In the end, the sweetener part will be the deciding factor. But if everything else is equal, I would part with Dadiet. I think we have more redundancy in Dadiet’s position than in Kolek’s.
I don’t agree with this. When you are considering which development project players to keep, redundancy isn’t the deciding factor when they are third or lower down on the depth chart. You want to keep the ones with the best development potential. If that means you will eventually have too many good players at one position then you make the trade once they have developed.
Raven: “Of course this might alter the look of historic threads, at least the tail end of them. But let the people who end up writing PhDs and books about Knickerblogger worry about that…”
GoNYGoNYGo: “…or create a “politics” thread.”
A political thread seems the best way, and maybe Mike can put the link always available, like Bagel Radio and the Discord channel.
By the way, Mike, i’m listening to Bagel Radio and i’m liking it so far. 😉
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The only wings on our roster over 6’4″ are OG, Mikal, and Dadiet.
We have bigs who play PF like KAT & Yabu. We have shorter wings like Hart and Shamet. But we have few big wings and even Mikal defends more like a guard.
From the Nets article linked above
At least one opposing team has demonstrated interest in Kolek this offseason, ClutchPoints also learned.”
I’d like to keep Dadiet and see how he does but the writing seems to be on the wall
Kawhi update:
“The contract contained three pages of extensive obligations that Leonard had to perform,” Andrei Cherny, who left the company in 2022, wrote in a statement posted on X. “And the contract clearly said that if Leonard did not meet those obligations, Aspiration could terminate the contract.”
I am shocked — shocked! — that Pablo Torre withheld three pages of salient facts that would have blunted the shocking value of his story.
Friendly reminder as we collectively concede our 2024 draft picks are worthless: there were at least 4 guys (possibly 6) Leon could have drafted who are ready to be part of NBA rotations right now.
The ’24 draft may not have been a catastrophic failure like 2021 and 2022, but it was a significant one. The depth we don’t have now should have been acquired then, and we’ll likely never make up the loss.
Friendly reminder as we collectively concede our 2024 draft picks are worthless
A bit of an overstatement?
Dadiet was an 18 yr old that missed the middle third of the season with a turf toe/foot sprain and who knows if he was “Anthony Volpe” healthy when he returned. Hukporti played quite well his last few games before sustaining a knee injury. He also missed an entire year of development with an Achilles tear. I don’t know why the infamous hive mind would think these folks are worthless. With Kolek you have a better argument due to his age, experience in college and his lack of foot speed.
A bit of an overstatement?
Potentially. Although I think we can say with a high degree of certainty that you’re unlikely to get even a second round pick in the trade market for any of these guys, which does fit the definition of worthless.
It remains to be seen if we valued anything about Dadiet besides his willingness to sign for 80% of his salary slot. But if we’re willing to give him away for nothing to create a roster spot for someone like Malcolm Brogdon or Landry Shamet then we have a definitive answer.
I would like to think Dadiet is not worthless but so far the only two statistics that indicate potential are his age and height.
But if we’re willing to give him away for nothing to create a roster spot for someone like Malcolm Brogdon or Landry Shamet (and that is literally what is being discussed) then we have a definitive answer.
Well…. it depends….
If the dump Dadiet so they can add a 15th man, I would agree they feel him worthless, or
It would be a prima facie case that your position that Leon isn’t very smart would be correct.
Victory can be declared either way 🙂
your position that Leon isn’t very smart
This has never been my position.
My position is that Leon is a constant blunder machine on NBA Draft Day, and that those blunders (which many say are insignificant and should be swept under the rug) will be the biggest reason the Knicks fail to win a championship.
Everyone except Strat and the belligerent principal accepts 2021 was a colossal failure by now. 2022 is surprisingly still up for debate in some circles, even after the player we could have drafted was just the 2nd most valuable player on an NBA champion. But 2024 is being completely ignored, and it shouldn’t be because it was a very consequential miss.
“ as we collectively concede our 2024 draft picks are worthless…”
After one year, too early to say that. What you can probably conclude after one year is that there were some better players you could have drafted.
But let’s not throw 20 year old Dadiet into the zero value category. Below market contract for a 25 pick. Nothing to indicate clear flaws in his game that caps him out as a non rotation player. If he were on a different team last year, where he would have gotten more PT without the GLeague shuttle he could be vying for a rotation spot.
That said, if we need to move him (I think he’ll easily fetch a 2nd, which then could be the Kolek sweetener) to make room for a couple of our non guaranteed training camp invitees (assuming Brogdon is non guaranteed at this point?) can easily support the move.
Edit: slow to reply…others already covered this better than me.
Dadiet just turned 20, so still has that lottery scratch ticket shine to him. I’d just hang onto him and park him at the back of the roster for a couple more years and see if he turns into something. Flipping him for a 15th man seems like a shortsighted idea.
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I don’t agree with this. When you are considering which development project players to keep, redundancy isn’t the deciding factor when they are third or lower down on the depth chart. You want to keep the ones with the best development potential. If that means you will eventually have too many good players at one position then you make the trade once they have developed.
Raven: “Of course this might alter the look of historic threads, at least the tail end of them. But let the people who end up writing PhDs and books about Knickerblogger worry about that…”
GoNYGoNYGo: “…or create a “politics” thread.”
A political thread seems the best way, and maybe Mike can put the link always available, like Bagel Radio and the Discord channel.
By the way, Mike, i’m listening to Bagel Radio and i’m liking it so far. 😉
The only wings on our roster over 6’4″ are OG, Mikal, and Dadiet.
We have bigs who play PF like KAT & Yabu. We have shorter wings like Hart and Shamet. But we have few big wings and even Mikal defends more like a guard.
From the Nets article linked above
I’d like to keep Dadiet and see how he does but the writing seems to be on the wall
Kawhi update:
I am shocked — shocked! — that Pablo Torre withheld three pages of salient facts that would have blunted the shocking value of his story.
Friendly reminder as we collectively concede our 2024 draft picks are worthless: there were at least 4 guys (possibly 6) Leon could have drafted who are ready to be part of NBA rotations right now.
The ’24 draft may not have been a catastrophic failure like 2021 and 2022, but it was a significant one. The depth we don’t have now should have been acquired then, and we’ll likely never make up the loss.
A bit of an overstatement?
Dadiet was an 18 yr old that missed the middle third of the season with a turf toe/foot sprain and who knows if he was “Anthony Volpe” healthy when he returned. Hukporti played quite well his last few games before sustaining a knee injury. He also missed an entire year of development with an Achilles tear. I don’t know why the infamous hive mind would think these folks are worthless. With Kolek you have a better argument due to his age, experience in college and his lack of foot speed.
Potentially. Although I think we can say with a high degree of certainty that you’re unlikely to get even a second round pick in the trade market for any of these guys, which does fit the definition of worthless.
It remains to be seen if we valued anything about Dadiet besides his willingness to sign for 80% of his salary slot. But if we’re willing to give him away for nothing to create a roster spot for someone like Malcolm Brogdon or Landry Shamet then we have a definitive answer.
I would like to think Dadiet is not worthless but so far the only two statistics that indicate potential are his age and height.
Well…. it depends….
If the dump Dadiet so they can add a 15th man, I would agree they feel him worthless, or
It would be a prima facie case that your position that Leon isn’t very smart would be correct.
Victory can be declared either way 🙂
This has never been my position.
My position is that Leon is a constant blunder machine on NBA Draft Day, and that those blunders (which many say are insignificant and should be swept under the rug) will be the biggest reason the Knicks fail to win a championship.
Everyone except Strat and the belligerent principal accepts 2021 was a colossal failure by now. 2022 is surprisingly still up for debate in some circles, even after the player we could have drafted was just the 2nd most valuable player on an NBA champion. But 2024 is being completely ignored, and it shouldn’t be because it was a very consequential miss.
“ as we collectively concede our 2024 draft picks are worthless…”
After one year, too early to say that. What you can probably conclude after one year is that there were some better players you could have drafted.
But let’s not throw 20 year old Dadiet into the zero value category. Below market contract for a 25 pick. Nothing to indicate clear flaws in his game that caps him out as a non rotation player. If he were on a different team last year, where he would have gotten more PT without the GLeague shuttle he could be vying for a rotation spot.
That said, if we need to move him (I think he’ll easily fetch a 2nd, which then could be the Kolek sweetener) to make room for a couple of our non guaranteed training camp invitees (assuming Brogdon is non guaranteed at this point?) can easily support the move.
Edit: slow to reply…others already covered this better than me.
Dadiet just turned 20, so still has that lottery scratch ticket shine to him. I’d just hang onto him and park him at the back of the roster for a couple more years and see if he turns into something. Flipping him for a 15th man seems like a shortsighted idea.
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