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So the Spurs waived Charles Bassey, should we have any interest? Seems like a slightly better, younger version of Sims…crazy per 36 rebounds, blocks, and steals numbers in a tiny sample, can make a FT and occasional 3.
So the Spurs waived Charles Bassey, should we have any interest?
if you’re already shopping in the paul reed and nic richards section of walden books, it definitely makes sense to leaf through a marked down charles bassey. he’s had some injury issues.
Bassey seems worth a shot at this point, makes Mitch look like Cal Ripken Jr though
Sure, why not, if we get enough injury prone centers we should have at least someone healthy most of the time
If Kevin Durant (#2 in 2007), Al Horford (#3), Mike Conley (#4) and Jeff Green (#5) are still playing, Greg Oden should too.
I’ll give him a try…
The Clarence and Doogie show exhibited solid comic potential yesterday. I encourage you to continue submitting your materials.
I have to wait for him to say something else nonsensical before I can help, darules. The ball is in his court, so to speak.
Don’t gender me, Doogie. And worse yet, how dare you third person me. I’m in the fucking room. Have some manners.
I didn’t “gender” you, whatever that means (“gender” is a noun, not a verb). “Third person” is also not a verb. “Clarence” is a male name (that you use), and the character with that name was also male. I’m just going by that.
How would I know whether you’re in the room or not? Even if there is a way to see who is online at any given time, I’m not going to peruse all of that to see who is here and who isn’t. LOL
Troglodyte
I’m sure this project would’ve gotten Tony Randall and Jack Klugman’s blessing.
Dougie’s response is tounge-in-check, right?
Lot of IFs here. Can we extend Randle then trade him? I ask because I think the only way KAT makes sense is if we keep Mitch (and the rest of the top guys).
IFs make it kind of a pointless question since would require: 1) Randle likes idea of playing in Minny, (kids in school here, probably can stop there. But maybe he thinks is PT will be lower here risking his next payday), 2) MIN wants to give him an extension that satisfies them and him, 3) they think he’s a better fit right now than KAT and at the new, higher contract could have a value delta bridgeable by picks (and rooks/Duece if we can do this and extend Brunson), 4) we can extend Brunson first, and 5) we are ready to ride or die w this squad at the second apron
You write about farting and pissing in various locations, and *I’m* the troglodyte?!? 🙂
I’m glad that you didn’t write “Tony Randle,” ess-dog.
“Dougie’s response is tounge-in-check, right?”
Definitely not. It may or may not be tongue-in-cheek, but it’s certainly nothing like what you wrote. LOL
maybe tounge-in-check is tounge-in-check
Yes, Doogie. Bless your heart. I don’t envy your condition as I don’t envy the lantern fly.
“maybe tounge-in-check is tounge-in-check”
If so, then it’s still wrong. I don’t have any maladies other than needing reading glasses, and I have no feelings whatsoever re: lantern flies.
You’re blessed.
Lot of IFs here. Can we extend Randle then trade him? I ask because I think the only way KAT makes sense is if we keep Mitch (and the rest of the top guys).
we would have to wait six months after extending unless the extension was only 2 years and the raise was under 5% from his previous deal.
“You’re blessed.”
Indeed, I am. I truly am.
Whew!
btw if you signed randle to the max 140% extension and waited six months you don’t suddenly count his salary as the future number as the outgoing if that’s what you’re getting at
https://nypost.com/2024/07/10/sports/2021-pick-rokas-jokubaitis-joining-knicks-summer-league-roster/
Hey, we have some actual news! Rokas is definitely going to be on the summer league roster, per multiple sources.
I can’t speak for Randle, and I wasn’t crazy about living there mostly because of the weather but some people think suburban Minneapolis is a great place to live.
There are fantastic prep schools where the enrollment is quite diverse, the student to teacher ration is 8:1 and the facilities are world class. My son went to a prep school called Breck (https://www.breckschool.org/) where he played hockey on a line with Blake Wheeler. He went on to one of the most liberal colleges in America (Middleburry) and became a neurosurgeon, so the academics are top rate. The BB team won the state prep championship this past season, so it is top flight, too. The 40k tuition is tip money for Randle, so…. if he had any inkling of being traded to Minneapolis, schooling for his kids wouldn’t be an issue.
The teacher ration is 8 biscuits for each sip of juice? For sure, that’s pretty good! I have no idea who Blake Wheeler is, though.
I (almost) can’t believe that we’re so into the Towns-for-Randle narrative at this point that we’re breaking down the Minneapolis school system for Randle’s kid(s).
Randle is recently on record–perhaps “tongue-in-check” (sic) that he dislikes the cold New York winters.
We really are in the dog days of summer when a random rumour about KAT makes the rounds all over the Knicks twittersphere.
KAT doesn’t make much sense for the Knicks, Randle doesn’t make much sense for the Wolves, and trading Randle and Mitch for KAT will make the Knicks worse!
A pretty good hockey player, who had a cup of coffee with the Rangers this season on his way to retirement who scored 321 goals and 943 points in his NHL career.
It is in fact common parlance to use “gender” as a verb i.e. to identify someone’s gender identity, often in a presumptive manner with insufficient information.
CP is a cool dude and good podcast host, but to my knowledge this would be the first time he ever was first on something from a sourcing perspective. I’m assuming he was being more speculative than than anything else.
That said, I do think a Randle-for-KAT swap would make us better. I find a lot of the concerns about Randle’s fit with the current team overblown–we absolutely need a non-Brunson shot creator at the 4 due to the team’s current construction. So if we trade Randle, we damn well better be bringing back a 4 who is as good or better as an offensive hub.
Well, for all of his faults, that’s KAT. He’d open up all kinds of lineup flexibility for us and would mercifully put an end to the great Knickerblogger “can the Knicks play five-out” debate of 2024.
But I can’t bring myself to do a true deep dive on either his fit with the team or the mechanics of bringing him in until there’s more smoke. I’d feel comfortable betting on the opening night roster being the current team + a center we’re surprisingly happy to have.
+1
“Randle is recently on record–perhaps “tongue-in-check” (sic) that he dislikes the cold New York winters.”
It was actually worse than that. It was written as “tounge-in-check.”
We’re deciding a lot of stuff for Julius, aren’t we?
“It is in fact common parlance to use “gender” as a verb i.e. to identify someone’s gender identity, often in a presumptive manner with insufficient information.”
A lot of things are used “commonly” but are still incorrect. For example, I hear “foilage” instead of “foliage” more than one would expect from very intelligent people.
I buy KAT at the 4 being better than Randle for the offense (though he’s definitely not as good as a ‘shot creator’ and his passing out of drives is downright atrocious). But I think the main issue is that you can’t get KAT-for-Randle to work until and unless Randle’s extension kicks in, so you’d have to aggregate salaries – Mitch, or I suppose Hart or DDV? In any case, I don’t see a scenario in which Randle + Mitch/Hart/DDV > KAT + whatever C they can get on the cheap.
“It is in fact common parlance to use “gender” as a verb i.e. to identify someone’s gender identity, often in a presumptive manner with insufficient information.”
But it wasn’t really all that presumptive. Clarence himself said that he could be identified at Apollo Bagel the other day as a “Big gay Jew wearing a blingy Knicks hat.” That definitely evokes “male.”
Maybe slightly presumptive, but not all that much. Women don’t usually describe themselves as “big gay Jews.”
School Marm it is. Pussywillow, Doogie. Pussywillow. Pussywillow.
KAT would be an all time tragedy for our beloved Knicks.
It’s actually a niche and tribal idea. For example, a newborn isn’t really “gendered,” and no special expertise or deliberation is required to determine whether it’s male or female. There’s certainly no real “assignment” of “gender” there, as it requires no deliberation — merely observation.
There’s also serious question regarding whether the idea of “gender” even has sufficient rigor to be considered truly a serious thing. Certainly, we should all be polite and refer to a male who identifies as a woman as “a woman,” but the collateral results of that — sports participation, cleavage to empirical reality, etc. — are very much open to serious debate.
In terms of sports, around mid-season when it was clear that Blake had lost two steps from his peak — when he was awesome — denizens of a popular Rangers board denominated him “Blake Wheelchair,” which was sublimely excellent and chuckle-inducing. Would have been awesome to have had him on the team when he was really, really good which in his prime he was.
“School Marm it is. Pussywillow, Doogie. Pussywillow. Pussywillow.”
That meant literally nothing. Possibly less than nothing. Pussywillows and school marms? Huh?
Pussywillow.
You can repeat it a million times and it still won’t mean anything. 🙂
Ok gurl.
The couldn’t possibly be a human of the XX karyotype fitting that description in the East Village. 🙂
I’m glad he’s coming over, but he may find out he’s not even the best PG on our summer league team.
Of all the iterations of Knickerblogger, Semanticsblogger sucks the hardest.
If we can discuss gender on this blog, I’m going to renege on my promise to avoid discussing the absurdity of the totally avoidable Ukraine war and all the associated death and destruction.
“Ok gurl.”
That’s not how to spell “girl.” And I’m a male. Don’t misgender me. LOL
Good luck trying to get Sengun.
I’d really rather not discuss gender at all. I just want the Knicks to get their roster straight by signing a big, whether it be Precious or by acquiring someone else. What’s the hold-up?
Puszywillow.
Still doesn’t mean anything with zero context, and now you’re even spelling it incorrectly on purpose. 🙂
I don’t acknowledge as proper English any word not appearing in Beowulf. The rest is the bastardization of formal language improperly referred to as the common parlance.
Julius Caesar wasn’t “gendered.” (*) Cleopatra wasn’t “gendered.” Etc.
(*) Either before or after he crossed the Rubicon.
Correcting syntax that is commonly understood but not (yet) in the dictionary is faux-sophistication at its worst. The corrector comes off as much less intelligent than the original commenter, who is presumably aware that language is in a constant state of evolution.
Definitely?! I regularly see Breanna Stewart walking around my neighborhood with her wife. She’s 6’4″. If she puts on a blingy Knicks hat, she’s a big gay gentile (I think) wearing a blingy Knicks hat. Please don’t badly misuse the word “definitely” like this!
I can use the word “definitely.” It’s why I used the word “evoke” along with it. And I wasn’t posting about what someone actually *is*, like Breanna Stewart. I was posting about the ways that one would likely *refer* to oneself. I doubt that Ms. Stewart would refer to herself as a big gay gentile, even if she is indeed exactly that.
I’m not sophisticated at all, either faux or otherwise. I simply know how to write in English.
In that hypothetical case, she’d be a big lesbian gentile (I also think) wearing a blingy Knicks hat, so not exactly, no.
Doggie, this is the context. You are your own context. It’s a message board with a bunch of fucking strangers who rarely have any genuine connection let alone common language or common culture. I honestly don’t give a shit about my gender whatever it may be… I do think you’re cute though and sometimes just rude. If you’re engaging my poor grammar or spelling or your own inability to see my poorly crafted writing or metaphors or if the subtext or my lack of skill in communicating is causing you to speak up then you should know I don’t give two shits how smart you are or well learned or correct. I didn’t go to college and I barely made it through high school. I’m good with being taught useless shit. Other people here may appreciate your tutelage it’s gonna trigger me.
“I honestly don’t give a shit about my gender whatever it may be…”
That makes two of us.
I’m getting antsy waiting to see if Leon is going to make a serious trade or punt anything serious until the trade deadline and just sign back Precious.
Actually, when you think about it, it makes like 99% of humanity.
Pronouns are by and large kind of silly other than in a very small number of contexts, but that aside, I won’t affix them to things like Zoom for the simple fact that if you’re too dense to see that I’m a male, I don’t really care to associate with you.
Please, no, Strat… for the love of God, don’t 🙂
Gender is a dumb concept. The world should be stricken for causing unnecessary chaos.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay
Nah
Yeah, “gay” and “lesbian” are different terms with different meanings as anyone sophisticated or even marginally intelligent knows.
LGBTQ, e.g., not GBTQ.
“I’m getting antsy waiting to see if Leon is going to make a serious trade or punt anything serious until the trade deadline and just sign back Precious.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(Bad grammar alert:) This. So much this.
As the literal Merriam-Webster definition shows, “gay” has come to be understood as the broad term for same-sex attraction.
This doesn’t even require one to adopt colloquial usage, it is the dictionary definition.
Will be interesting to see how Kolek & Rokas play off each other. The Knicks almost certainly favor Kolek as the lead guard but how they split duties when they share the court should be interesting, is it 100% Kolek or closer to 50/50?
Precision in linguistic deployment is usually preferable to breadth.
It’s not that she isn’t “gay,” it’s that “gay” wouldn’t be the first-order descriptive term used in that situation to describe her. “Lesbian” would be.
Contrary to what you argued — for who knows what reason — “gay” in common parlance would in fact imply more likely than not, “male.” It *could* be used to describe “not male,” but more likely than not, it wouldn’t be.
“Will be interesting to see how Kolek & Rokas play off each other. The Knicks almost certainly favor Kolek as the lead guard but how they split duties when they share the court should be interesting, is it 100% Kolek or closer to 50/50?”
Maybe they won’t share the court at all.
“Contrary to what you argued — for who knows what reason — “gay” in common parlance would in fact imply more likely than not, “male.”
Totally agree. That’s pretty much the same point that I was making, and I’m glad to see that another reasonable person agrees.
So contrary to what you argued, based on what you just said, one could absolutely, positively, not “definitely” know someone identified as male due to them self-identifying as “gay.” Glad you’ve finally conceded an obviously wrong point for the first time! Maybe you can say “woof, Cam Reddish actually sucks” and really get on a roll.
Yeah, you misread what was said. What was said wasn’t “definitely is male,” but instead “definitely evokes male,” which is an entirely apt and correct analysis.
Agreed, with the caveat that there might be center options out there we’re not seeing that could change the calculus. It could be that this is just on Leon and co.’s radar for after the extension kicks in, because gutting the team for a Randle-to-KAT upgrade strikes me as a pretty easy pass.
“Yeah, you misread what was said. What was said wasn’t “definitely is male,” but instead “definitely evokes male,” which is an entirely apt and correct analysis.”
Again, my point exactly.
“Frank Ntilikina would’ve shined if only Tom Thibodeau gave him his shot” ass argument. I’ll drop this for everyone else’s sake. As a general matter, do not be an insufferable pedant on Knickerblogger.
I’m not a particularly good writer. It’s my weakest attribute. I’m better at other things. When I take my time, proofread and put some thought into it, I’m way better now than when I was young. But I don’t do much of that.
Actually Lesbians are gay women. Sometimes men.
Possible, but I expect their 5 draft picks to get a lot of run and that means Kolek & Rokas play together.
Kolek/Rokas/McCullar/Dadiet/Hukporti
Perhaps Dadiet lines up at the 3 instead and we don’t see that lineup.
I’m also interested to see how much run Toppin gets, he could slot in at PF.
There’s no way they are going to gut the team to bring KAT here with Randle being the primary asset out, but it would involve at least one other player, possibly a 3rd team, and some other tweaks.
Don’t overestimate KAT’s trade value. He’s not viewed around the league the same way he was early in his career.
However, if he’s your C, you have really good perimeter defenders to make his lack of rim protection less of an issue and can play 5 out like we could, you are going to be a force to be reckoned with despite his warts.
Based on Rokas and Kolek’s respective pedigrees, one of them technically coming off the bench for a summer league team would feel wrong. I hope we just start them both, mostly for the sake of our entertainment, but also because we should be collecting as much data as we can on the summer league guys that might actually be something for us.
My guess is the starting lineup is Kolek-someone we’ve never heard of-McCullar-Toppin-Hukporti though.
Noble, I can’t imagine a circumstance where we don’t start a healthy Dadiet and play him as much as possible.
If someone doesn’t know the difference in meanings between “gay” and “lesbian” or “is” and “evokes,” it’s probably too much to expect them to know what “pedant” means, either.
In terms of advice, it isn’t written in the cosmos that you absolutely *had* to contra virtue signal Doogie. It truly isn’t. It’s has to be a resistible impulse, no?
“Actually Lesbians are gay women. Sometimes men.”
That’s abjectly false. Men are never, ever lesbians, by definition.
“In terms of advice, it isn’t written in the cosmos that you absolutely *had* to contra virtue signal Doogie. It truly isn’t. It’s has to be a resistible impulse, no?”
Sure. Depends how busy I am on a given day, and what else is going on. 🙂
Of course the worst people on this blog are ruining it again today.
Summer league reveals who is not NBA ready, not much about who is. Assume the Kolek signing $$$ means we think he is. So it should all be about Rokas. Really hope he auditions well…
E lecturing someone else on resistible impulses might be the most absurd moment in this largely absurd thread (and I’m including the KAT trade discussion in there, too…).
Performative political virtue signaling tends to ruin threads. It’s even worse when it’s done in a schoolmarm-y “corrective” way, thinking that other people are making “faulty assumptions” about some niche thing or another.
And then it’s even worse than that when the signaler can’t even read things correctly. And then it’s even worse than that when someone else points out that the signaler didn’t even read the thing correctly that he’s inveighing about and then the signaler huffs and puffs about even that.
This did not have to happen.
I didn’t see it as a lecture at all. I viewed it as friendly advice.
Alan’s right, so maybe it’s Kolek-McCullar-Dadiet-Toppin-Huk? Could make for some fun, but I hope we see the EB death lineup a lot.
Huk seems like the kind of guy who could have a big summer league showing. On the older side, high motor, physically imposing.
I’m reasonably high on Dadiet, but he seems like a 3-for-15 candidate.
Most players are candidates for 3-for-15 shooting nights, Daniel Gafford and Rudy Gobert types notwithstanding.
Bullies tend to see all pushback against them as itself bullying.
Never thought I’d be on a Knickerblogger thread hoping for more Z-Man and Hubert content, yet here we are.
I’m calling it now: the Kolek-Hukporti connection will be magical.
Describes McCullar too… if we ever sign him.
Lots of experience for our rooks, save Dadiet, should make for a pretty good showing despite fielding zero drafted sophomores and no lotto picks.
I share your enthusiasm Ess-Dog!
“Of course the worst people on this blog are ruining it again today.”
Imagining what this blog would be like if Rokas, Kolek, Dadiet, and Huk have stellar Summer leagues. Hope it all happens as the permutations for the best roster construction and minutes distribution will be endless. And no time for the current drivel to fill the void (whatever happened to movies and music??) .
I remain fascinated by the idea of Dadiet, just because he’s so outside the norm of the kind of players we’ve drafted, other than perhaps Trevor Keels. (And if you look at the players taken after Keels, it’s not like we passed over a sure thing.) So either someone in the scouting department — like, say, a former Utah Jazz employee who recognized future All-NBA talent in overlooked guys like Spida and Rudy — saw something in Dadiet’s tape that the rest of the league didn’t, and was able to passionately argue that case for Leon, or else the FO has intel that some other team loved Dadiet, and he’s earmarked for our next big trade, since we’re so limited in terms of picks to attach.
Has anyone seen Kevin Costner’s “Horizon”?
No “Good omens” fans on Knickerblogger?
Ok did almost all of us just pass over Berman implying that there’s a non-zero probability of us acquiring Alperen Sengun so we could figure out everyone’s views on pronouns?
It’s so weird. He can’t pass, he can’t rebound, he can’t defend. The only thing he does is score, and most of that is off the ball.
Keels was largely the inverse statistically, couldn’t shoot to save his life in college but put up strong peripherals for an 18yo. Keels is short and squat, Dadiet tall and lanky. Other than age, Keels at least fit the FO mold.
If you want, I’ll change the discussion to Frank and Phil. 😉
“…the Kolek-Hukporti connection…”
Clyde, if you are in the room, or read this blog, I suggest you start practicing “Kolek to Hukporti” right now. It does not easily roll off the tongue.
The Sengun thing just feels like trolling by Berman Formerly of the Post. But for argument’s sake… Randle for Sengun and Adams works in the trade machine.
Thoughts?
right…wtf?
i look forward to seeing Kolek…i get the feeling he is either going to suck at the pro level or exceed expectations…if he exceeds…our 2nd unit will fuck up most other teams 2nd unit…
There are few things in my life I’ve ever wanted more than to experience a full game of Clyde Frazier trying to say Ariel Hukporti’s name.
I’ll be very surprised if the Rockets get rid of Sengun (but hey, good for the Knicks).
And would they send us their starting and (recently acquired) backup centers for a player who plays the same position of one of their young stars (Jabari Smith)?
Yup. So either Perrin and his guys are recognizing something that’s not obvious from the stats or the game tape, or… I don’t know what the alternative is. It’s very strange.
Personally, I don’t think Randle will be traded now, but it could be more likely to happen at the trade deadline.
I think Leon is going to want to see what the current team looks like with Mitch, Randle, OG, Mikal and Brunson and pay special attention to how much of the offense Mikal can handle efficiently when Randle is out.
Depending on how that all looks, he’ll decide what to do at the deadline.
For now though, I think he knows going into the season with just Mitch is too risky. He wants to trade for a C, but a weak backup is not the answer when your starter might miss extended time like he has in the past.
We didn’t get to see Dadiet’s three on three workout.
Kawhi out of the Olympics. Derrick White replaces him and the Post suggesting he just edged out Brunson. Thank God, as we need a healthy Brunson and his hand opening day.
I don’t want any Knicks on any exhibition teams of any sort.
TOO SOON, CLARENCE
(More seriously, the only annoying part of yesterday’s Mikal presser is that he mentioned that he expected to be drafted by us that year. I later asked one of the beat writers if anyone brought up the infamous 3-on-3 scrimmage, and he replied, “Deep cut!” I told him that to those of us who lived through that draft, that scrimmage is always lurking just below the surface.)
All I remember about Keels is he was unusually fat for a high level basketball guard
I’m a no on Sengun.
Why would the Rockets trade us Sengun for Randle? Are they that desperate to dump Steven Adams?
Huckabee?
huckleberry
Precious is not good at precision so he definitely needs proper gendering [brought to you by your friendly AI summary bot]
I am *not* a Randle hater—he’s a really, really good player. But:
I’m all in for acquiring either Sengun or Towns (Sengun, much more so), if all we’re giving up is Randle/picks or Randle/Mitch/picks. Power forward is a position of need, but we can re-sign Precious and develop him for that position without losing anyone. Center is much more of a position of need for us right now, and Sengun/Towns would very much solidify us there with Hukporti off the bench.
We also did just fine without Julius in last season’s stretch run. Lastly, much like Quickley, we’re not going to want to pay him what he wants when his turn comes up.
Someone, I think it was Jeremy Cohen, was saying that Randle on his expected extension (something like 45 mil AAV) is actually a fine deal because you can still use his salary for a star trade plus it won’t look terrible once the cap goes up.
Obviously you consider moving him for an upgrade before that, but that upgrade really doesn’t seem to be out there now.
The reason Hubert isn’t here today is because he has locked himself in a closet without a phone, repeating his mantra I will not gang up on annoying posters, I will not gang up on annoying posters, I will not gang up on annoying posters…
“Hey, Sailor — looking for a good time?”
“You mean you’ll join me in hectoring people for not knowing what misgendering is?!?”
Yeah, that’s the height of mirth and good cheer right there.
Make it so!
And I’m crazy but I still want Precious to succeed here. I have a vague memory of him having a teeny tiny stretch of effective ball last year and sharing some mutual appreciation with OG in postgame pressers. Chemistry? More?
PS — England v Netherlands? Picks? I want the Brits to win. Crooked teeth and all.
And in just that minute …
“And in just that minute …”
I have no idea if that was anything I care about or not.
I keep forgetting that we have KBD on the roster now. We don’t need Randle. 🙂
i’d like to see the dutch get in there…seems like its been awhile for them…
wow…nice save there…
I actually find threads like this to be delightfully quirky, Donnie. “Don’t gender me, Doogie!” was a cracker.
England is the Boston of Europe. I rarely want them to win.
But I’m still scarred from the cynical Spain-Netherlands WC final ten years ago. No interest in a repeat.
that was your dad’s dutch squad…this is a new era…
Im looking forward to “Ariel goes aerial!!”
Maybe it’s a WWW pick and he’s gonna suck
I doubt that Hukporti is going to “go aerial.” At 7 feet and 255 pounds, he’s a pretty big dude.
you nailed my wish for the pre-season ess-dog:
Haha. Yeah, I guess I like England winning this time since (I think) their only championship was WC 1966 (!) and they have never won a European Cup. I also enjoyed that they broke their longtime streak of “always” losing on penalties in the last game.
The Dutch won Euros in 1988 according to Wiki. I’m no expert, but I did also see their ugly match you mentioned v Spain in WC and was def smh.
Speaking of Spain, that 16 year old kid is/was amazing the other night. His strike was so pure. I’ve been hassling my 13 yr old that he is definitely slacking by comparison 😉
Anyway, back to chasing tall unbreakable basketball centers. Cheers.
“Hook-potty”
Why would Wes be heavily invested in the team drafting an 18-year-old French kid?
Look, my expectations for the 25th pick in a weak draft are in no way high. Every scouting report suggests he has significant flaws. But I’m fascinated that our team in particular took him at all, as opposed to a bunch of prospects with a much higher probability of being useful In Case of Rotation Emergency, Break Glass players in this upcoming season. Something’s up.
One of the best teams i’ve seen… Koeman (now their coach), Rijkaard, Gullit, Van Basten! And Van Basten’s goal in the final is certainly one of the best in the euros ever!
I don’t want to think about trading Randle this season, now i want to see how far this team can go. Leon will find a capable C to be Mitch’s backup… or insurance. 😉
reference the players at the top of our roster:
I think 2 questions have to be answered first…
– how does the player fit with jalen?
– how does the player fit with thibs?
it seems julius and thibs are of a similar mindset – grind to win, and stay after the refs nonstop during the game…
i think milo may have shared it previously – but, without looking at their on/off synergy numbers, they seem to compliment one another…
I’m back to being like mulder, and wanting to believe, my expectations are high for this season…
with julius
OMG Cyber! Thanks for this walk on memory lane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kzVIdD1Po
I’m just being a pessimist, I’m on your side. But we’re still the Knicks.
Only thing I can really think of is that they wanted a player on a longer timeline because the rotation is full for the foreseeable future. Still, they usually just punt those picks.
His jumpshot is a joy, so I’m hoping you’re right and he’s pulling a star out of a hat.
looks like that goalie had the same vertical hops as roy hibbert
Ciao, Max. Loving Milan very much and now full of Negroni and panzerotti thanks to you and Farfa. Gracie mille.
Thx, Cyber for the link. Amazing.
If they wanted the longer timeline, they wouldn’t have agreed to bring him over this season. It’s… yeah, I don’t know. Just odd.
Ciao KBA! Well done my friend! 😀
I wonder if we thought he was a draft-and-stash and then he switched up on everyone.
That would have come out in the reporting somewhere, Hubert, and they certainly wouldn’t have been so quick to sign him. They do get a very modest cap savings this upcoming season because they’re paying him less in salary while applying the difference to the buyout from his Euro team, but even that doesn’t seem like it would be worth the bother.
Great! You rock, my man!
Dadiet seems like the inverse of the “if he could learn to shoot” type prospect we’re so familiar with. Maybe it’s easier to take a guy who can shoot and teach him to pass and defend than vice versa.
hahaha Jaylen Brown is furious he’s not going to the olympics
“Maybe it’s easier to take a guy who can shoot and teach him to pass and defend than vice versa.”
Damyean Dotson and Allonzo Trier and hell even Cam Reddish are here to argue the alternative.
If you take Pacome’s dRB% and compare it to NCAA freshman wing forwards, he would have been like 15th or so in the country. Which is not good, but not terrible. I don’t know how exactly the german league he’s in would stack up to the NCAA, though, so make of that what you will.
Dadiet is going to be the 3rd string 6th man off the bench.
We’ve become spoiled with players like Quickley and DDV that can do more than score coming off the bench. Those guys are starters on a lot of teams.
He’s so darn young, let’s give him time to see if he can do more.
I think injuries, personality issues, lack of dedication and off the court issues derail the progress of some young players.
Young players should get a little better over time unless something else is going on.
I admit I want Hukporti to stick as much for his name as for our need for a (backup) center
Alan might have the right of it. Dadiet is an unknown quantity with 1st round pick next to his name. Management has done pretty well with these late 1st early 2nds and now they also have his narrative. Whether someone had interest or they think they can manufacture that interest he’s valuable to a team that’s girding its coins. Maybe he can actually play. There are some dumb not Leon Roses out there.
As for rumors, no way we make a deal for KAT, and I can’t see why the Rockets would want to get off Sengun, who’s shown playmaker chops a la iHart. Just to get rid of Adams’ contract? Seems unlikely. Guessing the silence is really just about Markannen.
There is no doubt that in 25 years, Pacome Dadiet’s jersey will be hanging from the MSG rafters.
Seriously, it is not as simple as “He can do this but he can’t do that.” The kid is 6’8″ and reasonably long, athletic, and physically developed. He will be just fine in the other aspects of the game once he grows up. He’s already physically holding his own against much older pros in a decent Euro league. The defense and rebounding will come with coaching and practice. Most importantly, he can shoot from all three levels and can create his own shot.
The Knicks scouts are clearly very high on him, similar to the way they were high on Grimes and IQ when there were lots of doubters about one aspect of their games or another. I think they’ve been very good when they’ve taken swings, enough to buy some grace with me.
Weird, thought it was worse.
He does have an 8′ 11.5″ standing reach. That’s half an inch more than Filipowski and Risacher.
He’s also got 20lbs on Risacher and is only 13lbs lighter than Flip despite being almost 2 years younger.
The physical tools are definitely there for Dadiet.
I don’t see any way possible that we have the assets to trade for KAT so I’m not going to dignify the rumors with an opinion. Similar but less so about Sengun (don’t like!) and Duren (really like!)
I think the FO will wait to see who else shakes loose. For now, I’m just going to assume that we will run with Precious, Sims. If a trade for someone better happens, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
I don’t think the Rockets want to get out from Adams contract. They specifically traded for him even though he was out for the season. They want him.
The reason I could see them trading Sengun is because they know he is going to get paid next summer and they don’t want to deal with that plus they might want more of a defensive center rotation. If they traded him to us my guess is it would be for Mitch or maybe for Precious and whatever picks and swaps we have left to give them.
I doubt they want Randle or want to get out from under Adams contract. Especially because Adams is expiring.
“He does have an 8′ 11.5″ standing reach. That’s half an inch more than Filipowski and Risacher.
He’s also got 20lbs on Risacher and is only 13lbs lighter than Flip despite being almost 2 years younger.”
Risacher has potential bust written all over him:
-He had a 31″ max vertical at the combine…that’s like a foot below the elite athletes. This is going to make finishing at the rim a problem
-He hasn’t demonstrated that he can shoot
-He has a high dribble
-He has a negative assist/turnover ratio
Honestly, he seems like a guy who should never have been picked in the lottery, let alone #1. Obviously he has a very high ceiling, but just the vertical and shooting alone suggest a floor way below what it should be for the first pick in the entire draft.
I don’t know what Dadiet will become, but at #25, I can live with a bust. At #1? Different story.
I would love Sengun, I think he is a very good player who has more to unlock. Duran would also be great but he is more of a project.
KAT would be even better but unless Minnesota really wants Randle I don’t see anyway it makes sense for them. But KAT as our starting 5 with OG and Bridges making sure his lack of defense doesn’t hurt us too much would be perfect. Offensively we’d be very good.
If KAT came to the Knicks Jimmy Butler would engineer a season where he single handedly eliminates them from the playoffs. It’s one thing to have a defensively soft center it’s another thing to have a soft center.
I don’t see the logic in trading for Sengun, a guy who doesn’t shoot threes or protect the rim and can only play one position. I get that he’s a wizard in the post and can pass a little bit, but he’s just not my kind of C…and I’d be shocked if he’s Thibs kind, unless he sees ways to coach him up. This team is going to have a defensive identity, and Brunson is already a minus defender, so we need that rim protection unless Thibs goes small, and Sengun is not suited for small-ball at all.
I am not getting emotionally invested in our best trade chip.
If we’re indeed going to just re-sign Precious, maybe we ought to think about doing so before someone else grabs the cromulent, young, back-up PF/C on a good contract.
Most or all of the public draft analyses available on the web do rely on game tape and box scores. But the Knicks have European based scouts who go to games, talk to coaches and so on.. Occam’s razor suggests the Knicks actually think he is good, not that they wanted a player on a longer timeline or to subtract the transfer fee from their salary going into the cap. And since they have more information about him than most or all, they could be right.
I’d like to see the Knicks fill the open spot with a healthy Timelord. Best mix of price, skill, and fit. Not really feeling Kessler or the other real alternatives. If Duren is truly on the table, he jumps to the top of my list. I’m assuming he isn’t.
I listened to some predraft podcasts a couple days ago and Dadiet seemed to be getting some buzz. Like even a couple of Bill Simmons guys were talking him up.
“Healthy Timelord” is a lot like “Mentally Sound Biden” or “Sane Kanye” or “Not Dead Elvis.” Something that may have existed at one time but is probably not returning anytime real soon.
““Healthy Timelord” is a lot like “Mentally Sound Biden” or “Sane Kanye” or “Not Dead Elvis.” Something that may have existed at one time but is probably not returning anytime real soon.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Same thought here.
Berhalter is out as USMNT coach.
Timelord unfortunately makes too much money, like you could do Mitch for him but that’s just swapping injury risk for injury risk.
Scratch one ex-Villanova guy off the potential FA signing list.
Pussiewillow
He’s like the guy in the red shirt on Star Trek
I think you are overestimating KAT’s current trade value. I’m not sure anyone thinks his contract is attractive and for sure no one thinks he’s the main star to build around anymore.
He’s an excellent offensive player and especially good if you want a stretch 5, but he’s not going to protect the rim and he’s arguably a bit soft and everyone knows it.
If anything, Leon won’t be interested because he thinks he’s a bad value for a one way player.
I go back and forth on it, but he’s a bit more intriguing when you have OG and Mikal on the wings starting and at times might have OG, Mikal, and Hart on the perimeter defensively or DDV instead of Hart and you’ll have endless space and possibly the #1 offense in the league.
Kessler looked OK tonight. He doesn’t look like a starting C to me if you are thinking in terms of making a serious run this year and Mitch gets hurt. But he’s young. I think there’s something to work with longer term and he’d be OK as a backup. No way I’m giving up what Ainge is reportedly asking for. Who knows what he’d take.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276631/Knicks-Offered-Two-First-Round-Picks-For-Walker-Kessler
“Pussiewillow”
No; it’s still spelled incorrectly on purpose, albeit in a different way than you spelled it incorrectly on purpose earlier today. LOL
now there’s a Wildcat who prefers money to winning.
Esa-dog, there are first round picks and then there are first round picks. If the two picks were the protected Washington pick and the protected Detroit pick, the headline would be true, but it still wouldn’t be a great offer.
I just hope that Doogie spends his non-knickerblogger time writing letters to Snak Club, Play Skool, Froot Loops, Kool Aid, and Fotomart telling them that their brand names don’t pass grammatical muster. (Off-season is a good time to remind them.)
I’ve never written to any of those companies about that. In fact, I’m pretty sure that I’ve never written to any company about anything.
I’ve never heard of “Snak Club” or “Fotomart.” I’ve heard of “Fotomat,” but I think it’s defunct now. And I’m pretty sure that Playskool is one word—I don’t feel like looking any of these up.