Knicks Morning News (2016.01.05)

  • [New York Post] Knicks putting into perspective how god-awful last year was (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:12:07 -0500)

    Unless you're the Giants or the Jets, 17 victories is no reason to pop champagne and reflect with warm, fuzzy thoughts. But then, if you only won 17 games the previous season and are less than halfway through the current schedule, maybe there is cause for celebration. And so the Knicks, holding a 16-19 record…

  • [New York Daily News] Melo focusing on assisting Knicks, not hung up on scoring (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:33:10 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony was told he’s only 156 points behind Larry Bird on NBA’s all-time scoring list, an accomplishment he had a little fun with.

  • [New York Times] Green’s Triple-Double Leads Warriors Past Hornets 111-101 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 06:49:07 GMT)

    For five straight trips down the court, Draymond Green knew he needed just one more assist for a triple-double.

  • [New York Times] Randolph Leads Grizzlies to 91-78 Win Over Trail Blazers (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 05:57:38 GMT)

    Zach Randolph had 26 points and 18 rebounds off the bench, and the Memphis Grizzlies beat the Trail Blazers 91-78 on Monday night to spoil Damian Lillard’s return to the Portland lineup.

  • [New York Times] Harden Scores 30, Rockets Rally for 93-91 Win Over Jazz (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 05:21:42 GMT)

    James Harden scored 30 points and the Houston Rockets rallied in the second half to beat the Utah Jazz 93-91 on Monday night, ending their longest losing streak of the season at four games.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | College Basketball: Virginia Tech Shocks No. 4 Virginia (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 05:11:42 GMT)

    Zach LeDay scored 18 points in the second half and blocked London Perrantes’s attempt to tie the game in the final seconds as host Virginia Tech (10-5, 2-0 Atlantic Coast Conference) won a 70-68 stunner over No. 4 Virginia (12-2, 1-1).

  • [New York Times] Heat Rally From 18 Down, Top Pacers 103-100 in OT (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 05:06:38 GMT)

    Chris Bosh and Paul George had a quick conversation during one stoppage in play, both taking a moment to remember some of those epic Miami-Indiana playoff matchups of a few years ago.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Cavs Rout Raptors as Irving Scores a Season-High 25 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:46:23 GMT)

    Kyrie Irving, playing just his sixth game of the season after returning from a broken kneecap, shot 10 of 16 from the field and added 8 assists and 6 rebounds in the win over Toronto.

  • [New York Times] Celtics 103, Nets 94: Loss of Jarrett Jack Hangs Over a Nets Defeat (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:10:50 GMT)

    With Jarrett Jack out for the season after injuring his right knee in Boston last Saturday, the team’s looseness before a home game against the Celtics proved to be a facade.

  • [New York Times] Smooth Irving Shines for Cavs in Big Win Over Raptors (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:03:31 GMT)

    Kyrie Irving has talked for weeks about shaking off the rust since his return from a long injury layoff but the Cavaliers guard moved like a well-oiled machine in Cleveland’s 122-100 victory over the Toronto Raptors on Monday.

  • [New York Times] Leonard Scores 24, Spurs Beat Bucks 123-98 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:01:01 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard scored 10 of his 24 points in the decisive third quarter and the San Antonio Spurs beat the Milwaukee Bucks 123-98 on Monday night for their fifth straight victory.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Roll Past Timberwolves 109-99 for 3rd Win in 6 Games (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:55:36 GMT)

    From anguish to flourish, the 76ers are suddenly a better team with Ish Smith.

  • [New York Times] Cousins Has 33 Points, 19 Boards, Kings Top Thunder 116-104 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:52:17 GMT)

    DeMarcus Cousins had 33 points and a season-high 19 rebounds, and the Sacramento Kings took advantage of Kevin Durant being out of the lineup to beat the Oklahoma City Thunder 116-104 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Lakers Torn on Which of Bryant’s Numbers to Retire (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:24:27 GMT)

    Kobe Bryant has enjoyed an illustrious career while wearing two separate jersey numbers and with his final chapter approaching it has left the Los Angeles Lakers with a decision about which one to retire.

  • [New York Times] Pistons Pour It on Late in 115-89 Rout of Magic (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:09:36 GMT)

    Andre Drummond had 17 points and 12 rebounds, and the Detroit Pistons rolled to their most lopsided victory of the season by beating the Orlando Magic 115-89 Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Crowder’s Career-High 25 Lead Celtics Over Nets, 103-94 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:03:38 GMT)

    Jae Crowder scored a career-high 25 points with a strong start and a clutch finish, and the Boston Celtics beat the Brooklyn Nets 103-94 on Monday night to split a home-and-home series.

  • [New York Times] Irving Scores Season-High 25, Cavaliers Beat Raptors 122-100 (Tue, 05 Jan 2016 02:54:53 GMT)

    Kyrie Irving scored a season-high 25 points, J.R. Smith had 24 on eight 3-pointers and the Cleveland Cavaliers defeated the Toronto Raptors 122-100 on Monday night.

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    25 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.01.05)”

    1. So who’s going to get the 1st 10-day contract?

      I’ll vote for Jimmer (having nearly a 50/50/90 shooting year on a usage of 24.6, 5 rebounds / 5 assists /2 steals per game). You can’t ask him to do much more than what he is doing.

      I’d be fine with Toure Murry making a return.
      Erick Green would be nice too.

      Meanwhile – this guy seems to be playing under the radar at Westchester. 7’2″ shot blocker named Jordan Bachynski: http://stats.nbadleague.com/player/#!/203947/

    2. If we had two roster spots, and also if we could get his D-League rights, I’d like to sign Christian Wood to go play in Westchester for us. But we have no need for another big man right now, and a desperate need for a guard who can penetrate. Whether that’s Jimmer, Green, or someone else, I’ll trust the scouting staff, but we need a guard.

      Brian yesterday pointed out that the NBA’s roster rules won’t give us an exemption for Cle’s spot even if he’s out for the rest of the season, which is annoying. I don’t want to cut the guy, especially for something that wasn’t his fault, but since he has such a small salary, it’s already guaranteed for the year, and is a free agent after the season, could we cut him with a wink-wink about how we’d re-sign him after the season, anyway? And maybe even sign him to a Westchester contract if he’s ready to play this spring, just to keep him fresh? Or would that prevent him from taking advantage of our medical and training staff as he rehabs?

    3. Jordan Bachynski is actually top 10 in d-league WS/48 iirc.

      Wouldn’t mind Erick Green or Jimmer. Really want Christian Wood–that kid was one of the better rookies when he played (in admittedly limited minutes)–114 MP but a WS/48 of .142; a BPM of -2.1 [(that’s about replacement level for BPM, right? And does BPM adjust for the fact that Philly is fucking terrible or is the team an edge case and so would skew results? I figure the answer is that BPM can account for it but I don’t really know) and a VORP of 0 and he’s only 20! No reason not to bring the kid on board to Westchester or even our our NBA team when he’s a 20 year old rookie playing at replacement level or better.

      Obliquely related: I realize that BPM and WS/48 are quite different (and BPM is probably better by a fair margin), but is there any quick and dirty explanation for why the rather different conclusions that each stat says we ought to draw for certain players (e.g. Christian Wood.)

    4. No reason not to bring the kid on board to Westchester or even our our NBA team when he’s a 20 year old rookie playing at replacement level or better.

      We can’t bring Wood to Westchester, at least not without working out some kind of trade with the Sixers, who still own his D-League rights. We could sign him to an NBA contract, but if he plays in the D-League, it’d be in Delaware.

    5. Off topic, I know, but what a strange coaching record for Tom Coughlin. 12 years as head coach, 2 Super Bowl championships, 5 total playoff appearances, no playoff victories other than the 2 Super Bowl seasons.

      The Tyree helmet catch essentially cemented the legacies of Coughlin and Manning. 1 Super Bowl victory would still be meaningful, but neither would be nearly as immune from criticism as they are today.

    6. Can we trade or cut Seraphin yet?

      Christian Wood is not a proven failure, which puts him (at least) one up on tubby.

    7. Jimmer seems like the obvious choice for a 10-day contract. Next up for me is Travis Trice II and not just because I can call him TTII.

    8. @5 – wait til you see how Jerry Reese’s rosters perform without a hall of fame coach. You’ll be longing for the days when we were in position to criticize late game management.

    9. “@5 – wait til you see how Jerry Reese’s rosters perform without a hall of fame coach”
      Which raises the obvious question — how in the world does Reese still have a job? I was watching a game recently and one of the announcers said, “Think about it — after Manning and Beckham, who is the third best player on the team? There really isn’t one.” They have pretty much zero talent on defense.

    10. The Giants have led the NFL in self inflicted wounds the whole time Coughlin was there. Literally. Plaxico shot himself in the leg, JPP blew up his hand-it’s weird.

    11. The Karmic price for the two SB runs, I suppose.

      I think Beckham saved Reese’s job, but it was almost impossible not to screw that pick up. Giants went into that draft with major holes at WR, DL, and OL. Beckham, Aaron Donald, and Zack Martin were the best players available at each position. All three have made the pro bowl in their first two seasons. Hell, you can even argue the other two would have been better picks (I won’t, because that is splitting hairs, but you can).

      I can’t believe this guy gets to hire a coach and oversee another draft.

    12. It seems as though Jose is playing a little better lately but I’d be interested in a Jose for Kevin Martin swap (money/years is roughly equal). Bring up 2 of jimmer, tony wroten, Travis trice, toure Murray or if there’s there’s another deal to had pull that trigger something like seraphin + pick for shroder. Promote Galloway to starting pg

    13. Looks like Whiteside is out for Miami tomorrow. So that’s nice.

      Very nice. The Knicks have been having some decent luck with opponent injuries this year. In this tough stretch of games, they can use all the help they can get. There is a realistic chance that they win tonight and then have three wins in a row after tomorrow night!!

    14. It seems as though Jose is playing a little better lately but I’d be interested in a Jose for Kevin Martin swap (money/years is roughly equal). Bring up 2 of jimmer, tony wroten, Travis trice, toure Murray or if there’s there’s another deal to had pull that trigger something like seraphin + pick for shroder. Promote Galloway to starting pg

      Jose had a usage of 10% in December – was turning down so many reasonable shots that it made his overall efficiency mostly theoretical in terms of actual gross results. In a very small sample his usage is 16 in January — my feeling is that just the threat of him shooting more (and taking layups that are there!!) will open up the rest of the offense.

      Like Pablo before him, he needs to shoot more. He’s the freaking best shooter on the team. If he maintains a 60 TS on a usage of 15, then I feel like his offensive contributions will at least offset if not be greater than his defensive downside.

      I really don’t think he’s going anywhere. He is one of the signature moves of the Phil era.

      So if that’s true, it’s fair to wonder that even if we brought up Jimmer, how much and where would he play, unless you’re going to banish Grant to the D-league (which actually seems like a good idea to be honest)

    15. Jose Calderon would be an excellent small ball two guard in the role of 2013 Jason Kidd. Fat Ray was by all means horrible that season but he could get to the basket and the offense worked pretty well because of it. Of course the triangle won’t really allow that to happen, so we’d need a ball dominant two guard that can get to the basket in order for Jose to shine the way Steve Kerr did in the triangle. I don’t see one of those walking through the door anytime soon, but I’d lobby for Tony Wroten. He gets pointz and gets into the lane pretty easily when he’s not turning the ball over. He’s also like 22 and would only cost a roster spot. Wroten as the back up point guard could bring speed to the second unit and that could make Derrick Williams and Langston Galloway the studs they looked like in October/November. Again, I know how bad his numbers have been, but I really believe the 76ers make everything look worse than it should be (sorta like the anti Spurs effect). I think he’s the guy with the highest ceiling. Jimmer would be nice, but I think we need a guard who can penetrate more than a guard who can shoot threes. Jose shoots the three ball very well and the offense still gets caught in mud.

    16. Between the appearance of giantblogger and the talk of trying to bring in two castaways from the Sixers to beef up the rotation, this is shaping up to be one slow day…

    17. If the Knicks cut Cleanthony Early, the downside for the team would be losing his Early Bird and Gilbert Arenas rights. Neither is likely to matter, given the big jump in the salary cap and that no one is going to give Early a multi-year contract over the MLE.

    18. If the Knicks cut Cleanthony Early, the downside for the team would be losing his Early Bird and Gilbert Arenas rights. Neither is likely to matter, given the big jump in the salary cap and that no one is going to give Early a multi-year contract over the MLE.

      Agreed. I honestly don’t see much downside in just letting him go. I mean, I feel terribly for the guy, but as a basketball move, there’s not much downside. It’s interesting, under the old rules, they wouldn’t be allowed to cut him while on the injured list. That changed when the injured list was gotten rid of.

    19. I would cut Cle, but being a tremendous dick to people for the good of a sports team does not seem to be Phil’s MO for better or for worse

      Still, he’s a better use of a roster spot- even with a slug in his knee- than Tony Wroten would be.

    20. Yeah, I don’t think they need to cut him. Cut Sasha if anything and hire him as some kind of an adviser if you want him around.

    21. Yeah, I don’t think they need to cut him. Cut Sasha if anything and hire him as some kind of an adviser if you want him around.

      I am all in favor of cutting Sasha. And I’d only cut Cle if it was done with the idea that he could still work with our doctors and trainers, that we’d try to bring him back next year, etc. “We love you, you’re part of the family, but you can’t play this year and we need the roster spot, so let’s get you better while we add another wing who can contribute.”

    22. Obliquely related: I realize that BPM and WS/48 are quite different (and BPM is probably better by a fair margin), but is there any quick and dirty explanation for why the rather different conclusions that each stat says we ought to draw for certain players (e.g. Christian Wood.)

      This is actually a hard question, even with the formulas staring you in the face. Obviously it has no bearing on evaluating Wood, but it’s worth look at stuff like this as a reminder that summary stats like BPM, RPM and WS will always have margins of excessive knife edge disparity given how imperfect a measure of “true” production they are guaranteed to be. In this case, I think it is the Sixers terrible team performance, his very low 8 mpg (MPG is a term and matters quite a bit at very low levels in BPM) and to a lesser extent his very low assist rate (there is a significant assist/rebound interaction term in the BPM formula) that penalizes Wood in BPM relative to seemingly similar guys like, say, Jordan Hill.

    23. Yeah that’s pretty much my guess at the reason why after reading through basketball references (surprisingly extensive) guide to BPM.

      Either way it’s definitely worth giving wood a try even if we give him a roster spot imo. Though these end of bench decisions are marginal plays at best so I wouldn’t be bent out of shape if we brought a guard up instead especially given our penetration issues

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