[ESPN] – Fri, 04 Oct 2024 13:55:00 GMT
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- Hall of Famer Patrick Ewing rejoins Knicks as basketball ambassador
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[Yahoo Sports] – Sat, 05 Oct 2024 01:43:00 GMT
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[Hardwood Houdini] – Sat, 05 Oct 2024 04:01:03 GMT
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[New York Daily News] – Fri, 04 Oct 2024 18:15:57 GMT
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[New York Daily News] – Fri, 04 Oct 2024 16:52:52 GMT
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[New York Daily News] – Fri, 04 Oct 2024 17:09:36 GMT
Patrick Ewing joins Knicks as basketball ambassador
[Empire Sports Media] – Fri, 04 Oct 2024 14:11:09 GMT
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27 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.10.05)”
I don’t get it, is there even a feasible trade for Marcus Smart that wouldn’t put them over the second apron (they are currently hard capped at the second apron following the Towns trade)?
Not saying whether it would be a good or bad idea (it would be a bad idea), but could it even feasibly be done? I am sure Memphis would trade him right now for Deuce, whatever pick the Knicks can still trade, and filler, but is that even possible?
Yup, it sounds very strange if not “fakenewsian”.
The only trade I can fathom is one where they trade Mitch for someone whose contract would give us a little more breathing room under the second apron (like for instance Valanciunas who makes 4M and change less than Mitch but is signed for one more year).
Not that I would like that trade, but at least it would make sense.
Smart makes 20.2M this year and 21.6M the next, how can you accomodate him under the second apron?
Is there a world where they trade Hart and another small contract for him? But doesn’t it make us even smaller?
Brian, the filler in your trade would have to be Mitch (14.3M) and another player making 1M. It doesn’t make any sense. And money aside, i think Marcus Smart doesn’t make sense for us, is he better than Deuce?
Trading Hart for Smart?
Too many puns. And bad for vibes.
Before I forget, I’m elated to have The Big Fella back!
Was there a trade Leon has made recently that the media knew in advance? I guess we can put that trade in the “not Smart” folder! 😀
The only way this makes any sense is that the Knicks are quite good at keeping who they are chasing a secret in part by allowing false rumours to go unchecked. I do not want to root for an annoying 30yr old ex-Celtic when I can root for the development of Deuce and Kolek instead.
Brian outraged about the quality of the clickbait lol
Following on what Max said, an injured Mitch for a healthy Valanciunas kind of make sense, isn’t it?
On the other hand, everyone has known for four years that Leon wanted KAT. It just took forever to close the deal, and the timing of it surprised us all.
I would guess that they have had interest in Smart in the past. But as Brian notes, if it’s not a salary cap impossibility right now, it’s close enough that it wouldn’t seem worth Brock Aller trying to jump through hoops to make happen.
Playing with the trade machine, there’s workable trades. Whether anyone would agree to them, idk
They do not appear to be under the trade restrictions we are, so we can just send them more salary than we receive.
For example:
Deuce & Hart for Smart & GG Jackson
Mitch/Hart/Deuce for Smart/Aldama/Clarkson
No idea if anyone agrees to them, but they work.
Mitch + Precious gets you to Marcus Smart without much magic left for Aller.
It feels like we’re not into giving Mitch time to recover. Either that or we know it’s really bad and his recovery this year is unlikely. This reminds me of when he kept hearing Grimes rumors for two months straight before we eventually traded him. Our front office is good at keeping quiet but when you shop someone you inevitably run into a front office that has leaks.
If we’re talking to Memphis I’d like it to be about Brandon Clarke, who seems to have been Wally Pip’d while he was out. And is taller than 6’3”.
In terms of real trades, the only thing we know for sure is that they are open to trading Mitch – maybe even eager to do so. So my question would be, is there a trade with him that makes us better? I have a hard time thinking of one that might work. Begley reports that the Pelicans are serious about acquiring him (and like RJ to Toronto, it makes sense for non-basketball reasons too). Either Herb or Trey would be the only options – and as good as those would be for us, I’m still not sure we should do them. Centers seem to be scarce at the moment. I guess I would, but we’d be very, very vulnerable.
My understanding is that Precious can’t be traded for a while. If true, any trade seems like it would have to involve either Hart or Deuce. Trading either of those guys for Smart would be absolutely nuts.
I had a long conversation with a diehard Celts fan last weekend. He was not a fan of Smart and was thrilled to see him shipped out for a much better player. He said he had a propensity for doing really not smart (npi) things at critical moments, and that he was physically diminished, his defense was overrated, and he was always banged up.
Really a bad idea.
I think we’re too close to the cap to make a 2-for-1 or 3-for-2 unless we’re clearing enough salary to sign an extra contract.
Hart and Deuce make money work, but I can’t even squint and make the basketball case for that. I’m assuming this is a game of telephone situation and prior interest, which was also previously reported, is just filtering out again now.
Anyone else going to the Yankee game tonight?
They have a couple of uber minimum contracts like Yuki Kawamura and Armando Bacot making $1.1M
Payne would definitely be
If Mitch + Precious + Payne go out for Smart and those contracts we’ll take back about $1M less.
Point is… common sense is going to have to prevent this trade bc it can get done with minimal magic from Aller. This will be pretty easy for him, like Houdini escaping through an unlocked door.
Where does this come from? Do you even know the precise nature of his injury?
For me, Hart should be untouchable in trades unless it’s a pipe dream, 0,01% scenario where it brings a substantially better player. The guy is always productive, Thibs favorite player, Brunson’s best friend, a fan favorite and at this moment in their careers at the very least just as good as Smart.
I’m hoping it’s just a pointless rumor because I don’t want Smart at all.
Valanciunis is kinda washed, it would be good if we had a center on the team who was good at defense
Please Leon, don’t trade the longest tenured Knick!
If the core of the trade was Hart for Smart I would be insanely against it. Unless we start Precious (which I am not in favor of at this point) or trade for a starting PF, rebounding is going to be be an issue. I love OG and think he’ll rebound a little better from the PF position if asked to, but he’s not going to replace Randle’s rebounding at PF. That’s not a strength of his. Some of it has to come from another position. That’s where Hart comes in as a starter. He’s a terrific rebounder for his position and showed in the playoffs he’s capable of filling that gap. Hart is very important to this team as a rebounder, playmaker and defender with more size than Smart.
According to Ian Begley, Precious Achiuwa can’t be traded until January 15, 2025. I don’t know why anyone would be discussing including him an a trade at this point when he can’t be traded until over three months from now. By then we will have had the preseason and 40 games to evaluate him as a part of this roster. It’s ridiculous to try to speculate out that far when so much can happen between now and then.
Any trade for Smart before then would have to include at least two of Mitch, Hart, Deuce, or Sims. I’d be utterly disgusted if it included either Hart or Deuce, and combining Mitch and Sims not only doesn’t get us there but would leave our C rotation thinner than Motel 6 toilet paper.
I would lose a ton of respect for Leon if he did something so dumb as this seems to be.
I don’t have anyone in mind, but if they are going to trade Mitch+ for anything, it should probably be a starting 3&D PF that’s a good rim protector. That would help protect Towns and the paint. They could just keep OG at SF and put Bridges at SG. Hart could go back to the bench where his energy is useful.
Please let’s stop speaking this unspeakable thing into possible existence. I really hope that Leon reads this and sees what a bad idea it would be.
We trust you *not* to do this one, Leon!!!
https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-mailbag-mitchell-robinson-trade-trey-murphy
If you read between the lines of Ian’s latest mailbag, the FO is trying to trade Mitch for a more reliable bench upgrade. We’ll see if they can find one. Would be a shame to say goodbye to Mitch after all this time, but I’m braced for it.
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