Knicks Morning News (2015.04.14)

  • [New York Post] This impending free agent would love to be a Knick next year (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:22:53 -0400)

    ATLANTA — Hawks swingman DeMarre Carroll, one of the unsung free agents on an unsung team, is not afraid of the big stage and revealed the Knicks will be a…

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks stun East’s best team, beat Hawks 112-108 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:14:30 GMT)

    Derek Fisher already has stated that the Knicks are aiming high and shooting for a significant improvement for next season.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Eke Out 6th Straight Win, 110-103 Over Nuggets (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 06:17:11 GMT)

    Trailing by six, the Clippers huddled during a timeout and told themselves they were going to win.

  • [New York Times] Teams Battle for NBA Playoff Berths, Seeds at End of Season (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:14:01 GMT)

    With two days left in the NBA’s regular season, the playoffs virtually have already begun for a handful of teams.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Pull Away From Mavericks in 2nd Half for 109-92 Victory (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:07:58 GMT)

    The Utah Jazz were without Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors and Trey Burke for the second consecutive game Monday. For the second game in a row, the Jazz beat a playoff team.

  • [New York Times] Klay Thompson Scores 42, Warriors Down Memphis 111-107 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:05:09 GMT)

    Klay Thompson scored 26 of his 42 points in a sensational second quarter, and the Golden State Warriors beat the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies 111-107 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] NBA Capsules (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 04:34:58 GMT)

    Anthony Davis had 24 points, 11 rebounds and six blocks to move the New Orleans Pelicans one step closer to a playoff berth with a 100-88 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Casspi Helps Kings Beat Lakers 102-92 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 04:31:57 GMT)

    Omri Casspi had 26 points, nine rebounds and six assists to help the Sacramento Kings beat the Los Angeles Lakers 102-92 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook Scores 36; Thunder Beat Trail Blazers 101-90 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 04:07:57 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook made the most of his second chance.

  • [New York Times] Bulls 113, Nets 86: Routed by Bulls, Nets Still Hope for Playoffs but Need Help (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 04:04:07 GMT)

    Chicago’s Derrick Rose led the way with 13 points and 7 assists in 23 minutes of a rout that cost the Nets control of their postseason destiny.

  • [New York Times] Pelicans Close In on Playoff Berth With Win Over Wolves (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:47:02 GMT)

    Anthony Davis and the New Orleans Pelicans have been fighting for their playoff lives for more than a month.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Playoff Spot Still in Reach for the Heat (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:39:10 GMT)

    Hassan Whiteside tied a career high with 24 points and grabbed 13 rebounds as Miami beat the visiting Orlando Magic, 100-93.

  • [New York Times] Galloway Scores 26 Points, Knicks Stun Hawks 112-108 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:28:54 GMT)

    The East-leading Atlanta Hawks received a jarring wake-up call with the playoffs less than a week away.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Rout Nets, Clinch Home-Court Advantage in 1st Round (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:10:58 GMT)

    Derrick Rose wasn’t even aware the Chicago Bulls had clinched home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs.

  • [New York Times] Carter-Williams Scores 30, Bucks Beat 76ers 107-97 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:50:01 GMT)

    Michael Carter-Williams showed the 76ers what they are missing, and the Milwaukee Bucks displayed in the second half why they are a playoff team.

  • [New York Times] Rockets’ James Harden Chases M.V.P. With a Blizzard of Free Throws (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:49:24 GMT)

    On his way to what could be an N.B.A. scoring title, Harden has been drawing fouls and sinking free throws at an impressive rate.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Gets Triple-Double, Cavs Roll Pistons 109-97 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:44:03 GMT)

    LeBron James returned to work rested and without a trace of rust. Kyrie Irving may need more time off.

  • [New York Times] Heat Remain Alive, Hang On to Top Magic 100-93 (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:19:55 GMT)

    For the Miami Heat, there is still playoff hope.

  • [New York Times] Harden Scores 29, Rockets Beat Hornets (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:31:55 GMT)

    James Harden scored 29 points, Josh Smith had a double-double and the Houston Rockets defeated the Charlotte Hornets for the ninth straight time 100-90 on Monday night.

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] How Knicks could fall to sixth in lottery (Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:55:25 ET)

    How Knicks could fall to sixth in lottery

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    67 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.04.14)”

    1. So, Demarre Carroll would like to play for the Knicks — either that or he is trying to pump up his price with the Hawks by expressing interest in the Knicks which, now that I think about it, is a more likely scenario. In any event, depending on who else they draft/sign, I think that he would be a great pickup at $6-$8 million. Anyone else agree?

    2. After last night I have become 100% convinced that the key to curing the Knicks ails is to get the entire organization in a room with a hypnotist and have them all brainwashed to believe that the object of the game of basketball is to put the ball through the hoop as infrequently as possible. Overnight we would become the best organization in the league, because to be quite honest, we’re the San Antonio Spurs of incompetence. Whatever the Knicks set their minds to there is no end to the ways they can find to mess it up.

      Truly, the one silver lining in last night’s game is that the actual lottery portion of the draft is completely random, so at least our incompetence can’t hurt us there. So no matter how many times we shoot ourselves in the foot we’re still going to have a chance. And the playoffs start this weekend, so at least there’s some good basketball to look forward to.

    3. I think that he would be a great pickup at $6-$8 million. Anyone else agree?

      At that price-absolutely. He’s 28, so this is probably peak Carroll, but even if he declines a lot he’s still decent at that number and there’s a good chance he’ll outperform that contract.

      Still, I am saving my 6-8 million fantasy wiz bucks for Cory Joseph.

    4. All the knocks on Wiggins are true: He hasn’t shot well, he doesn’t pass or rebound much, his 3-point shot has vanished (thanks, Flip!), and he’s piling up numbers on a team with few other scoring options.

      According to Zach Lowe, that makes you rookie of the year.

    5. So, this abomination of a team that had the #1 lottery seed locked up is giving everything it has to tie Philly for #2-3 slot on the last day of the season.
      Can’t blame the players. Can’t blame the coach.

    6. Wiggins hasn’t been great, but I think Lowe is essentially right that it’s a year without a great candidate. I’d probably vote Mirotic at this point, because I think he has been clearly the best rookie in his playing time but he has 1600 minutes played. Wiggins has 2900. That’s a hefty gap. I can see the argument for Wiggins.

    7. From DRed talking Klay for Love deal, in last thread:

      If you do something dumb and it works out well for you, was it a dumb thing to do?

      The problem is how do you know if it was dumb? We are using very basic statistics to analyze players. According to those statistics, it was a dumb move. But there is more to basketball than what we are using. GS might have known better, and i am including ‘eye test’ but also better statistics. (Not to mention that defense is an important part of what makes Klay Thompson valuable respect to Kevin Love)

    8. Playing 2900 minutes of fairly unproductive basketball is better than 1600 minutes of productive basketball because it’s more minutes?

    9. iserp, I’m not saying definitely that Golden State was dumb for not doing the Love for Thompson deal. I’m saying you can’t look at Klay Thompson having a terrific season and say ‘see, that wasn’t dumb’.

    10. Playing 2900 minutes of fairly unproductive basketball is better than 1600 minutes of productive basketball because it’s more minutes?

      Obviously it depends on how relatively productive or unproductive you think the two guys were, but minutes do matter right? As I said above I would personally probably vote for Mirotic, but I don’t think it’s insane to feel that Wiggins’ full season is “better” (whatever that means to you) than Mirotic’s half season. I was just highlighting the minutes discrepancy. Anyway I really don’t give even a single shit about individual awards, and Rookie of the Year is particularly uninteresting so that’s all I’m going to say about that.

    11. Phew, I just woke up from a terrible nightmare where the Knicks won back to back tight games on the road to potentially crush Phil Jackson’s plan to rebuild by getting a franchise changer via the draft. Wait, you mean it wasn’t a nightmare? It was real? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    12. Don’t worry guys, remember the basketball gods do have a say on how the ping pong balls go. Teams trying to tank, dont always get rewarded, call it karma. So maybe in a weird way this win streak gets us the luck we need to secure that #1 pick. #HoldingOnToHope

    13. Minutes do matter, but if you’re not a very effective basketball player, they don’t matter in the way Zach Lowe seems to think they do. If you don’t shoot, pass or rebound well, playing lots of minutes is going to make your team lose more games. I completely understand Minnesota playing Wiggins lots of minutes, and I think he’s still a fine prospect-he’s just nowhere close to being the rookie of the year.

    14. Who the hell thought Clevelend would get the #1 pick last year? They actually tried to make the playoffs at the end of the year.

    15. I think it’s close to impossible to know how Love would have played on GS since he’s being so drastically underutilized by the Cavs. He’s a glorified floor pacer for the Cavs. We already know he can do way more than that. In Kerr’s offense, he might be doing a lot more.

    16. The Knicks have a lot of bad karma leftover from that sexual harassment scandal along with James Dolan’s general fuckheadedness, jkhar–the “basketball gods” don’t exist, and if they did, they certainly wouldn’t be rewarding the Knicks with anything. We’ve been the worst run sports franchise of the past 15 years with the worst owner excepting Donald Sterling.

    17. Steve Kerr could have put more importance on the team chemistry, and defense, then he did on just offense. In that case he looks to be right…

    18. Alecto-
      I know, we all know, but at some point things change. Why can’t it start now, said the eternal optimist…soon to be called fanboy and shill I’m sure :)

    19. Is it possible to get Monroe + Joseph + Carroll + our draft pick? It seems like from my rough math it’s really close and that’s if Carroll and Joseph take the lower end of 6-8 million and we don’t sign any other players pretty much above the minimum or close to it–but i get confused with the cap holds and everything so idk.

      EDIT: Actually I forgot how much high draft picks earn on rookie scale–it doesn’t look like we’d be able to do all 4 unless we moved Calderon.

    20. In Kerr’s offense, he might be doing a lot more

      But Kerr was the one that preferred Thompson over Love. So Kerr is either succeeding by dumb luck, or he knew what he wanted to implement and thought Thompson was better suited for it. (And Golden State is the #1 defense in the league, and the gulf between Love and Thompson defensively appears to be quite vast. But, who knows, maybe if the “smart” people had it their way Golden State would have won 70 games.)

    21. “EDIT: Actually I forgot how much high draft picks earn on rookie scale–it doesn’t look like we’d be able to do all 4 unless we moved Calderon.”
      One small “advantage” to having the 6th pick instead of the 1st — I don’t have the exact numbers but the guy who is picked 6th will make about $2.5 million while the guy who is picked 1st will make almost twice that, so picking 6th results in a couple million more in cap space.

    22. There is a huge game tonight for the Knicks to watch: Pacers v Wizards in Indianapolis.

      If Pacers win, Miami is eliminated, putting them in full-on desperation tank mode to hang on to their lottery pick.

      Miami plays Philadelphia tomorrow, the team that they would lose their pick to if they win, in what could be the most colossal Tank-Off in sports history.

    23. Actually, Love is a very good player who has had the same problems Bosh had in his first year with LeBron (and Bosh called for this exact situation). I still think that, had Mozgov arrived in Cleveland in October, Love would have been much better from the start. I think Love will be decisive in a close playoff game before May 15th and the narrative will shift a bit. That said, I agree with the fact that Kerr said no to Love because his ideas would be better realized with Klay.

    24. (Oh, and how about the Thunder drawing the Minnesota Tankers while the Pelicans have to beat the Spurs, who haven’t lost in a month.)

    25. Miami plays Philadelphia tomorrow, the team that they would lose their pick to if they win, in what could be the most colossal Tank-Off in sports history.

      Some how, some way, Riley will wind up with a better pick than the Knicks. lmao

    26. Maybe, just maybe, Kerr saw Love the way a lot of people see him: a glorified David Lee. Matador defense, small and frail for a power forward. Very good player, far from superstar level.

      Maybe if David Lee was also younger and a very good 3 point shooter.

    27. I’ve got an idea on how to fix the lottery. For 70 games, use regular standings, but for the last dozen, count a loss as a win and a win as a loss, forcing taking teams to try and win. It might make teams think twice about tanking and actually try to win … to tank.

    28. Maybe if David Lee was also younger and a very good 3 point shooter.

      He did say glorified, as in a better version. :-)

    29. I’ve got an idea on how to fix the lottery. For 70 games, use regular standings, but for the last dozen, count a loss as a win and a win as a loss, forcing taking teams to try and win. It might make teams think twice about tanking and actually try to win … to tank.

      That’s way too complicated for something for the NBA to actually use, but I think it’s quite clever and would work pretty well.

    30. The real way to get rid of tanking is to abolish the draft altogether and let teams bid on incoming players like free agents. Now there’s an idea the NBA would never consider (although every single owner would talk your ear off about the power of the free market after two scotches at a republican fundraiser).

    31. Phil Jackson just tweeted at Mary Karr and The Paris Review in what might well be the confluence of all my interests (minus Mary Karr)

    32. I had Mary Karr as a professor in college in Syracuse back in ’94. She would often talk about her young boyfriend, who I later found out was David Foster Wallace. It turned out he lived five blocks from my apartment at the time, and wrote much of my all-time favorite novel, “Infinite Jest,” during this period.

    33. Man, they had quite the torrid and terrible love affair, eh? Infinite Jest is also my favorite novel. Now Syracuse has their own little pet post-postmodern quirky middle-aged dude, George Saunders.

    34. Yeah she dated him in the early-mid 90’s right. She was writer in residence for part of my (still ongoing) time at UNC–I never took a class of hers or talked to her on campus and she’s apparently very nice but I intensely dislike her essay “On Decoration” so I project my dislike for her literary opinions onto her person until she gives me reason not to lol.

      That’s funny that you lived just a few blocks away from him though. I met one of my favorite contemporary philosopher’s dads by chance in Chapel Hill only to learn that an apartment I lived in in Washington Heights in NYC was quite literally one block away from his son’s place. Life often has strange consonances.

    35. One of my dirty literary secrets is that I’ve only read DFW’s non-fiction but one day I’ll rectify that.

    36. I’ve read his complete fiction and have read everything except for a few essays here and there, mostly from the newer collection. His fiction is insanely good. If you like Pynchon, start with his early stuff. Don’t start with The Pale King, although I think it’s a beautiful novel.

      Also, the Knicks are bad at basketball.

    37. I think the easiest way to fix the lottery is to reverse the order so that the team with the best record to miss the playoffs has the best odds of winning the lottery.

    38. I think the easiest way to fix the lottery is to reverse the order so that the team with the best record to miss the playoffs has the best odds of winning the lottery.

      The main goal of the draft is still to “reward” the shitty teams with the best rookies. It’s been that way ever since they came up with a draft. So I don’t think many would support a change that would get away from that. Not only that, but then you’d have #8 seeds tanking to finish #9. Tanking would still be there, it’d just move from the bottom of the league to the middle of the league. That said, there clearly would be less obvious tanking, that is true. As teams would have to decide whether making the playoffs is better than getting a top pick. Not all teams would agree on that point.

    39. I think the easiest way to fix the lottery is to reverse the order so that the team with the best record to miss the playoffs has the best odds of winning the lottery.

      This gets pretty much rid of the part where the draft gives hope to the worst franchises. That might make the league more rewarding of good management, but I don’t think it would be a smart business move for the NBA.

      I also really, really don’t think this would eliminate tanking. It just means that the teams with the perverse incentives are the teams sitting right around the playoff bubble instead of those teams at the bottom of the heap. Maybe in baseball where making the playoffs is basically equivalent to a lottery ticket for a championship something like that would work, but in the NBA being the last playoff team in just gets you handed a 4 game sweep – 5 if you’re lucky. You really think Boston would be playing their asses off to make the playoffs and get crushed by the Cavs if they were losing out on the best lottery odds rather than the 11th best or whatever? There’s no chance. This would just mean that the most egregious tanking would be happening on national tv in games with “playoff implications” rather than in unwatched games between the league’s dregs.

    40. Mary Karr was in her late 30’s at the time and was smoking hot. I had a hopelessly overwhelming crush on her. I can definitely see why DFW was so enamored.

    41. This gets pretty much rid of the part where the draft gives hope to the worst franchises. That might make the league more rewarding of good management, but I don’t think it would be a smart business move for the NBA.

      It would reward slight-below-average management. If the NBA wants to fix tanking, they need to eliminate the incentive to tank. The lottery wheel seems the smartest idea, to me.

    42. Infinite Jest is also my favorite novel.

      It’s now on my “Books to Read” list.

    43. It’s now on my “Books to Read” list.

      He didn’t mention that it needs its own seat if you take it on a plane.

    44. Lottery wheel is so far my favorite solution, as well. I don’t even love it, either, but so far it’s the best option out there.

    45. Or, with the way these idiots are blowing the simple job of tanking, maybe we could hold the bookclub during next season.

    46. Well, nothing will ever completely eliminate tanking short of something like the Wheel. But my plan at least de-incentives the complete tear downs we’ve seen over the years. It gives fans a good reason to root for wins. And it gives teams a reason to try to improve from being a bottom of the league team even if that improvement only gets them to 35-ish wins.

    47. Congrats to the Pacers for being so close to making the playoffs.. Very impressive of them, even with such a shitty record.

    48. So now we get the most amazing tank game ever tomorrow, where Miami desperately needs to lose, but the Sixers need to lose, as well.

    49. So now we get the most amazing tank game ever tomorrow, where Miami desperately needs to lose, but the Sixers need to lose, as well.

      Yeah. Philly will be rooting hard for Miami and Orlando to win their games tomorrow.

      There’s not much they can do to help Orlando…

      …but there are a few things they can do to help the Heat win… Like stay up all night tonight drinking, then eat a giant turkey dinner around 6 pm, then have Brian Cronin start their game thread.

      (If the Nets and Sixers both lose there is a 97% chance that it will literally come down to a coin flip to decide whether Philly gets the #11 pick in the draft or not)

      (Oh yeah, and they may get themselves a few pingpong balls closer to the #1 pick as well)

    50. Philly are to tanking as what the Lakers were to winning Championships. Philly should be able to win……..and by win I me an lose to Miami.

    51. Tommorow is gonna be awesome. Many teams need to lose desperately and teams need to win desperately.

      I’m getting my popcorn ready. Best night in league pass this year

    52. How amazing would it be if New Orleans loses but then OKC is eliminated from the playoffs by losing to Minnesota? :)

    53. How amazing would it be if New Orleans loses but then OKC is eliminated from the playoffs by losing to Minnesota? :)

      This is exactly why the last week of the season is often the best. The ramifications!!!

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