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  • 119 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.02.09)”

    That was a rough game, but to me we’re exactly where we were before this game, we’re 2nd tier contenders. The game was telling that it’ll be hard to surprise the 1st tier contenders in May/June, but who knows, that’s why we play the games.

    Maybe the guys we were missing (OG and Mitch) are a lot more important to us, than the guys they were missing. Let’s hope that’s the case.

    Either way, my goals for the season are the same, at least go to the 2nd round will be ok, but only getting to the ECF would be a good season.

    And then we’ll have some room to round out the team in the summer.

    I’m still baffled by Thibs not using the challenge on Derrick White’s 3P. Deuce didn’t foul him, but even if it wasn’t overturned, it’d be a good message for the team to keep fighting. By not using it, the message was the opposite – you’re on your own. I didn’t like it at all.

    That was a rough game, but to me we’re exactly where we were before this game, we’re 2nd tier contenders.

    Change the word rough to impressive and that’s a word-for-word copy & paste of what you & everyone else blasted me for saying after the Memphis win.

    If that game “shut up all the critics”, this game (and our 0-5 mark with a -18.2 net rating against the three favorites) should shut up everyone else.

    Towns hasn’t been playing well since the hand injury and we don’t have OG. Not going to worry about it.

    To Owen’s point re KAT, it would seem beneficial for the long haul to sit KAT until after the all-star break. His movement last night was worse than usual and is likely attributable to his knee.

    Change the word rough to impressive and that’s a word-for-word copy & paste of what you & everyone else blasted me for saying after the Memphis win.

    I didn’t. I just said we have a great team, and i still think the same.

    “I mean, I said [Friday] that playing them, it’s always to see where we are. We see where we are,” a dejected Jalen Brunson said. “Not where we want to be. Today as a whole was unacceptable.”

    “We know we’ve got a lot of work to do. Simple as that,” Towns said. “There’s no sugarcoating. There’s no moral wins, nothing like that. It’s something we’ve got to work on if we expect to beat a team that y’all have expectations of us to compete for and be.

    “If we also have those same aspirations in this locker room, which I know we do, we’ve got to find a way to beat teams like tonight. That’s a team that is in the race. They want to be in the race as much as we do to win a championship. And for them, it’s another one, a back-to-back. Championship teams, great teams, in my experience, they test your discipline. Something that we’ve got to work on, our discipline for 48.”

    Precious is a fine stand-in against most teams, but he absolutely does not cut it against Boston.

    Boston’s backups are 10x better than our backups. Doesn’t help that their starters are better than our starters too.

    Great recap of the game!

    https://x.com/duglust/status/1888602489852727732

    The part i miss more is not having Clyde and Breen, as he sings in the music. I can take an L, but with no Clyde is always harder.

    Interesting that i was listening to the music they used – “I’m Shipping Up To Boston” from the Dropkick Murphys – and even sent it to my son, just minutes before he posted it !? 😮

    Nothing more fun than watching your team get its butt kicked at MSG, hearing “Let’s go Celtics chants during garbage time and then going outside to a sleet storm.

    I still wanna see both teams at full strength (KAT is definitely not 100%) but they manhandled us in every aspect of the game last night. Zero positives.

    Yeah, that was an ass-kicking. No way to sugarcoat it. The Celtics were a step ahead on both sides of the floor. They seemed to get whatever shot they wanted while they forced us to take shots they wanted us to take. They murdered us on the boards, beat us to loose balls, and set traps for us that our players stumbled into. Their so-called scrubs, particularly Prichard, Kornet and Queta, looked like all-stars.

    Prior to the game, I listened to the KFS pre-game pod with the guy from Hardwood Houdini and the game went exactly how he said it would, especially when it came to setting up Tatum to attack our worst defenders (we actually didn’t have anyone who could defend Tatum, and even with OG they would just generate switches onto other players).

    If we play the Celts in the 2nd round and both teams are relatively healthy, that will be the end of the road. We just don’t have the horses to match up with them on both ends, meaning that even if they aren’t hitting 3’s they can slow us down enough on D to stay in the game and then pick us apart in crunch time.

    Our best bet to get to the conference finals is to fall down to the 4 spot and play the Cavs.

    Hubie is a miracle. Congrats on a great career. Deserves all the praise. Doing it in your nineties is like LeBron doing it in his fifties.

    👏👏👏

    I recall someone here trying to tell me Kanye wasn’t anti-Semitic. Care to revise that opinion?

    I think in a way we better hope that KAT is playing hurt, because the way Queta and Kornet dominated the paint was kind of disturbing.

    KAT was nowhere to be found

    I watched the game this morning. Not good. I felt like Hukporti showed why Thibs would play Sims first. Huk looked lost and tentative out there. Kornet looked great and I remember that when he was on the Knicks I wondered if he’d be se make it in the NBA. Now I’m wondering about the relative futures of Sims and Huk.

    Checking the box score I note that Huk was +4 in eight minutes of play which is remarkable given my eye test and the final score.

    Was just about to say that, KFNNJ. Mostly in jest, but was going to add that KAT was -26; and Huk was at 18 rebounds per 36, while KAT was at 12. I was going to compare scoring per 36 too, with KAT again at 12, but well, zero is hard to extrapolate…

    Kornet has always been a smart player, but the Cs really brought out the best in him. Look at his numbers! Teams should take a hard look at him as a starting center.

    I think the important point to those numbers is that KAT was feeling about as good as OG last night. He really needs time off to get better from whatever dings he has, which appear to be many.

    KAT was downgraded to questionable before the game. Maybe they should have asked more questions.

    “I watched the game this morning. Not good. I felt like Hukporti showed why Thibs would play Sims first. Huk looked lost and tentative out there. Kornet looked great and I remember that when he was on the Knicks I wondered if he’d be se make it in the NBA. Now I’m wondering about the relative futures of Sims and Huk.”

    This seems harsh. Hukporti is a rookie with 157 minutes of NBA experience. I mean, look at Kornet. He was awful as a rookie and for his first couple of years his main value was as some sort of stretch 5, taking over 60% of his shots from 3. Now he never shoots 3’s at all and has become sort of an iHart-type defensive big with some short-roll passing skills. He’s not especially mobile but he plays smart and within himself.

    Queta could barely get on the court for his first 3 years. Now he has already played over 600 minutes for the defending champs and is a valuable bench piece.

    Hukporti is going to need patience as he works through the stuff that all rookie bigs need to work through. He’s not ready to play significant minutes against the defending champs. But he has tools that Sims doesn’t have and with some experience I could see him developing into a very solid player.

    An even bigger concern than not being able to ever steer the ship to full health through a full season is Thibs’s inability — bordering on unwillingness — to defend the modern trifecta.

    He’s the WordPress blog of association coaches.

    Towns hasn’t been playing well since the hand injury and we don’t have OG. Not going to worry about it.

    I would add that part of the reason KAT is struggling is also that his knee has been bothering him for awhile now, but he kept playing through it. As I’ve been saying endlessly, if you keep playing through small issues to prove you are tough or because the coach wants to win some meaningless games in December, you are more likely to still have issues (possibly worse) when the games start counting.

    When you have an issue, you have to take games off and let it heal properly.

    There’s at least some probabilty that OG’s issue is related to not taking games off also.

    I felt like Hukporti showed why Thibs would play Sims first. Huk looked lost and tentative out there.

    Part of the reason Huk looks like that is that our coach is so hell bent on winning every meaningless game on Nov and Dec and so afaid of a comeback when we are up 20 in the 4th quarter, he doesn’t give the young players enough run to get comfortable playing in games, especially important ones like this one was.

    Celtics have another gear the Knicks can’t reach. Both player-wise, and execution-wise. That’s separated elite, chip level teams from the next level down since association time immemorial.

    Leon has to figure out how to take that leap. It’s a very tough one. Starts with a new coach, but yeah, that’s not happening this year. But still.

    I think you can pretty much pencil in the Celts and Thunder in the finals. They are the only teams with enough 2-way players to win any style of game.

    I know the Celts take a lot of 3’s but even if they only counted as 2’s they would beat most teams. It’s not just that they take 3’s, it’s that they generate open looks whenever they want to. If you press up on their shooters, then they attack the rim. Then they clamp down on the opposing team’s best players with switchable defenders at nearly every position and dare poor shooters to beat them. And Tatum is a cheat code, he can do whatever he wants starting from the midcourt line in isolation.

    OKC has one of the great midrange scorers the game has ever seen, and a stifling defense that will only get better now that Chet is back. Everyone on their roster is 6’4″ or taller, and many of them are lanky and athletic. I don’t see how any team but the Celts can win the possession battle with them.

    Precious is a fine stand-in against most teams, but he absolutely does not cut it against Boston.

    He’s an undersized C.

    He’ll be OK against some matchups, but at PF against a good defensive team, our spacing is going to be an issue. They aren’t going to guard him away from the rim and they have some flexibility to give Hart some space also. That’s going to make it tougher on Towns, Brunson, and Bridges who are trying to get inside or midrange. If they had Holiday guarding Brunson last night, it would have been even worse.

    100% against 100%, IMO Boston’s starters are not much better than ours. Their defense is better. But they have a better quality bench and better fitting bench. If they are missing a guy like KP (who is very good), they have guys like Horford and Kornet to replace some of what he does and the excess scoring ability to not really miss his scoring.

    When we are missing OG, our spacing and suspect defense takes a big hit.

    When Towns is less than 100%, we are missing a key scorer and have no one that can come in at C and replace some of what he does or give us something else at a high level.

    I’m not at all worried about last night or some of our other losses.

    We have to get healthy (including Mitch) in time for the playoffs and then no one is a huge favorite against us even if we aren’t the best top to bottom team. We can worry about filling the remaining holes and taking another step in the off season.

    Chet didn’t play at all last night. Anyone know what’s up with that?

    We all knew this team wouldn’t have a huge window and that 2025 wouldn’t be our optimal season. Next year, Towns and Hart will both be 30; Brunson and Bridges 29. That will probably be our best chance to sneak into the finals before declines begin.

    Next year we could have:

    – a seasoned Huk and a healthy Mitch
    – a semi-seasoned Kolek to takeover for Payne if need be
    – an additional vet bench forward who can score and defend

    That’s about as good as it gets, barring our own Doncic-type trade.

    Z-man, I don’t think it’s harsh to wonder if either Huk or Sims will develop into a center of the caliber of Kornet. It was a main theme of my post that Huk is young and I was wondering how much better he’d get.

    We all knew this team wouldn’t have a huge window and that 2025 wouldn’t be our optimal season

    Players don’t stop being useful at 30. Hart is having his best season at 29.

    It doesn’t even matter too much how big our window is, the important part is selling our assets while we can still get significant draft compensation.

    OKC and Boston don’t have superteams because they tanked, they have superteams because they traded their stars for an absurd level of pick compensation.

    I’m skeptical we do it.

    I haven’t posted for a while and realise I’m probably just voicing what most think. But here’s my current view of the team.

    Our playoff-calibre rotation is 7 guys, including Mitch. To have even a punchers chance vs Boston or Cleveland, all 7 really need to be fully healthy. We have 30 games left and a healthy lead over 4/5/6 in the east. Home court in round 1 would be nice, but really if we can’t beat the non-boston non-Cleveland EC teams in a 7 game series even without that advantage we’re not where we think we are. We should be FAR more interested in health than marginal wins and seeding at this point (and our seeding is probably ok anyway).

    Shut KAT down. And OG. Reduce the minutes for the others. Worst case we lose a few extra games and drop a seed. Best case, we extend the playoff-calibre rotation by playing some other guys into the mix. But we maximise the chance of the 7 real guys we have being properly healthy in May and that is our only hope of making a second round competitive. The short rotation isn’t really Thibs’ fault, but someone has to step in and mandate that he reprioritises and uses it differently.

    The Knicks are 30th out of 30 in opponent 3pt percentage. That kind of puts a pretty hard ceiling on how far you’re gonna go, and honestly I’m not buying the arguments that it’s all luck. Thibs is just not really a very good defensive coach for this era of NBA play. He doesn’t scheme well enough to prevent teams from filleting us from the 3 point line.

    You can tinker around the edges with this bunch of players, but you simply can’t win a title allowing opponents to shoot .380 from 3pt on average.

    Ben Simmons to the Clippers makes perfect sense, as the Clippers have always felt like a mysterious black hole in some way, as has Ben Simmons.

    One bit of positive news yesterday – the Mark Williams trade to the Lakers was rescinded.

    So, you know, fuck the Lakers.

    At some point the Celtics won’t make 50% of their 3s against the Knicks, right? maybe?

    We actually have the best expected 3fg% against and we allow the 6th fewest 3s per 100 possessions.

    So either we’re incredibly unlucky that we have the best expected and worst actual 3fg% or there’s something really unusual going on with the way our players closeout compared to the way other people do it.

    If we look at on/off 3p% numbers:

    Hart
    ON 38.9% – OFF 34.6% – DIFF -4.3%

    Brunson
    ON 39.4% – OFF 34.6% – DIFF -4.8%

    Achiuwa
    ON 41.5% – OFF 36.8% – DIFF -4.7%

    Could be fluky or some unknown factor, but if there’s a culprit, you’d start looking at these 3.

    “Expected 3fg%” seems like kind of a junk stat. I suspect there is something wonky about how they’re “expecting” a shot to go in or not.

    If it was luck you’d expect some regression to the mean, but the regression never seems to come. Still puttering along in dead last even though we’re “expected” to be in first.

    on my 12th birthday was given the choice between a bike or a tv…

    like every kid knows, the question isn’t really which one do you want, but rather which one do you want first…chances are good you’ll get the other at the next holiday…

    even though it was summer and a bike would’ve been handy, easy choice at the time, took the TV of course…

    I think now that that is when my love of sundays really began…wake up, watch tv…watch a yankee game…proceed with the day from there…

    for some reason I find it tough looking back…

    sure hope for this upcoming back to back, we don’t see OG or KAT against indy..let them play against the hawks…

    Goals for rest of the regular season is obviously be healthy come playoff time, win 50+ games and secure the 3rd seed. Then come playoffs just fuck it and play your asses off.

    On a positive note Yankees pitchers and catchers report on Tuesday…

    “Expected goals,” “Expected 3 point%,” “Nearly open shot” — all these ultimately rest on a human being’s subjective interpretation and worse, the human being is interpreting his/her snapshot of underlying dynamic movement. (*)

    So at best, it only approximates something real and often doesn’t even do that.

    (*) A player four feet away from a player shooting can range from either a grave threat to a non-factor depending on how he got to that four feet away spot. (And of course, thing like how tall he is, how quick and explosive he is, etc.)

    There’s a close resemblance between those things and middling golfers trying to get themselves into the “positions the pros get to,” without understanding that those positions are snapshots in a 1.5 second sequence of very dynamic movement. If you’re moving in the wrong direction(s) at the time of the snapshot, or have the wrong weight distribution (for example), you can match Tiger Woods’s left arm parallel position on the downswing exactly, and it still won’t mean jack squat.

    Good bless Hubie Brown!

    Happy retirement Coach, thanks for your basketball wisdom and your funny comments, you’ll be missed.

    To be clear, the fg% metric I’m using just averages the 3p% of our opponents. It says we’re the worst team in the league at defending the three and we’ve played the worst shooting teams in their league.

    To be clear, the fg% metric I’m using just averages the 3p% of our opponents. It says we’re the worst team in the league at defending the three and we’ve played the worst shooting teams in their league.

    Okay, well that’s even worse, and even less likely to be luck. That just tells me we are genuinely fucking atrocious at defending 3’s.

    Okay, well that’s even worse, and even less likely to be luck. That just tells me we are genuinely fucking atrocious at defending 3’s.

    Yeah, pretty much. I probably shouldn’t have called it “expected”.

    One other thing about yesterday’s game. The last thing I expected was Wright getting minutes playing for his new team before Sims did, but it happened.

    “Z-man, I don’t think it’s harsh to wonder if either Huk or Sims will develop into a center of the caliber of Kornet. It was a main theme of my post that Huk is young and I was wondering how much better he’d get.”

    The part I thought was harsh was: “Now I’m wondering about the relative futures of Sims and Huk.”

    We have a lot more evidence about Sims than Huk. Sims is 26 years old and has played 2300 minutes over 4 seasons, with little improvement and little reason to expect any significant improvement. I don’t see how one would wonder the slightest bit about the “relative” futures of these two players. Huk might not develop much, but his absolute floor is “slightly better than Sims…” meaning just another version of a replacement level C. The “wondering” should be about Huk’s ceiling, which any objective observer would conclude is significantly above Sims’ ceiling.

    If “harsh” seems too “harsh” in making this point, I apologize. I just didn’t get why anyone would wonder about the future of a rookie based on a lousy 8-minute stint against the best team in the league.

    The biggest problem with Sims right now is that he doesn’t score, but that’s pretty normal for a Thibs C. I also think Brunson throws lobs with a lot less frequently than other PGs and Sims really needs someone to throw him lobs.

    Personally, I think our problems with opponents’ 3PT% are about personnel, not scheme. I don’t think there is a coach who ever lived that could turn our current rotation into an excellent defensive team. Brunson and KAT are significant liabilities on that end.

    Put our guys up against the Celtics and we just can’t keep up defensively, especially without OG and Mitch. Once the opposing team has a guy like Tatum who can just do whatever he wants against any defender we throw at him, any defensive scheme is going to crumble. Either you have to send help and someone like White or Prichard or Hauser or Horford is going to have an open look, or there are going to be driving lanes for either a straight line dunk or a pass to a cutter for either a dunk or a kickout if the defense collapses. Brown runs hot and cold, but when he’s hot he does the same thing as Tatum.

    If you have KAT out there as part of your 3pt defense, not only does he suck at it, he’s out of position for what he does best (ending possessions with defensive rebounds) which creates more second chance points.

    It’s sort of that scene of Titanic when the designer of the ship confirmed that sinking was a mathematical certainty because it could only withstand 4 flooded compartments, not 5.

    A team defense can survive one mediocre to bad defensive player, but not two, and certainly not when even the good defensive players are playing up in position (Tatum vs. Mikal is a physical mismatch.)

    Josh Hart has been phenomenal this year, but he has not been a plus player vs. the Celts when KAT is the C. He doesn’t seem skilled enough in the halfcourt to win the possession battle against a team that takes away his main strength, which is the transition game.

    “The biggest problem with Sims right now is that he doesn’t score, but that’s pretty normal for a Thibs C.”

    Well iHart was a Thibs C and he was 1000X better than Sims. I think Sims has a lot of problems. He can’t shoot, pass, or dribble, and he’s not all that good as a rim protector or team defender. He is strong, jumps really high, and slides his feet pretty well, but that’s about it. Because of these glaring deficiencies, I don’t see any path to him ever being a rotation player on a good team.

    Sims was a sad mystery to me. I never understood how he never developed at least a little jump hook. I mean, just stand in the gym and do it over and over again until you can’t move your arms anymore. He had years to do that. I guess he just spent all his time lifting weights and trying to keep a straight face in the mirror while friends told him funny jokes.

    Well iHart was a Thibs C and he was 1000X better than Sims. I think Sims has a lot of problems. He can’t shoot, pass, or dribble, and he’s not all that good as a rim protector or team defender. He is strong, jumps really high, and slides his feet pretty well, but that’s about it. Because of these glaring deficiencies, I don’t see any path to him ever being a rotation player on a good team.

    iHart is better than most Cs.

    I’m not saying Sims will blossom into the next iHart, I’m saying he’ll be better, which for him might be sticking in the league a couple more years. He’s been a lot better as a rim defender this year, he’s not Mitch or iHart, but he’s okay-ish.

    i just think Sims is a slow processor of the game. Things that work in practice, or even in the G-League, just don’t work at NBA speed. He probably has practiced a lot and just hit a ceiling. That’s probably the main reason why guys with good size, speed, athleticism, etc. don’t make it. I mean, take a guy like Jacob Toppin. He looks the part of an NBA wing, and I doubt that Thibs and Leon would even keep him around if he didn’t bust his ass in practice and preparation. I watched him kill it in the G-League. But the NBA game is just too fast for him.

    “In media res can hit you like a ton of bricks. Excited to see the response.”

    What does this even mean?

    “that was too funny, hubie saying he was about to start crying on the broadcast…”

    That seems as if it would be sad in a heartwarming way, rather than funny in any way.

    “iHart is better than most Cs.”

    What makes iHart so good is between the ears. He reads and reacts better than most of his peers. His scoring is a plus, but it’s his ability to read the game and react quickly that sets him apart. You can’t really teach that. Sims just doesn’t have it. He can get incrementally better, but at 26 he probably is what he is. Amare didn’t have it. Freedom didn’t have it. And sadly, KAT doesn’t have it.

    If KAT was, say, iHart-level as a scorer, he would be a journeyman C at best. And I don’t think it’s because he doesn’t work hard enough at it.

    That was a rough game, but to me we’re exactly where we were before this game, we’re 2nd tier contenders.

    Thibs and the “medical staff” should be taken outside and horsewhipped for putting KAT on the floor last night.

    He was gimping in warm-ups and couldn’t even do the center jump and then proceeded to move like around the floor Walter Brennan in “The Real McKoy’s!” He couldn’t move or defend the PnR.

    Without OG there isn’t a person on the roster that can defend a skilled player like Tatum with size.

    They had no chance and KAT needs to be shut down til after the ASB and shouldn’t play in that First Team East All Star starter, or not. The only way this thin team has a puncher’s chance in the playoffs it to have everyone healthy.

    Someone tell the folks at McKinsey that , so the can pass it along to Dolan.

    Yeah, I’m the stupid one, even though I’m the one who knows better than to post about “media,” “res” (whatever the fuck that means), random food in random cities, farting and urinating in random airport restrooms, and random sexual escapades in a forum that is supposed to be dedicated to basketball. Idiot. LOL

    I’ve kept it to basketball as I’ve been asked to do. You should try doing the same, but I imagine that you’re quite incapable of doing so.

    it’s like some weird take on that Andy Kaufman mighty mouse joke:

    here i am – to piss on your day

    a dios mio…where in the world do you find the constant energy to fuck with others…

    it’s like the whole: live and let live thing:

    yeah, i have never heard of that before…

    it’s Sunday, take the day off…

    I’m not the one who called another poster “stupid” out of the blue for no good reason. You’ll need to write to Clarence about that one if you want to get an answer to that question.

    Sure I’m an asshole. Fuck me. But you have the reading comprehension of a vanilla yogurt cultured from a chronic earache.

    “it’s Sunday, take the day off…”

    I did. I’ve barely posted today. I only posted twice all day prior to being called “stupid.”

    Plus, it’s up to me to decide when to post, not you, right? I imagine you could agree with that. 🙂

    Ha, I go off for a run and the site falls apart in my absence. I’ll take the fall for that one..

    you are engaging with folks who want nothing to do with you…

    I’m sure there are people in the world who do want to engage with you…go fuck with them…

    The problem with our bench isn’t a quality issue its a balance issue.

    We can weather Brunson, Hart, Bridges missing time because we have good backup guards in McBride, Payne, and Kolek.

    While I don’t agree that we are undersized in our starting lineup I do think we are woefully undersized off the bench so it creates cascading problems when OG or Towns are hurt.

    OG is our only big wing who can guard larger forwards without giving up too much offensively. Precious can do an okay job defensively but mucks up our spacing and this is exasperated by Towns being hurt and having a damaged shot.

    When Towns is hurt if forces us to play Precious or Huk at the 5 for all 48 minutes and Huk is too raw and Precious is too small to be our only centers. I still think Precious is a nice bench piece but he can’t be our only reliable backup center and even at the 4 he hurts our spacing when Towns isn’t a threat from 3 and Hart is in as well.

    I think Mitch coming back will help a lot but we still desperately need a 3-4 behind OG that can defend larger players and still be a consistent treat from 3. Precious’s spacing issues will be even more of a problem with Mitch so we need to be able to pair Mitch with a shooting forward so we don’t ruin our spacing every time he plays.

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    i am already looking forward to meeting up with KB member number three 🙂

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    I disagree, Ben. There is a balance issue, but the quality is not all that good. Deuce is solid but not great. Cam is erratic and an issue on D. Precious is undersized and has lots of holes on his game, starting with his inability to shoot the ball the same way twice in a row. Shamet is virtually unplayable. Huk is a green rookie.

    PS Kolek is not a good backup guard, he is an undersized rookie who would get eaten alive if he had to play significant minutes.

    Precious can do an okay job defensively but mucks up our spacing and this is exasperated by Towns being hurt and having a damaged shot.

    When Towns is healthy, I think this is an okay lineup off the bench and probably holds its own against teams other than Boston, OKC, and a couple other teams.

    I think Mitch coming back will help a lot but we still desperately need a 3-4 behind OG that can defend larger players and still be a consistent treat from 3. Precious’s spacing issues will be even more of a problem with Mitch so we need to be able to pair Mitch with a shooting forward so we don’t ruin our spacing every time he plays.

    In theory, we can stagger OG & KAT at the 4. Unless we’re planning on Mitch only playing 10-12mpg, which isn’t out of the question, then Mitch & KAT will need minutes together. We can add a couple minutes of Precious next to Towns if needed.

    “Sure I’m an asshole. Fuck me.”

    Agree 100 percent.

    “But you have the reading comprehension of a vanilla yogurt cultured from a chronic earache.”

    Funny, because I get compensated quite well for the exact opposite reason.

    “you are engaging with folks who want nothing to do with you…

    I’m sure there are people in the world who do want to engage with you…go fuck with them…”

    Except for the fact that I didn’t “fuck with anyone” first. As usual, you’re writing to the wrong guy about that.

    Funny, because I get compensated quite well for the exact opposite reason.

    Irony’s last stand.

    I’m the one who knows better than to post about “media,” “res” (whatever the fuck that means)

    Lol I’m sad to have missed this earlier. Is anyone watching this superb owl stuff?

    Eagles defensive line is dominant , they’ve made Mahomes look like shyt

    *Travis Swift has 0 catches

    * Barkley has rushed 12 times for 31 yards so the Chiefs have contained him at least

    Pass rush is key, but the Eagles secondary is good as well. Eagles draft really well. They always get these players teams stupidly pass on [ Jalen Carter, Cooper Dejean]

    I’m waiting for the Kelce half time speech that turns this game into a chiefs victory then explodes into a proposal to Taylor swift during straight Christmas.

    Mahomes hasn’t shown up yet. Kendrick definitely did.

    Doogie, if you’re worried we’re getting off topic, Nick Young is Kendrick Lamar’s cousin

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    Yes, I knew that about Kendrick Lamar. And I’m not at all worried about the Super Bowl off-topic, other than “straight Christmas.” What the hell does that mean, in this context? Confetti falling isn’t “Christmas.”

    Yea if Nico Harrison wasn’t already hated by Mavs fans….

    Funny thing is the Lakers canceled the trade of a chronically injured big man today

    And I’m not at all worried about the Super Bowl off-topic, other than “straight Christmas.”

    Don’t be worried. It’ll be okay.

    Well no one can blame the refs on this one. The Eagles kicked the Chief’s ass from pillar to post.

    Z-Man – I think we have three playoff rotation quality bench players right now and four once Mitch is healthy. Precious is a solid bench big especially as your 2nd big man off the bench, Mitch is a very good bench big, McBride is a good combo guard, and Payne is a perfectly reasonable backup PG. If we had a capable 3-4 that could play defense and make threes our bench would be perfectly solid.

    The problem is after those four it gets much worse. Huk and Kolek are fine rookie depth and both have decentlong term potential but neither should probably play in the playoffs much, Dadiet is not really ready for real minutes at all, and Shamet and Wright are both redundant with McBride. Plus, Shamet has been terrible and Wright might be washed.

    Maybe Towns might actually get motivated to attempt to play defense now that his Eagles won.

    “Z-Man – I think we have three playoff rotation quality bench players right now and four once Mitch is healthy. Precious is a solid bench big especially as your 2nd big man off the bench, Mitch is a very good bench big, McBride is a good combo guard, and Payne is a perfectly reasonable backup PG.”

    While I agree that they are fine against most teams, I don’t think our bench, even the best 3 or 4 and even when fully healthy, is nearly as good as those of the Celts, Cavs, or OKC.

    I would expect that Leon knows this and it will be Job #1 to build a better bench during the upcoming offseason. Precious and Cam are free agents, so my guess is that they will be gone next season.

    Jets draft pick Mehki Bection is on the Eagles and Bryce Huff so it’s not just Barkley

    it’s very hard to play that many high level games in a row, not making excuses but that’s a beat up team.

    I would expect that Leon knows this and it will be Job #1 to build a better bench during the upcoming offseason. Precious and Cam are free agents, so my guess is that they will be gone next season.

    We can keep Precious with Bird rights. Cam is gone unless he really loves NY. They never love NY that much.

    “We can keep Precious with Bird rights. Cam is gone unless he really loves NY. They never love NY that much.”

    Sure, if they want to and if he doesn’t get better offers than what Leon is willing to pay him, given cap constraints. I’d be surprised if he’s back, and I’m not sure if it would be pleasantly surprised.

    Sure, if they want to and if he doesn’t get better offers than what Leon is willing to pay him, given cap constraints. I’d be surprised if he’s back, and I’m not sure if it would be pleasantly surprised.

    We’ll still be pretty limited with who we can sign. I don’t think we’ll have anything more than the minimum. Precious is useful enough to bring back, but not so useful that other teams will give him a major deal.

    “And I’m not at all worried about the Super Bowl off-topic, other than “straight Christmas.”

    Don’t be worried. It’ll be okay.”

    I wasn’t worried before, during, or after the time I posted that. Anyone with reading comprehension higher than that of a small rodent’s would have understood that instantaneously. Stop being stupid and posting incessantly. 🙂

    “We’ll still be pretty limited with who we can sign. I don’t think we’ll have anything more than the minimum. Precious is useful enough to bring back, but not so useful that other teams will give him a major deal.”

    Something like 3/$20M might be a possibility for other teams, would you go that high?

    Way too early to talk post season, too many variables and unknowns. If I were to make a prediction, I’d speculate that nobody outside the Nova trio is secure, should the right upgrading trade present itself.

    Definitely Precious is worth that. You’re undervaluing him when it comes to our squad. We should be willing to go up to $10 million AAV, which is still pretty much peanuts.

    Also, I would not be surprised if they would pull a crazy and costly trade to bring back DDV.

    Hey Geo, lovely to meet you fam. I’ll be out again soon. Thanks for taking time out of your life to chill with me.

    I can now confirm that neither of us are the crème fraiche oozing out of Charlie Meadows ear that’s the most best at words.

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