Knicks Morning News (2015.11.01)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks pull off magic act, beat Wizards as Carmelo scores 37 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 06:43:24 GMT)

    At shootaround Saturday morning, Carmelo Anthony said his jump shot still didn’t feel right.

  • [New York Times] NBA Capsules (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 06:36:39 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 53 points, taking over the game with a 28-point third quarter, and unbeaten Golden State defeated winless New Orleans 134-120 to ruin the Pelicans’ home opener Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Griffin’s 37 Points Helps Clippers Beat Kings 114-109 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 06:30:43 GMT)

    Blake Griffin had 37 points, nine rebounds and six assists to lead the Los Angeles Clippers to a 114-109 victory over the Sacramento Kings on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Bledsoe Has 33 and Suns Beat Blazers 101-90 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:45:38 GMT)

    Eric Bledsoe got the best of the Portland Trail Blazers again.

  • [New York Times] Roundup: Jazz Take Control of Pacers With a Second-Half Spree (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:29:13 GMT)

    Derrick Favors scored 18 points and the Utah Jazz outscored the Pacers by 33 points in the second half for a 97-76 victory Saturday night in Indianapolis.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 117, Wizards 110: Carmelo Anthony Breaks Out in Knicks’ Road Win (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:42 GMT)

    The Knicks ruined Washington’s home opener, with Anthony scoring 37 points.

  • [New York Times] Curry’s Big 3rd Quarter Leads Warriors Past Pelicans 134-120 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:06:41 GMT)

    Stephen Curry couldn’t get the smile off of his face as he trotted back on defense.

  • [New York Times] Curry Lights Up Pelicans, Scoreboard for 53 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 04:54:27 GMT)

    Reigning MVP Stephen Curry scored 53 points and defending champions Golden State won their third consecutive game to open the season with a 134-120 win over the New Orleans Pelicans on Saturday.

  • [New York Times] Favors Leads Jazz to Easy 97-76 Win Over Pacers (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 03:39:40 GMT)

    Derrick Favors scored 18 points and the Utah Jazz outscored the Indiana Pacers by 28 in the second half of a 97-76 victory Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Conley Scores 22 Points as Grizzlies Defeat Nets 101-91 (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 02:51:42 GMT)

    Mike Conley scored 22 points, including 10 straight in the fourth quarter, and had eight assists to lead the Memphis Grizzlies to a 101-91 victory over the Brooklyn Nets on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Anthony’s 37 Points Lead Knicks to 117-110 Win Over Wizards (Sun, 01 Nov 2015 02:18:52 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony scored 37 points and the New York Knicks ruined Washington’s home opener, beating the Wizards 117-110 on Saturday night.

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    79 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.11.01)”

    1. This team has so much more depth.
      They will be so tough to beat when Melo is on, and they can grind out wins when he is not.
      When was the last time we could say that?
      And the Porter layup aside, the Knicks have some strong interior defense.
      Wall did all his damage in the first half against our slower guards, but when Fisher went to our quicker guards, they essentially marginalized him.
      Five Knicks in double digits, four others with seven or eight points. Five Knicks with six or better rebounds. Eight steals, five blocks.
      47.4% from 3pt. 47.7% from 2pt.
      A quality win against a quality opponent.
      Nothing fly by night about it.

    2. Agreed. Is Fisher finally cashing in on the potential we thought he had as a coach? I like what he’s done so far. More importantly, this looks like a team that gets it. Guys seem more concerned with playing the right way and winning than they are with stats. On top of that, Melo is making more of an effort to get guys involved and playing better defensively. Isn’t that what we all hoped for Melo to do his entire Knick career? Granted, it’s only 3 games in, but it’s still very encouraging nonetheless.

    3. Both wins have been quality wins. Any road win is good for any team.

      Good depth this year and some upside with Porzingis, Galloway, Grant, and (hopefully) Early if he can get some playing time. We really can’t complain about Lance Thomas’s minutes, at least not yet, because he seems to play solid D and has been efficient on offense, too.

      Still, it is very early on. Small sample sizes and such, but Jackson’s offseason moves look very good so far. Lopez and O’Quinn have brought some toughness to the interior D.

    4. Totes wrote yesterday: I also think that Grant has great chemistry with everyone, especially KP and Galloway.

      THIS!! is what makes me very optimistic for our future. Per nbawowy, when those 3 were on the court together, the team had a .60 TS, .57eFG, and plus PPP differential of .43! OK so it’s only 11 minutes of data but this is the time of year to misuse stats and make wild-eyed projections before the dreary reality of winter sets in. There is some real logic to be hopeful here. What do the the 3 of them have in common? They’re very young. Very important but what else. They’re 2-way players. Huge given our history. Put Galloway on opposing 1’s and Zinger’s “Dwight Effect” and we’re looking good on D. On offense, Grant/Zinger PnRs rate to be very productive. Anything else these 3 have in common? How about Clarence freakin’ Gaines? Dude’s a genius! I only hope Phil and Fish will give these guys a lot of minutes together to further develop this burgeoning chemistry.

    5. As I said during the off-season, it’s not really useful to compare this team to last year’s; much more appropriate to compare it to the team that just missed the playoffs 2 years ago. It starts with having a healthy Melo. Whether he’s more team-oriented or not, he’s going to win a lot of games for us that we had no chance of winning last year. I’d sign up right now for his 2013-14 stats.
      Comparing those 2 teams:
      Melo=Melo
      Galloway=Shump
      Rolo<Chandler
      Afflalo/Thomas>JR (.073 WS48, .527 TS%)
      Grant=Felton
      Calderon>>Bargnani
      O'Quinn=Amare
      Vujacic>Hardaway
      O'Quinn+DWill>KMart+Tyler
      Rest of bench>Rest of bench
      Fisher's system>Woodson's system
      Overall team IQ/character/chemistry>>>Overall team IQ/character/chemistry

      So there really isn't any reason on paper to believe that this is a worse team than that one was. This team's floor is higher than Vegas gives it because Vegas doesn't flush last year the way it should be flushed.

    6. Langston Galloway is already better than Shumpert was as a Knick because he can kill a team if they let him shoot it from deep and he can handle the ball. Shump could guard anyone from 1-3, but he couldn’t contribute as consistently offensively as Galloway.

    7. Z-Man, you left out your boy Zinger in your comparisons!

      Melo=Melo
      Galloway > Shump
      Zinger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bargs
      KOQ > Amare
      Grant >= Felton
      Calderon < Prigs
      Lopez < Tyson
      Vujacic=Hardaway
      Dwill <= JR

    8. And Grant is better than Felton because Grant won’t shoot you out of a game. He plays like a more athletic Pablo Prigioni right now, and I think we’d all agree that athleticism is the only thing that kept Pablo from removing Ray from the starting line up. I’d argue that Grant, Calderon, Galloway, Afflalo, and Vujacic is the best guard rotation we’ve had in years.

    9. Agreed, massive, although I think it’s more about the b-ball IQ/character thing.

      Also left out Prigs, something in the formatting messed up my comparisons

    10. The larger point is that this team compares very favorably to that 37-win team and there is no reason on paper right now to believe that this team can’t surpass that team’s record. In other words, the Vegas line is artificially deflated by incorporating last year’s record.

    11. Another interesting nugget this year- everyone has been saying that Fish wants to play faster, but I don’t think anyone expected it to this extent. Current pace is 101.7 possessions per 48, up from 91 last year per B-R. If those stats can be believed (not sure if methodology is messed up?) that is faster than GS played last year (98.3).

    12. Other things I’m seeing thus far:
      *Vujacic is not washed up…he looks physically equivalent to where he was with the championship Lakers
      *Thomas is worth every penny of his minimum + a pittance salary
      *Galloway is a very solid 2-way player with a huge heart
      *Zinger and Grant are at worst solid rotation players. Both guys are very intelligent and sensitive about not trying to do too much. Both are adjusting to the size/speed/skill of their opponents.
      *DWill is probably an inconsistent but valuable second-unit player He will have lots of great games and lots of clunkers, and Fisher’s ability to use him strategically is the key. His overall stats will probably not be that good due to inconsistency, but when he’s hot, he can be a huge x-factor.
      *O’Quinn is a presence on both ends, but has terrible footwork. The dude should do nothing but agility/footwork drills next off-season.

    13. Agree, Frank, I love the uptempo feel, although it does seem to marginalize RoLo a bit. But as we know, playoff basketball in the east is still halfcourt oriented. Playoff basketball…maybe?!

    14. In other words, the Vegas line is artificially deflated by incorporating last year’s record.

      +1

      Is Fisher finally cashing in on the potential we thought he had as a coach?

      Maybe. It took balls to play Thomas, Vuc, and Galloway down the stretch but it worked.

      And Grant is better than Felton because Grant won’t shoot you out of a game.

      Amen, I’m seeing better decision making if not great execution yet.

      I’m starting to see the triangle bearing fruit but you can also see the growing pains. Fisher wants everyone to be a facilitator. Oaq struggled passing out of the post. Anthony and Williams need to make quicker decisions (dwill needs to look up, period). I liked that all the guards ran p and r’s. Vuc did that really well, played great d, iritated the shit out of Beal and Wall, and you know his shot will fall better in the future.

      I know it’s (Cleanthony) Early but what a win! Really any win is big after the hell of last season. I agree that it’s new this year and comps are invalid but I’m not taking any w’s for (Jerian) Granted. “See what I did there? I’ll show myself out”, btw where is Silverman?

    15. Langston Galloway through three games has the NBA’s highest ORtg at 160. He and Carmelo Anthony need to spend more time on the floor together.

    16. While I have some concerns about Fish, I do think he’s been treated unfairly so far. In addition to playing more up-tempo, he really appears to have all the players motivated and playing with great energy, giving everybody except Early minutes. Isn’t leadership/connection to the players supposed to be one of Fish’s key strengths compared to someone like Kerr? He also appears to be more flexible in “breaking” the Triangle to adapt to player’s abilities. Unlike Monroe, Lopez and O’Quinn are not really post-up guys but they’re able to knock down mid-range shots and set picks; I’m hopeful he will adapt the Triangle to somehow incorporate that reality while still maintaining a lot of the ball and player movement which facilitates team concept.

    17. Langston Galloway through three games has the NBA’s highest ORtg at 160.

      Of all the good stories that might be the best.

      If we’re at or around .500 in February do we have to worry about Dolan trading everyone for Boogie? If another Melodrama goes down I’m done for reals.

    18. We are like 10 more good Galloway games away from needing to extend him before he gets expensive. Maybe fewer

    19. I was just about to ask about galloway’s contract status. Looks like o’quinn is our only value contract outside of the rooks.

    20. Also,y’all some high variance posters. Wasn’t Fisher a bumbling idiot like 2 days ago?

      We’re finding out new stuff every day. So, opinions change. The team did look like doodoo against ATL and of course last year is what it was but If you look at the game last night I think it’s fair to give him a good grade on his performance. What do you think Dred? Did he do a good job last night? Has he done a good job so far this season?

    21. I hope the defense becomes a little more consistent. I’m happy with the start to the season but I get the sense that fish is prioritizing offense more than defense.

    22. I mean, last year when we were 2-1 we (myself included) were so happy we had a coach better than Woodson.

    23. I was just about to ask about galloway’s contract status. Looks like o’quinn is our only value contract outside of the rooks.

      Galloway will be a RFA this summer according to Spotrac meaning we will be able to go over the cap to re-sign him. If he maintains a 3FG% of 37%, he’s an above average SG given his ability to guard 1’s and also provide some playmaking ability. Zinger, Grant, Galloway, O’Quinn all look to me to be average+ rotation players and good values. Even if Lopez ends up as a backup, I think his contract is decent value in light of the cap. Hard not to be optimistic when you have a young group of 5 relatively inexpensive rotation players who rate to be above average.

    24. A couple more things.

      Carmelo was a beast last night. He won’t win MVP probably but that was as good as anyone in the association last night. The shot with the clock running down at the end was pure Steph Curry type magic. Gotta not take this guy for granted. Worked well off of two beautiful assists from Rolo. Learning to utilize the triangle and still room to grow in that regard.

      Lance Thomas is one reason why I think Fisher is doing a good job this year. 13-19 on the very young season. 5-5 against MIL 2-6 against ATL but both were threes and 6-8 last night. Playing crunch time minutes. Great d, solid decision making. Says a lot about him but also a lot about the coach teaching him how to play and finding him a role. You could say the same about other players as well.

    25. Thomas has been the most pleasant surprise for me, just given how he still looked like Lance Thomas in the pre-season. Everybody else is carrying forward what they did in those exhibition games.

    26. Toney Douglas dropped 17 on the defending champs last night

      OKOK I hear you. I promise to post when they lose this year as well and not to go to extremes either way for a while.

    27. Some telling stats:
      Galloway is averaging 17.5 pts/36 on a 13.8 usage %.
      Five Knick rotation players averaging 4+ assists/36, none more than 5.8. Calderon is not in this group.
      Ten Knicks averaging 18+ mpg, none more than 32 (Melo).
      Knicks leading the league in steals per game (9.7)
      Knicks are #2 in FTs made per game (24.7)

    28. I think one of the reasons we’re all skeptical on Thomas is that he just looks so clumsy and ungainly out there. His moves don’t look they come naturally and he’s not all that quick on his feet either.

      But somehow, some way, the guy is getting it done. He does have a pretty good knack for finishing around the rim, and did he really guard John Wall in the 4th quarter? That’s amazing in itself.

    29. Such games (since 1986) are rare in general, unless your name is Barkley or Malone. Only 6 guys have more than 20 such games.

      Melo 14
      Michael Jordan 14
      LeBron 23
      Kobe 18
      Harden 18
      Bosh 12
      Steph 6
      Durant 21
      Ewing 18
      Barkley 42
      Ray Allen 14
      Wade 15
      Amar’e 13
      Dantley 12
      Admiral 10
      Rice 13
      Pierce 15
      Paul 6
      Hakeem 8
      Shaq 28
      Dirk 18
      Mullen 12
      Reggie 21
      Kevin Martin 12
      Karl Malone 42

    30. I just don’t get the point of the back-handed compliment. Did anyone suggest that we could expect this from Melo on a regular basis?

    31. The Knicks are a better coached and have a smarter front office than the freaking NY Giants now. What the fuck has this world come to.

    32. I don’t expect 37 on 18 shots from Melo every night, no. But it’s nice that he did it last night, coming off of surgery. We now know he’s still in his prime. That was a question mark.

      Could this be the start of a new more efficient Melo? A more integrated Melo? The couple of assists from Rolo made his life a lot easier on those possessions, I’ll say that, and he threw some dynamic skip passes out of double teams (too) late in the clock that resulted in assists for him. The 18 attempts (only) are a good sign. We don’t wanna be overly reliant on Melo. We need to win when he’s less efficient and early returns are promising that others can make up for any inconsistencies.

      That good most nights? No. Pretty damn great a lot of nights and his teammates pick him up on the others? Maybe.

    33. Well, it’s pretty early in the season, so I’m still a bit skeptical about this team. So far, so good.

      Last year was this team’s first attempt at playing “system basketball,” AKA the Triangle, and the Knicks really did not have very good personnel in terms of talent or fit. The talented players did not fit the system, and the players that fit the system were not talented. This year the whole operation looks a lot less Frankenstein-ish and a lot more like something that somebody has put some thought into. Last year we had Amar’e Stoudemire, Andrea Bargnani, JR Smith and Iman Shumpert, all of whom were comically ill-suited to playing in the triangle offense. This year’s team has a lot more high-IQ, team-oriented players on it.

      Like I said, it’s only three games so let’s wait and see, but maybe Phil Jackson knows what he is doing. Maybe there is something to this whole triangle thing.

    34. The whole triangle thing is overblown, imo. It’s just a foundation. The main thing is that it requires players to make quick reads and to maintain spacing. But clearly, Fisher/Jackson are incorporating more high P&R than last year, and shooting plenty of 3-pointers i.e it’s goink well.

      John Wall: “They are not running the same offense as last year. They’ve added some more pace to their game, they are running more pick-and-rolls, and they put us in tough situations where we had to rotate and they were getting offensive rebounds and put-backs.”

    35. Leading the league in steals is pretty significant. My guess is that a steal is the most efficient end of a defensive possession, in terms of points produced on the ensuing offensive possession (is there a stat for that?)

    36. Melo played great and looked like a real team leader.

      Galloway is a total warrior!

      Is Sasha the Lance Thomas of the backcourt?

      Wouldn’t it be something if Phil sees something in Jimmer that the other teams have missed ala Derrick Williamd and he becomes a lights out 3 pt shooter for us down the road?

    37. Perfect San Antonio game. They had to bust their asses, but they also won, so they won’t have a chip on their shoulder going into tomorrow! Could be a good chance for the Knicks!! 3-1 would be amazing!!

    38. I know it’s in my DNA to hate the Celtics, but I watched most of their game vs. San Antonio, and I’m trying to figure out what all the hype is about (I think one prognosticator picked them to win 48 games) The Spurs played awfully and still won, and Boston down the stretch depended on Isaiah Thomas doing his best Allan Iverson imitation and dominating the offense. They have a lot of okay players who play pretty hard, and I guess their coach is the 2nd coming of Popovich, but the team as constructed? I just don’t see them being much more than a perennial fringe East playoff team. And as we saw on draft day, maybe that boatload of mostly lottery protected draft picks doesn’t facilitate the blockbuster deal that Ainge will supposedly pull off this year or next to bring in a top free agent.

    39. 3-1 would be amazing!!

      Despite the tough back-to-back for San Antonio, 3-1 would be a minor miracle.

    40. I like what Lance has been doing but it makes me think back to when Ronnie Brewer came out fire hot. Hopefully he can keep it going longer and be a glue guy. If at least one of Williams and Thomas can have a good night the bench mob will be okay. Who knows maybe Early can get some burn and contribute if those two can’t.

    41. I do believe the celts have either the nets next two picks or swap rights. This nets team is pitiful, and those assets will be much more valuable than the pupu platter they were offering last year.

      That said- yes- they have a bunch of average to above average players. I don’t think they are more talented than the Knicks by any stretch.

    42. I think it was Justin Termine on Sirius NBA radio who described the Celts as a team composed of the 7th-best players on every NBA roster.

    43. They are running a more high paced version of what they ran after the All Star break last year. Also the high PNR is an option within the Triangle that they are simply flowing in to earlier in sets before flowing in to the traditional Triangle set later in the shot clock.

    44. I like what Lance has been doing but it makes me think back to when Ronnie Brewer came out fire hot. Hopefully he can keep it going longer and be a glue guy. If at least one of Williams and Thomas can have a good night the bench mob will be okay. Who knows maybe Early can get some burn and contribute if those two can’t.

      They flat out kicked Milwaukee’s ass and would have done so with or without him, but if Thomas had not played as well last night, odds are they lose to Washington. In other words, they really need him to keep this up, because having a strong performance from him out of absolutely nowhere is just amazing and really pushes them over the line a bit (like lets say that they are, as a whole, an X, but with him giving them such unexpectedly strong production, that bumps it up to an X+Y and now suddenly they’re winning games they wouldn’t have won had they still been an X).

    45. Man, if James Harden weren’t such a walking free throw, he’d be having an absolutely atrocious scoring game tonight. 0-9 from 3, 16pts on 14 shots thanks to 12-14 from the line.

    46. Well, there’s no way Lance is gonna sustain a .700+ TS%. I suppose if he takes 6 FGA at a 15% usage, he can’t hurt much on O. What’s weird is that his other advanced stats seem to be horrible…no rebounding, blocks or steals, lots of turnovers. So you have to wonder what happens when he starts missing. He definitely seems to have some intangibles going for him, like being an x-factor defensively even without the blocks, steals or rebounds. Do his Synergy stats say anything about that?

    47. Re: Jimmer — Does anyone else think that, if he, Thanasis, Trice, Atkins and Saunders are all on the team, the Westchester Knicks might be a really fun team to watch?

    48. Yes, but if any of them play well, won’t some other team snap them up? The guy I like the most right now is Trice, but who knows?

    49. Man, if James Harden weren’t such a walking free throw, he’d be having an absolutely atrocious scoring game tonight. 0-9 from 3, 16pts on 14 shots thanks to 12-14 from the line.

      So over his first 3 games, he’s a mind boggling 12-54 (22%) from 2 and 3-32 from 3 (.09%).

      I assume he’ll come around at some point, but those numbers are astoundingly putrid (even for Melo) (-:

    50. Yeah these have not been harden’s best games. 18 ppg using 27 possessions per game (per game – 18 shots, ~4.5 possessions on FTs, and 4 TOs). Ugly. But I’m sure it’s short lived. Unfortunately.

    51. The more I look at the stats, the more it is apparent that Galloway has been our best player and the biggest reason why we are 2-1. He’s leading the league in ORtg, has a PER of 23.6 and a WS48 of .304!!
      His shooting %s are .500, .667 and .889. He’s averaging 17.5 pts, 6.9 rebs, 4.6 assts and 0.5 TOs per 36. Obviously the 3pt% is going to come down, but he’s 6MOY material right now!

    52. The more I look at the stats, the more it is apparent that Galloway has been our best player and the biggest reason why we are 2-1. He’s leading the league in ORtg, has a PER of 23.6 and a WS48 of .304!!
      His shooting %s are .500, .667 and .889. He’s averaging 17.5 pts, 6.9 rebs, 4.6 assts and 0.5 TOs per 36. Obviously the 3pt% is going to come down, but he’s 6MOY material right now!

      I do agree that he’s been excellent, but I think he was already a decent enough player (and specifically the type of player that they need with this particular team – namely a great defensive guard) that we sort of kind of expected him to do well. Not this well, of course, but well. So that’s why I think Thomas’ play has been even more valuable, as it came from essentially nowhere. It’s like just adding a good player out of thin air. That’s huge.

    53. That is a brainfart of epic proportions. I like Terry, but he’s been pretty dreadful this series.

    54. How come the announcers aren’t talking about how because of Wright’s bad back, he throws sidearm and with no velocity to first? That made a big difference in terms of Duda having to rush his throw home.

    55. Joe Torre is sitting in the stands watching this and thanking God that he had Mariano Rivera as his closer making his decisions very easy to make late in games.

    56. Familia gave up that jack to Gordon but these last two blown saves aren’t on him. He should have had an opportunity to get the third out in the last two outings.

      This Series will be a referendum on the greatness of the old school baseball but the Mets could easily have won it tonight, by which I mean the whole series.

    57. Bottom line: the only thing the Mets have had the edge in is starting pitching, and I guess power although that’s debatable when Cespedes and Duda aren’t hot. Everything else is in the Royal’s favor…situational hitting, speed, defense, relief pitching, experience, and clearly, managing. Still, it hurts when you blow numerous golden opportunities.

    58. If they lose tonight, they will have had leads in the 8th inning of four of the five games, right?

      Can’t get much closer than that. Proud of them no matter what.

    59. On Lance (NYP):

      Other than working tirelessly on his jump shot, Thomas told The Post he put on 15 pounds of muscle over the summer — going from 225 pounds to 240. Most offseasons he hit the weights twice a week. This summer, five times per. Thomas’ body fat percentage is among the Knicks’ leanest at 7.5 percent.

      “I feel I’m running the floor better — stronger guarding guys in the post, finish and-1 shots better,’’ Thomas said. “You feel stronger and there’s a pep in my step.’’

      According to the coaches, Thomas is their most talkative guy on defense, is the best at getting back in transition, can guard 1-to-5 and is often put on the opponent’s best player for a spot. It doesn’t hurt he’s a former teammate of free-agent-to-be Kevin Durant.

      “What I bring is pretty unique,’’ Thomas said. “I do all the dirty work most guys don’t like to do. I do it. I embrace it. There’s a job for people like that in the league.’’

    60. I need to stop doing acids, I swear I saw Dallas putting Raymond Felton at SF down the stretch (with JJ as the SG, even).

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