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Who’s pumped to wait for the 50th pick?!?!
Or at least, who’s pumped to see what weird trades Brock Aller executes to move us up and down in the second round.
I am!!!
Just read the Chinese kid was supposed to go in the second round. Could end up being one of the worst picks in a long time and I find that exciting.
That New Orleans trade also seems really really terrible.
Hansen Yang is one of the more “I simply do not see it” picks in recent memory for me personally. I think he’s an NBA player, but I just see a backup center who plays for 10 teams. I’ll be rooting for him though!
I am still in utter shock that New Orleans, coming off a 21-61 season, traded an unprotected 2026 first to move up 10 spots in a middling draft. I don’t have the words for it. I’m not sure we ever did anything that insane under Isiah or Phil or Layden or anyone else.
Noble, with you on that. Was so confused by all the crazy (and seemingly terrible) decision-making last night that I gave up and have been trying to make sense of it all this morning. Much of it I can’t.
On the one hand it’s kind of sad, as it seems the bad teams are not getting better for the most part (and may be getting worse). On the other hand, if we do decide to try some trades later on, it does suggest some very weak-thinking front offices out there…
I will admit to enjoying Brock Allier’s draft day wheeling and dealing, fingers crossed he pulls some shenanigans to move up or get another pick.
I guess the boon of a two day draft is that we don’t have to wait all 50 pick just for Leon to trade out of the draft. I did miss Dylan Harper’s mom though.
Yang pick is weird. I guess you can’t teach big. Happy 20th birthday today, quite a present from Portland.
Maybe with Sorber on board for OKC, we can get iHart back given they now have one too many players.
Kidding, but a girl can dream…
agreed
Knicks 2025 says:
June 25, 2025 at 21:56
sorber will be pretty good let us get ihart back they do not need him anymore joke
The Athletic has a Mock Round Two up!
With the 50th pick in 2025 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks select Johni Broome from Auburn University.
Hey! Maybe Charles Barkley would ease up on us a little.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6450435/2025/06/26/nba-mock-draft-round-2-kam-jones-tyrese-proctor/
Athletic from previous link:
Broome is coming off a terrific fifth season where he was the runner-up for national player of the year because of his physicality and ability to establish position on the interior. He also has the potential to shoot it and is sharp positionally on defense. However, he’s a bit slow and is undersized in a way that concerns teams.
In the past I would’ve had very strong opinions as to who we should take at #50, but I’ve been burned too many times by trade outs and stashes and the like. So I’ll just say my favorite guys remaining are Thiero, Fleming, Martin, Markovic, and a Summit league guy I can’t quit by the name of Jacksen Moni.
It does seem likely we make a pick somewhere because if we want to avoid the second apron and/or be able to use the TPMLE, we have to really cheap out on some of the last roster spots and second round picks are the easiest way to do that.
Broome does seem more likely than most to be able to give you emergency NBA minutes in 2025-2026, but I don’t love the track record of guys who dominated their college team’s offense and then had to transition to a fraction of that role in the NBA.
Yeah TFNH basically summed up my feelings on Broome (and the draft as it pertains to the Knicks at this stage).
I only want shooters, so Lanier, Brea, Tonje, and Peavy all seem fine to me.
Re: the idiot Blazers, now that they have seven centers, maybe Hubie man-crush Duop Reath will finally shake loose?? Dare to dream…
Reath and Dink Pate also have me wondering what a Funny Name All-NBA team would be?
I don’t care who they pick and what position he plays, but he better be able able to play defense.
The various pundits are all beating up the Nets for 1)Using all five of their picks rather than trying to consolidate for a trade up, or flipping one or more for future assets, and 2)Taking three point guards. Reminds me a little of Minnesota taking Rubio and Johnny Flynn back to back, though it doesn’t seem like there’s a Steph Curry that the Nets passed on with any of their choices.
I feel like Maluach should have been an easy decision for them. They went in totally the opposite direction.
yeah jonny flynn was picked #6 and played only around 3700 regular season minutes in the nba he actually had a decent rookie season fifth in roy voting but then dropped off a cliff quickly as they moved to rubio instead
It’s not exactly grading on a curve, but all the Leon critics should look at NO and Portland and the Suns and the Nets and acknowledge that at least we aren’t THAT anymore.
I mean, NO especially is setting the land speed record for incompetence…
Nets definitely should have picked Malauch at #8. Then they could get tons of assets for Claxton. They got Traore later on (he was mocked top-5 at the beginning of the season), which was a really good PG pick IMO. Demin is going to be worthless unless he learns to shoot.
No team except OKC wants to do the proper rebuild for some reason.
A wise man once said, “Whether you like it, or don’t like it, learn to love it, ’cause it is the best thing going today. Woo!”
If we pick Jhoni Broome, then after we sweep someone in the playoffs we can just have him run all over the court
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
Don’t let Pelinka outmaneuver you, Brock!
yeah jonny flynn was picked #6 and played only around 3700 regular season minutes in the nba he actually had a decent rookie season fifth in roy voting but then dropped off a cliff quickly as they moved to rubio instead
It isn’t easy to trade for a promising young player that turns out to be way better than even you imagined and ultimately wins the MVP. Without that, they’d still be rebuilding or trying to convince some superstar to go to OKC and be their #1 option (which still might not be enough given they went 7 games twice with the actual MVP and both times the other team was less than 100% ).
There’s a lot of luck involved.
The projected #45 pick is Kobe Sanders.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6450435/2025/06/26/nba-mock-draft-round-2-kam-jones-tyrese-proctor/
This could be like when Scott Layden chose Mike Sweetney and told the interviewer, “it worked out pretty well the last time we picked a big man from Georgetown!”
You just got Pelink’d!
The other issue Flynn had was that he was more of a traditional PG but in the first couple of seasons Rambis was wasting him trying to turn him into a triangle guard. It was the opposite of wasting time trying to make Frank a PG even though he should be off ball because he had no handle.
Because of our situation I didn’t really follow the draft this year so I have nothing to say about the players or the picks, but that Chinese kid had a great suit.
The pelicans gave up an unprotected pick last night and some of you guys actually believe Leon Rose can’t make a good trade this summer for Mikal Bridges. Pretty unbelievable.
Hollinger:
Does Dieng count as OAKAAK?
Btw I say it’s pretty remarkable that Leon couldn’t get that Bridges trade done with one ‘24 pick and one ‘25 pick instead of two ‘25 picks. As if Brooklyn was really going to walk away from one of the greatest robberies of all time if he got one small concession.
“The pelicans gave up an unprotected pick last night and some of you guys actually believe Leon Rose can’t make a good trade this summer for Mikal Bridges. Pretty unbelievable.”
Weren’t we recently discussing Joe Dumars’ record after being given the job with the Pelicans. I’m pretty I was arguing it wasn’t a very good move.
Leon’s still trying to figure out a way to get him to NY.
i believe that a player has to play at least one nba minute for the knicks in order to be oakaak
The 2nd round used to have a late-show at the Improv feel to it, with Russ Granik mugging for a drunker-by-the-minute crowd, so I get that they wanted to make a change, but, c’mon, there can’t be more than 6 or 7 people in the country that are going to tune in to live television just for picks 31-60.
Dumars has made a believer out of me, Hubie. There are enough “new Isiahs” out there that anything is possible. Mikal for Zion, here we come!
as usual tho we did not strike while the iron was hot to work over some dumb gm and now our chances are much more diminished to do so
Having not thought about it or caring much at all, I am feeling like I’d rather have a shooter at 50 — wing or guard, or a big but that’s unlikely — than just another big, given we have Mitch and Huk and Precious, not to mention KAT. I have an odd feeling that Precious won’t be with us for long, but even so a late second round rookie big isn’t likely to be that useful in Year 1. Or 2.
yeah i like what we did last year when we drafted guys who could actually develop and be useful such as kolek and huk now we just have to actually play and develop them
Raven, I’m with you, unless the plan is to trade Mitch for help elsewhere on the roster. In which case Huk is now the backup center and we need more depth at that position. If the plan is to keep KAT and Mitch, and to play KAT at center at least part of the time, we very much don’t need another Jericho Sims type on the 15-man.
I’d really love to pick up Larry Nance Jr. He’s hurt a lot, but that’s why we could get him – and when he’s healthy he’s a good player. Mich better then Precious.
Or Al Horford, but that seems pie in the sky.
Draft thought of the day:
I have always disliked pick-protections, but I understood why teams would want them. With the newly flattened lottery, though, I feel like the league should get rid of them altogether, save for maybe a “top 1” protection. Protections as they are make tracking this stuff nearly
impossible, complicate the trade machine, and punishes future generations of fans. That is all.
I’ve argued this as well, Donnie. The question is whether such a change could be applied retroactively, and whether that would be fair.
it would definitely not be fair to apply that retroactively which is almost always the case teams can only make decisions operating under the rules in place at the time they make those decisions
Why would it need to be retroactive? Just stop the practice for all future trades and the current protections will phase out.
Such an obvious joke, but so good:
https://x.com/getmoneyjord/status/1938286855222337602
If we buy a second rounder, it caps us at the second apron. But as Katz said on his podcast the other day, the Knicks probably don’t want to go into the second apron this year, anyway, so it’s not that big a deal. Unless, that is, the miracle scenario happens at midseason and Giannis or someone of that level says they only want to be traded to the Knicks. And then we can’t go over the second apron to make such a deal happen.
There’s a good chance Payton Sandfort will be available when we pick. He’s 6’6″ or so and can shoot the absolute lights out. The only problem is he can’t really do anything else.
Still, he might be the best shooter in the whole class and you could do a lot worse than that at #50.
Sandfort reminds me of Sam Hauser.
Hunter Salis would bring some much needed shot creation to this team off the bench..
This apron business is making the league less fun. I wonder how many Oklahoma City and San Antonio championships it will take before everyone realizes they’ve been had.
(It’s not just the players who’ve been fooled, but the 20 something teams that don’t play in small markets, and the league itself.)
how is shooting 40.7 percent from the field overall and 34.0 percent from 3 equivalent to shooting the lights out
sandfort has a game like sam hauser and a name like payton pritchard
Doogie has managed to turn me into a curmudgeonly “watch the games” guy in my old age.
He took absolutely insane pull up shots regularly. His spot up numbers are elite. Was also injured for a lot of this year.
Nico is still saying that Kidd is definitely off the table and will be coaching the Mavs next year.
It’s going to be Brown isn’t it?
I hate when I’m in a position of hoping I am wrong in my prediction and also hoping I am wrong in what it means for the team in case my prediction was right.
I don’t know about this, Alan. Sims was actually a spot starter for the Knicks when injuries to centers.created the need. He got rebounds and held the fort for a few minutes a game. He played a similar role for the Bucks last season. He’ actually would be significant help for the Lakers. It’s fair to prefer getting a shooter, but Sims was clearly a good result for a pick in the 50s.
Brown wouldn’t be cromulent. He would just be lame.
Again, I don’t care about coaches but just seems so uninspired
For the 58th pick, he was a great result. I have no objection to the drafting of Jericho Sims for that team. I just mean this current roster has no need of that player archetype — a center who doesn’t space the floor — while we could really use another wing or two in the pipeline.
That’s very true. I’m hoping Dadiet can be that sort of player.
“That’s very true. I’m hoping Dadiet can be that sort of player.”
Hope so too, but I’d argue two to three years from now. You look at some of our recent ‘wings’ like Grimes and even Deuce, and it took them about three years before they pulled pieces of their game together into something worth having out on the court for extended minutes. And you could argue both were a bit more ready for prime time out of the gate (e.g., not 14 years old…).
I don’t think I would assign more than a 5% chance of Dadiet being a useful NBA player.
Looks like a season ending injury for Griffin Canning, so that now means the Mets have suffered injuries to their 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 starters this year. Only Holmes and Peterson out of their top 8 have avoided injury.
Damn Lakers not messing around….
We’ve been Pelink’d* again!
*copyright ess-dog
Maybe Aller’s taking the night off?
Looks good for him, except the Celtics maybe not being good next season. With all that said, i can’t bring myself to root for a Celtics player, so he needs to change teams if he wants me onboard again. 😀
Hoping for Dixon, Toohey, or Tonje at this point.
I was pretty agnostic on who to draft after pouring through a dozen profiles. I figure a shooter will have the most immediately useful skill, so I’m thinking they go for a shooter
We on!
Seems like Toohey is kind of a steal here but they probably want someone who’s ready to contribute
Proctor was a nice pickup
So Sanders is actually going to the Clippers?
I feel like Kobe Sanders has been picked three times already
I thought the same. Of course he was picked up one spot ahead of us. 😛
Aller is awake? 😀
What kind of stupid shit are they doing now?
Was about to post Vecenie’s summary of Kobe… But then Leon Leoned
So i’m trying to go to sleep and Aller starts trading back… 😛
Diawara.
dia-WARRRAAAA… yeah this guy’s not going to be in the rotation ever.
I fancy myself fairly plugged in to NBA draft prospects and have never heard of this guy
Cue the grainy French highlights.
Another french for Dadiet to not feel homesick 😀
Was that the NY Knicks or Westchester Knicks that made that pick?
Let’s get back to the coaching search and free agency.
Diawara was at #81 on ESPN… what a steal! 😀
Diawara was ranked below Dink Pate.
Can they just drive between the lines one time? Sanders or Toohey would have been fine.
Hollinger:
Congrats if you wasted time watching this
What did we get for trading Sanders to the Clippers?
Sorry , question mostly answered in a post that crossed mine. We mostly got the next pick. Did we get anything else?
This seems to be a fairly robust profile, though I don’t know how good the guy is:
https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/mohamed-diawara-scouting-report
Diawara was ranked below Yinka Dare.
Edwards:
— from Hoopshype
I kind of wanted Dink Pate. I googled this kid we drafted and saw a description of him as the French Duop Reath
Oh look we took the 81st ranked player in a 60 player draft so we could avoid having to pay a rookie again.
We also got rights to Luka Mitrovic. He’s 32.
Nostradamus over here (posted by KnicksMemes before the draft):
https://x.com/knicksmemes/status/1938382605071880445?s=46
Just got the script for tonight: Knicks Fans will identify 1 or 2 prospects they really want to fall to the Knicks despite the huge likelihood that a #50 pick will never contribute. That guy WILL fall to 50, but the Knicks will trade down/out and/or draft someone from Europe
Can I interest you in the draft rights to 32 year-old Luka Mitrovic, drafted #60 in 2015?
Diawara is supposed to play in Summer League so assuming last season’s 4 rookies also play at least it’ll be worth watching a bit.
Max Shulga and Hunter Salis about to go undrafted maybe
Diawara isn’t providing much watchability, maybe Pacome looks decent though
Thanks. Unbelievable. I mean, why bother?
Leon just wants to make us feel better about all the picks he traded for Bridges by reminding us that there was no chance he would ever do something positive with any of them.
Boston gets another feisty white guy in Shulga.
The Warriors make smart picks, of course.
Well Shulga is gone, another shooter
Could be worse, Leon could’ve drafted five straight BUSTERS in one 1st round
Maybe we can grab someone interesting from the undrafted pool… He said with little enthusiasm.
Thankfully Leon has built a roster that is probably the favorite to win the East next season so we don’t have to give a shit about this year’s 51st pick in the draft.
Leon really dislikes winning at the margins, smh
this is aller’s white whale. the luka mitrovic draft rights were the compensation in the horrendous trade that netted the sixers the swap with sacto into number 3 pick jayson tatum in fieri markelle fultz. expect an nft.
If you’re mad we drafted 51st instead of 50th idk what to tell you it’s the same shit
The Knicks had their eye on this guy…
But 29 other teams have to pay rookies next year. We’re the only team that escaped the night unscathed. This deserves another Strickland article.
Here’s a basic scouting report…
A few game highlights…
…and some more…
…and some U18 stuff
I’m glad we’re not rushing out to sign undrafted guys like all those other teams… how desperate! What a bunch of LAMOS.
we drafted and paid 4 rookies last year. You can go to the strickland blog and yell at them directly for saying nice things about Leon
lets go get dink pate
Hell yes, DRed! I’m down for a little DP… wait.
RJ Luis JR got some terrible advice
If you look at nbadraft.net it has Diawara at 51 .
“…and has been receiving advice from Pacôme Dadiet.”
Favorite line of the night.
Wow, all but 4 of the picks today were traded. That’s some serious musical chairs. (And looks like the knicks managed to trade Kobe for diarrhea, very on point.)