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Really curious to watch tonight’s game.
If the two teams were playing for their lives I’d bet that we’d had been down 4-0 wo much resistance.
In modern nba where HUGE money is all over the league in a worldwide spectrum via watching and betting i’m waiting for almost Anything to Happen.
Let’s wait and see!
That sure doesn’t speak well of Boston, then, though, right?
If they’re weak-minded enough to have lost Games 1 and 2, why not two more?
Of Boston, of the League and of Modern HEAVY MONEY INVOLVED sports world.
It would be nice if the Knicks had their draft picks right about now.
Going to the game tonight, and can’t say I’m brimming with confidence. In fact it’s probably the Celtics who are, as they know they’ve dominated us in 10 out of 12 quarters.
That’s why a fast start is so important tonight, if they start bombing away and go up 30-15 or something, oh boy, it could get ugly in a hurry.
Was at the game and otherwise busy this weekend so didn’t fully keep up with all the threads, but I’m sure it was noted that our lack of any discernible offensive scheme in game 3, and truly the entire playoffs to this point, was, and is, palpable.
After 91 games I couldn’t tell you what the primary goal of our offense is besides “let Brunson cook most of the time, let other guys cook the remainder of the time, and let Josh Hart pick up the scraps.”
Our 3PAr is 15/16th among playoff teams (we eke out the Rockets by .007) and our team TS% is 14th. These are not unrelated things obviously. I’m aware there’s not a 1:1 correlation and high 3PAr teams can have bad offenses, and vice-versa, but our roster’s strengths are clearly geared towards juicing overall efficiency via 3PA, because we don’t have guys who are high-volume demons at the rim and we have a low FTr.
To state the obvious, this just does not pencil out. You can’t forego a lot of 3s, not generate many FTAs, not be a stellar offensive rebounding team, and expect to have a championship caliber offense.
Something’s gotta change or we’re probably looking at a 6 game series that is more of a spiritual sweep.
It’s going to be interesting to see what the Bucks get for Giannis and whether they choose to blow everything up (which they clearly should do) or try to remain competitive. I don’t think they can get much for Lillard given his age, injury and expected time to return.
We can cry a little about going all in for Bridges with Giannis now available, but a lot of people were pushing to make a move soon and not wait around for the perfect pitch and give away years for this core, especially with the new CBA. Even if we had all those picks though, there’s still no guarantee he’d come to NY.
I think they’re especially vulnerable in a game 7. They could make that Rockets team look like sharpshooters if their sphincters get tight.
Not to mention the “bounce effect” and the probability that their banged up guys get more banged up on the way.
I am not optimistic that we’ll fix the offense, but I am optimistic we can win this series with our broken one.
It would be nice for once to get a big lead early and put the presure on them to try to come back.
The problem for any team trying to trade for Giannis is matching his salary.
It would be nice if the Knicks won tonight’s game!
it is a very odd circumstance to be in but it sre seems like tonite is a must win for us and not for boston if we go back to boston up 3-1 most will believe we can finish it up but if we go back 2-2 most will assume that we will lose at this very moment i could not disagree with those feelings
After game 3, I wrote here that it seemed like the Knicks simply didn’t have the same energy as in games 1 and 2, didn’t get to the Celtics’ shooters fast enough, and for once they should follow Thibs’ “play harder” cure-all.
Well, this was stupid. Fred Katz in the Athletic explains what actually happened, and confused the Knicks on the pick-and roll. A couple of excerpts:
And later in the article:
Cool on ptmilo that he actually saw it during the game, and quite early:
Tonight I will make sure the AC is pumpin so I can thow my orange hoodie and orange & blue dunks on while I watch the game
War night
I actually don’t think we have to win tonight or even game 5. We just have to not get blown out.
Someone said this yesterday that winning games 1 and 2 bought us time and I agree with that. We just need to win one of the next three to force a game 7 and all the pressure will be on Boston, not us. We have time to win this series.
hauser upgraded from doubtul to questionable ruh roh i was surprised at the jrue dr evil after his 3 although we absolutely deserved it at that moment i was surprised because he is kown as a nice guy who does not taunt opponents
Just play better might work for the defense but the offense seems to have been in a rut for a couple months now, so if the Knicks lose but scroe well I’d probably feel better than if we lose but play good defense
It is true that we will be near-universally written off if we lose tonight, and everyone will assume the Celtics are going to advance with ease. But those are the exact circumstances under which we thrived in games 1 & 2.
While everyone was scurrying to buy tickets to games 3 & 4, I picked myself up a pair to game 6, which was about 20% cheaper. I don’t think our team handles expectations well, but I love them when their backs are against the wall.
I don’t think the Celtics handle expectations well, either. I think they settle too easily when they are overconfident. But in situations like Saturday and tonight they are focused and at their best.
Tonight is only a must win for the news cycle and our nerves. Winning two in Boston earned us a lot of leeway.
Hubie, you’re nuts. Tonight is a must-win so that we can have 3 chances to win an elimination game against Boston, which is about 7 less than we would most likely need with average luck, but we’d have a shot based on the law of averages.
If we lose tonight the season is over. Winning 2 of 3 against Boston with real stakes and at least one more road win required has about a 0% chance of happening.
Don’t get me wrong, we’re doomed either way because our starting lineup is structurally uncompetitive and Thibs isn’t gonna change it, but if there is any chance of advancing tonight has to be a win.
1973 playoffs. Only 2 rounds, so meet Boston in Conference Finals, without HCA. We win, game 7 on the road. 8 man rotation, with Jerry Lucas playing the Mitch role and Dean Meminger (RIP) and Phil playing big time hero ball minutes while the starters rested (Dean started one game while Earl was injured). Phil was like Precious, ganglier with WTF and love-you plays in equal measure. Dean was better than Cam, lightning quick which could change momentum, but with the 3 point game, Cam can do the same. Rode the vibes to win against the favoured West team (Lakers). Don’t want it to go seven, but just saying if Cam and Precious give us some decent minutes while the starters hold their own….
I’ve been saying Mitch is the key to our playoff success since January, and despite the incredibly small sample size, what I’ve seen on the court feels like it’s bearing that out. My focus was on his defensive impact, but apparently he’s having a highly positive impact on the offense as well, since our rating without him is in the 90s. (It would have been the worst offense in the entire League by a large margin.) I thought Thibs got the memo, and was playing twin towers to prove it, but he still hasn’t made the most obvious adjustment, which is starting the game (and third quarter) with Mitch and not Hart. Mitch and KAT together are a plus 24 in the Celtics series..and again, it’s as much because of offense as defense.
Thibs is not going to fix the offensive offensive issues this deep in the playoffs; the time for that has come and gone. All he needs to do is just play the right players at the right time and we could steal a couple more wins. Start with Mitch; play him and KAT together as much as possible. If you get 24 minutes with them together, 8 with just Mitch, 14 with just KAT, that leaves 2 for Precious. If we aren’t destroyed in those minutes we should be OK. There has to be a way to have them on the court together more, and Mitch more at the start of quarters to avoid the hacking strategy. (Or twist it to our advantage.)
TL;dr: Thibs doesn’t have to change his terrible offense; he just needs to play the right players at the right times and we’ll be in a better position to win.
Narrator: he would not play the right players at the right time.
We’re going down with the Josh Hart ship, even though Thibs allegedly looks at lineup data which shows the starters’ Ortg this series is well below 100
More important than anything Thibs will do is that all Knickerbloggers graciously put aside their differences and join together to root for a Knicks victory tonight 😉
This Giannis stuff dropping on the day of the draft lottery..
I respectfully submit that I issued Official Pags Predictions before Game 1 and Game 2. I did not do so before Game 3, and well, you all saw the results.
Therefore, Official Pags Predictions:
-Starting lineup remains unchanged
-BOS over 30 points in Q1, us under 20
-BOS over 40% 3FG on 40+ attempts
-Mitch only plays when we’re in bonus for some reason, over 10 FTA and under 4 makes
-Towns 1 3PM or less
-Wingstop under 20 points combined
-Hauser plays, makes 4+ threes
-20+ point loss, never within 10 after Q1
Thx, much. Rinse, repeat. But what do you *want to happen 😉
The Knicks were 36-18 at the All-Star break. They went 15-13 after that. The 15 wins came almost all against bad teams, teams that had thrown in the towel on the season:
CHI, PHI, MEM, MIA, SAC, POR, MIA, WAS, DAL, MIL, POR, PHI, ATL, PHO, BRK.
The standout wins are a one point win over Memphis and a win over Milwaukee in which they didn’t have Dame. Eight of the 13 losses were by double digits.
We just haven’t been very good against good teams, especially late in the season, because the reality is that we’re not really very good ourselves. We did win a scrappy series against a young Detroit team and got the two improbable wins over Boston, but we’re playing with house money here. We just really have not been a very good team for quite some time, and when you watch the team play, it looks like what it is: an above average team that is not really a contender.
I’d make us sizable underdogs against every other team remaining in the playoffs.
Macri’s newsletter today makes the case for putting Mitch in the starting lineup for Hart, and for the record I fully agree. The numbers speak for themselves and it would be reckless to wait until we’re down 3-2 to make a change instead of being proactive. From the newsletter:
The numbers with Mitch are all much better (of course, it would be hard for them not to be). We’re obviously dealing with tiny samples, but: 1) the starting lineup hasn’t been all that good offensively for a long time now and 2) this comports with everyone’s eye-test, at least as far as I can tell.
It’s kind of a shame, because what I think rama’s good post is getting at is that the best version of this team is still probably the current starting lineup, but with a bona fide offensive scheme that seeks to generate high-quality 3PA, meaningful ball movement, and all that jazz.
But that’s not happening in game 92, so start Mitch, improve the defense, crash the glass, and get Jalen another screener/PNR partner. Hart would still be absolutely essential as a chaos agent off the bench.
Obviously, I want us to beat the Celtics convincingly and in a way that shows we belong on the court with them. I want us to show the ability to generate quality shots the way they do in their sleep. I want to beat them instead of hoping they beat themselves badly enough.
I want Brunson to throw up a classic playoff 40-burger. I want Towns to rain threes on them. I want Wingstop to give Tatum and Brown fits. I want Thibs to counter Mazzulla’s cutesy shit by starting Mitch so he can dominate the boards and swallow them up on D. I want Hart to come in off the bench and steal a bunch of momentum-shifting rebounds that flow into transition buckets.
Thibs isn’t gonna let us do that though, so I don’t think it’s gonna happen. The more realistic hope is that we’ll shit the bed for the next 3 games and never be within 10 points after about 6 minutes in so that Leon will understand he needs to fire Thibs. Even that might not be enough after we lucked into 2-0.
I’m feeling particularly morose about this one because I think what’s going to happen is that we’ll sprinkle in a fake comeback or two and lose the next three games more respectably and Thibs sticks around because we “pushed Boston to 6 games” and that’s seen as a respectable result for a team that’s all in until 2031 somehow.
I don’t care if the final score is 60-58 I just want the Knicks to win.
Thx. Agree with a lot of your fantasy game. Let’s root for it. I also take seriously your worry that we show *just enough to avoid some tough decisions in the off-season. Let’s get there first.
As for lineups, I love the idea of Mitch starting. Let them hack him to the penalty and have their better players in foul trouble.
I also think Bridges is begging for an IQ or Burks role where he takes over the offense whenever Brunson sits. If no one on the team has learned how to pass or cut by now, we should just let Mikal do this by design.
Mikal has been pretty decent at this when he has been given the opportunity. There have been a number of occassions this year (including in game 2) where I have been almost shocked to see how well Mikal can create when he’s given the rock.
In the half court with Brunson on the floor, he just seems slow, like he takes forever to get a shot off. They really do not seem to be very complementary players.
Facts. But it didn’t have to be this way. The fact is that OKC countered it in January, the rest of the league copied them, and Thibs tried fucking nothing to adjust.
For half a season! Nothing! While half of this blog made excuses because we had banked enough wins that our record was still okay. The guy needs to go! Better coaches are fired for less all the damn time! Better coaches are on the market! How is this not an ironclad consensus at this point!? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
It’s still feels weird rooting for the actual games rn and not the lottery.
I’m not optimistic about tonight, but I’m still taking the approach that we’re playing with found money, so whatever.
Next year I’d like to see KAT primarily at the 4 and a healthy Mitch at the 5 (with either an even better center replacement or else a very good backup). Make Hart the super 6th man. Get another starting-caliber center and a 3-level scorer for the bench.
And maybe consider a coaching change.
what do we think assistant coach brunson is suggesting to tibs as ways to fix the offense
I’ve long thought Bridges would be most effective being 6th man and leading the bench and McBride should start. I think the team would operate better
We have 4 chances to win 2 games. We don’t need to call one of them something fancy to imagine its outcome is more important than any of the other ones.
This is a sneaky good idea. Deuce is actually our best PoA defender and probably a better shooter than Bridges at this point.
Count Brunson-Deuce-OG-Towns-Mitch as another potentially very effective lineup that Thibs failed to proof during the season.
This is a myth. People just started noticing it more after OKC did it.
Boston guarded KAT with wings on the opening night of the season. Dillon Brooks guarded KAT when we played the Rockets in November. The Hornets used Cody Moore to guard him in early December. And the Washington Wizards did it with Justin Champagnie on back-to-back games after Christmas.
The downward trend didn’t begin bc teams started guarding Towns with wings. The trend began bc Thibs eventually responded to that defense by abandoning KAT as a screener, something he did back in early January. If you find a chart of KAT’s screen actions (I saw it in an article once, don’t know how to pull it up myself) you’ll see the number of screens he set dropped precipitously in January, exactly when our offense started to become ass.
When KAT’s guarded by a wing we act like there’s no point in having him set a screen because they’ll just switch, so we simply give up using one of the best actions in basketball. It’s the most self-defeating offensive strategy I’ve ever seen. As if we can’t make good things happen with a wing on Brunson.
” I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!”
Dial back them meds, Pags…
Agree with trying Mikal as sixth man option. We sort of get it anyway when Brunson sits bc Bridges plays ~ the whole game, but what if we started Deuce (as you say).
In a way I’m more confident that Mikal can score solo coming in to the rescue rather than Payne or Deuce.
Or if it *looks bad to sit Mikal, then just practice (!) what the second unit offense does or should do differently.
PS — IMO crazy pills can be helpful or even fun when used properly.
Just wondering, was anyone important out of the lineup for a bunch of the post all-star break games?
Just wondering, do our offensive metrics in these playoffs alleviate concerns about our late season offense, considering that guy has played every playoff game?
Also just wondering, has our offensive performance against the Celtics been measurably better than that of the Orlando Magic, the 27th best offense this season?
I would very much like to get a win in a game narrated by Mike Breen during this series.
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