Knicks Morning News (2015.12.29)

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    Knicks Daily Links: Tuesday

  • [New York Times] Curry’s Triple-Double Leads Warriors Past Kings 122-103 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:18:51 GMT)

    Stephen Curry’s eyes lit up when he saw little brother Seth guarding him for the first time in their NBA career, and the reigning MVP promptly missed a long 3-pointer.

  • [New York Times] Irving’s Late Shooting Leads Cavaliers Past Suns 101-97 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:21:44 GMT)

    Kyrie Irving is back, and he definitely was needed on an off night for LeBron James.

  • [New York Times] Gordon Hayward Scores 24, Jazz Beats 76ers 95-91 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:15:43 GMT)

    Gordon Hayward was shocked he was so open when he pulled up for a jumper with time running out on the clock. The result, however, was no surprise.

  • [New York Times] Snell, Gasol Spark Bulls to 104-97 Win Over the Raptors (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 05:54:29 GMT)

    Tony Snell has no idea when he might play these days, so he prepares as if he’s still a part of the Chicago Bulls’ rotation.

  • [New York Times] Cavs Use Long-Range Bombs to Block Out Suns (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 05:12:36 GMT)

    Guard Kyrie Irving scored 22 points in 24 minutes and hit his team’s 17th three-pointer just before the shot clock buzzer with 21 seconds left as the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the fading Phoenix Suns 101-97 on Monday.

  • [New York Times] Nets 111, Heat 105: Wayne Ellington Ignites Nets’ Biggest Comeback of the Year (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 04:51:33 GMT)

    Ellington tied a career best with seven 3-pointers and finished with 26 points as the Nets rallied from a 16-point third-quarter deficit to beat the Heat.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Mascot Catches Bat at AT&T Center (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 04:48:32 GMT)

    Spurs star Manu Ginobili stayed away from this bat at AT&T Center.

  • [New York Times] Spurs 18-0 at Home After 101-95 Win Over Timberwolves (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 04:36:32 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard had 17 points and 11 rebounds, Boban Marjanovic also scored 17 and the San Antonio Spurs remained undefeated at home by holding off the tenacious Minnesota Timberwolves 101-95 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Paul, Crawford Lead Clippers to 108-91 Win Over Wizards (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 04:18:32 GMT)

    With one of the game’s best dunkers grounded by an injury, Clippers point guard Chris Paul made his own mark above the rim.

  • [New York Times] Matthews’ Late 3-Pointers Help Mavericks Top Bucks 103-93 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 04:12:56 GMT)

    Wesley Matthews scored 22 points, including two clutch 3-points in the fourth quarter, and the Dallas Mavericks held off the Milwaukee Bucks 103-93 Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Ellington’s 7 3-Pointers Help Nets Rally Past Heat, 111-105 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 03:33:47 GMT)

    The best shooting night of Wayne Ellington’s career was against Miami.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Matt Barnes Suspended After Clash With Knicks’ Derek Fisher (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 03:29:12 GMT)

    The N.B.A. suspended Barnes, a Grizzlies forward, for two games for his role in an October altercation with Fisher, the Knicks’ coach, at the house of Barnes’s estranged wife.

  • [New York Times] Ellis Scores 26 Points to Help Pacers Stop Hawks, 93-87 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 03:27:35 GMT)

    Monta Ellis scored 26 points and the Indiana Pacers beat Atlanta 93-87 on Monday night, ending the Hawks’ six-game winning streak.

  • [New York Times] Vucevic Scores 28 to Lead Magic Over Pelicans, 104-89 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 03:09:41 GMT)

    Nik Vucevic scored 28 points and matched his career high with seven assists, leading the Orlando Magic to a 104-89 victory over the New Orleans Pelicans on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Walker’s 38 Points Lift Hornets Past Lakers, 108-98 (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:45:41 GMT)

    Kemba Walker scored 18 of his 38 points in the fourth quarter, and the Charlotte Hornets defeated the Los Angeles Lakers 108-98 Monday night in Kobe Bryant’s final game against the team that drafted him — and promptly traded him — nearly 20 years ago.

  • [New York Daily News] Fight with Derek Fisher earns 2 game ban for Matt Barnes (Tue, 29 Dec 2015 03:24:50 GMT)

    The NBA suspended Memphis’ Matt Barnes for his altercation with Knicks coach Derek Fisher during training camp.

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    37 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.12.29)”

    1. Quick thought:
      Tyler Ennis is behind MCW, Vazquez, and Bayless in Milwaukee- should Phil make a play for him? Or would it be better to bring Jimmer, Trice, or Saunders in from Westchester?

    2. Putting together Totes and Vlashfan’s trade suggestions, it might make sense to trade Early for Ennis instead of for Alexander. Alexander’s a power forward while Ennis is a young point guard. We obviously need a point guard much more than a power forward. And if Milwaukee has too many point guards, they might prefer to get a small forward.

    3. Also I recommend the new podcast by Zach Lowe which is an eighteen minute interview of Adam Silver. I really liked the idea of expanding rosters to 17 players with at least two playing in D league at a higher than current D league salary but much lower than NBA rookie scale. This enables teams to develop and train players without worrying other teams would snatch them away.

    4. Watching Kyle Lowry put up 28 pts., 9 assists and 6 rebounds last night vs. the Bulls made me yearn for a competent PG for this team. I know we would have had to give up our 2017 draft pick to get Lowry, but man, would he be a perfect fit with this roster.

      The NBA is a guard-driven league, and that’s our weakest position…..sigh…..

    5. The Berman Story this morning quoting Coach Rosen was pretty interesting and pretty on point.
      our guards are dribbling too much. Our weak-side picks are soft and Melo is facing doubles quite a bit.
      Also, KP is having troubling holding down the block.

      But I also believe those breakdowns are mostly occurring in crunch time, late. Things tend to bog down when defenses tighten up, and it is where the Knicks get away from what typically works for them.

      During most of the rest of the game, the Knicks are getting good looks, but not knocking them down.
      Melo’s play has been very good in many aspects of the game, but he’s only shooting 42% from the field and 32% from 3 pt. He’s our highest volume shooter (19 shots/36) and that’s hurting us. Coupled with KP’s recent shooting slump (15 shots/36) and that’s a lot of missed shots. Knicks make up for some of this with possessions and O boards, but that will take you only so far.

      And it really comes down to the finish, right? Most games the Knicks are battling and keeping within striking distance, but they are unable to hit big shots down the stretch. KP ha shown a penchant for making big shots, but I’m not convinced he’s ready to play center. He’s better as a 4. The Knicks needs him, but they shouldn’t ask him to do things that he cannot do. His healthy maturation is more important than wins right now.

    6. I don’t understand the Triangle well enough to know how it’s supposed to counter pressure defense, but man do our guards struggle when teams pressure and trap the ball. Didn’t get a chance to watch the Boston game, but Atlanta basically destroyed the offense by pressing and doubling the post every time.

    7. Honestly, I hope 100% we bring Jimmer up on a 10 day contract. I believe I heard on the radio the other day that the Knicks are dead last in PG production based on a number of different measures. Would not be surprising. Neither Galloway nor Calderon can get to the rim with any regularity or success, and while Grant tries and gets to the line more than others, he’s also shooting <50% in the restricted area.

      Jimmer, for all his faults (of which I'm sure there are many), is a great shooter, and is able to score in the paint. And he can't be worse on defense than Calderon.

      Re Galloway – I love his toughness and the way he competes, but despite shooting 38% from 3 (and dropping) and having a 3PAr of 41%, his TS is still barely north of 50, and trending very closely to last year's, which was 49. His 2P% is 36.8%. You have to wonder whether he is a player that is worth playing 25-30 min/game. He still does good things like ball protection + rebounding, but increasingly it looks like his offense is a net negative.

    8. @2. Just a clarification. I’ve posted a few links to possible trade scenarios recently, not because I’m promoting the trades as ones I hope will go down, but to get reactions here. I’m just interested in the discussion. The Early for Alexander proposal is an example of that. Sure, I too would prefer that the Knicks get a good young PG instead, but maybe Alexander could add some D and rebounding to the rotation?

      The late game shooting thing is frustrating b/c, like in the Boston game, KP, Melo, and Afflalo were all in the game late, yet quite a few wide open shots were missed. That and the inability of any of the guards to effectively penetrate are the two big issues.

      RE Jimmer, that’s fine if the Knicks want to give him a shot, but given his age (he’s nearing 27, isn’t he?) and earlier chances with teams, I’m not optimistic. And, if they bring him up, do they just toss him right in as a starter? If so, who sits: Calderon or Galloway. There are pluses and minuses both ways. I wonder if the Knicks will continue to start Calderon if, for no other reason, than to try to keep some trade value for him. I really think that he can be a solid guard off the bench for someone, but at $7 million, he’s a bit pricey for that.

    9. @5 – The real message that the Berman article is sending is that Melo is getting frustrated with Fisher. Not surprising but very worrisome.

    10. There are about 7 guards out there who are worth looking at for free. Jimmer, Erick Green, Sean Kilpatrick, Elliot Williams, Lorenzo Brown, Toure Murry, and Wroten. Who knows? We might catch lightning in a bottle. They really can’t be worse than Calderon, Sasha, Jerian. And we have an open roster slot too. Let’s bring in 2 if them and make Sasha a coach.

    11. We are writing off Jerian after two months to try guys that have almost to a man failed over full seasons?

    12. I’ve been a pretty consistent defender of Derek Fisher as a coach, my point being that he’s working with a very flawed roster and his constant shuffling of lineups is an attempt to catch “lightning in a bottle” on any given night. And for those who see his benching of O’Quinn as some kind of crime against nature, go back and watch the Boston game, possible the worst 11 minutes of basketball a player could produce.

      On the other hand, I can see no logical reason for giving Sasha Vujecic a single minute of playing time when this team is healthy. He adds nothing at either end of the floor and is not going to suddenly become a useful player again at this point in his career. What is Fisher’s rationale for Vujecic over Grant? We’re in win now mode? This one he rightly deserves criticism for.

    13. Isn’t Wroten coming off an ACL tear? I don’t think it’s worth investing a roster spot in a player who will probably take another 3-6 months to get back to his old self if he ever gets back to his old self… and his old self wasn’t that good to begin with.

    14. RE: Fisher — I honestly just haven’t seen anything that tells me he’s a good coach. Like Berman wrote in the article, I’m sure he’s a great motivator but tell me about x’s and o’s, because that’s really what I want out of my head coach. I’ll give him a pass on last season, but Chris Herring has pointed out how terrible the knicks are in certain possession types that should reflect on the head coach — plays after timeouts (where the Knicks probably lead the league in 24 second violations and turnovers) and sideline/baseline out of bounds plays.

      On top of that — why in the world are we still experimenting with lineups? Why is Jerian Grant playing 15 minutes one game, 22 minutes another game, then zero for 3 games? Why in the world is Sasha ever on the court?

      Overall I’m just getting a little frustrated with the direction of this team. We have a bunch of guys that I feel good rooting for, but just don’t like how the system is not adjusting to fit the strengths of the players. For Pete’s sake, these are Phil Jackson’s and Tex Winter’s words in their 7 principals of a sound offense:

      7. Use individual talents. It only makes sense for an offense to allow a team to take advantage of the skill sets of its best players. This doesn’t preclude the focus on team play that is emphasized in the six other principles, but it does acknowledge that some individuals have certain types and degrees of talent, and an offense should accentuate those assets. Michael Jordan taught me this.”

      Jerian Grant is/was a great PNR player. Put him in that position even within the triangle on the weak side.

      KP is weak in the post at this point in his career and hasn’t really learned much of a face up game, but is great in PNP and historically has been very good coming off screens. let’s DO that.

    15. Is Jimmer a great shooter, though? He’s at 41% for his career, although with a 49% eFG. Seems like he’s basically an average shooter who is terrible at everything else.

      And he’s not young anymore. This is his fifth year in the league and he’s already been signed and waived by five teams. The Pelicans were completely decimated by injury earlier this season and still chose to cut him.

      If they want to give him Sasha’s minutes for a few games, sure, why not. But the likelihood that he’s a diamond in the rough is almost nil at this point.

    16. Sorry -more on Fisher.

      It was obvious in Boston within 10 minutes that Brad Stevens is a great coach. Scott Skiles immediately upgrades every team he goes to, even if he grates on everyone after 2-3 years. I’m just not seeing it with Fisher right now. Feels very much like he is trying to play chess rather than checkers… but that he’s just not really that good at chess.

    17. Some guys take longer and need the right coach and system. And yes he passes the eye test as a very good shooter. Also an excellent passer and penetrator. Very smart and surprisingly unselfish too. He will struggle on defense but can’t be worse than Jose.

    18. Is Jimmer a great shooter, though? He’s at 41% for his career, although with a 49% eFG. Seems like he’s basically an average shooter who is terrible at everything else.

      And he’s not young anymore. This is his fifth year in the league and he’s already been signed and waived by five teams. The Pelicans were completely decimated by injury earlier this season and still chose to cut him.

      If they want to give him Sasha’s minutes for a few games, sure, why not. But the likelihood that he’s a diamond in the rough is almost nil at this point.

      It’s his 5th year but he’s only played 3000 minutes, which is like one Lebron season. He’s been compared by others to a JJ Redick sort of guy — limited athletically, great shooter. If you look at the first few years of their careers, the numbers are actually quite similar with the major difference being that Redick got to play off of Dwight Howard for Stan Van Gundy and Jimmer was counted on to be the savior of an awful Sacramento team with an out-of-control DMC and Tyreke Evans.

      I’m not expecting him to be great. I’m just desperately looking for someone in the backcourt who can make teams pay for doubling Melo. Jose’s afraid to shoot, and Gallo + Grant can’t shoot. Sasha’s awful.

    19. @NYKnicksNews reporting a rumored 3-team trade on Twitter:
      Knicks get: Dwight Howard, Luke Babbit
      Rockets get: Derrick Williams, Jose Calderon, Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson
      Pelicans get: Robin Lopez, Kyle O’Quinn, KJ McDaniels, Terrence Jones

    20. Begley: knicks are one of several teams who have looked into signing wroten…I think for now we need to make, small, low risk-high reward moves like this. Guy’s 22 years old

    21. @NYKnicksNews reporting a rumored 3-team trade on Twitter:
      Knicks get: Dwight Howard, Luke Babbit
      Rockets get: Derrick Williams, Jose Calderon, Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson
      Pelicans get: Robin Lopez, Kyle O’Quinn, KJ McDaniels, Terrence Jones

      I think the word in this case would be “speculating”, not “reporting”. Take the two big name players most rumored to be potentially on the block (Howard, Anderson), add in your favorite team and you have a massive insanely improbable three team trade without a hint of logic to it for any of the teams.

    22. Begley: knicks are one of several teams who have looked into signing wroten…I think for now we need to make, small, low risk-high reward moves like this. Guy’s 22 years old

      listen pal– unless you were trolling a reddit subthread of the women of making a murderer and discovered DRStuartGrayTradePatrol reporting that we are only signing wroten so we can flip him to daryl morey for dwight howard, find another blog

    23. @22 – I was just quoting the Twitter post. I personally think this is an idiotic trade for the Knicks or anyone involved. I would much rather see them promote Jimmer right now. We all look at him as a mad chucker but he can also drive and break down a defense.With Eric Bledsoe going down for the year, we might need to do this ASAP, or lose him.

    24. that would be the dumbest trade of all time.
      and one that probably has less than zero chance of happening. i think Phil would rather kneel and swear allegiance to his Highness Jerry Krause than make a trade like this.

    25. @22 – I was just quoting the Twitter post. I personally think this is an idiotic trade for the Knicks or anyone involved.

      Sorry, I wasn’t trying to criticize you personally. Just pointing out that it’s not like anyone was really “reporting” that this was a thing anyone involved was actually considering. Just something a random nobody on twitter brought up.

      I’m 100% in agreement with you (and just about everyone else) that the #1 thing we should be looking at from a player personnel standpoint is the guard situation. I still think Lopez (in tandem with OQuinn and Zinger) can give us what we need at C, but he needs better guard play and a system more tailored to his strengths. I’d rather try to make him work than already look to upgrade on him.

    26. I understand. I should have stated my position when I posted the rumor. We are 100% in agreement.

    27. Jimmer is not a mad chucker from what I’ve seen of him this year. He’s a smart, disciplined shooter who is also an amazing passer. And he penetrates at will. His defense will be problematic.

    28. If the Knicks somehow get Dwight Howard in any kind of a trade, I will start rooting for the lovable Brooklyn Nets. He may be my least favorite player in the NBA.

    29. Zach Lowe has brought this up on his podcast a few times now: do we really want to be the team that gives Dwight Howard his last big contract? I certainly don’t. So either we’re trading all those players for a one-year rental (which…why?), or we’re planning on paying him big bucks to stay (again…why?). Either way obtaining Howard is a bad idea. Even though Howard is a better player than Lopez (when healthy, and that’s kind of a big deal with him), the value on the return wouldn’t be that great, if it even ends up being positive at all. If we’re so gung-ho to trade Lopez, even a straight up trade for Howard is a mistake.

      As for Jimmer, I’m all for giving him a shot with the open roster spot we have and giving him Sasha’s minutes…but I think some of us might be expecting too much from the guy who, in five years, pretty much just failed out of the league. I mean, he can’t be worse than Sasha, so I guess he’s got that going for him.

    30. Not sure what you mean by Fisher’s doghouse, being that he has one of the longest rotations in the league…

    31. @29 –

      Jimmer is not a mad chucker from what I’ve seen of him this year. He’s a smart, disciplined shooter who is also an amazing passer. And he penetrates at will. His defense will be problematic.

      That is, or was, Fredette’s reputation but yes, his play in the D-League has been good. I like him coming off the bench in spurts to spread the floor and drain a couple of threes. Is he going to have the same penetration success with the big club? I don’t know.

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