Knicks Morning News (2015.12.20)

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo Anthony leads Knicks past sluggish Bulls, 107-91 (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 06:31:54 GMT)

    The Bulls showed up at the Garden with tired legs. They’d gotten to their hotel at 4:15 a.m. because of a 4 OT marathon the night before.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Butler rips Bulls coach Hoiberg after loss to Knicks (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 06:24:31 GMT)

    The Pistons get credit with an assist for running the Bulls into the ground during an epic four-overtime victory 24 hours earlier.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks shooting guard Afflalo showing team scorer’s touch (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:48:32 GMT)

    This is the Arron Afflalo the Knicks expected.

  • [New York Times] Canyon Barry Continues Family’s Under-Handed Free Throw Legacy (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 09:51:27 GMT)

    College of Charleston guard Canyon Barry says he is accustomed to hearing the cheeky chants from the crowd when he steps to the free-throw line and launches the shot under-handed.

  • [New York Times] Anthony Sets Tone, Knicks Breeze Past Bulls (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:48:27 GMT)

    After a sluggish start, the New York Knicks regrouped and cruised to a relatively stress-free 107-91 victory over the Chicago Bulls on Saturday, with Carmelo Anthony scoring 13 of his 27 points during the opening quarter.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Wizards Hold Off Furious Rally by Hornets (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:28:05 GMT)

    Washington beat visiting Charlotte, 109-101, on Saturday night, after the Hornets nearly erased a 15-point deficit.

  • [New York Times] Howard Leads Rockets Over Clippers, 107-97 (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:12:45 GMT)

    Dwight Howard had 22 points and 14 rebounds, and the Houston Rockets built a huge lead early and rolled to a 107-97 win over the Los Angeles Clippers on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] NBA Capsules (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:12:38 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony scored 27 points and the New York Knicks beat the weary Chicago Bulls 107-91 on Saturday night for their fourth straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 107, Bulls 91: With Bulls Depleted by Marathon, the Knicks Take Advantage (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:08:15 GMT)

    The Bulls’ exertions in Friday’s game had sabotaged their efforts Saturday night against the Knicks, who rolled to a 107-91 victory in a game that never felt particularly competitive.

  • [New York Times] Gasol, Barnes Lead Grizzlies Past Pacers 96-84 (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:57:39 GMT)

    Marc Gasol had 19 points and 12 rebounds, Matt Barnes finished with 15 points and 10 rebounds, and the Memphis Grizzlies defeated the Indiana Pacers 96-84 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Keeping Score: Celtics Are on the Rise. The Problem: So Is the East. (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:38:04 GMT)

    Boston is winning with depth, strategy and execution, but it is not in a playoff position in the Eastern Conference, which finally seems to have an overall edge over the West.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Beat Weary Bulls 107-91 for 4th Straight Win (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:00:45 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony scored 27 points and the New York Knicks beat the weary Chicago Bulls 107-91 on Saturday night for their fourth straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Wall Scores 27 Points to Lead Wizards Over Hornets 109-101 (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 02:42:39 GMT)

    John Wall had 27 points and 12 assists, Garrett Temple scored a career-high 21 points and the Washington Wizards beat the Charlotte Hornets 109-101 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Durant Leads Thunder Over Bryant-Less Lakers 118-78 (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 01:42:46 GMT)

    Kobe Bryant may not have made the difference. Either way, the Oklahoma City Thunder had little trouble with the Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday

  • [New York Post] Two women ‘steal’ $750,000 in jewelry from a New York Knick (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:21:48 -0500)

    Knicks forward Derrick Williams was robbed of $750,000 in jewelry at his Tribeca apartment early Saturday — and he's blaming two women he took home from a Meatpacking District club earlier in the evening. The women pillaged a Louis Vuitton jewelry case holding a small fortune in basketballer bling, law-enforcement sources said. "I don't want…

  • [New York Post] Carmelo Anthony opens up: Inner ‘peace’ will save from collapse (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:35:13 -0500)

    Give peace a chance. Carmelo Anthony has, and that has made all the difference in his Knicks' world. There is an amazing transformation going on at the Garden — perhaps with the Knicks, too — but Melo really has changed his game for the better this season, and it is so fun to watch. Anthony…

  • [New York Post] Bulls star rips into ‘laid-back’ coach after Knicks roll (Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:12:55 -0500)

    Fred Hoiberg's name came up during Phil Jackson's coaching search because of his history with the triangle offense. But the first-year Bulls coach, who replaced hard-nosed Tom Thibodeau, is already feeling some heat from one of his stars — Jimmy Butler. After the Knicks routed the tired, Bulls, 107-91, Butler appeared to call out Hoiberg…

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    73 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.12.20)”

    1. Must be nice to own $750,000 in jewelry.

      Okay, so now that Anthony looked so good vs. the Bulls, they surely must want to trade for him, right?
      :-)

    2. Another compliment to Fisher is that he hasn’t felt compelled to play marquis free agent acquisition Robin Lomez big minutes.

      On another note, Bobby Portis may wind up being the steal of this draft. I was very impressed by his all-around game.

    3. Anyone else think Lopez fits the Bulls’ system a lot better, and Noah fits the triangle a lot better too? Those two should be reversed. Trade would probably be better for both their careers and if Noah can’t get it right, he’s expiring.

    4. Derrick Williams has made $20M in his career up to this year. After taxes and agent/lawyer fees, that’s probably $10M tops, maybe in the $8-9M range depending on state taxes.

      Yeah, he’s a victim, but when you keep about 8% of your total lifetime earnings in a Louis Vuitton bag in your closet…

    5. They are comparable players right now, so I’d be OK with that deal. Not sure I make that deal if I’m Chicago, Lopez looks overpaid right now.

    6. I’m concerned he was out partying and hooking up with strange women after a nighttime win when we had a game the next day. Can’t that wait until the team has a day off?

    7. You know if this team could add a couple of wily vets like Noah and a Jamal Crawford we’d be loaded for bear.

    8. Yes but I think he’s a lot more chill than J.R. He doesn’t really act up in-game (yet).

    9. I’m concerned he was out partying and hooking up with strange women after a nighttime win when we had a game the next day. Can’t that wait until the team has a day off?

      You’re thinking of basketball players as capitalist assets, cogs in a machine, rather than human beings with feelings and motivations. He simply wanted to express himself outside of the basketball court. Can’t you understand that?

    10. Changing the subject to the football Giants, is Odell Beckham insane? And I mean that in a good way.

    11. I gave up on NYG when they scored 49 and lost. The defense can’t stop a nose bleed. Too bad because Eli to Odell is special like nothing I’ve every seen. Hopefully they get a pass rush back next year. Even a decent defense puts them in the playoffs easily. Sad, but that’s a great organization and I think it won’t take them 15 years to get back to prominence like some other broadway shows we talk about around here.

    12. Changing the subject to the football Giants, is Odell Beckham insane? And I mean that in a good way.

      Beckham needs to calm the fuck down. A dropped TD pass, 2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, and then he celebrates his catch like they just won the Super Bowl and they proceed to lose a minute later.

      He’s got a world of talent, but he really needs to bring it down a notch.

    13. I think people underestimate how often NBA players go out–they go out a fucking LOT. That’s not to excuse Williams from being a dumbass, but just because he’s partying before a game doesn’t mean he’s JR; it’s more common than you think.

    14. I’m with THCJ on this one too. What someone does off duty, and doesn’t impact his job performance, is his business.

      It’s a free country.

    15. Oh, I totally agree. That said, I think there’s a reason why guys with DWill’s physical talents underachieve. Poor judgment and decision-making is often part of the package. Putting yourself in a position to have to explain how you had $750,000 worth of valuables robbed by guests in your crib is a bit weird.

    16. I wish I was in a position in life where I could be robbed of $750,000 worth of jewelry by two women I brought home.

    17. @19 — key words -“and doesn’t impact his job performance.” I know that loads of guys do it but I don’t believe for one second that partying until 4 in the morning the night before a game doesn’t affect performance.
      By the way, I agree — the Giants defense is beyond awful. They get zero pressure on the quarterback, can’t cover anyone and can’t tackle. And I get pissed every time I see that stupid club on JPP’s hand. How many times in the last few weeks has someone slipped out of his grasp because, well, he has no grasp?

    18. I don’t know if I’m pissed about the club so much as disappointed. I mean jpp was a physical marvel coming out of college, before the bad back. Of course the sport wrecked him. Then he somehow blows his fingers off? Are you kidding me? I did see that play last week where he couldn’t rap up and the Dolphin RB scored. So sad. Now OBJ loses it? NFL has become a league of freaks and head cases. Dog murders, people murderers, public girlfriend punchers, kid stick hitters, etc. Even Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are cheaters. Maybe it’s all the head trauma. I just feel embarrassed watching it at this point, though I still do.

      NBA= Good clean fun! Even the Bad Boy Pistons have nothing on the carnivorous wanton violence of football.

    19. NBA problems are so innocent comparatively. Dwill being overly trusting. Sweet really. It seems like a lot of money but I’m sure a lot of them guys have sun glasses worth that much :-)

    20. Oh and Rex sending Enkampali out as a captain at the Jet game? Yeah, real classy. I mean, are they trying to one up each other for brutality and insensitivity at this point?

    21. I was being sarcastic about Mike Plugh’s ridiculous take on NBA players as spatial artists exclusively.

      It’s mind-blowingly stupid to bring two women home from a club AND have that much in theft-prone assets sitting in a fucking suitcase in your closet. I’m not his moral overlord and I’m sure as hell not his employer, so I really don’t care one way or another. But I do think that it is objectively stupid.

      He suits up for a brand that you like. Don’t take it personally that he wants to go out and party, like just about any dude in his twenties worth eight figures would.

    22. No, it’s mind-blowingly stupid to punch your girlfriend in an elevator. I wonder if any of Wilt’s 20,000 conquests got away with any loot? Trusting people to not rip you off is not stupid. Naive maybe. Mind-blowingly naive? Still, I’m not blaming him for going out after a game. He had a decent 16 minutes last night and was ready for the game.

    23. It’s simple. They are the New York football ignats. We are the Krazy Kats. Our love earns us bricks to the head. lil angils.

    24. Jets > Giants

      Safe > Louis Vuitton case

      Bringing two women home from the club > bringing no women home from the club

      Anyone who has ever seen Derrick’s hair and is surprised by his poor decision making is someone who doesn’t get it.

    25. I am trying to ignore the hair as a symptom. Clyde was equally provocative in his day (not to mention outfits and a spread in a magazine about his Clyde-ish mink coats, hats, cars, bed and ceiling!) and his late night exploits with the ladies were legendary, but he never was in the news for any kind of scandal, ever.

    26. On a different topic, I just noticed there was an article about a week ago saying the Knicks were interested in Brandon Jennings. I didn’t see that discussed here. Does anyone think that’s a real possibility?

    27. I doubt that Jennings can be acquired. Detroit and the Knicks are both vying to make the playoffs in the same conference so why would they help us? I saw a highlight film of his return in the dleague and his health didn’t look like an issue.

    28. I got banned on r/nba for insisting that a turnover does not take away one possession from the offending team and give an additional possession to the defending team. Dude insisted that if two teams had 100 possessions, and Team A forced 4 turnovers, then Team A would have 104 scoring possessions and Team B would have 96. I was like huhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      I got downvoted like twenty times for my explanation. We’ve had some dumb debates on this board, but nothing as stupid as being unable to count. Thank you, everyone.

    29. I got banned on r/nba for insisting that a turnover does not take away one possession from the offending team and give an additional possession to the defending team. Dude insisted that if two teams had 100 possessions, and Team A forced 4 turnovers, then Team A would have 104 scoring possessions and Team B would have 96. I was like huhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      I got downvoted like twenty times for my explanation. We’ve had some dumb debates on this board, but nothing as stupid as being unable to count. Thank you, everyone.

      I think the most disappointing thing about that was the number of people that down voted you ha ha.

      On Jennings, I really don’t see a deal with the Knicks involved happening; that’s something I am pretty happy about.

    30. Also saw some pics on Instagram of the kid who cried at the draft after we picked KP wearing a no.6 jersey. I know he is just a kid, and it’s good he’s on the wagon, but a part of me is like “f*@# you kid, you don’t get to enjoy him now!”. Probably a little harsh and irrational, but hey that’s spots fandom for you.

    31. Lol whether the other team scores, misses, or turns the ball over it all ends in a change of possession. The only thing that affects the number of possessions would be pace. That’s hilarious.

      I don’t think Brandon Jennings will be a Knick. We have nothing the Pistons want/need unless they think Kevin Seraphin is a swell guy or something. All things considered, I’d rather have Ty Lawson. Neither guard is likely to come here, but one guard is better than the other. If there’s any player in the league worth buying low on, it’s Ty Lawson. I’d offer RoLo or Calderon for Lawson, and I’d try to steal Terrence Jones in the process.

    32. Lawson is making 12 or 13 million and Houston is faced with a luxury tax, I believe. He’s played with Melo and Afflalo before and there might be some residual chemistry. Who knows, Houston might actually trade us an asset just to take him off of their hands.

    33. I got banned on r/nba for insisting that a turnover does not take away one possession from the offending team and give an additional possession to the defending team. Dude insisted that if two teams had 100 possessions, and Team A forced 4 turnovers, then Team A would have 104 scoring possessions and Team B would have 96. I was like huhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      I doubt you got banned for this. (BTW, you need a question mark after “huhhhhhhhhhhhh”.) I think you probably got banned for never expressing an original idea and calling people “stupid” in various ways. I know I know, “if you can’t take it, dude…” Listen, you’re a big part of this blog and it wouldn’t be the same without you but, like the Monty Python sketch, there are times that, “I’ve come for an argument” but ” this is contradiction.” I don’t think you should be banned from here but you are a classic troll. You’re reaction to Mike Plugh’s Sixer thread was a case in point. He’s a decent young writer and he never followed through and made a real recap after his quick one. Maybe it had to do with the utter insensitivity of the reception he got after hours of hard work. I’ve certainly been critical of staff writers here in the past, stupidly so in fact, and I regret it. Furthermore, I’m probably front and center in the “stupid” discussions you mention, but I’ve always taken time to explain my “nuthugger fanbois” perspective (b. neptune c. 2013). You don’t. Mostly you just quote people and make fun of them, which is called trolling. You’re moniker says it all.

      But, hey, don’t worry about my perspective. I defended the Bargnani deal, so everything else I’ve ever said is therefore discredited.

    34. Back to relevant basketball discussions. Isn’t the problem with Jennings that he’ essentially a skinny Fat Ray? I mean, just go under the screen and dare him to beat you, right? Maybe I’m wrong but we’ve seen that movie before. Making a costly move for Lawson that eats cap seems very 2006ish, as well. Phil knows what he’s doing and will improve our strength at guard this summer. We’re exceeding expectations at this point and I doubt Phil is looking for a bandaid that gets us a couple of wins or whatever. Though I’m less sanguine on the pro prospects of J Grant than I was in training camp, I’d like to see him get the burn for now.

    35. Ty Lawson’s contract was restructured at the time of his trade to Houston so that the last year of his deal was a team option. If he sucks, we let him go. Lawson has been a great NBA player since he got drafted, but this year he’s been horrible in a system that revolves around James Harden’s freestyle isolation style of basketball. Even Dwight Howard is struggling to find shots in Houston. I think a Ty Lawson trade would give the Knicks a 28 year old guard that can penetrate, shoot, and pass the ball on a team friendly contract. It’s an aggressive move that could really benefit what we do as an offense. Imagine if Ty Lawson comes here and plays to his career standard. I’d rather have that player than potentially offering Mike Conley a max deal, and his contract expires when CP3, Westbrook, Derrick Rose (okay he sucks), and Steph Curry (okay he’s never leaving the Bay) are all free agents.

      I honestly don’t see the downfall in a Lawson trade. I don’t think it happens because we don’t have much to offer Houston and the apparent character issues, but buying low on Ty Lawson could really pay off for a team.

    36. I argued way back that the term “possession” has been modified to fit a statistical model. According to my interpretation of the official NBA rule book, a possession ends on a shot attempt. In this interpretation, an offensive rebound would create a new possession, and good offensive rebounding teams would have significantly more possessions per game than bad offensive rebounding teams. However, bad shooting but good Oreb teams would not have their PPP stats inflated by conflating shooting%s and Oreb%.

      Example: with the current model, a team could theoretically score 100 points on one possession (scored on an add-1, missed the FT, got the OReb, scored another and-1, missed the FT, got OReb, etc.) That doesn’t make sense to me. I consider a shot attempt the same as a jump ball, sort of a voluntary giving up of the possession. The resetting of the shot clock after a shot attempt sort of supports this, as does the term “loose ball foul.”

      Anyway, as Dean Oliver told me, the horse is out of the barn on this one, no point in debating it further!

    37. I think a Ty Lawson trade would give the Knicks a 28 year old guard that can penetrate, shoot, and pass the ball on a team friendly contract. It’s an aggressive move that could really benefit what we do as an offense. Imagine if Ty Lawson comes here and plays to his career standard. I’d rather have that player than potentially offering Mike Conley a max deal, and his contract expires when CP3, Westbrook, Derrick Rose (okay he sucks), and Steph Curry (okay he’s never leaving the Bay) are all free agents.

      I think Phil is really trying to get away from guys with serious character issues. I know alcoholism is a disease or whatever but I just don’t think Phil would want such a distraction on the team. And Lawson in NYC just feels like a bad idea.

      On top of that, Lawson doesn’t know how to play off the ball. And Phil has been very clear he doesn’t want or need a ball dominant PG on this team.

      Couple those with the fact that I think Phil is very invested in surrounding KP (and the other young players) with as many selfless team-first guys, and I just don’t see him trading Calderon or Lopez for a guy who is a locker room problem.

    38. Remember when JR Reid came over and the first thing he said was how he wanted to party with Oak and Mase? Ah, the good old days. Maybe Ty could give Dwill some tips for successfully “cruising in tight slacks.”

      @41 I see your point. 2011-2013 the guy was +.500 in FG%. The shooting was down last year but the assists look great and .475 is good. I think you throw away the bad stats this year. I also don’t necessarily think someone who’s played in a traditional system as a PG cannot be a part of the triangle offense. However, I do think there’s something to team first mentality and you can see the results of the good chemistry on the team right now. (I’m enjoying watching Carmelo more than ever. There should be more ink on this and will be, imho. He’s changed his game.) Alcoholism is real and NYC after a Knick game is not the cure. The guy has been in trouble but lot’s of people who are actually good people have. So IDK you know? I think Phil probably has already done his due diligence and I think we can all guess what his answer is.

    39. I think acquiring Lawson is a really interesting decision for all the reasons enumerated above. His performance track record is strong. I really doubt a motivated Lawson wouldn’t be a big asset to this team. But even with him I don’t think we are more than a 6-7 seed at best. And I can definitely see merit in the thought that it would be disruptive to team chemistry. Lawson is going to want to take a lot of shots and he’s not going to care too much about the gangly rookie. Calderon on the other hand knows the score.

      As much as I have always felt it’s a numbers game, in this case I’d probably avoid Lawson. There clearly is some upside but it’s capped by the general mediocrity up and down the lineup. The possible downside is big.

      Also, I think Lawson really thrived in a more uptempo offense. The fast break is his bread and butter and there are a lot of guys on this team who don’t do transition that well.

      Look at me, can’t even believe I am writing these things. Might banish myself to Bleacher Report for a week for this…

    40. THCJ, both r/NBA and ESPN comments are just awful. It’s very active though. The debate here is a lot more relevant AND relaxing. The stress of reading stupidity is far higher than the stress of active thought while reading everyone’s opinions here.

    41. I’d pass on Lawson. He can’t fit in Houston, he obviously is dealing with some serious issues – it just doesn’t look like a good fit. I like his game in general, though (even there, though, his game has deteriorated a bit in recent years).

    42. In Lowe’s most recent podcast, Lawson is brought up as an example of a high risk/high reward type player to help teams try and compete with San Antonio and GS. The argument makes sense as every other competing team in the league really needs to hit on one those those high reward moves to really even have a chance. The thing with the Knicks, though, is that they aren’t even remotely close to being in a position where taking on such a high risk is worth it. Right now I think it’s more important for Porzingis to grow and develop than it is to bring in another ball dominant player with behavioral problems that might get in the way of the future.

    43. Oh yeah, definitely. I’d think differently if I felt that the Knicks were, like, one piece away or something like that. For instance, I wouldn’t want the 2015 equivalent of Baron Davis on this team but I didn’t mind him on the 2011-12 Knicks, since that was more of a win-now team.

    44. According to my interpretation of the official NBA rule book, a possession ends on a shot attempt. In this interpretation, an offensive rebound would create a new possession, and good offensive rebounding teams would have significantly more possessions per game than bad offensive rebounding teams. However, bad shooting but good Oreb teams would not have their PPP stats inflated by conflating shooting%s and Oreb%.

      This is a good take, and an offensive rebound should, by definition, create a new possession, just as a turnover ends a possession before a possibility of points being scored, effectively nullifying the possession.

      But, hey, don’t worry about my perspective. I defended the Bargnani deal, so everything else I’ve ever said is therefore discredited.

      I’m with you here.

    45. The scary thing about Reddit is not the stupid ideas, but the level of support that you can see those ideas getting.

    46. I got banned on r/nba for insisting that a turnover does not take away one possession from the offending team and give an additional possession to the defending team.

      Something tells me this is like Ron Artest saying “I got suspended an entire year for saying something to a guy who threw a drink at me.”

    47. This is a good take, and an offensive rebound should, by definition, create a new possession, just as a turnover ends a possession before a possibility of points being scored, effectively nullifying the possession.

      I’ve come to see both sides of the argument. Having an equal amount of possessions per game as a “control” variable places the focus squarely on overall offensive and defensive efficiency, regardless of the reason for it. The analyst can easily look at a high PPP team with a relatively low PPS and deduce that the team must be good at offensive rebounding.

      I just think it’s more interesting and telling to look at a team with a lower PPP (under my def of possession) that generates more possessions per game via ORebs. But it is mainly an argument of semantics and aesthetics with no meaningful statistical repercussions, since the only thing that could theoretically increase a teams possessions per game is offensive rebounds, and those are so easily isolated as to make the exercise unnecessary.

    48. Reddit is better for content, and since ~2009 or so, the user base is so huge that the avg voting IQ is much lower than before. That said, content is great, and you’ll find many lurking experts in there with gems. That, and their NBA player AMA’s are awesome (check out this great one from Ty Lawson)

    49. Yeah, the content on reddit is amazing. You can see why someone like Bill Simmons finds it a very valuable resource.

    50. Jennings improved a lot last year and was having a nice season before he got injured. He signed a modest contract after his rookie deal expired, and was a + producer relative to it. I think he can help a team, especially one with poor PG options like the NYKnicks.

      Another player that is interesting is John Henson. He signed a $40 mil extension, but is now buried beneath Monroe AND Miles Plumlee. Henson’s per36 numbers are strong (15pts, 10rebs, 4blks). He’s only getting 15 mins per game though. If the Bucks cut bait on him, NY might be able to offer some of their reasonable shorter contracts for him, or perhaps take him on in a 3-team trade if the Bucks seek guard help (their guards are injured a lot and they have playoff expectations this year).

    51. Once one of Lawson’s biggest supporters in Denver, I’m not nearly as bullish on him as others here. First, the idea that he struggled because of Harden’s isolation tendencies is absurd. The Rockets were 16th in the league in assist rate last season, and that’s with the ridiculous FT rates of Harden and Howard. I’m sure adjusted for that, the Rockets were somewhere in the top 10 in true passing.

      Harden creates a ton of defensive attention and is a deft passer. Isolations have become so stigmatized. Good isolation players create double-teams and double-teams are great for team basketball.

      When Lawson played with Melo in Denver, prior to full embrace of transition basketball prior to the trade, he took advantage of the openings created on the weak-side of the defense.

      He’s not doing that anymore and he’s not running despite given every opportunity in Houston. He’s every bit as bad as Calderon defensively despite far superior athleticism. He’s not a great shot-maker.

      While Lopez has struggled so far, he will at least always provide rim protection, and there’s more reason to believe Lopez will turn it around than there is Lawson will.

      Again, Lawson has been given every opportunity to be himself in Houston, and he’s shown no desire to run or attack — the things that once made him good.

    52. Just a word on Derrick and his .75M loss. I don’t care who you are. When you lose that kind of bread it hurts.

      And IMO, if I’m the coach, I would make it VERY tough on the party animals on my team. For instance, I would have sent JR to the D-League and make him play in places like Idaho, Iowa and Eerie for a week if he came to practice or a game looking like he spent the night with a hookah or a hooker. These are kids who have more disposable cash than the entire nation of Chad.

      I hope D-Will comes out and plays angry tonight.

    53. Just a word on Derrick and his .75M loss. I don’t care who you are. When you lose that kind of bread it hurts.

      Like I said, if we imagine that the government, agents and lawyers have taken about half of his $20 million lifetime earnings, and he hasn’t spent a cent since he entered the league, that disappearing briefcase could be anywhere from 7-10% of his total lifetime net income. Poof!

    54. No KO’Q tonight -__- he’s been a big part of the recent success so hopefully we can still get by. Probably a healthy helping of Seraphin tonight, which, yuck.

    55. guys. there was no robbery. derrick williams woke on saturday and said, ‘hey i’m derrick williams; how am i only taking home two women from the club on a night i go for 17?’ what’s the cheapest way to improve the messaging of the go home with the former #2 pick campaign?

    56. btw, i know seraphin will play with KOQ out, but it makes a ton more sense to play Lou against the stretch bigs Orlando will have on the floor, whether they are residual starter mintues like Vuc & Frye or backups like Nicholson and JAH. also seraphin is bad.

    57. Seraphin’s defense isn’t the problem, he’s actually been pretty good on that end. It’s that he destroys the offense by standing in the strong side post and not moving until he gets the ball at which point if there’s not an obvious pass to a cutter for an assist he will put up a really awful hook shot.

    58. totally disagree, he blocks a few shots and isn’t a zero, but never gets back in transition and once he rotates once he becomes lost in space for the rest of the possession often leading to wide open shooters

      edit: i should say never, he actually had a couple games where he was awesome at getting back in transition but it didn’t last

    59. Ty Lawson is still young and relatively injury free. If he’s clean and dedicated to getting his career back on track, imo he can recover his best form elsewhere. The thing is, he was in the PERFECT spot in Denver under Karl and it’s unlikely he can find as suitable a situation going forward even if the new teams gives him some freedom and plays at a fast pace. All that said, like I said in a previous thread, I think there’s almost no chance the Knicks are interested in an undersized PG that plays like Lawson.

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