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  • How Knicks rookie center Ariel Hukporti is making roster push – New York Post
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    Pelicans waive former Knicks guard who was part of 2021 playoff squad


  • Former Knicks star center suffers hand fracture in preseason game – Empire Sports Media
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    Grizzlies potential trade with Knicks would give New York NBA’s best defense

  • 192 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.10.18)”

    I don’t know the ins and outs of this team but I didn’t see Boone do anything I’d criticize last night. The bullpen had a day off, that was the game to go for. And he got the game to Weaver vs a PH w one out to go.

    Boone seemingly has three bullpen pitchers that he trusts, and one of them might be about to go Byung-yung Kim on him. Nice work, Brian.

    It’s pathetic how poor the platoon and bench options are. Again, nice work, Brian. Cleveland won that game with home runs from two pinch hitters. Boone has no one like that to turn to.

    And I joke with Al but I know he’s right about the bottom of the order. Their unexpected production is a gift.

    Lastly I know this Jazz guy got off to a great start but he reminds me of Starlin Castro. I’m not a fan.

    All in all it looks like another F- for Brian Cashman’s work beyond the stars. The Dodgers seem like they’re in another league, and I wouldn’t expect us to fare any better than the Mets.

    As much as they drive me fucking nuts the Yankees are winning the World Series this year.

    I’m not sure I agree a lack of PH options is a deep structural flaw. I mean, in a way, if you have stellar PH options it just means your starting lineup isn’t being optimized.

    The structural flaws of the roster that are revealing themselves to some extent are:

    1) the wasted money going to DJ and Rizzo

    2) a relatively shallow rotation in terms of guys who can reliably get you through 5-6, which in turn taxes a bullpen that was kind of hastily thrown together using Matt Blake voodoo

    Man, if we never came back I’d be fine. That was an absolute must win for them and pure house money for us. But we did, so I’m still grieving.

    I felt super bad for Shamet but then I looked it up and found out he has been paid twenty-nine millions of dollars for playing basketball up to now. He’ll be fine.

    Yeah, the lack of news on Shamet is frustrating.

    Is it true that so long as a player’s contract is non-guaranteed, that if he is waived at any point, his salary is pro-rated at that point and whoever is signed to a vet’s minimum deal is then signed for a pro-rated amount so it is a wash? In other words, if we waive Shamet for now, then sign Warren or some other vet to a non-guaranteed minimum deal, we can waive that player before the guarantee kicks in and sign Shamet or a different vet and still stay under the second apron because the two players add up to one vet’s minimum contract? Can you do this multiple times?

    The structural flaw isn’t the lack of pinch hitters, it’s the lack of quality supporting the stars. Last night’s lineup from 5-9 (Jazz, Berti, Volpe, Verdugo, Trevino) was a humiliating testament to Cashman’s ineptitude and a brutal reminder to what watching this team has been like in the postseason throughout his tenure. Yoshi Toranaga would have told Brian Cashman to commit seppuku for making his manager trot that out.

    And it seems like the bullpen has a similar structural problem, even with the unexpected emergence of Weaver. What happened to the two arms he picked up at the deadline? They hurt or they just suck?

    Schimdt seems like a gamer, I’ll give him that. We’ll see about Gil tonight.

    Shamet going from making 2.5 million to 15k is fucking rough

    Seriously?

    I’m sure Landry Shamet is a nice fellow and all that, but he has made 29 million F-en dollars in his career. He’s vested into his pension with the NBAPA. He should be in a pretty good spot to withstand the unfortunate injury.

    I’ve got folks sleeping on subway grates around the corner from my 10th st apartment. We’ve got hundreds of thousands of folks displaced by a hurricane where I read today, many won’t have electricity for months if they have the semblance of a home left.

    Hard for me to get all teary-eyed for poor old Landry. Bad break for him, but he’s in a way better spot than almost everyone on planet earth.

    I don’t know the ins and outs of this team but I didn’t see Boone do anything I’d criticize last night.

    He played Austin Wells.

    His team fucked up running the bases 4 times in the last 2 games. At some point that’s on him.

    I will say that the Yankees lost a bunch of games this season very similar to last night hence my love hate relationship with the 2024 Yankees. Holmes by himself had 13 blown saves. But they’ve always been able to shrug them off and move on to the next game so I’m not expecting any mental hangovers since they’re used to dealing with heartbreaking losses.

    Just jump on the awful Cleveland SP and give Gil some breathing room so he can hopefully settle in and throw 6 dominant innings like he’s done several times this year.

    The Yankees have two catchers. Trevino is fine for a backup and if Wells was actually hitting you wouldn’t see Trevino get playing time. Wells is most likely going to to win Rookie Of The Year btw.

    It’s a shame. Shamet would have been really useful to this team. I’m thinking that Warren was looking like a real nice vet pickup for some team. That should probably be us now as we’re done with training camp.

    I do feel bad for Landry. He’s likely a human being. That movie Anora was pretty damn good. Baker’s best since Tangerine.

    Not sure what to expect from Gil, but Gavin Williams sucks and the Yankees should score runs off him.

    Wells seems like a very good player mired in an untimely slump. I like him a lot.

    He does not seem like someone who should be batting cleanup after Soto & Judge, though. I assume he’s just there because Cashman whiffed on three positions like he always does.

    How nice would it be if Hukporti is the real deal?

    It’s like all the Mets’ weaknesses have been totally exposed by the Dodgers, and they are many. Stearns did a nice job patching over the holes in the house, but some remodeling/rebuilding is needed. The team will look a lot different next year.

    As for now, putting JD Martinez out to pasture is well past due. And, I really thought they’d give McNeil a look in game 1. Iglesias’s post season has not been good. Hey, he had a Cinderella regular season, but the clock struck midnight on him a while back, too.

    Maybe Peterson has some magic left today, b/c they desperately need it.

    Landry is most definitely, without a doubt, a human being.

    The reason the Knicks are unable to talk about his current status is because he is part of a very, very complicated trade that is in the works for Luka Doncic.

    Yeah didn’t realise that feeling sorry for a sorta journeyman who gets injured exhibits a total lack of social awareness. I certainly would classify losing his $2million in an instant as super rough, especially since his career trajectory changed in that same instance–probably a contributor to a Knick championship, now depending upon the severity either that or hanging on to another camp invite.

    a humiliating testament to Cashman’s ineptitude

    From my 2009 time capsule, I can report that Cashman put together 4 world series champions, and, judging (no pun intended, as I had never heard of Aaron Judge until around September 25th, 2024) from the previous few threads, Cashman has put the team on the cusp of another world series. I could go for some humiliation from my ineptitude like that.

    Up until 2 outs in the 9th, hard not to feel like Boone was finally pushing all the right buttons. Finding Holmes a spot where he can succeed. Dream Weaver doing his best Mo impression (at least in terms of results).

    It’s always ultimately on the players. The baserunning mistakes were awful. Austin Wells has a great Yankee moustache but at some point you’ve got to hit.

    Look, in the aggregate this team is getting better-than-expected production from Gleyber, Stanton, Verdugo, Volpe (I mean the bar is suuuuper low on those last two). The pen was flawless until it wasn’t. Judge was disappointing until he delivered. Rizzo looked amazing at the plate, but can’t pick up a ball right now.

    Would be a huge disappointment not to make the WS this year. Cleveland just isn’t that good. These are not the 2004 Red Sox.

    Against the Dodgers? It’s a coin-flip. Since they’ve expanded the playoffs, nobody has gone back to back right? We’re in with a puncher’s chance and I’m cool with that.

    (I love this Mets team btw but I don’t think it’s happening for them…right??)

    There’s been talk that Cashman could eventually make the HOF as an executive and I believe there’s only been a handful of GMs to make the HOF.

    His team fucked up running the bases 4 times in the last 2 games. At some point that’s on him.

    I have noticed that the team looks a little mindless too often.

    That makes sense bc the hall is well known for rewarding those who combine mediocrity with longevity.

    I get frustrated as hell with the Yankees but in Cashman’s 27 years running the team mediocre is definitely not an appropriate adjective to describe them.

    It’s preseason, but 35 points is nuts. And it looked smooth. Although you can kind of tell he was hunting his shot as the highlights went on. But rightfully so.

    in Cashman’s 27 years running the team mediocre is definitely not an appropriate adjective to describe them.

    You’re right. On a per-dollar-spent basis, his performance is abjectly awful.

    And let’s not pretend he’s “run this team” for 27 years. He’s been here for 27 years. For his first decade or so he was go-fer who reported to the Tampa brain trust.

    It was only when George handed things over to his kids around ‘07 that he actually began to run the team. And even then, ARod famously went around him to negotiate his extension directly with Tampa in 2009 after Cashman tried to run him out of town.

    Lakers with a gift at pick 17..

    Lebron must be salivating to trade him for Bradley Beal so he can “get the help he needs.”

    It’s going to be an interesting offseason for the Mets, who will have a lot of holes to fill, but will also have a ton of salary coming off the books and some solid prospects in the high levels of the minors who could be ready to contribute next year.

    Most importantly, the guy running the team has a patient, common sense approach to roster construction and a mandate to build something sustainable. The best way to win a World Series is to make the playoffs every year, and I feel like Stearns can and will pull that off. It’s why this Mets season feels more like the start of something rather than the end, despite the fact that we don’t REALLY have a ton of great players on the roster.

    The Mets have NEVER, in their entire existence, made the playoffs more than two years in a row. I have a good feeling that is going to change.

    The Mets have NEVER, in their entire existence, made the playoffs more than two years in a row.

    Wow, that’s kind of shocking. Yankees fans are spoiled AF.

    I wonder if the Mets might try to get under the Cohen tax for a year to reset that and then go big for ’26? I read that on one of the Mets sites some time ago.

    Stearns did real well with his one year deal guys, so maybe they’ll do that again, see how the AAA guys fare this next year, maybe some get promoted and look promising, then go big?

    Would be a huge disappointment not to make the WS this year. Cleveland just isn’t that good. These are not the 2004 Red Sox.

    The Yankees won 94 game. Cleveland won 92. There is very little difference between them no matter how good Soto and Judge were in the regular season.

    No matter the outcome of this season the Mets have an owner who is a finance criminal willing to spend enormous amounts of money and a front office that knows what it is doing. Maybe they take a step back next year, maybe not, but in the near term they should have a pretty sustained period of success.

    Knicks PR: “Landry Shamet dislocated his right shoulder and will be re-evaluated at a later date.”

    James Edward’s III: “Based on the wording here, sounds like the Knicks will take him into the season. Contract isn’t guaranteed until January.”

    Did they make a promise to him or something? It seems so much smarter to take a vet who could give them 10 minutes, like Warren or even Mook.

    Begley reported that there’s some optimism that he can avoid surgery. If that’s true then if they like him much more than the other options there may be incentive to keep him.

    I doubt they’ll want to waste a year of Lindor’s prime. You only have to finish in the top 6 of 15 teams to qualify for the playoffs, so there’s really no reason not to aim for that. They will have over $100M coming off the books and also have some good talent in the high minors, so Stearns is going to have a lot to work with.

    The Yankees won 94 game. Cleveland won 92. There is very little difference between them

    94 wins in the AL East is like 104 wins in the AL Central.

    Landry Shamet dislocated his right shoulder and will be re-evaluated at a later date…

    When he arrives for his physical in Žalgiris.

    It’s been a whole 6 months since I last heard a guy can skip surgery after a dislocated shoulder. Love the Knicks.

    (I know people can skip it sometimes but shush)

    Well, whatever offseason plan the Mets go with, I’d assume getting pitchers who walk less guys might be a priority.
    😀

    Now please someone place one in Ohtani’s ribs,
    I love beanballs wars, especially when the Yankees aren’t involved 😉

    I think the Dodgers CF who bat flipped and cruised slowly around the bases on his HR might get one in the ribs. His team was trailing by 6 runs when he did that!

    And now 2 Mets have been hit this inning, so……

    94 wins in the AL East is like 104 wins in the AL Central.

    Funny how the Yankees were only 26-26 vs the AL East while Cleveland was 18-15.

    Just checked on the Cohen Tax. $293 million, and as 3rd time offender, the Mets pay +110% on overages.

    Seems like they could still field a pretty good team while being under that threshold for one year and resetting?

    Yankees had a +147 run differential, Cleveland only had a +87 run differential which was actually worse than Kansas City.

    Knicks 0-7 from three, but Kolek just got in so hope springs eternal.

    So Bridges is indeed running with the second unit.

    No Deuce, rest day (?).

    Knicks now 1-10 from three.

    I don’t know what the medical staff is saying or is not saying. But I’ve dislocated my shoulder and Landry also dislocated his shoulder. It was plain as day watching it on the TV and I cringed. It’s a terrible injury.

    Probably not quite as bad as Julius, because a Power Forward has to bump and grind in the low post. I think Landy is more of a shooter.

    But he will be out at least 2 months if no surgery, and 4-6 months with surgery, which is more likely if it wasn’t a sublux. Which it wasn’t.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I was kind of happy we had another Landry on the team.

    I will always be fond of Sims, but they can trade him now. He’s deeply useless.

    Knicks now 1-13 from three.

    Oh good, and now Towns is injured. Although I think he just got banged in his naughty bits.

    Karl remains in after the timeout.

    Knicks 1-14 from three. Dadiet in.

    Dadiet using his 1 NBA-level skill — moving without the ball — to great effect

    I read somewhere that Mikal reworked his shooting mechanics this summer, raising his release point.
    Let’s just say that so far the jury is still out…

    And Towns is definitively soft 😉

    Towns is having a terrible game. Flailing around and missing shots like he’s hung over.

    I do, however, like that the Wizards helped OG up before helping Poole up.

    3-17 from three and down by two at the half. Wizard games are just kind of sad.

    For those too depressed to do the math, that’s 17.6%.

    Sugar with the low stress six out save. Threw strikes.

    Maybe Manaea pitches another gem in game 6 and we force them to 7

    So wait, the Dodgers have a bullpen game in Game 6 against Manaea, and then they’ll either have to start Walker Buehler or Yamamoto on short rest in Game 7?

    This ain’t over yet.

    Buehler pitched Wednesday and only pitched 4 innings . Game 7 would be Monday. It seems like he would be fine to pitch.

    If Mikal bricks this bad from distance once things start for real, the formula kind of falls apart.

    If the Knicks shoot and play like this against the Celtics I’ll be changing the channel by the middle of the 2nd quarter.

    Knicks are going to be DESTROYED by the Celtics.

    If they somehow win that, Thibs’ll deserve the Coach of the Year award after only one game.

    After tonight, I wonder if we could get a couple of 2nd round picks for Bridges. 😂😂😂😂

    “Knicks need to build chemistry.”

    Yeah, and Towns needs a heart, and Mikal needs a shot.

    Mikal shot will be fine

    Towns – I’ll worry about his lack of heart during meaningful games

    I have this picture in my mind of DDV watching this game and laughing while mooning his TV.

    Never say die Mets continue their run. Back to Los Angeles. I like our chances with manea in game 6 vs the dodgers bullpen. Get to game 7 it’s a toss up. I went to all 3 games at citi. Such an emotional release for the fans today after the 2 blowout losses. Weather a little warmer today as well. It saw the Mets bats wake up. Diaz had good life and movement. Maybe better grip. McNeil looked pretty bad at the plate and in the field. I think iglesias has to play Sunday. Winker has to play. Just brings an edge to this team. Marte is such a pro at the plate. Warm weather in Los Angeles. Hopefully the Mets bats stay warm. Ya gotta believe.

    And quit all the bitching about the Knicks. It’s the pre season. Come out healthy. Need time to gel. If the Mets have proven anything this season. It’s not how you start it’s how you finish. Knicks will be right there if they stay healthy and continue to play defense and expand their modern offense with the weapons they have.

    Wow Knickerblogger in full panic mode and our record is currently 0-0.

    I’d say it’s time to blow it up and tank but I like Kolek, Huk, and Dadiet. The starters can all go. 😜😜😜

    The Yankees won 94 game. Cleveland won 92. There is very little difference between them

    My argument was that 3-0 was not likely to be overcome. Same would be true the other way; this Yankees team would have their lunch eaten by the dynasty teams.

    There’s very little between ANY of these teams. Without the Astros in the way, I still like the Yankees chances, even if they are very good at challenging my confidence.

    Knicks are gonna be great.

    and, you can do worse than having tj warren sitting on the bench in case of injury or needed rest…

    who knows when it might happen, but i’m curious to see how kolek’s able to control the flow of the game during crunch time, i like that he’s able to get his own shot when he wants…maybe not his first instinct, but he can do it…

    Quick note to Rizzo, Volpe, Chisholm, Stanton:

    Stop taking borderline pitches with two strikes.
    If you have to go down, go down swinging, not with the bat on your shoulder…

    Only thing I like about this game is Thibs closing with Kolek, who’s earning his trust with big shots here at the end.

    Dadiet will be a player, but he can’t stay in front of his man.

    i was kind of ready to ship dadiet off to westchester after summer league, not so fast, eh…

    we did really well replenishing our youth this off-season…really well…

    Edit: oh well, at least the yanks won’t let me down…please please please win…

    I’d stay with McNeil. He needs to get his timing. Hey, he had two sac flies today early on, so he did help.

    Sluggish game by the Knicks, but the real deal starts soon.

    If Bridges and Towns feel compelled to combine for 0-15 from three in a game, better do it in the preseason…

    Kolek will play, defense at the PG position isn’t that valuable to many teams. If so Frank, Pat Bev and Markelle Fultz would still be in the NBA.

    I don’t think I’m going to be thrilled with Towns. He had a good line tonight but he let some Wizards score on him inside some times. His threes aren’t falling either. I hope that’s just because he’s learning a new offense now and he’ll relax a little later when things are more automatic for him

    but he let some Wizards score on him inside some times.

    Towns will never be a defensive stopper. Many teams are going to attack the rim.

    The zero strikeouts by the Mets hitters was nuts. First time in 22 years in the playoffs.

    Stanton on an absolutely terrible contract for a guy who can’t run and misses 50 games a year but then he turns into babe ruth in the playoffs is pretty incredible

    Can’t run?? Guy even stole a base this postseason!

    Boone putting Holmes in, up 4, vs the guy who won the game against him yesterday, with two on… ballsy!

    In the last two games Rizzo has done the same number of plays at first that I did: zero.

    Every ball in sent in his direction is an automatic hit.

    Rizzo normally makes these plays. It’s got to feel like a nightmare for him, every ball just out of reach.

    Can’t DH him because Stanton is even more of a statue.

    Marcus stroman lowkey should have been in the game. Because you have no guys in the pen cash man

    Rizzo is injured. Should play oswaldo

    Exactly, that’s why we love Boone.

    And why carry Stroman on the roster if you continue to suicide with Holmes?

    Wells has saved about 20 wild pitches this postseason

    Credit where it’s due… I trust Wells a lot behind the plate. Homer earlier was a nice response to getting bumped down as well.

    I think Luke Weaver may have a hard time getting 3 outs tonight. I hope Boone isn’t stupid enough to ask him for more.

    Leiter is going to have to be Houdini to get 3 outs with his stuff. This is what happens when you ask the bullpen to get 15 outs three games in a row…

    This game has Boone and Cashman all over it

    Stroman on the team..just let Clay sit and shit the bed

    Little League play for a Little League manager…
    Rizzo is injured, take him out you idiot!

    Boone, Rizzo, Jazz, this bullpen… Brian Cashman’s utter failure is on full display tonight.

    Seppuku, Brian. Seppuku.

    The biggest Boone mistake was not letting Gil go another inning when he was looking like he found the groove

    Jazz was decent when he came over, but he’s playing out of position. He’s been dogshxt. In these playoffs, but has swag..

    The biggest Boone mistake was not letting Gil go another inning when he was looking like he found the groove

    That still wouldn’t have stopped Holmes and the rest of bums from messing up

    When you get Soto and your all in , you should go out and upgrade the pen at the deadline. Cashman penny pinxhes..

    Definitely Luke.

    Unless Judge cracks one here.

    EDIT: never mind, here comes another Jazz whiff

    The Guardians’ success all year was built around their bullpen and their mistake-free defense. That has really not held up against the Yankees. The Guardians are the less talented team to begin with, and they have played like they have the yips for almost the entire series.

    Jazz has been awful on both sides. I don’t want to lose Torres and have Jazz be his replacement

    Re-sign Pleyber. Rizzo is not a 2024 MLBer. Heartbreaking Liberty loss. Catch me at Barclays Sunday.

    Bad balls and strikes calls in the playoffs drive me insane. I’m rooting for the Yankees to win this game because they’re the far more interesting team, but I’m also rooting for entertainment and that bad call made this game less entertaining.

    I’m ready for the robo umps.

    Agree Hubert, Cashman’s expiring date has passed years ago…
    And he can carry his beloved manager with him.

    I like all the critique of bullpen overuse. I miss the days when starters went 6, even 7 innings sometimes!

    After the Yankees win the World Series Cashman should log into this site and just type out the middle finger emojis.

    Nothing like listening to Yankees fans incessantly whining about a team, its manager, its GM and its ownership during a season where they had the best record in the AL and are cruising to their 41st world series appearance on the way to competing for their 28th championship.

    And I thought Celtics fans were intolerable…

    If they win the world series he can gracefully retire instead of disemboweling himself.

    As much as it is fun to dump on Holmes, he was pitching great in the playoffs until they asked him to pitch 3 out of his last four days yesterday and was on fumes pitching four of the last five days tonight.

    Seeing a lot of chatter about Bridges changing his shot. He’s about 2-for-50 from 3 for the preseason. Get ready for Landry Fields’ sophomore year all over again.

    Z-Man, as a lifelong Yankees fan, I agree, Yankees fans are insufferable.

    Your Mets are way more fun and likable at the moment. I really don’t want another subway series… Even in 2000 I had a hard time rooting against the Mets.

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