Knicks Morning News (2017.05.01)

  • [NYTimes] Sports Briefing: Celtics Open Conference Semifinal by Beating Wizards
    (Monday, May 01, 2017 3:56:10 AM)

    Isaiah Thomas, a day after attending his sister’s funeral, scored 33 points as Boston won Game 1.

  • [NYTimes] Jazz 104, Clippers 91 | Jazz win series, 4-3: Jazz Top the Clippers in Game 7, Escorting Them to Another Early Exit
    (Monday, May 01, 2017 3:04:45 AM)

    Utah, led by Gordon Hayward’s 26 points, knocked Chris Paul and his teammates out of the playoffs and into an uncertain future.

  • [NYPost] Why the Jazz’s win could have Carmelo Anthony heading west
    (Sunday, April 30, 2017 7:58:51 PM)

    Chris Paul reprimanded J.J. Redick near the Clippers bench in the first quarter of Sunday’s Game 7. The shooting guard had failed to rush over to help out Paul, who had given up his dribble after being trapped by Utah’s swarming double-team. Two hours later, the Clippers left the Staples Center court, their season over,…

  • 71 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2017.05.01)”

    I’d hate to be the Clips right now. I think they’re in a worst position than our Knicks. They’re in one helluva catch 22. Do they move Blake Griffin and re-tool around CP3 and DJ? If they do, do they make a play for Melo and somehow still have the resources to bring in a young wing who can defend and a couple young pieces for the bench? A CP3-DJ-Melo core would be great, but old. What if Blake opts out? What if CP3 opts out? Bad situation. Given that, I’m all for Phil squeezing a 1st out of them for Melo. Problem with that is, we would have to take back major crap. I’m ok with Austin Rivers, but there’s no one else I would take back in a trade on that roster outside of DJ & CP3. On to CP3..

    It would be a really shrewd risk should he leave the Clips and sign with a team in the EC. Funny as it sounds, his most logical destination would be the Knicks if he opts out- but we are not contending. If Melo stays, and CP3 accepts less to be a Knick- that’s a VERY dangerous team if healthy. But I don’t want any more “if healthy’s”. Let’s look at his other options in the EC(playoff contenders):
    1. Atlanta- Why? Milsap is opting out and all they would have left is a high mileage Dwight Howard.
    2. Charlotte- Walker’s there. Granted, they can always find a way to trade him for a better fit- but who?
    3. Indy- Not even sure if PG is staying and CP3-Turner is not enough.
    4. Boston- Great fit if they are willing to trade Thomas. I don’t think they would be though. They have a chance to be young and good for a long time.
    5. Chicago- Naaaaaahhhhhhh
    6. NY- Not a contender, but I’ll put them here. Roster space and opportunity to mentor Baker and Randle. A core of CP3-KP-Melo-Willy-Lee-KOQ sounds really good in the East. Better role players would then want to be a part of it for less.

    If CP3 opts out, he shouldn’t even look at other WC teams..

    @1 Somehow you assume the Clippers are even considering Melo at this point. Why would they? It’s not even clear he helps them get to the 2nd round, let alone any further.
    I think we lost the Clippers as a potential Melo destination.

    I don’t assume. I’m just going off of the in season rumor along with the fact that Melo’s probably a better fit alongside DJ & CP3 than Blake Griffin, but it would make that core very old- hence the catch 22.

    I think the Clips WILL try and get Melo if for no other reason than they have to bring back CP3 or they’re literally done for the foreseeable future. Sure they can renounce CP3, Redick, and Blake, but with contracts the way they are now, they will not be able to get guys of even remotely comparable value, and they have traded away most of their picks so will not get any benefit of being bad. They almost HAVE to go super-all-in.

    In my brain there is an inkling of a trade framework that could work out for a bunch of teams, with the skeleton being:

    Knicks get Rivers, Rubio, Brice Johnson, Asik, Pelicans top 3 protected 2018 1st round pick, Clippers 2021 1st round pick
    New Orleans gets a sign/traded Redick (via LAC->NYK->NO)
    Clippers get Melo
    Minnesota gets Courtney Lee

    Knicks would get –> probably 2 lottery picks, two young reasonably priced guards that can defend, and 1 admittedly very bad contract (although Asik is only $3M guaranteed in 2019-20).

    NO needs a real shooting guard badly. They had zero shooting to complement Boogie + AD. If they want, we could sign/trade them Justin Holiday also (so they could use their MLE on someone else) and so they maybe could throw in a 2nd or 2.

    Clippers – Melo, then they re-sign Blake/CP3, use their MLE on a SG to replace Redick, and run it back.

    Minnesota – gets Courtney Lee, who they’ve loved the whole time.

    It’s funny to me that after the Clips bow out again, someone on that team is actually thinking they need to get Melo…hahahaha.

    CP3 might find NY desirable with a young core of Henangomez and KP and some other nice young pieces. With Melo, CP3, KP, Willy and Lee and Noah off the bench, might be a lot more attractive than staying with the clips.

    If CP3 is serious about winning a chip there’s no other place he should go than the Spurs. What would SA have to do to acquire him?

    It’s funny to me that after the Clips bow out again, someone on that team is actually thinking they need to get Melo…hahahaha.

    CP3 might find NY desirable with a young core of Henangomez and KP and some other nice young pieces. With Melo, CP3, KP, Willy and Lee and Noah off the bench, might be a lot more attractive than staying with the clips.

    It’s funny to me that literally 1 paragraph after saying that it’s funny that people think the Clips want Melo, that you suggest CP3 might want to play in NY. A) there’s the Phil Jackson problem. You think CP3 wants any part of this? He’s literally Melo’s best friend. B) there’s that matter of the $45MM 5th year that the Clippers can give him. CP3 is staying. Spurs have no cap space unless Gasol opts out, and even then, it’s only about 1/2 of what CP3 could make elsewhere in the 1st year.

    I could fantasize about a situation in which CP3 tells Dolan he’ll come to NY if Dolan fires Phil. That’s a great fantasy!

    Knicks would get –> probably 2 lottery picks, two young reasonably priced guards that can defend, and 1 admittedly very bad contract

    Red Auerbach doesn’t pull off this trade. Danny Ainge doesn’t. Not even if they are in a league where ALL the other GM’s are Vlade clones.

    I’m telling you, the banana boat in Cleveland is gonna happen. Cavs will lose to the warriors in the finals (and it won’t be in 7 games) and Lebron will make the banana boat happen.

    Irving goes to the Clips for CP3.

    Melo goes to Cleveland, Love goes to Boston, picks go to NYK.

    Wade signs on with Cleveland as a free agent.

    THE BANANA BOAT IS HAPPENING IN CLEVELAND.

    Chris Paul isn’t coming to the Knicks guys.

    If Reddick & Blake leave I think the Clips could get space enough for Melo by just trading us something shitty like Crawford or Rivers, right? I’d do that deal.

    @ 12 phil won’t do a deal that doesn’t involve draft picks though. I’d be fine with Crawford and Rivers if we get some future firsts. To me that’s the play bc the clips will suck in 2 or 3 years at the most. Get some future firsts unprotected and we could be in a nice spot in a few years.

    Why do people always think these players will do things that they themselves would never do. So CP3 is gonna leave Clips and forego $50M? STOP IT.

    The most important thing is getting rid of Melo. If you wind up trading Melo for 15 million in cap space that’s better than keeping Melo.

    @ 14 – Didn’t LeBron do that twice? Once to go to Miami and once to come back to Cleveland? Didn’t he leave a bunch of money on the table/guaranteed years to chase rings?

    Didn’t Dwight do it to sign with Houston instead of The Lakers?

    Its not the most likely outcome but it does happen, especially with players who WANT to win. Sure CP3 is leaving money on the table to go somewhere else, he would also in theory be increasing his odds of winning a championship considerably which leads to MORE MONEY. So why don’t you “stop it.”

    if i already made hundreds of millions of dollars… i would def forgo a decent chunk of money to enjoy my job better… that’s basically what dirk and duncan did… i’m not sure if cp3 is wired quite the same way tho and he’d probably have to leave a little more than 50mm to get on the spurs for example..

    Didn’t LeBron do that twice? Once to go to Miami and once to come back to Cleveland? Didn’t he leave a bunch of money on the table/guaranteed years to chase rings?

    Dude Lebron made 50 million dollars OFF the court this year. Yeah let’s compare other players to the most famous and marketable athlete in the world. Makes sense

    if i already made hundreds of millions of dollars… i would def forgo a decent chunk of money to enjoy my job better… that’s basically what dirk and duncan did… i’m not sure if cp3 is wired quite the same way tho and he’d probably have to leave a little more than 50mm to get on the spurs for example..

    A lot of the general knowledge around Dirk is that he will be repayed on the back end. ThAt started this passed year. Duncan has been rumored to have some kind of role after retirement promised to him as well, and he’s just a different type of cat anyway. Ain’t no way in hell im passing up 50 mil to leave LA at that

    @ 19 – Right. Cause no one knows who Chris Paul is. He isn’t all ready making State Farm commercials, an Olympic gold medalist and isn’t an all around likable nice guy you can put in commercials. Does Chris Paul play point guard? I can’t remember.

    Dude, the banana boat would be THE sports story if it happened. Chris Paul has all ready made millions of dollars in his career. What he hasn’t done is win a championship. Going to Cleveland gives him the ability to do that. Which means not just more money during his career but more money for the rest of his life. You act like its impossible for him to leave that money on the table but its not like he gets an extra 50 million or he gets paid the vet minimum. He would still get a huge contract from Cleveland (at least 16 to 20 million a year). He’d get to play with the greatest player in the world and one of his best friends. If Wade and Melo came he’d be playing with 3 of his best friends. Its something they’ve talked about very recently.

    Everyone is assuming that whether we trade Melo to the Clippers or not is a function of the thinking in LA and that this first round loss helps the cause. I’m not so sure about that.

    If I’m Melo and I am looking at the Clippers, I’m thinking they can’t even get out of the first round, Blake is constantly hurt, they have no young improving talent, and the west is loaded with both experienced and talented up and coming teams. I have no chance to win a title with the Clippers, especially if they give up Blake as part of the deal. I’d scratch them off the list immediately even if I do like LA.

    At this point I’d be WAY more interested in Boston. They got through the first round, they may get through the second round, they have younger players and are loaded with picks, and they are in the weaker east. They could make a trade for me without weakening their core much, improve with me, and still have plenty of picks to improve the team further. I could have a good 3-5 year run in Boston.

    The most important thing is getting rid of Melo. If you wind up trading Melo for 15 million in cap space that’s better than keeping Melo.

    I want more than just that, but imo your point is correct. More cap space would not be a bad deal given the KP timetable.

    Minnesota – gets Courtney Lee, who they’ve loved the whole time.

    If the T-Wolves love Courtney Lee, I would be in favor of a Lee for Rubio swap and moving Holiday into the starting lineup pending whatever else we do.

    To be blunt, any trade in which you take back two years and $24M of Austin Rivers and you won the trade is a sign that your franchise has been irredeemably fucked.

    If Rivers becomes a Knick, I expect Mike K. to use the following headline: Here Comes Austin Rivers!

    Everyone is assuming that whether we trade Melo to the Clippers or not is a function of the thinking in LA and that this first round loss helps the cause. I’m not so sure about that.

    If I’m Melo and I am looking at the Clippers, I’m thinking they can’t even get out of the first round, Blake is constantly hurt, they have no young improving talent, and the west is loaded with both experienced and talented up and coming teams. I have no chance to win a title with the Clippers, especially if they give up Blake as part of the deal. I’d scratch them off the list immediately even if I do like LA.

    I think Melo still see himself as an elite player who can lift playoff teams to contend.

    Clippers are in a tough situation OTOH.

    If they didn’t have traded a lot of future firsts, this could be the perfect time to blow this team.

    CP3 is 32 with a long list of nagging injuries and, as good as he is, a 5 year mega max contract is a huge risk to blow in their faces in the next 2 years at most.

    It’s like Noah’s contract on steroids

    @ 27 – that’s why the banana boat is gonna happen.

    Seriously, Melo to the Clips or Boston or CP3 to another team in the west still means they have to get through LeBron and/or The Warriors to win it all. But go to Cleveland and they’re pretty much guaranteed a finals trip at the least. BANANA BOAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN CLEVELAND.

    and Jowles, if I’m right I hope you will quote it as much as you quote my stupid Bargs quote. 🙂

    Boston is a competently-run franchise. There is no way in hell they trade assets for Carmelo. Their oldest player is Gerald Green at 31 years old. 11 of their 15 players were 27 or younger. Why would they give up youth or picks for a 33-year-old washed-up former star?

    The Clippers are dumb enough to do it. Doc Rivers may be a good coach, but he’s obsessed with brand equity. Melo may be the brand du jour.

    Melo is going to be 33, he’s coming off three straight mediocre seasons, he has an absurd contract that includes a full no-trade clause and the Knicks are obviously desperate to move him. The Knicks have no leverage here, and they’re not going to be getting anything of quality in return.

    I don’t know how this will end up, but I do know that Dolan’s Razor is real. Whatever happens, the outcome is going to be incredibly irritating. Expect a reverse of the situation that brought Melo here, where we were coerced to give up everything in the cupboard to acquire him. The Knicks will probably have to surrender an asset like Hernangomez to move Melo. That’s just how we roll, bros.

    if givcn the choice to max out cp3 at 32 and Jrue at 26, whats better?

    I could fantasize about a situation in which CP3 tells Dolan he’ll come to NY if Dolan fires Phil. That’s a great fantasy!

    That’s like telling Satan you’ll come to hell, but only if he gets rid of Leona Helmsley first.

    if givcn the choice to max out cp3 at 32 and Jrue at 26, whats better?

    Paul is so goddamn good at basketball that I might be okay with 2 great seasons, 1 good one, and 2 shitty ones. I doubt he’s going to immediately start to suck. He could very well be one of those Stockton-like guys who refuses to age. Hell, even Nash was good until age 38. But when it hit, it hit hard.

    cp3 is going to be 32 and just put up a .264 ws48… if you could give six year contracts he’s as good a bet as any to get your money’s worth on it…

    @30: JK, you are probably right. And for that reason, I am most likely opposed to giving up anything like WH or KP to move Melo. Even Courtney Lee has a value as a finishing piece to a contender, whether it be an EC or WC team. Let Melo come off the bench next year-it may force him to exercise his ETO. Even if he doesn’t, an expiring contract adds value during 2018-2019. We are stuck with Melo because dumping him may put the Nix in a worse situation.

    Honestly, if we can’t get anything of semi-ok value for Melo, it might not be the worst thing in the world to keep him. If it’s a miserable year, he will opt out, and we don’t have to have any longer term contracts weighing us down from a bad trade. The major risk is just another year of total dysfunction, but hey, we have KP for 2 years after next year, so we’ll have time to re-romance him.

    If we can’t get anything half-decent for Melo we should waive him. Who knows, Magic Johnson might just claim him and wash our hands of the contract. If not, it’s just two years of dead cap. We’re not going to be making waves in free agency during that time anyway.

    Shit the east is so bad that Paul coming here, plus Fox, would probably guarantee the second round of the playoffs.

    If we can’t get anything half-decent for Melo we should waive him. Who knows, Magic Johnson might just claim him and wash our hands of the contract. If not, it’s just two years of dead cap. We’re not going to be making waves in free agency during that time anyway.

    I actually wonder what the mechanics of that would be. Could the Knicks tell Melo that if he officially opts out of the last year of the contract, they would waive him? And if he doesn’t, then they won’t waive him? I don’t think anyone is picking up that contract. Also, would the no-trade clause still apply?

    If Melo is waved, no one would claim him. The Knicks will be on the hook for the salary

    I actually wonder what the mechanics of that would be. Could the Knicks tell Melo that if he officially opts out of the last year of the contract, they would waive him? And if he doesn’t, then they won’t waive him? I don’t think anyone is picking up that contract. Also, would the no-trade clause still apply?

    This is an interesting idea but I don’t think Melo would get on board. If he’s waived he doesn’t collect the trade kicker and loses the chance he has now to essentially handpick his next team. So I don’t think it’s something he’d cooperate with at all. My guess is the NTC would still apply if someone claimed him because you’re essentially claiming the contract, but BC or ephus would probably know more.

    If Melo is waved, no one would claim him. The Knicks will be on the hook for the salary

    No, he goes on waivers for 48 hours (I think that’s the amount of time but not 100% certain on that) and all teams with enough cap space to just add him have the opportunity to do so. If multiple teams do, the team with the worst record wins the claim. If he’s claimed the Knicks are totally off the hook. If he’s not, then he becomes a free agent and the Knicks are officially on the hook for the remainder of his contract.

    Aha – all the ESPN firings suddenly make sense. According to the twitter thing, they’re hiring the One Writer To Rule Them All —> Woj. Why pay for 20 newsbreakers when you can just pay one.

    No, he goes on waivers for 48 hours (I think that’s the amount of time but not 100% certain on that) and all teams with enough cap space to just add him have the opportunity to do so. If multiple teams do, the team with the worst record wins the claim. If he’s claimed the Knicks are totally off the hook. If he’s not, then he becomes a free agent and the Knicks are officially on the hook for the remainder of his contract.

    Paying Melo on a max contract to play for somebody else would be perhaps the Knicksiest possible ending to this saga. Therefore it is somewhat likely.

    If he’s not, then he becomes a free agent and the Knicks are officially on the hook for the remainder of his contract.

    That’s what I said lol

    It would be knicksy but I could see it being a threat they use with Melo to get him to agree to a trade to a team other than his preferred destinations. Like if they have a good offer from a team and Melo says he doesn’t want to play there then the knicks could say “ok, we’ll just waive you, which will be super embarrassing for a super star like you and then you might get picked up by the kings.”

    Paying Melo on a max contract to play for somebody else would be perhaps the Knicksiest possible ending to this saga. Therefore it is somewhat likely.

    It’d be shitty but it’s obviously better than attaching a sweetener to dump him, and is arguably better than trading him for a bunch of the Clippers’ crap and nothing else. At least waiving him comes with the possibility that we free up space. If he doesn’t get claimed, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over passing up on Jamal Crawford and Here Comes Austin Rivers.

    I don’t even think the Lakers claim Melo in this hypothetical situation even if they really loved him. It makes zero sense finacially and by not claiming him it frees them up to make a play at creating the best win now team they can.

    Phil wouldn’t really do a sign and trade with Redick to take the place of Crawford in a Austin/Redick for Melo would he?

    The money Redick would ask for to agree to come to N.Y. would be too much and to long for a 32 year old.

    If the Banana Boat teams up in Cleveland, I’d be so happy with summer 2018’s television. You have the Warriors vs the Banana Boat, and then you have GoT.

    Seriously though if CP3 and Melo want to go to Cleveland it makes way more sense to get Blake Griffin and Minnesota involved. Kyrie and Minnesota’s 2017 goes to NY because brand, LAC gets Rubio and Kevin Love because they still want to be competitive, Blake goes to Minnesota because they need a power forward, and Cleveland gets Melo and CP3.

    In reality Dolan’s Razor takes over and we lose.

    I think you sign CP3 to a max at age 32 no questions asked. When he starts playing like shit he’ll probably be about as good as Jrue!

    Chris Paul on the Knicks might be the most implausible hypothetical ever.

    He’s awesome but he’d make us a second round washout at best. He’d be fun to watch at least.

    It’s funny to me that literally 1 paragraph after saying that it’s funny that people think the Clips want Melo, that you suggest CP3 might want to play in NY. A) there’s the Phil Jackson problem. You think CP3 wants any part of this? He’s literally Melo’s best friend. B) there’s that matter of the $45MM 5th year that the Clippers can give him. CP3 is staying. Spurs have no cap space unless Gasol opts out, and even then, it’s only about 1/2 of what CP3 could make elsewhere in the 1st year.

    I could fantasize about a situation in which CP3 tells Dolan he’ll come to NY if Dolan fires Phil. That’s a great fantasy!

    Frank,

    You’re probably right.
    I was thinking Melo here may be an attraction to his friend and having a young core might be very attractive. But money is money and careers are finite.

    I think the Phil triangle factor would dissipate if you bring in a guard of the quality of CP3.
    But Phil as an idiosyncratic GM is probably a bridge too far.

    I’m just not sure I see where the Knicks would send Melo without getting pockets picked. their position is weak.

    The Knicks are not in a weak position. Sure they want Melo gone but they also aren’t a playoff team trying to get over the hump or a contender trying to reload against the Warriors. They know their real future is with KP. They got a top 7 (hopefully) pick coming their way and if NOTHING changes this off season they’ll have another top pick next year. Melo could easily opt out next year after another 30 win season and no playoffs. The Knicks are not in a weak position at all in any Melo trade bc they don’t have to do shit.

    @49 Kyrie and Minnesota’s 2017 goes to NY

    Dream on. Although looking for a sunny beach somewhere and forgetting this mess is probably better.

    Yeah, we probably can’t get a decent return for Melo without packaging him with someone else. Which Jackson has a history of doing. I suspect he’ll find it especially attractive if it frees enough cap space to chase a max free agent. Best case scenario is we hold onto KP and Willy and pick up another first, but… Anybody think skipping the exit interview was KP asking for a trade?

    Why do people always think these players will do things that they themselves would never do. So CP3 is gonna leave Clips and forego $50M? STOP IT.

    …..Didn’t Dwight do it to sign with Houston instead of The Lakers?……

    It’s true Dwight could have had a 5th year at 30m if he had stayed a Laker. But Dwight was younger (27yo) than CP3 and was gonna sign another major contract. He actually might have made more money by signing his last big contract after 3-4 years on Rockets instead of waiting 4-5 years on Lakers. So it’s not clear he gave up any money. But it is true he took on risk of a major injury hurting his future earnings. This will be CP3’s final major contract. He won’t be able to recoup that 50m in his next contract at the age of 36.

    David West is the only older player I’m able to recall who gave up a significant amount of money to go after a ring. Bookmark this thread Swift and throw it in my face (like Jowles does to you about bargs) if 32yo CP3 leaves 50m on the table. There’s a first time for everything I guess.

    All this conjecture about the Knicks and Melo and trades is fine and dandy – a good way to waste a few hours. When I look at the situation all I dream about is trading away anyone over 25 and getting picks in return. But my dream will never come true so we have another year of purgatory to deal with.

    All this conjecture about the Knicks and Melo and trades is fine and dandy – a good way to waste a few hours. When I look at the situation all I dream about is trading away anyone over 25 and getting picks in return. But my dream will never come true so we have another year of purgatory to deal with.

    Pretty much, except that there’s at least a chance that Melo actually leaves this time around, which wasn’t the case in previous years. That doesn’t fix the entire situation, but that would at least be a step in the right direction (unless, of course, the trade is terrible).

    Honestly, if we can’t get anything of semi-ok value for Melo, it might not be the worst thing in the world to keep him. If it’s a miserable year, he will opt out, and we don’t have to have any longer term contracts weighing us down from a bad trade. The major risk is just another year of total dysfunction, but hey, we have KP for 2 years after next year, so we’ll have time to re-romance him.

    I want to get rid of Melo so badly (to end my personal multi year nightmare), I would gladly sign off on expiring contracts to do it. However, if it involves taking back bad multi year contracts, I’d rather stay with Melo for another year also and let him opt out (which he will).

    I defended Jrue Holiday a bit a month or so back. I don’t think he’s as bad as some people think, but there’s no way he’s worth a max contract. If that’s out off season signing, it will be time for new management. I’d rather have Rose at a discount on a single year contract to fill the gap than Jrue at the max long term.

    Phil wouldn’t really do a sign and trade with Redick to take the place of Crawford in a Austin/Redick for Melo would he?

    I hope not, but it’s conceivable that if he’s motivated enough to move Melo he might. He likes Rivers a bit (why I don’t know) and adding Redick would allow him to trade Courtney Lee and add another piece. Redick is a better scorer than Lee (which the Knicks will need) and Lee has not been the defender we were hoping for anyway (though he’s certainly fine at the price).

    The more I think about it, the more I think the most obvious move the Knicks can make is to trade Courtney Lee and move Justin Holiday into the starting lineup. Holiday is 4 years younger, may still be improving, will come cheaper than Lee, we aren’t going to lose much in the starting lineup, and Lee is still desired around the league. So we may be able to get back something good.

    I se absolutely no strategic reason for waiving Melo. There is zero chance he gets picked up on waivers at that price, and once you do it, there’s no turning back.

    It is far more logical to simply not play him, and if he complains, tell him to stay away from the team, like they (wrongfully) did to Stephon Marbury. Then at least there is a reasonable chance he waives his NTC (and he can waive the trade kicker after July 1) and we deal him for a couple of 2nd rounders and an expiring. Or maybe he opts out of year 5.

    I would never waive a player before the trade deadline of his expiring year and then have him come into my house and shit all over it on my dime while he’s chasing a ring. But that’s just me.

    Why in the world would CP3 want to join the shit show known as the New York Knicks?
    Please Stop with these delusional scenarios that have Zero chance of ever getting close to happening.

    Since Chris Bosh seems to be hell-bent on playing, should Phil take advantage by offering Melo for Winslow and Bosh? Riley’s probably too smart for that because Bosh’s playing future looks bleak at best, but it’s worth a call at least

    I guess Lebron didn’t get the memo about the Raptors being a threat this year

    It’s cool the Cavs are undefeated in the playoffs this year but technically the Knicks haven’t lost a single playoff game since 2013

    @63

    I would never waive a player before the trade deadline of his expiring year and then have him come into my house and shit all over it on my dime while he’s chasing a ring. But that’s just me.

    Me too!

    How about the idiots who tried to claim that OKCs supporting cast was just as good as Houstons

    That’s some serious ass kicking happening in San Antonio right now…

    Agreed. Maybe San Antonio is going to feel the need for Melo’ services

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