Knicks Morning News (2015.03.17)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Jackson should model Knicks on Popovich’s Spurs (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:01:53 GMT)

    Phil Jackson couldn’t resist taking a subtle dig at the San Antonio Spurs last June.

  • [New York Post] The backstory of Knicks’ ‘athletic,’ under-the-radar French pick (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:19:32 -0400)

    Knicks owner James Dolan never spent $1.5 million so quietly. It was past midnight, after Phil Jackson had made his first two draft picks as team president last June 26,…

  • [New York Times] Diana Taurasi Focusing on Playing in Russia, Where the Money Is (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:00:05 GMT)

    Taurasi, a veteran W.N.B.A. star, chose to sit out the coming season to honor the wishes of her foreign team, which pays her a lot more than the Phoenix Mercury.

  • [New York Times] Hawks Beat Kings for 14th Straight Time, 110-103 (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 06:22:01 GMT)

    By proving they can win on the road, the Atlanta Hawks have given themselves a chance to earn home-court advantage throughout the NBA playoffs.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Secure Playoff Berth, Then Beat Lakers 108-105 (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:19:12 GMT)

    Klay Thompson scored 26 points, Stephen Curry had 19 points and nine assists and the Golden State Warriors secured a playoff spot before beating the depleted Los Angeles Lakers 108-105 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Parsons, Rondo Team Up in Mavs’ 119-115 Win Over Thunder (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:16:07 GMT)

    Chandler Parsons and Rajon Rondo were a solid combination on offense for the Dallas Mavericks.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Bury Hornets 94-66 With Barrage of 3-Pointers (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:07:07 GMT)

    Rookie Rodney Hood set a career high for the second time in three games with 24 points, and the Utah Jazz extended their season-best win streak to six games with a 94-66 victory over the Charlotte Hornets on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Nets Win Second Straight (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:48:23 GMT)

    Thaddeus Young had 19 points in a 122-106 victory at Minnesota.

  • [New York Times] Led by Wade, Heat Stun James and Cavaliers, 106-92 (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:55 GMT)

    Dwyane Wade’s top offensive highlight of the night led to no points.

  • [New York Times] Wiz Let 25-Point Lead Shrink to 3 but Beat Blazers 105-97 (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:21:54 GMT)

    There was less than a minute left on the clock, the Washington Wizards appeared set to hold on to beat the Portland Trail Blazers after letting a 25-point lead dwindle to three, and yet there went John Wall, launching himself into the stands, tumbling five rows deep or more, slapping a loose ball back into play.

  • [New York Times] Lowry’s Triple-Double Leads Raptors Past Pacers, 117-98 (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:58:16 GMT)

    Kyle Lowry pulled out his headband just for fun Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Randolph Has 21 Points, 16 Rebounds, Grizzlies Beat Nuggets (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:52:04 GMT)

    Zach Randolph had 21 points and 16 rebounds, and the Memphis Grizzlies thwarted a fourth-quarter rally by Denver to beat the Nuggets 92-81 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Nets Beat Wolves in 1st Matchup Since Garnett Trade (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:34:27 GMT)

    Joe Johnson scored 22 points, rookie Bojan Bogdanovic had 21 and the Brooklyn Nets beat the short-handed Minnesota Timberwolves 122-106 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Celtics Win 5th Straight, 108-89 Over 76ers (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:06:57 GMT)

    Tyler Zeller scored a career-high 26 points, Avery Bradley had 20 and the Boston Celtics won their season-high fifth straight game, 108-89 over the Philadelphia 76ers on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Adidas to Exit the N.B.A., Opening the Door to Rivals (Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:32:20 GMT)

    Adidas said that it would not bid for a new contract with the N.B.A. when its deal expires in 2017, letting slip a high-profile partnership.

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    31 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.03.17)”

    1. Nice to see DWade turn it up a notch and remind everyone how great he can be.

    2. Nice to see DWade turn it up a notch and remind everyone how great he can be.

      He is on my team – great start to my fantasy basketball playoffs :)

      Also, about the comments re our roster from last night, no one mentions Lance Thomas. Scotty Brooks sang him a lot of praise as a blue collar hard worker, great character guy, and seems like the type of guy we want around to nudge our “culture” in the right direction. I would like to keep Lance too.

    3. Early
      Galloway
      TH2 (:/)
      Thanasis
      Cole
      Amundson
      Shved?

      Along with Melo and Calderon so that gives us 6 slots to fill.

      With this roster, you have Calderon starting at point guard with probably Shved as backup’ so that position is set. You have Melo starting with Early and Antetokounpo backing up at the three (I assume Melo will play three).

      Of the remaining players listed above, probably only Galloway could be considered a starting candidate. That means Phil has to find two and probably three starters. Our draftee, no matter how good, is unlikely to be a started come opening night. Maybe Towns or Okafor could start; but I don’t know, counting on starting a rookie before he’s played a single game in practice or in the NBA is scary. So Phil probably needs to hire another center and another forward at least, and probably a decent two guard. That is a tall order., even with a lot of free agency dollars. I hope he can do it. I would be in favor of trading Hardaway to help get a big man, if that helps.

    4. “Maybe Towns or Okafor could start;”
      I think that you can add Cauley-Stein to that list. I actually think that Cauley-Stein will have an easier time contributing immediately than Okafor. Towns and Cauley-Stein should be able to defend and rebound well from day one, while they learn how to contribute on offense. (If Melo and Greg Monroe, or some other free agent forward who is competent on offense, are starting, the Knicks will need defense and rebounding from the center position a whole lot more than scoring.) Okafor might struggle more because, while his offense might translate well to the NBA, I think that he will be a real liability on defense at the start of his career.
      Lakers almost pulled off an upset last night. That would have been nice.

    5. You make good points. No free agents can be signed until July 1st, I think. Since the draft is late in June, at least Phil will know who he has when he starts signing free agents.

    6. I would be in favor of trading Hardaway to help get a big man, if that helps.

      I’d be in favor of trading Hardaway for a big mac

    7. I like Shved but I don’t think they’ll sign him. They already have two pgs under contract and could look to sign another in free agency.
      They are gonna wait til the end of free agency to sign these smaller contracts, so we’ll have Calderon, Melo, Galloway, TH2, Thannasis, Early, and our drafted player (Towns?) on July 4th. I forget, do they have a team option on Cole?
      Melo is really the only guaranteed starter and maybe the draft pick, who should be a big.
      It would be nice to see what Thannasis can do at the big league level over these last couple weeks.
      I’m sure Jax will go after the best guard and/or big he can next year and go from there. It would be nice to find some guys that can play great defense.

    8. According to the Post, Louis Labeyrie will be playing on the Knicks summer league team. I’m curious to see him play.

    9. Essdog is right about who we will have July 4th. There is no team option on Cole; only Larkin.
      I dont’ think of it as starter vs bench, I view it as a rotation of 8 guys. A healthy Melo at 33 mins / game means you need about 7 other guys playing about 26 mins each with your bottom 4 splitting the last 25 or so minutes per game.

      Melo and Calderon will be in the rotation. I think out of necessity the draft pick, THJ and Galloway will be as well. that’s 5, and I think the pick will be the only big.

      I’m fine with Lou as a late, near minimum signing; he’s earned it. But, we need to focus on somehow bringing in three guys. We have $31M to spend. I don’t see Chicago letting Butler go, I doubt GS lets Green go. I don’t want Rondo. Matthews is hurt. For big $$, it’s kinda Gasol or nothing, and I don’t think he will leave. Tobias Harris and some rentals??

      We have very little coming off the books next year (THJ / Early / Galloway) when the cap increases.

    10. Trading Melo makes sense due our position, but I don’t think it will shorten the process.

      It will be beneficial to both in the long run, however.

    11. They already have two pgs under contract and could look to sign another in free agency.

      Who are the two point guards under contract? I think only Calderon is under contract. I think Shved and Larkin will both be free agents. I assumed they would sign Shved instead of Larkin, basically because he’s bigger. Are you counting Galloway as a point guard? I considered him a two, because I see him as replacing Shumpert’s role, but I realize you can make an argument either way.

    12. There are only a handful of high quality players available right now that are likely to leave their current team. The FA pickings are slim unless you want to overpay and move down the food chain (which would be suicidal). At this point, I’d be happy if we got one high quality FA player this year!

      If we got someone like Monroe or Milsap to add to Melo, we’d have 2 legit starters.

      Add our first round pick to the mix and perhaps by the second half of the season we’ll have 3 legit starters. Anything else we add (unless it’s another legit starter) should be signed for a short duration as we continue to look for players to round out the starting 5 the FOLLOWING YEAR.

      Guys like Early, Thanasis, Galloway, Hardaway, Amundson, Cole etc… aren’t really rotation players other than on a weak team. Maybe one or two could become solid, but they aren’t there now. I’d say Larkin is “close” to being a legit backup but is not there yet. Shved would be good as a backup IF what he’s doing now is sustainable, but that’s a major question mark.

      Let’s face it guys, if we are lucky we will be competing for a low level playoff spot next year at best. It’s the following year where we might be able to add another legit starter and perhaps our first round pick from this year will start blossoming. Then we can start making some noise.

    13. Let’s face it guys, if we are lucky we will be competing for a low level playoff spot next year at best. It’s the following year where we might be able to add another legit starter and perhaps our first round pick from this year will start blossoming. Then we can start making some noise.

      Sounds good to me

    14. Right in time for Melo to start to decline due to age and wear and tear.

      The window for the Melo-led Knicks if everything works out perfectly is two, maybe three years long (2016-17 season through the 2017-18 season with maybe the 2018-19 season in play, as well).

      But hey, don’t get me wrong, I will certainly take that over this current terrible scenario! It was just dumb planning from the start, though. You don’t sign a 30 year old to a five-year max deal when your best case scenario is competing in year three.

    15. There are only a handful of high quality players available right now that are likely to leave their current team. The FA pickings are slim unless you want to overpay and move down the food chain (which would be suicidal). At this point, I’d be happy if we got one high quality FA player this year!

      If we got someone like Monroe or Milsap to add to Melo, we’d have 2 legit starters.

      Add our first round pick to the mix and perhaps by the second half of the season we’ll have 3 legit starters. Anything else we add (unless it’s another legit starter) should be signed for a short duration as we continue to look for players to round out the starting 5 the FOLLOWING YEAR.

      This is a good plan, and the fastest and most realistic path to decency. And it should have been the plan all along, but it isn’t the Knicks plan and it won’t be the plan this summer.

      If this was the plan there’d have been no need to pay people to take Felton and JR Smith off the roster. The cap space is not going to be put in the bank. It’s gonna be spent in full this summer, and the people it’s spent on will instantly be two of the most overpaid players in the league.

      I just can’t see it happening any other way.

    16. Guys like Early, Thanasis, Galloway, Hardaway, Amundson, Cole etc… aren’t really rotation players other than on a weak team.

      Well, aside from Timmy who is awful, and Early who is awful but has some potential, those guys could be rotation players on a really good team right now. GS has given 1,000 minutes to Mo Speights this year. The Cavs have JR and Shump in heavy rotation. Big Baby Davis plays a lot for one of the best teams in the NBA. To be a legit rotation player on a good team you really need to be not awful and have good teammates

    17. having melo gives us some hope to be competitive next year… if we sign the right free agents and luck out in the draft we’re actually not too far from being a 5 seed.. of course that is an optimistic scenario… but the alternative of not having melo… well.. just look at the nuggets or lakers…

    18. If the Knicks didn’t have Melo, then they’d be entering this offseason with $50 million in cap room and hopefully a top three pick. How would that not be a better long term situation for them than having Melo signed in for a mega max contract for the next four years?

    19. I’ve been told that it would not matter how much money NY had because FAs would not want to come unless you over pay them. So, I guess with $50m the Knicks could overpay a bunch of guys instead of two. :)

    20. no i agree… it’s probably not better than completely bottoming out.. but this is what we have and what could come of it isn’t half bad… there are disaster scenarios .. and as knicks fan we’re all conditioned to expect that… but next year.. in a year we won’t have a draft pick… it could be entertaining… and we might even be good…

    21. How would that not be a better long term situation for them than having Melo signed in for a mega max contract for the next four years?

      WITH A NO-TRADE CLAUSE

    22. Well, aside from Timmy who is awful, and Early who is awful but has some potential, those guys could be rotation players on a really good team right now. GS has given 1,000 minutes to Mo Speights this year. The Cavs have JR and Shump in heavy rotation. Big Baby Davis plays a lot for one of the best teams in the NBA. To be a legit rotation player on a good team you really need to be not awful and have good teammates

      JR is a head case. I’m glad he’s out of here. But IMO he’s a better player than any of the guys I listed (when his head is on straight). We’ll see what happens to him in the playoffs and whether having someone like that starting helps or hurts.

      Shumpert is a rotation player when he’s playing very high level defense.

      IMO Aldrich would not play on a serious contender. If he did, that team has a weakness at C.

      Amundson has been playing well for NY, but he must be viewed in terms of his entire career. There’s a reason he couldn’t find a home. I like him and want him back. He’s easy to like and root for, but I’m not expecting him to be a serious player on our team when it’s built.

      Guys like Big baby are the reason the Clippers are not a serious contender. Their bench sucks.

    23. If the Knicks didn’t have Melo, then they’d be entering this offseason with $50 million in cap room and hopefully a top three pick. How would that not be a better long term situation for them than having Melo signed in for a mega max contract for the next four years?

      As long as you believe Melo’s contract is a bad value (and I agree that it is), we would almost certainly be better off without him UNLESS we had an incompetent GM that would overpay even more for someone else.

    24. Strat, my point is that ‘rotation player on a good nba team’ is a lower bar than you seem to think. And it’s still lower than you’d think for serious contender. Galloway is playing every bit as well as shump did for us, and lo, Shump is a rotation player for a serious contender. Look at the rosters for serious contenders, and you will find some profoundly mediocre basketball players getting solid minutes. Pero Antic, the rotting corpse of Vince Carter, Kent Bazemore, If Cole was playing 9 minutes a night for the Cavs instead of Kendrick Perkins you think they would no longer be a serious contender?

    25. Even lots of good teams have 1 or 2 rotation players who are pretty bad. Not many have 4 or 5 though, which the Knicks are likely to have next year even with a major roster overhaul this summer. That’s a pretty serious problem in my eyes.

    26. The Knicks problem next year is that they are not very likely to have a player who is really good. Are we likley to have 4-5 pretty bad players next season? That’s debatable. I mean, we sure could. We have them right now. But Cole, Amundson, Galloway, Acy, Larkin, Calderon-that’s six guys right there who are somewhere between pretty decent and acceptably bad. Maybe Shved is to some degree a triangle guy and comes back for the vet min in an effort to salvage an NBA career. Add Melo, a high draft pick, and 2 FAs who don’t suck and baby you got a roster stew going on. Are we going to the finals next season. No, but it could be easier than you think to get a good team assembled.

      The Knicks problem right now is not just that we don’t have any truly good players, but we also have a bunch of really bad players. Bargs, Jason, Timmy, Wear-those guys are wildly unproductive. They should not be in the NBA. And I am terrified that we will have at least 2 of those guys playing minutes for us next season.

    27. small sample size of course, but galloways defensive fg% stats are really, really, really good. it’s not out of the question to say he could become an elite defender at his position.

      I think he’s a clear rotation player especially when he doesn’t have to take as much of a scoring duty as he does on this team–he’s a decent 3 pt shooter, a great rebounder, and fills up the stat sheet relatively well while playing what looks like really good defense. that’s valuable to any team.

    28. The best we can do is give a near max to Milsap and overpay at like 12 mil for a guy like Danny Green. Calderon/Green/Melo/Milsap/Towns with a bench of Thannasis, TH2, Galloway, Lou, and Cole is decent. Maybe you groom Galloway or Larkin to take over for Calderon and strengthen the bench while hoping your main guys don’t get injured and stay good.

    29. Strat, my point is that ‘rotation player on a good nba team’ is a lower bar than you seem to think.

      Perhaps, but I think we are valuing these weaker players differently by enough to reach different conclusions even though we are clearly in the same ballpark and it wouldn’t be a major issue either way.

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