this one game, Kuz, Tokoto and Holiday look like cuts. I think this will change. Kuzminskas seems very tentative so far. Tokoto and Holiday were absent. This can all change, but it’s what I’m seeing right now.

    5. At some point, Clyde needs to stop calling Willy “Gomez”. I think he thinks his name is Herman Gomez.

      But it’s preseason, so I’ll cut him some slack.

    6. Seems like one of Holiday,Baker, Ndour, or Randle will get cut. If it’s me I would prob cut Holiday. baker and randle look like keepers, and it’s harder to find a guy with Ndour’s skill set than Holiday’s IMHO.

      And I know we’ve seen very little so far, but I would not be surprised if Jennings ends up playing equal or more minutes than Rose this year. With all the scoring talent on this team esp on the starting lineup,Jennings’s passing eye seems a better fit. He looks REALLY quick.

      Willy H is a keeper too. Great footwork, great hands, seems to understand how to get his shot off even when at a size and athleticism disadvantage. Good call whoever gave the David Lee comparison.

    7. I think Amundson and Marshall will be cut. plumlee is not an NBa player. What was it- 4 fouls in the first 7 minutes?

    8. Plumlee is valuable and coach likes him (that’s why he started). He’s raw but he hustles an and intimidates. I like that. That’s Oakley-like. Yeah, he did a lot of hacking and whacking but is that a bad thing in small doses?

    9. If we cut Lou, Sasha and Tokoto no one would even pick them up. We should cut them and make them coaches and play Tokoto in the D league. They would always be there if we wanted to resign them although I don’t know why we would.

    10. Lots of rookie bigs end up with frequent foul troubles until they adjust to the NBA. It’s not a reason to cut Plumlee if the rest of his game is worthwhile.

    11. The great thing about the new blood at the end of the roster, is they play positions of need. And it just so happens that we need young talent to cultivate and develop. I would not be upset if Phil cuts the end of bench vets in favor of the kids. I definitely think Plumlee should stay over Amundson if it came down to it. He’s a physical 7 & active enforcer, screen setter, rebounder and defender who is a good roll man also. As far as Sasha goes..I’d wait to see if Holiday makes something out of his opportunity before I let him go.

    12. Tokoto actually played quite well last night but he’d be the first one to go for me after relatively known mediocrities in Amundson and Holiday.

      I don’t understand the KOQ hate. He’s a very good rebounder and doesn’t hog the ball despite his occasionally questionable plays. He’s still quite valuable at 4M a year no matter how frustrating he is to watch. I really want to see more of Kuz.

      I’d cut Amundson, Holiday, Plumlee, and Tokoto and keep Randle, Ndour, and Baker.

      I’m pretty sure that Amundson and holiday are being retained with Baker and Plumlee headed for the D-League with Randle being added.

    13. I really liked what I saw from Jennings last night. He pushed the pace (and let’s be honest about Calderon, that was never his strong suit) and was just very active on both ends. He’s going to be critical to the Knicks success (or failure) this season, as we don’t have much of a bench and we’ll need him to energize the 2nd unit.

    14. I’m hoping that Amundson/Kris Kristofferson was signed just for depth through training camp. If everyone stays healthy, he might get cut but probably keep his phone on and nearby for the eventuality that a big gets hurt during the season. I can’t imagine that any other team would pick him up. Maybe giving him the guaranteed contract came with this understanding? Probably not, but I’m hoping.

      Tokoto looked EXCELLENT on D last night, but yeah, he’s not making the final 15.

      I’d rather keep Plumlee than Amundson, if it comes down to that. In the first 2 preseason games, the Knicks have shown exactly 2 shot blockers/rim protectors: KP and Plumlee. That’s it. Plumlee’s problem is being overly aggressive (though he did tone it down a lot in the 2nd half), and he also needs to hit more foul shots. But the dude can intimidate and run the floor. If he goes D League, I hope the Knicks don’t lose him.

      I’d be shocked if Sasha gets cut. Frankly, he deserves a spot.

      As I said last night, I think that Hernangomez’s presence makes OQ redundant. However, given Noah’s fragile nature, OQ’s spot may be safe all year.

      I really hope the Knicks keep all the kids (well, except Tokoto). Man, when they are in the game the ball moves nicely and they can all run the court.

    15. Hornacek is a perfect coach for the kids. He lets them run and play and smiles at them too :)

    16. Gotta keep Baker, Randle, and Ndour. I would like to keep Plumler.

      Holiday looks lost. No need to keep Lou.

    17. don’t you figure that if you are a Plumlee, you kinda play like a Plumlee, and sooner or later, that’s a good thing?

    18. I don’t see much David Lee to Billy’s game. He’s bigger and more polished in terms of his footwork and his offensive touch, but he’s nowhere close to being the explosive athlete Lee was. (Lee only scored on trash he got because the defense was focused on stopping Eddy Curry)

      If you mean in that they’re both offense/rebounding bigs though, sure.

    19. plumlee isn’t good…. he wasn’t good in college… and aside from looking like he hustles… he still couldn’t grab a board….

      he is overmatched and he is 24…. we really shouldn’t have signed him to begin with but giving him a roster spot is compounding the problem…

    20. Shame on me. I said that Tokoto was invisible during the game. Sure, he didn’t score in 12 minutes but he grabbed 5 rebounds, had 3 assists and 3 steals and was +8. Still, he’s a long-shot.

    21. Thing is, if we cut Holliday, how are we going to keep pretending the Rose trade wasn’t a total disaster?

    22. I believe Hornacek when he says Phil is hands off. He’s been like that as a coach, always giving his players the opportunity to solve problems on their own. No reason he won’t do it now with his coaches.

    23. I think the roster battles are:

      Baker vs Holiday
      N’Dour vs Tokoto
      Plumlee vs Lou

      Everyone else I think is safe. Randle because he can play point, Sasha because triangle and Willy and Kuz because upside and length of contract.

      Right now it looks like N’Dour, Baker and Plumlee making it but any of those six getting cut wouldn’t surprise me.

    24. @silky, I actually agree on KOQ. I just used cutting him as an example of play hard and play smart or fear the consequences type philosophy. He’s frustrating but could still possibly put it together.

    25. @23 – I can see Holiday, Tokoto and Amundson getting cut, but I don’t think it’s the pairings you list. The late summer signing of Amundson was curious. I don’t think he and Vujacic are just training camp bodies.

    26. the season hasn’t started yet so how can you say it’s a disaster? He looked good in the first preseason game.

      While he was decent for his standards (52% TS) in the first preseason game, he didn’t play in the second because he had to testify in his sexual assault case, and if by some grace of god he plays well this season we’ll still probably lose the trade due to his contract situation.

    27. I won’t call anyone’s season a disaster until the season at least starts. I think Rose will have a season that is an up-tick from last year. He’ll play a few more games. He’ll looks to be a bit faster. There’s a far, better chance of him being a complete bust than being an all-star, but both are within range for him.

    28. The case is most likely getting thrown out or settled this week before the season starts. Rose helped us land Noah which helped us land Lee. If those three dudes help us win this season it’s a win trade wise for us. And the contract is convenient for the haters bc if he does well this year you get to switch from hating on him for his play to hating on him cause we’ll have to resign him and pay him and obviously he’ll get hurt the second after we resign him cause you have a crystal ball and I don’t. So regardless of how Rose and the Knicks do this year people get to keep hating the trade and him cause you get to switch your focus to his next contract and not his current play. Me? I just want the Knicks to be good and win games.

    29. If those three dudes help us win this season it’s a win trade wise for us

      I have to commend you for just being bluntly honest about your preference for reckless, short sighted pursuits at 45 wins instead of trying to imply there’s anything else behind the Rose trade.

      And the contract is convenient for the haters bc if he does well this year you get to switch from hating on him for his play to hating on him cause we’ll have to resign him and pay him and obviously he’ll get hurt the second after we resign him cause you have a crystal ball and I don’t. So regardless of how Rose and the Knicks do this year people get to keep hating the trade and him cause you get to switch your focus to his next contract and not his current play.

      Yeah, generally you shouldn’t trade assets for players that have a contract that is “convenient for the haters.”

    30. Man for every GSW that built the right way there are plenty of Kings, Jazz, 76ers, etc…who perpetually have draft picks and lottery picks and yet still suck or are average. So this idea that the process BS that philly is doing is the only way is just that….BS.

      I think we can be a 50 win team this year. Will it require some luck and an injury free season? Sure. But I think we can do that. And if Rose is healthy, if Jennings and Noah are healthy…then why would this be the only 50 win season we have? Especially with Zinger on the rise. We have 3 draft picks next season. We have Willie H locked up for 4 years at a million a year. We have a market reasonable contract with Courtney Lee. Jennings is only 28 years old. People on this board act like the moment a player turns 30 they turn into a pumpkin. Its not true.

      And my point about Rose is that you guys have basically set it up to hate him no matter what he does. If he sucks you were right. If he’s decent or good you’re still right because then we’ll obviously overpay for him.

      Phil has put together a team that can compete now and will not hamper us for future development bc we can build around that team with draft picks. And you guys all complained for months about how phil was gonna hire Rambis. But he didn’t. So don’t assume he’s gonna overpay Rose a max deal based off of one decent season if he has one.

    31. Man for every GSW that built the right way there are plenty of Kings, Jazz, 76ers, etc…who perpetually have draft picks and lottery picks and yet still suck or are average. So this idea that the process BS that philly is doing is the only way is just that….BS.

      I didn’t say it was, but the “trade some of your few positive assets for Derrick Rose on a 1 year deal” plan is almost literally doomed to failure.

      I think we can be a 50 win team this year. Will it require some luck and an injury free season? Sure. But I think we can do that. And if Rose is healthy, if Jennings and Noah are healthy…then why would this be the only 50 win season we have? Especially with Zinger on the rise. We have 3 draft picks next season. We have Willie H locked up for 4 years at a million a year. We have a market reasonable contract with Courtney Lee. Jennings is only 28 years old. People on this board act like the moment a player turns 30 they turn into a pumpkin. Its not true.

      Most statistical projections have us in the 34-37 range. That means 50 isn’t impossible, but would require an amount of luck that is not worth regarding as a legitimate possibility when building a team. It’s hard to answer the second question because it’s premised on something very unlikely happening (us winning 50 this year), but Rose can be healthy and productive this year but not the next, 31 year old Noah can be healthy and productive this year but not the next, same with Jennings, same with Lee, same with Melo. The majority of the players we’re relying on to be good this year are simply not at an age and/or injury history conducive to them being good for a long time after that. I love Porzingis, but as we’re learning from the Pelicans absolutely nailing one high pick is simply not enough.

    32. And my point about Rose is that you guys have basically set it up to hate him no matter what he does. If he sucks you were right. If he’s decent or good you’re still right because then we’ll obviously overpay for him.

      Don’t look at me, I’m not the one who traded for him.

      Phil has put together a team that can compete now and will not hamper us for future development bc we can build around that team with draft picks. And you guys all complained for months about how phil was gonna hire Rambis. But he didn’t. So don’t assume he’s gonna overpay Rose a max deal based off of one decent season if he has one.

      Yeah see I’m just not inclined to lavish praise on people for meeting the bare minimum standards for competence. In this case that means not hiring Kurt Rambis. As far as the future is concerned, we traded Grant, let Galloway walk for a contract that he’d be worth if he barely improves, and project to be bad but not bad enough to get a very high draft pick. These are all ways in which the future is being damaged in pursuit of above averageness in the present.

    33. @33. I’m sorry, but I can in no way see the “disaster” that you’ve continually touted. You don’t feel it worthy to give credit

      “for meeting the bare minimum standards for competence”

      , but what the hell did we have for the better part of 13 years before Phil was hired on? It damn sure wasn’t “minimum standards of competence”, I’ll tell ya.
      And let me ask about that competence: what do you feel is the “minimum”? Then let me ask you: looking at the NBA landscape in terms of management, do you feel the Knicks are par for the course of average competence, below it, or above it?

    34. As far as the future is concerned, we traded Grant, let Galloway walk for a contract that he’d be worth if he barely improves

      Yeah, our future is so fucked because we traded the great Jerian Grant and chose not to re-sign Langston Galloway.

    35. Well these Warriors are built around a free agent acquisition to play in an amazing market, a 2nd round pick, and the number 7 and 11 picks in their respective drafts.

      I don’t have much faith in Phil Jackson, but what I’ve come to realize is that as long as you have your draft picks anything is possible. The Pacers are built around #10 pick Paul George. Jimmy Butler was taken #30th. Kawhi went #15th and was traded. Isaiah Thomas went #60th. Andre Drummond went 8th. Kemba Walker went 9th. Until Phil Jackson trades away future first round picks for DeMarcus Cousins, I’ll continue to have faith in whatever his plan is. If we suck? We get a lottery pick, and if we don’t suck? We go to the playoffs. Darryl Morey built a Rockets team while being the face of .500 basketball all because he valued the draft.

      Feel how you want to about Derrick Rose and Phil Jackson, but basic competence along with luck and patience is what wins in this league. The only geniuses are in San Antonio.

    36. Yeah, our future is so fucked

      Is this what I said? Or was it “These are all ways in which the future is being damaged in pursuit of above averageness in the present.” I know that’s much harder to respond to, but come on.

      Then let me ask you: looking at the NBA landscape in terms of management, do you feel the Knicks are par for the course of average competence, below it, or above it?

      Below it, and I’m surprised this is in dispute. Not the worst (Vlade and maybe a few others help in that regard), but we weren’t exactly in competition with anyone for Derrick Rose’s services, and yet we gave up very real value for him.

      , but what the hell did we have for the better part of 13 years before Phil was hired on? It damn sure wasn’t “minimum standards of competence”, I’ll tell ya.
      And let me ask about that competence: what do you feel is the “minimum”?

      Our winning percentage for the 13 years prior to Phil was .428. It has been .298 since he’s been here. Don’t kill the messenger.

    37. Is this what I said? Or was it “These are all ways in which the future is being damaged in pursuit of above averageness in the present.” I know that’s much harder to respond to, but come on.

      Neither of them are particularly impactful players. If we continue to be an under .500 team it’s not going to be because we moved on from Grant and Galloway.

    38. Neither of them are particularly impactful players. If we continue to be an under .500 team it’s not going to be because we moved on from Grant and Galloway.

      Moves at the margins matter. If Grant and Galloway turn into rotation players (Galloway already was) that’s money you don’t have to spend elsewhere. This is potentially extremely beneficial. Do I really have to make a case for retaining young, cheap talent? Also I don’t really understand writing off Grant as not impactful after 1100 rookie minutes but taking a wait and see approach with Rose after 3500+ minutes in seasons seven and eight.

    39. Moves at the margins matter. If Grant and Galloway turn into rotation players (Galloway already was) that’s money you don’t have to spend elsewhere. This is potentially extremely beneficial. Do I really have to make a case for retaining young, cheap talent? Also I don’t really understand writing off Grant as not impactful after 1100 rookie minutes but taking a wait and see approach with Rose after 3500+ minutes in seasons seven and eight.

      Yeah, they matter, but you’re also acting like Phil didn’t round out the roster with a bunch of younger level players like how he discovered Galloway. I’ve already stated that I think Baker and/or Randle can replace the production of Grant and Galloway. So I don’t disagree that it’s good to take risks on young players, I simply disagree that moving on from those players is an indication that we don’t want or plan on ever retaining young talent.

    40. And my point about Rose is that you guys have basically set it up to hate him no matter what he does. If he sucks you were right. If he’s decent or good you’re still right because then we’ll obviously overpay for him.

      It’s not my fault the Knicks make personnel moves that are lose/lose. If Rose plays lights out (he won’t) and the Knicks give him a max contract, is that a good outcome? Isn’t the massive risk of signing a player as injury-prone as Rose glaringly obvious? What are the other possible “good” outcomes of this trade– Rose plays sort of okay, then gives the Knicks a hometown discount? That will never happen. If Derrick Rose plays decent basketball, he is going to be rewarded by somebody with a giant honking mistake of a contract.

      You win in this league by getting players who outperform their contracts. I just fail to see how that is ever going to happen with Derrick Rose. There are two ways you can get surplus value from Derrick Rose: sign him to a max contract, and he plays like an MVP, a top-10 player in the league. Or, sign him to a discount contract and he plays like a quality starter. These things have NO chance of happening. Derrick Rose is not signing a discount contract, and he is not going to be returning to MVP level.

      I just don’t get why it’s hard to understand that this trade was a lose-lose.

    41. You can screw around your whole life and find a lotto ticket and come out ahead of the person who did everything in his or her power to become successful.

      But the reality that luck plays a factor in a lot of things doesn’t justify recklessness.

      Lavor Postell: Yeah, our future is so fucked because we traded the great Jerian Grant and chose not to re-sign Langston Galloway.

      Our future is fucked because the team has continuously spent its cash and credit in an attempt to bump the team into relevance rather than investing. Each new GM is stuck paying the last GM’s debts and doesn’t have either the balls (Jackson) or the job security (Walsh) to commit to and complete replenishing the team’s talent to a point where in terms of net trade value of its combined assets it’s even comparable to the average NBA team.

      Imagine you took over a company that was losing money year after year and just sorta coasted along — didn’t make any major changes or experiment with any big ideas. Sure, it’s not your fault that the company was failing when you took over, but as soon as you become the person in power, if you had eyes and a brain and were willing to use them, you should have recognized that keeping things the way they were wasn’t a solution.

      The truth is that the specific players Jackson has traded and brought in don’t really matter. It’s the low reward investment strategy that is flawed at the most basic level in light of the roster and picks the Knicks possessed when Jackson took over.

    42. What Scott Layden, Isiah Thomas and Donnie Walsh presided over were orders of magnitude worse than what Jackson has done. He doesn’t maximize value at all but his replacement will have an easier time than he did. For the Knicks that’s actually evident progress.

    43. It’s hard to compare the NBA to the operation of a business.

      It’s much more like Monopoly and the Knicks have finally stopped trading the $200 they get for passing Go five laps in advance.

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