Knicks Morning News (2015.01.17)

  • [New York Times] Irving Scores 37, Cavaliers Hold On to Beat Clippers 126-121 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 07:53:16 GMT)

    Cleveland closed out its road trip with a sweep of Los Angeles’ NBA teams in a hint of a turnaround for a team coming out of a six-game skid.

  • [New York Times] Bosh, Deng Lead Heat to 95-83 Win Over Sacramento (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:47:26 GMT)

    Chris Bosh scored 30 points and Luol Deng had 25 to lead the Miami Heat to a 95-83 win over the Sacramento Kings on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Leonard Has 20 in Return, Powers Spurs Past Blazers (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:29:21 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard’s return from a 15-game absence has the San Antonio Spurs feeling whole, and they showed it by taking apart the Portland Trail Blazers.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook Has Triple-Double, Thunder Snap Warriors’ Streak (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:20:09 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook had little to say about one of the best performances of his career.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Lopez Helps Nets Rout Wizards to Stop 7-Game Skid (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:00:06 GMT)

    Brook Lopez and Jarrett Jack each scored 26 points as the visiting Nets broke a seven-game losing streak with a 102-80 win over the Washington Wizards.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Snap Three-Game Skid, Beat Kobe-Less Lakers 94-85 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 04:53:27 GMT)

    Gordon Hayward scored 31 points on 12-of-18 shooting and added seven assists to lead the Utah Jazz to a 94-85 victory over the Los Angeles Lakers on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Dragic, Green Lead Suns Past Timberwolves, 110-99 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 04:50:29 GMT)

    Goran Dragic scored 21 points, Gerald Green added 19 and the Phoenix Suns sent the Minnesota Timberwolves back to their losing ways with a 110-99 victory on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Rose’s Double-Double Leads Bulls Over Celtics 119-103 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 04:44:43 GMT)

    After starting their second-half surge inside, the Chicago Bulls went outside to finish off the Boston Celtics.

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki, Mavs Split Home-And-Home With Nuggets, 97-89 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 04:21:10 GMT)

    Dirk Nowitzki scored 25 points after missing a game in Denver to rest, and the Dallas Mavericks split a home-and-home set against the Nuggets with a 97-89 victory Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Noel Has Double-Double in 76ers’ 96-81 Win Over Pelicans (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 03:41:25 GMT)

    The 76ers have a catchy anthem they play at every home game, a feel-good song with a lyric that implores fans to, “Stomp your feet, everybody.”

  • [New York Times] The Rivers Run Through LA Clippers With Doc and Son (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 03:38:35 GMT)

    Austin Rivers joined coach Doc Rivers with the Los Angeles Clippers on Friday, and he made it clear he’s not expecting any favors from dear old dad.

  • [New York Times] Tip-In With Less Than Second Sends Pistons Over Pacers 98-96 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 03:17:44 GMT)

    Brandon Jennings scored a season-high 37 points and Andre Drummond tipped in the last-second winning shot to lead the Detroit Pistons over the Indiana Pacers 98-96 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Horford Scores 22, Hawks Beat Raptors 110-89 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 02:59:21 GMT)

    Al Horford scored 22 points, Paul Millsap had 16 and the Atlanta Hawks extended their winning streak to 11 games, beating the Toronto Raptors 110-89 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Jeff Green Has Big 4th, Grizzlies Beat Magic 106-96 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 02:56:38 GMT)

    Jeff Green scored 12 of his 21 points in the fourth quarter and the Memphis Grizzlies held on to beat the Orlando Magic 106-96 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Lopez Helps Nets Break 7-Game Losing Streak With 102-80 Win (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 02:41:18 GMT)

    Brook Lopez and Jarrett Jack each scored 26 points as the Brooklyn Nets broke a seven-game losing streak with a 102-80 win over the Washington Wizards on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Ray Lumpp, Who Played for Knicks and Ran a Track Meet, Dies at 91 (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 01:42:32 GMT)

    Lumpp had a notable career as a basketball player, and he also was the athletic director of the New York Athletic Club, whose track and field meets faced accusations of discrimination.

  • [New York Post] Ex-Knick Greg Anthony reportedly arrested in prostitution sting (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 01:39:20 -0500)

    Ex-Knicks point guard Greg Anthony reportedly has been caught in a sting operation and busted for allegedly hiring a prostitute in Washington, DC. "He is currently in lockup,'' ABC News…

  • [New York Daily News] Greg Anthony arrested, charged with soliciting a prostitute (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 07:19:15 GMT)

    Police say CBS basketball analyst and former NBA player Greg Anthony has been arrested and charged with soliciting a prostitute.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks’ season half in the bag (Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:10:28 GMT)

    The Knicks returned to U.S. soil, but they ominously remain only halfway home in a season that essentially has been over for weeks.

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    49 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.01.17)”

    1. First, they have to trade Tyson.
      Then, they trade him for nothing.
      Now he’s have a great year.

      I hate this club

    2. People talk a lot about how there are no good big men in the league compared to, say, the 1990’s. While it is true that there aren’t really any Ewings, Robinsons, Hakeems, Shaqs, etc., I think we are heading into a period where virtually every team will have at least a “solid” big man, and where the post game is going to come back into vogue (I really wish they would widen the court and make the 3-pt line 25 feet, but whatever.)
      For example, Vucevich is becoming a monster. I was really impressed by him when I had great seats to the game we lost at home early in the year.
      Valanciunas is improving.
      Cousins is improving.
      Nurcic is improving.
      Drummond is improving.
      Embiid is in the wings.
      Towns, Okafor and Cauley-Stein are coming.
      Add them to Howard, Gasol, Noah, Horford, the Lopez’s, Bogut, Gortat, Asik, Jordan, Chandler, and that’s a nice complement of big men for the next few years.

    3. Yeah, I favor Towns – his broad skill set is really unique. My only concern is whether he’ll be tough enough to develop an inside game. But he and Okafor are just 19yo so this is all almost a complete crap shoot. My guess is 76ers and maybe T-Wolves would choose Towns because he’s a better fit next to Embiid and Peckovic. I just hope both will be above average NBA players but history suggests only one of them will be. If we have worst record, we have about a 50-50 chance (46%) of picking 1 or 2 in draft. If it’s a 50-50 shot as to who will be the better center, then this all has a 25% chance of working out for us (.50 times .50). ::Ugh::

    4. Yeah I think towns is the best pick for us after looking at the stats and his game but im putting good money on phil picking okafor or mudiay (okafor because he’s more “nba ready” and mudiay because phil loves big guards) which is unfortunate.

    5. Why would the Sixers take Towns if they already have Embiid and Noel?

      Play him as PF and reserve center. He’s got lotta range on his outside shot and is mobile. They could always trade him, Embiid or Noel. For example, they could pick him or Okafor and then trade 1 of the 3 right away for maybe a max Draymond if 76ers take Lee. I just think a promising center typically has more value than other positions so they would select him.

    6. Right, but given that Embiid is a true C and Noel is not a scorer, they might be better served with Okafor.

    7. Trade down with the Sixers and take Cauley-Stein (looks like a young Chandler – great athlete/defender/doesn’t need the ball and fits better with Melo, which is unfortunately consideration #1) and either the best point guard available (Rozier/Tyus Jones…) or the best player available with the other 1st rounder. We need as much talent as we can get and I don’t think Okafor/Mudaiy or Towns are can’t miss star types.

    8. The sixers ain’t trading up. Now the Celtics? Maybe. Really depends what happens in the lottery. It’s too soon to say what we should do. If Guitar Jimmy goes to the lottery in person we’re getting the 4th pick.

    9. Right, but given that Embiid is a true C and Noel is not a scorer, they might be better served with Okafor.

      But since Towns is a 4 or 5, they could play Towns and Embiid together. I would think that, if they want to engineer a trade right away, it would include Noel. But they would have time to explore potential trades once their draft position is established.

    10. Adrian Wojnarowski ?

      San Antoino is waiving Austin Daye, clearing the way to sign JaMychal Green to a 10-day contract, league source tells Yahoo.

      We got Lou Amundson tho

    11. There have to be some under the table agreements in place to justify what PJ has done so far. Gasol coming here to play with Calderon for example? Why else would he have signed Melo to this albatross contract? How could he be so smart and then do that? I’m just so sick and tired of this franchise being laughed at and always trying to do things by shortcuts and relying on “The Mecca of Basketball” crap and the marketing opportunities… the two superstar approach is disastrous if one gets hurt and/or one doesn’t make the other guys better. Phil has to know more than me though, so again, I will give this a chance, but I long for the days of doing things the old fashioned way – I live in Austin, TX, so Spurs games are always on…

    12. Right, but given that Embiid is a true C and Noel is not a scorer, they might be better served with Okafor.

      The spacing would be bad for any combination of Embiid, Noel, and Okafor. Towns has shown flashes of three point range. Also imagine the defensive combination of Embiid and Towns (or Noel and Towns).

      It’s a really good day for prospect watching/amateur scouting, starting with Okafor vs. Louisville and Harrell. On the bright side of this disaster of a season, the Knicks have renewed my interest in college basketball.

      We got Lou Amundson tho

      Don’t forget about Lance Thomas.

    13. Even if they want Amundson or Thomas why the heck are they holding on to Bargs for? It makes little sense. Quincy Miller and Seth deserve a look too.

    14. Myles Turner would be a good fit for Philly. He has true stretch 4 range and is an absurdly good weak side shot blocker, and they wouldn’t need him to bang inside with opposing centers. Embiid, Noel and Turner could be a nightmarish defensive frontcourt someday.

    15. My Texas friends think Turner is a few years from being an NBA contributor, because he’s too weak right now. But I guess Philly is in no rush.

    16. Marc Gasol last night vs. Orlando: 12 pts., 16 rebounds, 8 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks

      I know it’s a pipe dream (no not JR’s dream) and some say we shouldn’t blow all our cap space on one guy, but I still want him. And I’d be willing to keep Calderon if he can help get Gasol to say si to NY.

    17. Looking over the protections on teams’ picks I really do not see a team out there to trade down with. I could see maybe trading back if out of the top 4 and picking up a later lottery pick, player/s, and ’15 high 2nd round pick. I guess a later lottery and a future 1st would also work too.

    18. Pretty surprising result in the Duke game, especially at Louisville. Just turned it on, seems like Harrell’s draft stock will be on the ebb….

    19. I don’t get people who say Okafor lacks explosion. I think he just needs to get comfortable with his body and show his agility and explosiveness on defensive more going forward. This zone is not helping him show that though. The nba is a heavy PnR league and in this game you can’t really see how he handles the high PnR. If he is coached right I think he will be a defensive player similar to the Gasol bros or Robin lopez. He want get the blk numbers near a Anthony Davis but he will change a teams defensive efficiency by always being in good help position and playing good post D.

    20. I watched Duke lose to Miami, and I felt Okafor was fairly invisible. . and then I realized he had 15 points and 15 rebounds. So, I dunno. I suck at scouting?

    21. Jahlil with another brutally effective scoring performance today. His scoring numbers are impossible to ignore. Dude can flat out score.

    22. Pelton and Chad Ford just put out an article talking about Okafor (its Insider) and here is a part of what Pelton had to say about Okafor’s efficiency:

      “As of now, Okafor’s 2-point percentage would be the second-best by a major-conference player to average at least 15 points per game in College Basketball Reference’s database (back to 1997-98), trailing only Villanova’s Michael Bradley in 2000-01 (.727). And Bradley did that as a fourth-year transfer. If we narrow the list to freshmen, Okafor is No. 1 by a huge margin over Arizona State’s Ike Diogu (.625 in 2002-03).”

      He also talked about how Okafor is one of 6 freshman bigs since 1998-99 to average .2 win shares per game (pretty good group too: Bosh, Oden, Love, Sullinger and Anthony Davis) and he is the most efficient (with the highest usage rate to boot) plus is the best offensive rebounder of that group. In terms of defensive rebounding he is 5th out of the 6 (Bosh was lowest) and he is 4th in shot-blocking (Oden and Davis were absolute monsters at blocking shots).

    23. havent seen much of him but from what I have seen it looks like he has a well-rounded game with a lot of upside but really needs to develop an NBA body (6-5, 170 is beanpole-status) before he can hope to develop that potential

    24. D’Angelo Russell is one of the better guards in the draft– beautiful lefty jump shot. He’s been very consistent with that jumper as a freshman, and I think the jumper will translate well to the NBA because he gets a lot of lift on it. Definitely a two-guard in the NBA as his handle is not great. I’d put Russell in the second tier of prospects along with guys like Willie Cauley-Stein, Euro guard Mario Hezonja and the surging Kelly Oubre.

    25. He plays bigger than his listed weight and his handle and passing looks great. I guess being another lefty makes some compare him to a smaller James Harden and I can see that. I could see the knicks taking Russel at 3 over Mudiay if they don’t get a top 2 pick. Also, if you try to play him at PG the weight would really be a non issue.

    26. my Knicks draft order goes something like this i think

      1. Towns
      2. Okafor
      3. Cauley-Stein
      4. Johnson
      5. Russell
      6. Myles Turner
      7. Mudiay
      8. Harrell

    27. if for some reason we dont draft a big with our 1st or we trade that pick away id also love to pick up kennedy meeks if he drops to early second round and we can buy a pick(doubtful)–a legit offensive rebounder with great hands and solid efficiency but poor conditioning. Me being a UNC fan doesn’t hurt either.

    28. what i’d bet phil’s draft order looks like

      1.Mudiay
      2. Okafor
      3. Mudiay
      4. Okafor

      While hilarious, I really don’t think Phil is that dumb. Mudiay definitely would be the Knickiest draft pick ever, though.

      My draft order right now is:

      1. Okafor
      2. Towns

      (and really, either one would be great to me. If they took Towns #1, I’d be fine with it)

      3. Johnson
      4. Turner
      5. Cauley-Stein

      And then I’d be torn. I guuuuuuuuess Russell. After that I’d just trade down.

    29. I think phil is salivating at the prospect of coaching and nurturing another big guard but like you said I doubt he’d be that dumb to take Mudiay at the 1st. If we get #2 or below and Okafor gets taken I think all bets are off.

    30. Montrezl Harrell’s draft stock is falling fast. He’s probably not a top 10 pick at this point.

    31. he’s not, but I think he’s a decent fit for the Knicks which is why I specified my draft order as particularly for them. But even now, he’s really on the cusp–he hasn’t been too good lately.

      i’d rather trade down past the 6th pick like Brian would I think.

    32. If by some miricale Phil landed a late 1st or early second I could see him trying to go after Deron Wright(utah) or Jerian Grant(ND). Those are two 6’5 combo type guards that are older which is something I believe he said he wants.

    33. I think phil is salivating at the prospect of coaching and nurturing another big guard but like you said I doubt he’d be that dumb to take Mudiay at the 1st. If we get #2 or below and Okafor gets taken I think all bets are off.

      I think #2 is safely Towns. But yeah, #3 down I think Mudiay is in play and, well, fuck.

    34. The Hawks are good. Demarre Carroll kind of came out of nowhere to be a pretty solid player for them (if nowhere is the end of the first round.) Teague turned it around in a big way too, did not see this coming from him. And Kyle Korver must be juicing. His numbers this year can’t hold up, so so ridiculous so far….

      And they signed Millsap which is what we should have done after trading Melo….

    35. I think it is possible that Green just didn’t want to sign with the Knicks and not that Jackson didn’t think about signing him.

    36. “And Kyle Korver must be juicing. His numbers this year can’t hold up, so so ridiculous so far….”

      Tonight he’s 6-8 from downtown, which will improve his current .527 3 point accuracy. The NBA record is .454 (Steve Kerr), so Korver should blow that away. Pretty freakin’ amazing.

    37. Tonight he’s 6-8 from downtown, which will improve his current .527 3 point accuracy. The NBA record is .454 (Steve Kerr), so Korver should blow that away. Pretty freakin’ amazing.

      That’s career, not single-season.

      The NBA single season record is actually an astonishing .534. Of course, unsurprisingly, that record already belongs to Korver (he did it in 2009-10).

      Career 3-point percentage, Korver is behind Steve Novak and get this, Steph Curry, too. Weird, right?

    38. This is a serious, not sarcastic, question– all of you who are so down on Mudiay– why? Have you seen him play or are you basing it on something else? I’ve only seen a few highlight videos so I don’t really have much of an opinion on him one way or the other, but 6’5″ John Wall 2.0 (which is how some people describe him) sounds good.

    39. You can forget about Minny in the ping ping wars, and not just because they’re about to win tonight. Wiggins has improved dramatically already and has been scoring 20+ at 50%+ FG while rebounding and defending for a month. pekovic and Martin are about to return (yeah not Durant and Westbrook but a definite improvement) and Rubio next. rubio, new wiggins, Martin, dieng, pekovic is just not tank compatible.

    40. This is a serious, not sarcastic, question– all of you who are so down on Mudiay– why? Have you seen him play or are you basing it on something else? I’ve only seen a few highlight videos so I don’t really have much of an opinion on him one way or the other, but 6’5? John Wall 2.0 (which is how some people describe him) sounds good.

      I keep hearing the Wall comparisons and I just don’t get it. Wall was (and still is) freakishly fast. Like insanely fast. Like it was his greatest asset (and is still his greatest asset). Mudiay is fast, but I don’t see even remotely the same speed as Wall. One area where Mudiay is similar, speed-wise, to Wall is that he can shift directions at a high speed the way Wall can (in other words, his reflexes are excellent), but on strict speed terms, he is nowhere near Wall’s league. I think he is closet to Jrue Holiday, whose game was also built on speed and athleticism but obviously was not nearly as fast as Wall. While fast, Mudiay is more about his size and athleticism than any sort of freakish Wall-like speed.

      Anyhow, I wasn’t a big fan of Wall 1.0 until Wall developed a shot out of nowhere in his third season in the league, so that’s mostly why I’m not a fan of “slower Wall 2.0”. One area where Mudiay is also like Wall is that he doesn’t have much of a jumper (although to be fair, Mudiay now has a better jumper than Wall had then – but Wall just had no jumper at all when he started) but I don’t see the comparison otherwise, beyond the generic “ball dominant guard” thing, but that describes a lot of players.

      Mudiay is like a better passing Tyreke Evans or an overall better Jrue Holiday. Those are both obviously good things to be – that’s an NBA player to be sure. But not someone I’d want to see picked in the top three, especially when the Knicks desperately need a big man and there are so many other good big men. Johnson is not big, either, but Johnson at least looks like a difference-maker on defense while also being a good offensive player. Mudiay is not a great defender. He’s a ball dominant playmaker whose favorite play is to call #1. In China, where there is no one as fast as him, he was feasting. Here, I think he’s more like Jrue Holiday than Derrick Rose. Someone you want on your team? Of course, but not in favor of these other players, including the best group of big man prospects we’ve seen in years (no single player projects in the Brow’s class, but there are a lot of legit NBA big men here, which is rare).

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