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Like Cyber said in the last thread, it would depend on the picks. I’d be sad to lose Obi, but it’s not happening for him here.
The question is what’s the new starting lineup with OG here. Does RJ slide to the 2 and grimes goes back to the bench? Or does Thibs have the authority/ability to make RJ a sixth man?
Pop quiz – which starter for a legitimate championship contender is sporting a ghastly (as Clyde would put it) .490 TS?
I believe that’s the foundation for a great trade that would be beneficial for both sides. The picks would most likely be one of our 2023 picks and the Milwaukee pick. I do think we’d have to throw in iHart and/or the Washington to get it done.
strat this one’s for you. remember not to read it with 500 yards of a playground.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-nba-teams-are-bringing-the-post-up-back-to-life/
dmar it’s dillon brooks, who was actually born as bizarro danny green, but had to change his name knowing they would eventually be teammates.
also, from last night. lillard’s air really is the most rarified. unlike most of the comps, he hasn’t even won a single conference finals game.
All signs indicate that Thibs loves RJ unconditionally, so I think he would stay in the starting lineup until 2 months after it becomes obvious that it’s a bad idea.
But in an ideal world, it’s either IQ or Grimes at the 2 supporting a top 4 of Brunson-OG-Randle-Mitch.
When we’re protecting a lead in the final minutes, we could even sit Brunson for an outstanding defensive lineup with IQ, Grimes, OG, and Mitch. In the offseason we can add two players to our bench by using our other first round pick and the full mid-level.
This is a great fit for us. If Leon can pull it off after adding Brunson, it will put his tenure in the plus category even with his litany of mistakes.
It’s a great fit for Toronto, too. You line Obi up with FVV, Trent Jr, Barnes, Siakim, and he’s likely getting 5-6 easy dunks a game. Hartenstein would fit like a glove there, too.
This should get done. I don’t see Toronto only wanting picks, and I can’t imagine a better trade partner out there for both sides.
In the WC there are 3 games separating the #4 seed NOP from the #13 seed LAL. That has to be unprecedented for this late in the season, no?
> I think Knickerblogger is an excellent name for a mid-aughts basketball blog but Factory of Sadness would have worked well too.
But in 2003, it was obvious that Isiah Thomas was bringing hope to this team & was going to bring it back to it’s 90s glory.
The physiognomist in me is having a tough time supporting RJ every time I’m watching his “cool cow eyes” while he’s playing or his sneaky smiles while he’s on the bench.
I am not going to think about Isiah anymore. I don’t have to.
Dillon Brooks. If there is one player in the NBA who absolutely confounds me it’s him. I think I mention it every single time I watch him. He’s not good. He’s actively bad in how he plays actually. With a liberal slathering of macho bullshit.
Maybe he is great on defense but I don’t see it.
Tyus seems a clearly better player to give any available minute to.
Also, Santi Aldama has really put a season together. I remember noticing him early in the season and thinking he looked good. Quite a solid line. The Grizzlies have done it again.
I don’t know if I can think of a deeper team in NBA history that wasn’t a clear NBA title favorite.
I thought Dillon Brooks was just a designated usage soaker/tank commander when the Grizzlies were bad. Then they got really good and continued to play him a lot. It’s a bizarre phenomenon stemming from an organization that seems otherwise ruthlessly dedicated to analytics and the like.
However when you look under the hood it might not be as weird as it seems. He might have the biggest delta between his box-score metrics and his impact metrics I’ve seen.
He is 46th in the league in 3-year RAPM, 33rd in 2022-2023 RAPM, and his 2022-2023 RPM is decidedly positive (1.61, 18th among 79 ranked small forwards). The Grizzlies have been *decidedly* better with him on the court for three straight seasons, all by between 7-8 PTS/100. He seems to make them better on both ends. To be sure some of this is just overlap with the Grizzlies’ unambiguously good players, but RAPM and RPM at least theoretically account for that kind of thing.
He might be a genuine outlier defensive talent, and an extreme example of the “3PA matters more than 3PT%” phenomenon to boot.
Or maybe he’s really bad and they play him for non-basketball reasons. I don’t know.
The news bot says Pete Maravich erupted for 68 points last night. I didn’t even know he was still playing.
Dillon Brooks has excellent on court and on/off numbers. He’s sort of like a poor man’s Marcus Smart…a guy that gets into opposing grilles and fucks with their heads. He shoots way too much but when you have the best offensive rebounding team in the league, my guess is that a lot of his misses don’t end possessions. While he clearly hurts their eFG%, they have the 2nd best opponent eFG% and he plays the most minutes, so there must be a lot of defensive intangibles he brings to the table that don’t show up as steals, blocks, or DRebs.
Since they have never been out of the conference semis and aren’t even leading the West, I don’t see why they should be a clear NBA title favorite. Vegas has them at #6, behind BOS, MIL, BKN, DEN, and GSW. I’d put them ahead of the Nets, but otherwise that seems fair.
I am not saying they are NBA favorites, although they certainly have a shot. I am saying that they are exceptionally deep for a team that isn’t.
I think what I am also saying, implicitly, is that maybe Ja is not a true generational superstar.
And I don’t understand why Dillon can’t do the defensive stuff without taking all the bad shots.
I also don’t know how much I trust the data with Brooks because he always seems to be out there with their strongest lineups as you said. I am sure PT has the answer.
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“strat this one’s for you. remember not to read it with 500 yards of a playground.”
Thanks!
I’ve been saying some of this stuff for years.
“The post up is not efficient”.
Well, yeah, it’s often a terrible idea.
But it’s still a great idea if you have a mismatch and a player with good moves around the basket.
We went away from teaching those post up skills and using them when appropriate because there wasn’t a full understanding of the “exceptions” to the rule that post ups are not that efficient.
If we actually taught those skills like we used to, we’d find more situations where they were very efficient.
Like the fossil record before him, Dillon Brooks was put on earth to test the faith of the orthodox.
Nice find, Owen. I didn’t think he good get any lower, but the worst is not so long as we can say “this is the worst”.
During Hart struggle we talked about the abundance of tall, athletic rim running bigs with limited offensive skill (i.e. Mitch, Sims etc) and the fact thet they can be picked up in the second round or signed for nearly minimum wage.
On the other hand there is a legitimate league shortage of tall, athletic 3&D players and they are coveted by every team. As a player and player agent, – it would make a ton of sense to brand themselves as 3&D guy than try to aim for an All-Star type career.
Cam can turn himself into an elite 3&D player, – if he can get out of his head that he’s the next Paul George.
Obi has athleticism and legth to be a great defender and has a decent natural shooting touch, – if he focused on that development specifically.
Instead, they will both be out the league in three years while Grimes is untouchable in a DM trade and will likely have a 12 year career with life time earnings of $150M+
Massai is a genious for targeting this niche market and will likely end up capitalizing on OG’s peak market value.
“I think what I am also saying, implicitly, is that maybe Ja is not a true generational superstar.”
I think at this point I would take SGA over Ja. He is turning into that generational superstar
“Massai is a genious for targeting this niche market and will likely end up capitalizing on OG’s peak market value.”
And IMO, the values are correct.
There’s only so many possessions in a game. You don’t need every player to be a high usage all star caliber scorer. You just need enough scoring diversity to be tough to defend. I haven’t seen data, but from watching the game for decades, imo you more or less need 2 superstars or 1 superstar and 2 all star caliber scorers. After that you start getting into diminishing returns. So once you have that scoring core you are better off with players that are very high level defenders or very good rebounder/defenders as the role players as long as they give you “something” on offense.
I don’t want to debate it again. It didn’t turn out the way I hoped, but that was my case for Frank eventually becoming a very useful piece. He was plus defender, long enough to switch and guard 3-4 positions, and a willing ball mover that could occasionally make a play. All he had to do was add a consistent 3 to be very useful (kind of like Bullock). The fact that he didn’t was certainly disappointing, but the idea that he had to become some versatile scorer that could penetrate and make shots and plays off the dribble was not true.
It feels that way. Ja is great of course but not quite in that tier 1A category for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFjx8hXHz0
Maybe this is our future Dillon Brooks…
I’d be more positive about the Keels video of there were a single highlight of him going left. Instead he basically just had a hot shooting night….
Yeah but at 6’5″ 220LB he can just act tough and throw his body around while jacking up a bunch of bricks…
As to Shai vs. Ja, you take the one you want and I’ll settle for who’s left over…
Just be glad Keels looks like he belongs in the g-league during those highlights
Fwiw, keels was supposed to be a great shooter coming out of high school but couldn’t hit anything in college. Hopefully he fixed his shot and this is just the first sign.
Morant takes a lot of risks for the reward of being internationally famous for his highlight reel. Whereas Gilgeous-Alexander is just kind of boringly good at everything. Kind of like Iverson vs Duncan. Iverson transcended the game, while Duncan won 4 titles and my wife was still like “who’s Tim Duncan?”.
IQ popping up in strange lists….
https://twitter.com/IQfor3/status/1618388483881734146
Well that’s easy to explain, IQ is the 3rd best player in the NBA.
That is nice company, although an indicment on the inadequacy of our starting lineup for that period.
I was going to point out this one:
https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1618294926969810947
in which we have RJ Barrett with the most field goals made at the corner three.
I don’t even know what that twitter list is even saying. I thought it was a parody account. But then I looked up the stat and it says that Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is the current league leader. So maybe it’s a parody stat?
Probably by virtue of being on the court at the same time as Jokic.
If the stats say that your favorite bench player is the third best player in the NBA then you know they are right.
That’s how statistics work.
Well, unlike the Knicks, we know what to expect from Dolan and he never fails to deliver. #embarrassment
What’s this? We have less games because of the pandemic? 🙁
Marcus Smart is out. I know he’s not Tatum or Brown, but subtracting the reigning DPOY from the 6th ranked defense certainly helps our cause…
That’s huge for Brunson. This is going to be fun!
I just saw a Tyrese Maxey highlight and man, isn’t it funny how teams just keep drafting dudes like Maxey on the hope that they turn out like Maxey, and almost none of them turn out like Maxey? It’s the most fascinating thing. Everyone wants to try out guys who are like Player X, when the odds of them turning out like Player X are so low. However, by taking those shots, you sometimes get players like Player X, while if you go for the high floor guys, there’s much more certainty in their play, but it is also much more likely to never be star level. Just interesting challenges for NBA GMs.
The NBA All-Star starter announcements are hilariously awkward.
Lebron, Zion and Jokic in the frontcourt for the Western Conference.
Curry and Doncic as the backcourt. Lebron is the Western captain.
Giannis as Eastern captain.
Tatum and Durant as the other members of the frontcourt. Interesting that Giannis picked over Durant as Eastern captain. So no Embiid. Interesting.
Kyrie and Spida as the backcourt.
Spida’s a likable dude.
The All-Star game used to be a very big deal to me. Now if it meant nothing, that would be an uptick.
It’s really fun watching the TNT guys shit all over the Knicks.
These guys make me long for Wally…
Chuck shitting on Trump voters, however…