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That story about the championship rings and the phishing email… Jesus Christ, James Dolan is determined to remind you that he’s the biggest asshole on the planet.
Still not embarrassed to not have embraced him
This might be making too much of too little, but on Tuesday, Dolan, owner of the team that brought pride and joy to millions, was still looking miserable: arms folded, legs crossed, slouched.
….
Friday Night MSG (DAZN?) vs. Mitch and the Celtics! Let’s get it!!
If you say “sell the team,” he will refuse tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of your business … but he doesn’t care what other people think?
That … does not compute.
No one paying attention can be remotely surprised at the Commodus freak show surrounding the rings.(*) While I get the urge in the wake of the Larry O’B to try to find something there to latch onto, Dolan has never given the slightest indication that he’s anything other than what he is — he’s a dumb and dreadful petty tyrant.
(*) Is Mike Brown actually getting a ring? He hasn’t gotten one yet and there’s been plenty of time to “fit him for one.”
In terms of the other thread about the Smashing Pumpkins, yeah, he’s gotten old and weird (*) but I saw them at Barclays Center a couple weeks ago and they were pretty good and while they weren’t my favorite band from that music-obsessed era of my life, this video gets to my demo and personal “gestalt” better than almost any other.
Never really thought when going through that time that it would be that resonant three decades later, but that thought is completely inconsistent with that period of life — if the thought was there, the enjoyment of it wouldn’t have been. Paradox. Even more paradoxical is the fact that nothing about the philosophy behind the actual words and lyrics rang true then or now.
(*) Can’t see anyone taking from Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil the title in the “who in real life looks the most like he’s The Judge from Blood Meridian?” sweepstakes, but Billy Corgan is making a decent late run.
The Replacements, particularly Paul Westerburg, always had a bug up their ass about REM — and to some extent rightfully so — so I’m prone to think the Jack White thing just goes with the artistic territory.
I truly can’t understand the ring story. It’s the sort of asshole story that goes beyond any comprehension.
I also love the implicit idea of “If Jimmy Dolan is actually offering an employee something nice, you know that it must be a fake email, so if you click on it, you must be an idiot.”
why are people not making a bigger deal out the fact that someone murdered mario hezonja and frank abagnale’d their way onto the cleveland cavaliers in his jersey
Did Brock Aller and Gerson Rosas get rings?
The exchange between Bob & JK yesterday made me realize I have Dolan Derangement Syndrome. It’s ironic bc I’ve handled two Trump administrations with outstanding emotional regulation. But James Dolan has lived rent free in my head for 4 months. I think this might mean I love the Knicks more than my country, but I digress.
Anyway, the only cure for DDS is total abstinence, so lent has come early for Hubie: I’m giving up Dolan.
I really don’t react to Dolan stories anymore, the only thing i do is check it to see if the NBA can force him to sell Donald Sterling style. If not, i just ignore it. There’s nothing we can do, he’s a douchebag.
For what we had to endure… we should all get rings! 😉
I thought I couldn’t hate Dolan more than when he invited Trump to game 3 and killed the Knicks fans’ karma, but this Athletic story?
He is truly the scummiest of scumbags.
I did notice that, but I was too busy laughing at the Cavs for putting on a reenactment of Game 1.
It might be time to break that team up. (Admittedly my track record on this sort of thing is not good.)
Analytically, the Cavs won that game by 43 points.
I can’t wait until a couple of weeks from now when I don’t have to see a million election attack ads every time I turn on my TV.
Of course, we may not have a democracy by then, so maybe I should enjoy it while I can!
Every time I saw a closeup of Hezonja the Jamie Tartt song came to mind.
Greetings Professor Falken. Strange game. The only winning move is not to play the game.
Whenever I hear Hezonja’s name mentioned ( my has he became brolic), I hear ” hail hail Hezonya home of the brave and free” . You have to be a Marx bros. fan to have this reaction.
James Dolan made a bet with satan that he could blow 100% of the most goodwill any sports team has ever accrued.
The Athletic has an outstanding “headline” this morning:
“The Cavs are already in playoff form”
You can fry an egg on Atkinson’s seat right now…
I read that it’s not that unusal for coaches and other employees to get their rings after ring ceremony due to delays in making them. I think we should probably wait until they are finished distributing them before trashing Dolan on this. I realize people hate him and are looking for reasons to trash him, but I’ll reserve my trashing for when I see who didn’t get one that probably deserved one.
The phishing e-mail was a bit tasteless, but I’d love to see the content and e-mail address it was sent from. If it was an obvious phishing e-mail and employees were clicking on the links and creating a potential security risk, then it exposed a serious problem. There was probably a better way to do it, but it was effective.
The phishing email was sent to staff who aren’t getting rings at all. In other words, instead of sending a generic cybersecurity test involving an Amazon gift card or something, people were led to believe they were getting championship rings after all.
You simply do not have to defend this garbage.
Hate Dolan as much as the rest of you, but just want to point out that sending “test” phishing e-mail messages out to employees to see who clicks on them (and then sending them to courses to remediate for those who did) is not uncommon in the corporate world.
Well we know the content of what was sent — it was in the Athletic article and it got everyone thinking they were getting a ring.
In terms of where it was sent from, it had to have had a close-but-fake email “from” address so if the real email domain (making this up) is “msg.com” the email — if it was actually phishing — would have been sent from “msgthegarden.com.” The idea is that you’re supposed to know from the sender that it’s fake, although most phishing emails are such that a reasonable reader can suspect a fake just from the content. That part was obviously missing here.
But phishing emails to employees typically don’t promise a valuable fringe benefit that they could plausibly receive in exchange for their actual hard work, but haven’t yet been informed that they will receive. And then you don’t send people to re-education classes for clicking on an email that purports to plausibly reward them for their hard work, but in fact gets them fired up about it and then says, “Ha, ha, you fell for it you sucker plebe who wasn’t fortunate enough to inherit a bunch of money like me.”
That’s the part that makes it pure unadulterated dirtball.
SI picked the Cavs to make it to the conference finals (vs. the Sixers, I guess we’re not joining the party)
I’ve also heard several analysts opine that this is the year Mobley “makes the leap”. I mean, this is the dude’s 6th year in the NBA, don’t think he’s leaping anytime soon.
You’ve been around too long to think we have a democracy now.
I’d excuse this from one of our more youthful posters, but not someone around my age.
We are mostly run by intelligence communities (plural) and billionaire donors (many who do not even have the interests of the US at heart) who are battling each other for power, money, natural resouces, land and control. We are just a bunch of goobers along for the ride pacified with voting and by bought and paid for controlled soul selling liars in the media.
To think, I used to be an idealist 45-50 years ago.
OKC’s defense is smothering.
Other organizations have sent test phishing emails to their employees to test them. It’s not an unknown tactic.
I see my mail crossed another one saying the same thing.
Of course it’s a tactic, but those companies don’t send phishing emails to employees to rub their faces in their relatively low status within the organization.
America isn’t a democracy; it’s a constitutional republic with a written constitution that explicitly protects a number of minority rights against the ever-threatening tyranny of the majority.
Strat, you are entitled to characterize the world in which you live however you like.
I’m referring to the very real possibility that masked storm troopers are going to show up at polling places as our “president” invokes the insurrection act and declares martial law, preventing duly elected representatives from being seated. Just like I put nothing past Dolan, I put nothing past Trump and his cronies, including his insane Bond villain frenemy Elon Musk.
Guys…yes, I get phishing test emails all the time. I click one I also have to take a cybersecurity course. All par for the course, all fine.
I have never heard of one of these emails being specifically designed to entice the employee by telling them they are getting something like a championship ring, when in fact they are not. That’s just wholly unnecessary cruelty.
A normal phishing email is like “you received a voicemail, click here to listen”, not “congratulations, bc we value you and recognize your contribution to the company, we wanted to reward you with something you’ll love…. PSYCH!”
I literally get about 20 phishing e-mails every singe day.
Many “appear” to be from companies I actually do financial business with. The legitimate ones occasionally send me legitimate emails. So I can never be 100% sure. My default is to never press on any link because the phishers are damn good at duplicating the real thing and a smart comapny would never send a link in the email. Usually, the biggest clue to what you are dealing with is the FROM email address. If you look carefully and know what it should be, most have some phoney FROM.
I have to think MSG has given all its emplyees information on how to avoid security risks and why they should never press on email links.
They are about to get a BIG reminder.
Um, this is not true at all. Not anymore at least. I literally just took a cyber security training seminar for my work. Phishing emails are getting very sophisticated, especially with AI. Scammers can use AI to scour all of your social media to find out where you work, who you’re loved ones are, what’s going on in your life, and then send very convincing emails to you. What would have taken a scammer several days to figure out can now all be combed off the web with AI in mere moments.
I actually don’t think the phishing scam by MSG to it’s employees seems that unusual. My wife’s company does this with their employees all the time. Sends out fake phishing emails and if you take the bait, you have to take a refresher cyber training class. My wife actually designed some of those fake emails that she sent to her co-workers.
The stuff with the coaches and their rings is weird but I don’t think the email to employees to check their cyber awareness seems that unusual. Also, you do realize Dolan wasn’t the one who sent the email, right?
Dr Stills would like a word with you:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away
Did Jordan Brink get a ring?
Would be enraging if the Challenge GOAT didn’t get one
yeah i don’t see what the problem is. cybersecurity is a massive problem and red teaming phishing simulations are
pervasive. the more emotionally tantalizing, the better the honeypot. a friend of mine had the clever idea to use potential vulnerabilities she gleaned from her files to send fake phishing alerts to her entire client base to help sure up their personal cyber resilience. she’s a pediatric oncologist.
Swifty, I was referring to the kind of phishing emails that companies send in a training exercise, not the ones scammers send.
I get them from my company all the time, too. None of them would ever make the news.
Yeah I just don’t see why this is “news.” The whole point of these fake phishing emails is to train your employees to recognize them so they don’t fall for the real ones.
I get that Dolan sucks but this feels like a pile on.
“I’m referring to the very real possibility that masked storm troopers are going to show up at polling places as our “president” invokes the insurrection act and declares martial law, preventing duly elected representatives from being seated. Just like I put nothing past Dolan, I put nothing past Trump and his cronies, including his insane Bond villain frenemy Elon Musk.”
“Duly-elected” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
It’s a simple fact that there are few if any checks in the process between registering for a drivers license, which makes you in turn presumptively eligible to vote and then receive a mail-in ballot. Illegal aliens are eligible in pretty much every state to get drivers licenses — so the problem is self-evident. It was so bad in New Jersey that they actually had to admit about 7,000 ineligibles because of a “software error,” but in fact its likely orders of magnitude higher.
It’s also a principle that can be seriously gainsaid that the federal government has a compelling interest in its offices not being held by people who were elected with a bunch of ineligible or fraudulent voters in the electorate.
We’ll just have to see how the push-and-pull of this works itself out, but to suggest that the federal government and its citizens have to just sit by quietly for this unchecked process that the states have no desire *to* check is pure nonsense.
(In reality, of course, denizens of the “smart party” have no real desire to live in harmony under our laws and constitution with their inferiors in the “dumb party” — and possibly vice versa, though that’s less certain — and this has been blatantly obvious for at least a decade. Again, we’ll just have to see how the push-and-pull works out, but if the two sides could be plausibly divided geographically as they could be in 1860, we’d have either divorced like Czechia and Slovakia, or would be in the process of doing so.)
“Dr Stills would like a word with you:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away”
Obviously you were in a coma on January 6, 2021, when Mike Pence was the only man standing between Trump and a violent coup. If not, you would understand that this is not paranoia at all, it’s a reasonable concern.
Or were you actually at the rally to stop the steal in defense of whatever you want to call our government? Or rooting for its success? If that’s the case, I understand why you would think my concerns are overblown.
I feel like we’re kind of debating whether or not water is wet here.
James Dolan is a dumb fucking asshole. It can be fun sometimes to talk about the baroque, almost sui generis nature of his assholery, but it’s honestly getting a little stale. We hardly talked about him for a while and things got really good. Now we’re talking about him again a lot, and let’s be honest, that probably doesn’t portend the greatest things.
E the conspiracy theorist. Never change, dude!
Case in point:
“…but in fact its likely orders of magnitude higher.”
Really? And you have proof of this, right?
I share this fear, but one thing we do have going for us is that these fuckers are lazy and incompetent. So I’m placing my hopes there.
Just in: Justice Dept. seeks to block certification of Alaska Senate race if Republican incumbent narrowly loses.
“Obviously you were in a coma on January 6, 2021, when Mike Pence was the only man standing between Trump and a violent coup. If not, you would understand that this is not paranoia at all, it’s a reasonable concern.”
Pence was about 20 yards away from being left “not standing.”
Well either Mike Pence … or … Mike Pence, the armed forces of the United States, the civilian law enforcement agencies and criminal courts of the United States, the various state National Guards, and the civilian law enforcement agencies and criminal courts of the several states — take your pick.
Shams:
Love you, I-Hart, but get this soccer BS way out of here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1xd35it/highlight_aaron_gordon_with_a_brutal_violent_foul/
Knecht is a nice pick-up. Are we paying him in baked goods? Who wins out between him and Mr. Nickel?
Though I will say that the threat level to our institutions and a peaceful and orderly transition to a new Congress is actually far higher this cycle than it was on January 6, 2021.
That much is definitely true.
It’s tough when you’re a sensible centrist and process/procedure guy; on the one hand, I’d certainly support Trump being impeached and removed if he steps even a little bit out of line; on the other hand, there’s certainly no illusions here about the ultimate origin of the federal-state, elite-normie conflict we’re currently involved in and that we might not recover from.
“I feel like we’re kind of debating whether or not water is wet here.”
Exactly.
Based on Lakers fans reactions to Knecht’s first week in the NBA I am betting my life savings on the repeat.
16/5 per 36 for Knecht in his career with 59.9 2FG% and 36.8 3FG% (and a high game of 37) sounds like good potential to me.
I was hoping that would happen. I like Kevin but he’s pretty much used up all of his upside cards here, especially when you can pick up the Bruce Browns of the league on minimum deals.
Knecht had a pretty solid rookie season. Seems like he just hit a developmental wall in LA. Not sure why they decided to eat his $4M salary for this year rather than just cutting Bronny, who seems to have zero chance of sticking in the NBA. Do they still owe favors to LeBron?
Who is losing minutes to Knecht, though? I’d hate to see him never get off the bench—maybe he’s just Shamet insurance. Guy can shoot. I like Nickel, but I’d put Knecht ahead of him (Nickel was never getting minutes this season, anyway).
I was leaving the light on for Konchar but he just signed in Greece.
We definitely need a much better game from Cap if we are going to win tonight. Celts are going to be hungry at home after losing their Game 1, as well.
No one
Over the last couple of years, still absolutely hating Dolan, I relented on my belief that he should sell the team mostly because he let Leon run things, but also because seeing the group of new owners were…be careful of what you wish for. But…
Forget about the ethics of a company making believe their employees are more highly valued than they are for a competence test. Before the email, likely most were actually valued. The idea that the worst would click and the best would not click is counterintuitive. And no HR department would ever sign off on an IT security test that would result in everyone of those employees (both those that clicked and those that unclicked) being annoyed at their employer.
OK, a company can do what it wants if it is private and ignore the implications on value given the owner. Not as clear-cut if it is public even if Jimmy has majority control and his family and friend stooges are directors. Someone, perhaps a regulator or short hedge fund, should be focussing on their governance structure and disclosure…and force him to change what needs to be changed.
Not wishing to discuss politics here with a fellow who is so volatile when discussing mundane basketball issues, but I’ve never seen a vIoLeNt InSuRrEcTioN led by folks without arms and spurred on by a guy whose battle cry was and I quote, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
Real William Wallace level stuff, eh?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/21/opinion/trump-midterms-election-threats-ice-economy.html#permid=154999772
whoa, how in the world did we get talking about this dreck…oh yeah, our team owner is…very much not a great guy…
that tracks…
Alright PT, you owe me a new shirt because there is coffee all over mine
I like Knecht
This gets back to my panting sycophant comment of a few days ago. No way that phishing email was James Dolan’s idea, I don’t think he’s even smart enough, nor do I think he spends time in the HR and/or the IT department. What he’s done is put a bunch of hideous asshats in charge of MSG and they model their behavior after their boss.
I’ll leave my political views to myself. Luckily Chronic Wasting Disease prions are liable to kill us all well before things get all that much worse (it’s in soil and plants, including agricultural crops, and can jump to macaques, while hunters gobble tainted meat in a grand experiment to push the zoonotic aspect…). Side recommendation — don’t hang out with wildlife vets…
Trump had zero guns supporting him on January 6 and would have been arrested within 30 seconds if he’d tried to hold over. If he shit-disturbs this election, as he probably will, it’s hard to see him getting the support of any guns this time either. He might get ICE to arrest some illegal voters after the fact, but that doesn’t do anything to shut down the seating of certified elected men and women.
He’ll probably avidly litigate, but so what?
“…there’s certainly no illusions here about the ultimate origin of the federal-state, elite-normie conflict we’re currently involved in and that we might not recover from.”
Well we “sort of” recovered from one of the most bitter and bloody civil wars in modern human history, so there’s that.
The thing that worries me most is that my guess is that there’s enough of a disparity in assault weapons ownership between one side and the other that if a call to arms was ever issued, it could be a one-sided affair with a 1930s Germany outcome. The possibility of a coup on January 6 was very real, and the scales came very close to tipping. Only a few “level headed” folks prevented it from happening. Those kinds of folks are no longer in a position to do so. There are rogue ultra-Trumpists in charge of the military and the FBI, and rogue “secret police” forces, most notably ICE, that are under his command. There are guys like Stephen Miller in his inner circle that will encourage Trump to use of whatever means are necessary to keep Congress out of the hands of the enemy. There are rogue podcasters and paramilitary leaders with dog whistles just itching to be the voice of some kind of revolution. There is red-baiting in this campaign that would make Joe McCarthy blush.
I personally will not be able to relax until the voting takes place without massive disruption and violence at the polls, or in the tabulation of the results, and the winners are determined at the state level with a reasonable degree of bipartisan acceptance, and the winning candidates are seated. I guess that will happen some time in January. Until that time, the Knicks and James Dolan are pretty fucking far down the list of things I am worried about.
“Trump had zero guns supporting him on January 6.”
Ad that’s supposed to be reassuring? Are you fucking kidding?
Most “coups” aren’t zero guns versus all the guns, so yeah, I’m kinda reassured by that. If one is of a mind or makeup in which they don’t really *want* to be reassured, that’s a different story. That’s not me.
Pete Hegseth would be arrested immediately if he issued any kind of order for the uniformed military to support a “coup” against the duly-elected Congress.
That move would be supported by 80% of the public and a higher percentage than that of the people that mattered. Maybe higher.
The intelligence agencies are 100% against Trump and his movement; things would be different — far different — if that was not the case.
He might get some MAGA guns behind him, but they would be crushed immediately by the organized guns of the existing federal and state governments. Plus a bunch of those MAGA people talk a big deal about their guns but they’re just blowing insecure laughable smoke and will never use them.
“Not wishing to discuss politics here with a fellow who is so volatile when discussing mundane basketball issues, but I’ve never seen a vIoLeNt InSuRrEcTioN led by folks without arms and spurred on by a guy whose battle cry was and I quote, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
Real William Wallace level stuff, eh?”
Right. It was just your typical post-election scene at the Capitol. Nothing to worry about! In fact, I’m sure that if Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi showed up and tried to talk the crowd down, they would have been totally safe because there were no guns there! Yeah, that was great leadership Trump exercised on that day,
BTW, last I checked, Kristallnacht didn’t really involve guns either.
Kristallnacht had the 100% backing of government guns.
“Pete Hegseth would be arrested immediately if he issued any kind of order for the uniformed military to support a “coup” against the duly-elected Congress.
That move would be supported by 80% of the public and a higher percentage than that of the people that mattered. Maybe higher.
The intelligence agencies are 100% against Trump and his movement — things would be different — far different — if that was not the case.
He might get some MAGA guns behind him, but they would be crushed immediately by the organized guns of the existing federal and state government. Plus a bunch of those MAGA people talk a big deal about their guns but they’re just blowing insecure laughable smoke.”
If I went into surgery and was told that there is a 98% chance I would survive, I’d still be nervous going in. I guess that’s just me.
In terms of the most “realistic’ possible negative outcomes, I’ll quote my good friend E:
“Though I will say that the threat level to our institutions and a peaceful and orderly transition to a new Congress is actually far higher this cycle than it was on January 6, 2021.
That much is definitely true.”
On at least basketball-adjacent news, this headline says everything I would want to say about why I’m glad LeBron didn’t come to the Knicks (and it’s more about the press than James):
LeBron notches biggest rally of his career as 76ers storm back from 29-point deficit
140 officers were assaulted on J6. And Bob is cherry picking an anodyne line from Trump’s speech while ignoring the rest of the rhetoric of the afternoon.
“And we fight. We fight like hell.”
He ignored that one. Also Rudy Giuliani’s “trial by combat” line seems to have been forgotten.
Bob thinks we’re dumb. We’re not. Eat shit, Bob.
“Until that time, the Knicks and James Dolan are pretty fucking far down the list of things I am worried about.”
The Knicks defending their success…in the Cup!.. .has given me the peace of mind to concentrate on what I want follow as happen as iffy/somewhat likely to happen to never going to/ NFW happen.
Get it, but the whole point of sports is rooting for a someone or a team that has nothing to do with the real world every fan deals with. It’s an escape. and good one.
“Kristallnacht had the 100% backing of government guns.”
So did January 6. The armed government agencies that could have been deployed by the Commander-in Chief to stop the insurrection were not deployed either before or during the process. The President egged on the insurrectionists and did not intervene as they entered the Capitol threatening to hang members of Congress until he was begged to by his subordinates.
This time, he has the secretary of war, the joint chiefs, the attorney general, the head of the FBI and ICE, all in his pocket. And he is STILL preaching that he won in 2020! He has mass-pardoned even the most violent convicted felons associated with the event. He is mulling the use of the Insurrection Act. His AG and FBI director have already set up the infrastructure to obstruct voting and counting.
But hey, what am I worried about?
Your opinion is duly noted. Do you feel better now?
Bob does think some of you folks have a certain Greta Thunberg quality to you. But carry on.
Can yall please not discuss this crap here?
We are really embracing the “2nd draft” approach as a way to groom future players, but I’m not sure a future Knecht/Wiseman lineup will be watchable. Might as well try, though.
No, Donald Trump’s “coup” on Jan 6 had zero government guns behind it. All the government guns supported Joe Biden taking over the presidency pursuant to the Constitution on Jan 20.
(Nor did Donald Trump call to his side any government guns on Jan 6, but that’s a different question. If he had, he’d have likely been arrested on Jan 20 at 12:30 pm — if not earlier, depending on the actual facts.)
“Can yall please not discuss this crap here?”
Sorry ess, my bad. My household is election central, as my wife is a district leader and is either campaigning or canvassing pretty much every day, so it’s a hard topic for me to avoid. Not to mention that even while watching sports the attack ads are nonstop.
I don’t know if everyone else is still here, but I just read there’s an interesting deadline coming up:
I would love to get our hands on Sorber as a developmental big.
OK we are 0-1 on division rivals. Could easily go 0-2 to the C’s given Mitch. Everyone here on tenderhooks. But why not revert to music rather than politics to keep the karma? Or even the the unifying posts on Jimmy?
Edit: seems ess and Z solved it
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if these options are for next year OKC would have until the end of June 28 to get right with the aprons.
That would give them plenty of time to move I-Hart for picks should Mara prove capable, or something to that effect.
Why would they react today when their deadline is for 6/30/28?
Today’s thread is spicy and I AM HERE FOR IT!
OMG… 0-2! Tenderhook alert! Take a Valium guys.
By all accounts, JJ Redick seemed to think Knecht was dumb as a box of hammers, and couldn’t pick up basic schematic concepts. So my expectations are very low for him.
I don’t understand…why Knecht?? We already have 2 Knecht types who are at least willing to play some defense in Nickel and Dadiet. Hell..if we wanted yet another guard who shoots, couldn’t awe have found a way to keep Konchar?? At least he plays defense.
JJ Redick molests collies.
“By all accounts, JJ Redick seemed to think Knecht was dumb as a box of hammers, and couldn’t pick up basic schematic concepts. So my expectations are very low for him.”
That’s disappointing. Way to kill my positive vibe about him, Alan! 😀
I thought we released Konchar because of injury. But now I think that was Eubanks.
The daily fantasy NBA slate versus the daily fantasy NHL slate is definitely screaming at me to go with NHL tonight.
if we were going to sign a second draft guy i would have been rooting for clayton or devin carter but i guess this is okay. i’m guessing tyler nickel feels like his prom date just asked big bro to come along
go lady z-man!!!
one good thing about this morning’s discussion, it has made me think even more about getting to the ballot on my desk and filling it out…
used to fret on what it all meant inside, particularly with all the different measures, bunch of unfamiliar candidates – confusing…
things are much easier these days – look up the progressive or socialist ballot recommendations for my state/region, and there it is…
the pot started boiling back in the early 70’s, it just took until 2015, and later, for most of us to wake up and find out we were in it and getting seriously scalded…
“one good thing about this morning’s discussion, it has made me think even more about getting to the ballot on my desk and filling it out…”
Or you could, you know, just drive to your polling place on Election Day.
Or he could, you know, mail it in now.
Sometimes Google is pretty fun.
There is no credible, verified information that JJ Redick has engaged in any misconduct involving “collies” or any other individuals.
The phrase “molests collies” is a well‑known comedic line from the 1980 film Caddyshack, spoken by character Ty Webb in response to Lacey Underall saying, “My uncle says you’ve got a screw loose”. It is a fictional joke and not a real statement about any person.
Bob, the full context is here:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/50241622/contract-talks-thunder-payroll-opening-week
Incidentally there’s also bits in there about how thunder did not make the same decision we did, and quotes from Presti and another GM about how other teams explicitly disagree with Dolan’s approach to the apron.
“There’s nothing wrong with going into the second apron for a year or two, if you’re good enough. In fact, you probably should.”
The snapshot date for the luxury tax and long-term apron penalties is the last day of the regular season, not the end of June.
Dalton Knecht is not an NBA rotation player. He has no skill other than shooting and he’s not even very good at that. He was 23 when he was drafted and was supposed to be NBA ready, but at 25 he’s floating around the back of NBA rosters because he isn’t very good.
He has first round pedigree and is actually a decent athlete for a guy who is basically just a spot up shooter, but hasn’t made that athleticism translate into anything. Maybe the Knicks believe they can develop him (insert shrug emoji)
the short version is Presti may not want to get caught with a pair of Dadiets on his team this summer that he has to pay to get rid of to avoid $60M in taxes, so he may just decline the options of Sorber and Topic while he can.
Knecht should be a better fit in Brown’s offense than he was standing around waiting for Luka to pass the ball. That’s all I got.
McCullar’s shot looked as broken as ever in the preseason.
very very fortunate to have a drop box downtown, which is only a couple of miles away…
put doja doggie in the car with me, drive over to my ballot drop box and snap a pic dropping it in…that is the way…
hmmmm, maybe plan a trip to sees candies afterward…little added incentive on top of some civic duty stuff…
for some reason, almost everything that requires some thinking about it usually ends up on the bottom of the to do list for a while/weeks/months…
I see the reasoning here, but they are looking at extensions for Deuce, KAT, Brunson, Hart, etc in the next 1-3 years. How does they payorll ever come down with these players in their primes?
Maybe, and I don’t know if this is true, they believe staying out of the the second apron this year is easier than avoiding it the next few.
There must be a reason 29 of 30 teams avoid it like the plague and there must be 8 teams that have a realistic chance of making the finals.
They don’t, and you have to fundamentally misunderstand the second apron to believe this sort of thing is true.
You can’t just choose to go over the second apron. Only a very narrow set of circumstances makes it even possible. In a given year, 20-25 teams couldn’t even do it if they wanted to.
That doesn’t seem likely since you just told us how great it would be to get a chance at Sorber. I’m guessing you aren’t the only one who thinks that way. I think it is wishful thinking to hope Presti jettisons a 15th pick who tore his ACL in September of his rookie seaason.
Topic was highly regarded before his draft season and after recovering from a pre draft ACL injury he got testicular cancer. I don’t see how he equals Dadiet.
All I know is 4 teams were in it in 24/25. 3 of them got out after one year and the other team got out after 2 years.
That’s what you’re supposed to do. You go over when you think you can win the championship, then you get under when you don’t.
But you can only do it by resigning your own player. You can’t free agent sign your way over it. It’s not like the Pistons or Spurs could have gone out and added a player but chose to stay under the second apron instead.
I think there were only 5 teams this year who could have done it: NY, DEN, OKC, CLE, and GS.
Not 30.
5.
And 1 of those 5 teams (Denver) chose to go over it instead of losing a player for nothing.
No one is avoiding it like the plague except us.
Taking a picture of dropping your ballot into the dropbox will mean literally less than nothing to anyone who is supposed to care about it in the future.
awwwww doogie…it’s okay to do stuff for yourself…
self love is an important thing, crucial even…actually, it’s the whole love your neighbor, welcome the stranger thing that’s hard for me…
ha, now i’m gonna have to go scour my gallery to find those pics 😊
“awwwww doogie…it’s okay to do stuff for yourself…
self love is an important thing, crucial even…actually, it’s the whole love your neighbor, welcome the stranger thing that’s hard for me…”
I have no idea what I wrote that would have prompted that response. Please clarify. 🙂
An unfortunate mistake is when I knock over my martini glass.
A calculated and repeatedly signed-off-on email to all staff is not an unfortunate mistake. It is a callous and very purposeful error in judgement.
just that folks do things for different purposes that may not easily correlate or be understood in another’s life…
what in the heck is that crazy person doing/thinking?
you are right though, the initial pic taking thing was probably paranoia related (but I did drop off my ballot, see)…now just more capturing a moment in time…
“an unfortunate mistake.”
God does he have sycophant imbeciles working for him. What a stupid statement unless he thinks he can bar every single lawyer from serving him by facial recognition at the Garden. “Unfortunate mistake”, while sounding good has never meant you were wrong or liable.
Once again, the relevant comparison to the 2026-2027 Knicks when it comes to the decision to duck the second apron are teams who:
1) were clearly inner-circle contenders, and
2) could have gone into the second apron for the first time in order to either acquire a good player or keep one.
It’s beyond pointless to artificially rack up the denominator by including the Nets and Pelicans here.
Undoubtedly, teams in this scenario have a mixed record–Boston, Cleveland, and Denver crossed into the second apron, and then made subsequent moves to avoid the 3 in 5 penalty, but other teams have ducked it. I’m certainly not saying James Dolan is the only cheap owner (though he is the only one who owns the franchise that would at least arguably have the highest resale value).
But we really need to retire the idea that it would’ve been unprecedented for him to go into the second apron for the first time to keep together a championship team.
bulls/bucks kicking things off early today…I’ll pass…
Let’s say, just hypothetically, that at 2:24 PM, with the rioters literally having just breached the Capitol, and Mike Pence having not yet been evacuated from a building full of people chanting about their desire to kill him, Donald Trump sent a tweet saying:
Would you say that could be construed as an encouragement of a vIoLeNt InSuRrEcTioN?
That’s quite a straw man argument. No one said it would be unprecedented… I just argued it is reasonable to think paying an additional 60-85M this year would be a bad business decision for a guy whose availability when it counts is questionable.
Why are we writing “vIoLeNt InSuRrEcTioN” as if it is a ransom note? Is that a way to keep Musk AI bots off of your tracks?
geo, I didn’t think it was crazy at all to capture yourself putting your ballot into a dropbox. I only think it’s optimistic at best that it would ever end up mattering to anyone else if it needed to.
good news guys we may be getting ringz
not a big jewelry fan, can I just get some chocolate instead…mmmmmmm, like some dark cherry cordials…yeah, that’ll do it…
This really isn’t the place for this discussion. I’d be happy to engage you via e-mail or whatever if you are truly interested in a perspective different than your own, but somehow I doubt it.
Haagen Dazs Ice Cream White Chocolate Raspberry Truffle for the win, Geo.
This has been my kind of Friday mid-season thread!
The only thing it’s missing is Mike Bunge chiming in in favor of Dolan by quoting Love The One You’re With.
No one was charged with the federal crimes of insurrection or rebellion as a result of their activities on January 6. Roughly 30 people, a tiny percentage of the people involved and charged, were charged with seditious conspiracy and fewer than that actually pleaded guilty or were convicted of that crime.
The other 2,000 or thereabouts were charged with various garden variety mob riot related crimes.
It wasn’t an insurrection because few if anyone in the mob had formed any kind of insurrectionist intent when they joined or participated in the mob. That’s the actual factual backdrop; if one feels obligated to call it an “insurrection” so as to maintain solidarity with their feelz, or as a group identification signifier, I guess there’s really not much that can be done about that.
Simplified, it was an attack on a federal proceeding by a faction of the mob, but not an attack on federal authority.
Trump should have been barred from holding future office as a result of his conduct and interactions with the mob — that’s also true.
The only thing I can tell you about Dalton Knecht is that there’s a settlement mill here in southern california called Lemon Daddy that used to have tons of billboards featuring Austin Reeves all around town. Then, presumably because Reeves got too good and subsequently expensive to pay for, they replaced Reeves with Knecht, which seemed a little racist, but I think it was just easy to superimpose Knecht’s face into the existing Laker motif while maintaining Reeve’s entry-level scrub salary.
I have never seen Knecht’s face outside of those ads though. Hopefully Lemon Daddy has a New York office.
Settlement mill is a new term for me.
A reminder from your mods, please avoid political discussions. At least until Mike K starts one.
There’s mods here?
oh yeah, that’s the good stuff there, makes a bad day bearable, good day better, and the bestest of days…even bestier 😊
If anyone here is interested in actual basketball, there is a good game going on between the Bucks and the Bulls right now. Mid-way through the third quarter it’s a 2-point margin, with Kyle Kuzma (14/8) leading the way for the Bucks and Jalen Smith (12/6) (sigh), who also had a good Game 1, leading the way for the Bulls.
Herro (who also had a good first game for the Bucks) has 21, while Leonard Miller has 15 for the Bulls. I think he was on the Clips last season, but don’t feel like looking it up. He might have actually been on the Bulls last season, too.
EDIT: OK, I gave in. Miller was never on the Clips. He split time between the Wolves and Bulls last season, which educated guessedly (not a real term) makes me think he probably came over in the Dosunmu trade. Didn’t do much on the Wolves; thrived on the Bulls, much like Ayo did in Minny.
Miller reminds me of long ago lefty Knick Toby Knight.
see the brewers are favored over the rays for the world series…
think i would disagree…
interested though to see how things play out…
Brunson and Lowry chopping it up. I like.
Why is Lowry even there?
nova guy
Hubert, believe it or not Brian and I cosplay as mods
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