Knicks Morning News (2015.01.27)

  • [New York Daily News] Both Nets and Knicks cancel games due to blizzard (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 01:20:55 GMT)

    There will be plenty of snowballs in the city on Monday night, but there will not be any basketball.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Ride Crawford’s Shooting to 102-98 Win Over Nuggets (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:30:27 GMT)

    Jamal Crawford never stews over statistics. As a prolific scorer, he knows he’s usually one shot away from triggering an offensive outburst.

  • [New York Times] Prince Helps Celtics Edge Jazz 99-90 (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 05:11:52 GMT)

    Tayshaun Prince scored 19 points, and the Boston Celtics held off the Utah Jazz for a 99-90 victory on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Storm Shelves Home Games for the Knicks and the Nets (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 04:20:32 GMT)

    The Knicks’ game against Sacramento was rescheduled for March 3. The Nets’ game against Portland was postponed until April 6.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook, Ibaka Help Thunder Beat Timberwolves 92-84 (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:53:49 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook scored 18 points, Serge Ibaka added 13 points and a season-high 19 rebounds, and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Minnesota Timberwolves 92-84 on Monday night without the injured Kevin Durant.

  • [New York Times] Davis’ Dunks Aplenty Lead Pelicans Past 76ers, 99-74 (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:45:08 GMT)

    Anthony Davis had 32 points, 10 rebounds and four blocked shots, and the New Orleans Pelicans stretched their season-long winning streak to four games with a 99-74 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Double-Doubles by Randolph, Gasol Lead Grizzlies Over Magic (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:42:04 GMT)

    Zach Randolph had 24 points and 10 rebounds, Marc Gasol added 16 points and 10 boards, and the Memphis Grizzlies beat the Orlando Magic 103-94 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 113, Magic 106: In Unraveling Season, the Knicks String Together Reasons for Hope (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 02:14:29 GMT)

    The Knicks become the owners of a three-game winning streak by knocking off the Magic at Madison Square Garden.

  • [New York Times] Thunder F Durant Out vs Wolves With Sprained Toe (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 01:00:11 GMT)

    Kevin Durant is sitting out the Thunder’s game against the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night with a sprained big toe on his left foot.

  • [New York Times] Hornets’ Walker to Have Knee Surgery (Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:06:39 GMT)

    Charlotte said that Kemba Walker would have the torn lateral meniscus in his left knee repaired and that a timeline for his recovery would be determined after the operation.

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    44 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.01.27)”

    1. Yo..I haven’t visited this site in a few days. But after reading about Jim’s situation..I don’t even know if I can talk or think basketball. Like I said on the actual thread..prayers and loads of well wishes to his family. I don’t know you personally Jim, but I love u bro. I know things will turn out for the better..just keep pushing.

    2. An interesting tidbit jumped out at me from Zach Lowe’s all-star piece today. Over 90% of Draymond Green’s 3-point attempts have come with no defender within 4-feet of him. I know he’s one of the players people on this board most covet for this offseason, and I know we have plenty of posters who typically downplay the idea that a change in role can impact a player’s production so I’m wondering what people make of that.

    3. I think that’s the biggest knock on his game as it currently stands–because in every other sense, I think he’s a max-level player. The way I see it Green is only 24 years old (!) and, since he’s so good at everything else, he has plenty of time to hone his 3 ball and repair that single hole in his game. That’s a relatively solid bet to make.

      That being said, even if he shoots at 34% at the same 3pa for the rest of his career, he’s still worth paying the max, I think. Not that we’re gonna get him.

    4. This is Marc Berman, but fuck, this doesn’t seem promising:
      http://nypost.com/2015/01/26/knicks-langston-galloway-at-shocking-contract-impasse/

      The fact that Phil is that worried about tying up his cap with 800k in guaranteed for LANGSTON GALLOWAY (a top 3 player on this shit team) after the jr smith dump really fucking irks me.

      EDIT: Now they’re “getting there”, apparently. But if these talks break down, at what point do we start declaring Phil an abject failure? You can’t just continually make mistake after mistake and get a pass because of ringzzzzz:
      http://nypost.com/2015/01/27/galloway-knicks-getting-there-on-new-deal-source/

    5. Draymond’s shooting is the icing on the cupcake. He’s a defensively versatile big man who is also a fantastic passer for his position-that’s what makes him valuable. It’s reasonable to wonder if his offensive improvement is due to his game maturing or the Dubs offensive gestalt. But even if he’s not on good on offense on another team, he’s still going to be a very effective player

    6. Draymond’s shooting is the icing on the cupcake. He’s a defensively versatile big man who is also a fantastic passer for his position-that’s what makes him valuable. It’s reasonable to wonder if his offensive improvement is due to his game maturing or the Dubs offensive gestalt. But even if he’s not on good on offense on another team, he’s still going to be a very effective player

      So if Green changes teams and his offense goes down. He will still be worth the max? I know people might poo poo this comparison but he reminds me a lot of Josh Smith. At 24 Josh was putting up similar numbers in a lot of categories. That year Josh didn’t shoot 3s and Green does but Josh did get to the FT line more even though he is not a good ft shooter. Will his bball IQ help him continuously improve unlike Josh Smith who regressed. Is the difference that Green doesn’t take the silly mid-range jumpers that Smith insisted on taking? But will that continue if he goes to a different team?

      If Green stays away from the mid-range shots, increase his FTAs, and keep doing what he does everywhere else I think he would be max worthy

    7. I can’t see why anyone is salivating for a 1-way player, whether he’s an offensive or defensive player. Wasn’t that everyone’s complaint about Melo and Stat and Shump?

      The impass with Galloway makes sense to me. The Knicks have 2 point guards under contract for 2015-16. If they manage to trade Calderon or Prigioni, the contract for Galloway makes more sense. I can understand not wanting to go into next season “locked” at point guard. Problem is that today’s d-day for him. I like his game. He’s a quick point guard that can drive the lane and has high assist and rebounding numbers for a point guard. His defense isn’t terrific but he has the physical tools which neither Prigs or Calderon don’t.

    8. Draymond’s shooting is the icing on the cupcake. He’s a defensively versatile big man who is also a fantastic passer for his position-that’s what makes him valuable. It’s reasonable to wonder if his offensive improvement is due to his game maturing or the Dubs offensive gestalt. But even if he’s not on good on offense on another team, he’s still going to be a very effective player

      Of course Draymond is going to be a valuable player, but we’re not talking about getting this guy on his rookie deal; we’re talking about the Knicks potentially maxing him out. He’s a fantastic defender, but if he’s really an average or slightly below offensive player who looks a lot better than that because of his situation I think giving him the max is potentially a little dicey. I think it’s hard for any one non-rim protector to make a world of difference on defense. I’m not against it necessarily, just think it’s an interesting discussion.

    9. If we want a point guard with potential that is something like Prigioni but younger, maybe we should try to get Dante Exum. I saw an article in Salt Lake City hoops that had a video attached. It was remarkable how like Prigioni in attitude he seemed.

    10. Adam Zagoria just tweeted that the Knicks and Galloway have agreed on terms, details TK.

      So everyone who got mad at Phil Jackson in advance can just unclench now.

    11. If we want a point guard with potential that is something like Prigioni but younger, maybe we should try to get Dante Exum.

      Haha, pretty sure the Jazz aren’t ready to give up on the 19 year-old they drafted 5th overall last summer.

    12. Let’s say Draymond doesn’t improve his shooting. So he can only take and make open 3’s at a decent clip. He takes 4 open 3s per game as a Warrior. How much would you expect that to decline when he’s on the Knicks?

    13. Demarre Carroll strikes me as a Draymond Green lite with less upside at 28 years old. Would be interesting to see what these guys get over the summer.

    14. For sure it won’t be easy to get Exum. I doubt we will actually get him. I still thought it worth posting because it’s so surprising to me how much Dante resembles Pablo.

    15. Let’s say Draymond doesn’t improve his shooting. So he can only take and make open 3’s at a decent clip. He takes 4 open 3s per game as a Warrior. How much would you expect that to decline when he’s on the Knicks?

      Will he maintain his numbers at the rim and overall 2P%? What happens if that goes down also?

    16. The thing with Draymond is his shot distribution has improved every year in the league by cutting down his mid-range attempts and hitting more 3’s. I think as we’ve seen the months go by, the Triangle does allow for plenty of 3 point opportunities. I don’t see why that trend in Draymond’s game should change if he were to sign with the Knicks once he learned and adjusted to the system.

    17. Barring a run by us and a complete collapse by the Lakers, I can see us winding up in 3rd in the lottery and nearly guaranteed a top-5 pick (pretty much 50-50 top 3 vs. 4-5)

      After Okafor and Towns, I am liking the idea of Russell more and more. Anyone with me?

    18. In an ideal context, Draymond Green would be valued at around 11mln/yr. The max is a stretch but, again, he’s a RFA and we will attract free agents only by luring them via lots of money. We have nothing to sell to them apart from money.

      That said, I have only one worry about Green: that he could be like Diaw. If we talk about players who can do it all, Boris Diaw is a perfect example. Do you remember young Boris Diaw with the Suns when Amar’e went down? He looked like a superstar in the making. Then, almost of a sudden, he stopped caring and sulked to an ungodly amount of body mass. He was one of the worst players on one of the worst NBA teams ever (and that’s something you can’t say of Henry Sims or Hollis Thompson, so go figure). Then, in San Antonio, he kept the girth but went back to his old ways and was absurdly good for a nice stretch, even on defense. Then this year he’s on and off. I don’t think Green is wired like that. If he was wired like that, it would make me say he’s not worth a lot of money, but he didn’t show any lazy side until now. If he’s not like Diaw even if this season numbers were a fluke I would gladly pay a lot of money for him: even if he became a 9-7-4-2-1 guy. You change a culture with his IQ, motor and coachability.

    19. I see Galloway as an undersized SG.

      IMO, that’s just about one of the worst things you can be in the NBA. If you don’t have solid PG skills, you can’t start as a PG. If you are undersized for a SG, you become a defensive liability at that position. It just seems to me I’ve seen endless players like this that have some overall skills that don’t wind up finding a niche where they can play regularly. Only the extremely skilled ones that bring a lot to the table as scorers seem to make it.

      None of that is to imply I am against having him on the team, but I think the hype exceeds the reality.

    20. l p, I’m just not sure we need a power PF with Melo on the team. I have been jonesin’ for a stud PG ever since the days of Clyde, and Russell seems like the real deal. He might struggle a bit on D, but is tall, lanky, smart, has balls and great court vision, and can light it up from the perimeter. Mudiay strikes me as a Jrue Holiday/DeRozan type, will take a few years to mature and not really a pure PG. I think Russell and Melo will have great chemistry right out of the box.

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2342294-nba-draft-notebook-better-2015-prospect-emmanuel-mudiay-or-dangelo-russell

      The one thing that worries me about Russell is that he apparently has trouble getting to the rim, but he has so many other ways to score. He is also apparently a gym rat, and at 18, has lots of time to fill out and get tougher.

    21. When Draymond was a rookie, 24% of his shots were in the Bargs zone (from 16′ out to the 3 pt line). He’s down to like 7% this year. He’s taking fewer unassisted shots. (The Knicks are not the Warriors, but were are 10th in the league in terms of Asst%) I’d think a good portion of his offense would translate over.

      What kills a team is not paying a guy 14 million for 10 million of production. It’s giving a gargantuan contract to a guy with terrible knees who can never play. I can’t say I know Draymond will be worth a max deal, but he’s likely to be worth most of it at least. He is not now, and will never be Anthony Davis (who I think is the current gold standard at the 4 in the NBA) But he’s up there with the next tier guys if the offense improvement is for real, and to me that is a gamble worth taking.

    22. I’m with you, strat, LG is definitely a tweener, a lot like TDDWTDD and Nate. He does have those super long arms and no neck, so probably more of a 6’4″ player defensively, but can’t compete with even the bigger PGs, let alone the Hardens, Thompsons, or even DeRozans and Butlers of the league.

    23. @25, Galloway is under-tall for a SG, but his wingspan is like 6′ 8″ or 6′ 9″ or something crazy like that. He’s not the #1 person I’d want defending SGs on a consistent basis, but his footspeed and crazy long arms let him hold his own on that end. I know Oladipo is not exactly an offensive savant but he’s a pretty good young player and Galloway gave him fits the other day.

      I think “hype” is relative–he is one of the few (only?) positive surprises of the season, so naturally everyone has taken a shine to him. But it’s nice to imagine that we could have found a young, athletic, reasonably skilled with some upside left kinda of player for our bench next year, since we’ve got pretty much unlimited holes to fill and Larkin has looked pretty meh. It sounds like he and Phil have come to the perfect arrangement: guaranteed minimum deal for the rest of this year and partly-guaranteed minimum deal for next year, too. That’s great money for a rookie who was making peanuts in the D-league a month ago, and could be a fantastic value deal for the Knicks if he doesn’t turn back into a pumpkin.

    24. Draymond is sort of like David Lee in that regard, good value at $10 mill, overpaid at $13-14 mill. Regardless, I doubt that GS lets him walk.

      Btw, has anyone noticed that Jason Smith is playing better lately?

    25. i doubt gs let’s him go but giving lots of money to non-centers with a very limited offensive game has never worked out…

    26. Phil is the zenmaster. Start Jah out slow. Have him do nothing but go full Bargnani, alienating NY fans to such an extent that the national media starts to take notice. Then you unleash the 3 ball. Two weeks from now the whispers start about Jah being a viable stretch 4 off the bench for a western contender with injury problems. Then bam-2nd round pick.

      But for real, Jason Smith is still fucking terrible.

    27. flossy, nice to hear from you!

      Re: LG, agreed, he is at worst a solid backup on the end of the bench, and maybe can be an end-of-rotation player on a good team. Asking for anything more than that is very wishful thinking.

    28. @Z-Man

      Stanley is nice because he’s a 3 with the ability to defend the 2 credibly and the 4 in a pinch. Not saying he will be as good, but he’s similar to Kawhi in that sense and he’s already built like a fucking brick house. If the Knicks aren’t overly concerned with playing Melo at the 4, where he is actually an average defensive player, I think Stanley would be a great pick.

      Even though I went to Michigan so fuck OSU and all that, D’Angelo Russell seems like the real deal and while he may not finish at the rim great right now, I think that can improve when he starts filling out like you said.

      I wouldn’t be too upset about drafting either of those guys at 3 and 4.

      Also A.J. Hammons on a 2nd round flyer would be a nice grab.

    29. I think I like Russel more than I do Towns but I would still take Towns number 2.
      If the knicks end up with the #3 pick I would hope they could move back slightly and still pick up Russel. Maybe teams have Mudiay, Stein, and Kristaps higher. I doubt it though. I think Russel is just going to keep climbing up boards. The only thing that worries me about him is watching his last game he was really coasting on D. Maybe it was just one game but it caught my eye.

    30. If Acy gets to shoot 3s why not Smith. Why Acy is not playing is puzzling. He might not be anything special but he is only in his 3rd year and is 24y/o.

      Also, Langston 2 yr deal is good and bad. Great they get to see if he is worth anything. It could turn bad if he breaks out then a team could offer him a poison pill contract since he has played less than 3yrs.

    31. i think russell deserves to be mentioned with the bigs for the #1 spot… i actually think the twolves or sixers could take him over towns/ok4 since they’re either invested in or have some bigs that they like…

    32. I stand by my opinion on Galloway: if we use the Triangle he will be the backup for PG and SG next year, with a good chance of becoming the starting PG by January 2016 if we don’t sign anyone at that position in the offseason. Wingspan is much more useful than height (you don’t block/steal the ball with your forehead, after all), and Galloway has enough.

      Let’s prepare for a 2016 poison pill offer?

    33. i think russell deserves to be mentioned with the bigs for the #1 spot… i actually think the twolves or sixers could take him over towns/ok4 since they’re either invested in or have some bigs that they like…

      I like Russell a lot (more so than Mudiay) but I’d prefer to get the bigs over him. And this is all with me personally not knowing anything about this European guy everyone is raving about (Chad Ford has him #4 right now after Okafor, Towns and Mudiay). I should really research him.

    34. Speaking of Chad Ford, has everyone heard the bizarre scandal involving him?

      Someone (and the big critique right now is how in the world does ESPN not know who it is, as they should have sign-in IDs for anyone making changes to their pieces on their website) has been going back to Ford’s old Mock Drafts and altering them to make it look like Ford was closer to what things turned out to be (for instance, James Harden is now #3 on the board instead of #6 where Ford originally had him). Most of them were just slight changes, but some of them were dramatic, like moving dudes up or down by double digits. One funny one is that he has David West ranked #10 and Brian Cook ranked #30, but in the text piece, it says “West is a bad value at #18. Brian Cook would be a better pick here.”

      ESPN fixed them and re-set them to the way they originally were and they say Ford denies any involvement and that they believe him and that they’ll look into it, but it seems very hard to believe that they don’t already know who did it. Unless it was a really weird hacker.

    35. i prefer towns… then it’s close between ok4 and russell for me.. but russell’s emergence is good for us if we don’t get #1… i would not be heartbroken if we ended up with him either…

    36. ESPN fixed them and re-set them to the way they originally were and they say Ford denies any involvement and that they believe him and that they’ll look into it, but it seems very hard to believe that they don’t already know who did it. Unless it was a really weird hacker.

      Pretty funny that ESPN suspended Simmons for tarnishing their integrity by calling Goodell a liar (which their own reporting substantiated) but they’re going to let Chad Ford skate by on just claiming he has no idea what happened – something that actually does threaten their integrity. I mean it basically 100% had to be either Chad Ford himself or one of his editors right? The idea that there’s some hacker out there who is hacking into ESPN with the sole motivation of retroactively making Chad Ford look smarter than he is – something about that just isn’t quite ringing true for me. They’re just going to hope it goes away I guess, but I can’t help but think every NBA fan is going to be thinking of this every time Ford opens his mouth from now on.

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