Knicks Morning News (2016.03.12)

  • [New York Newsday] Phil Jackson still believes in Carmelo Anthony, Kurt Rambis; Knicks fall again (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:52:00 EST)
  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Damian Lillard Comes Home to an Unwelcome Comparison (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:49:58 GMT)

    Raised in Oakland, Lillard returned there with the Trail Blazers to confront the Warriors and a brewing rivalry with Steph Curry that has the potential to be one of the league’s best matchups for years to come.

  • [New York Times] Highlights of Friday’s NBA Games (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:54:27 GMT)

    Highlights of Friday’s National Basketball Association games.

  • [New York Times] Curry, Thompson Combine for 15 3-Pointers in Rout of Blazers (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:06:35 GMT)

    The Splash Brothers had no plans of letting Damian Lillard steal the 3-point spotlight this time.

  • [New York Times] Thompson, Curry Combine for 71 as Warriors Rout Blazers (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:36:27 GMT)

    Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson dominated their matchup with the Portland backcourt of Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum on Friday night, exploding for 71 points in the Golden State Warriors’ 128-112 blowout of the Trail Blazers.

  • [New York Times] Paul, Redick Lead Clippers to 101-94 Win Over Knicks (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:21:37 GMT)

    Chris Paul had 24 points and 15 assists and J.J. Redick added 20 points, leading the Los Angeles Clippers to a 101-94 victory over the New York Knicks on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Assistant Williams Not Returning This Season (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:12:27 GMT)

    Oklahoma City Thunder assistant coach Monty Williams, whose wife died in a car accident last month, will not return to the team this season, the team said on Friday.

  • [New York Times] Rubio Rescues Timberwolves, Sinks Thunder (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:54:31 GMT)

    The last time the Minnesota Timberwolves visited Oklahoma City, they were ran out of the gym. In the 20-point loss, coach Sam Mitchell left his young stars on the floor till the final buzzer so they would learn to hate the feeling of losing.

  • [New York Times] Magic Hold Off Kings 107-100 to End Three-Game Skid (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:45:43 GMT)

    Aaron Gordon had 20 points and 11 rebounds, and Victor Oladipo scored six of his 18 points during a 40-second stretch of the fourth quarter to help lead the Orlando Magic to a 107-100 win over the Sacramento Kings on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Snap 13-Game Losing Streak, Covington Carted Off Court (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:33:37 GMT)

    For the first time in more than a month, the Philadelphia 76ers won a game.

  • [New York Times] Stephenson Leads Grizzlies to 121-114 OT Win Over Pelicans (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:45:55 GMT)

    Lance Stephenson scored a career-high 33 points, Matt Barnes recorded a triple-double with 26 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists, and the Memphis Grizzlies defeated the New Orleans Pelicans 121-114 in overtime Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Mack Scores Career-High 27 as Jazz Beat Wizards 114-93 (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:42:49 GMT)

    Shelvin Mack scored a season-high 27 points as the Utah Jazz beat the Washington Wizards 114-93 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Rubio’s Late 3 Lifts Timberwolves Past Thunder, 99-96 (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:12:54 GMT)

    Ricky Rubio’s 3-pointer with 0.2 seconds remaining lifted the Minnesota Timberwolves to a 99-96 victory over the Oklahoma City Thunder on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Dragic Scores 26 as Heat Beat Bulls 118-96 (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:43:05 GMT)

    Goran Dragic scored a season-high 26 points, Josh Richardson added a career-high 22 and the Miami Heat used a big fourth quarter to beat the short-handed Chicago Bulls 118-96 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Sixers End 13-Game Losing Streak and Extend Nets’ Slide (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:40:56 GMT)

    The Philadelphia 76ers rookie center Jahlil Okafor will have season-ending surgery on his right knee.

  • [New York Times] Harden’s 32 Help Rockets End Celtics’ Home Streak 102-98 (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:27:56 GMT)

    James Harden scored 32 points, including Houston’s final eight, and the Rockets snapped the Boston Celtics’ 14-game home winning streak with a 102-98 victory on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Williams, Hornets Top Pistons 118-103 for 6th Straight Win (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:24:59 GMT)

    Hornets coach Steve Clifford continues to emphasize to his players it’s not just about winning games this time of the year — it’s about continuing to improve as the playoffs approach.

  • [New York Times] Clippers 101, Knicks 94: ‘In It to Win It,’ Says Phil Jackson, Vowing Knicks Revival (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:37:40 GMT)

    Jackson, the team president, discussed Carmelo Anthony, Kurt Rambis and free-agent possibilities in a rare news conference.

  • [New York Post] Phil Jackson’s PG plan: We don’t need star, watch for Wroten (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:45:42 -0500)

    LOS ANGELES — Phil Jackson said the Knicks need to add backcourt help in free agency, but that doesn't mean he's going to spend most of his cap space on a traditional point guard. The Knicks have $18 million in cap room for this offseason, but that could grow if Arron Afflalo ($8 million) and…

  • [New York Post] Despite Porzingis’ heroics, Knicks can’t upset Clippers (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:15:33 -0500)

    LOS ANGELES — The Knicks gave the Clippers a big scare in the second half Friday night behind a powerful surge from rookie Kristaps Porzingis. For the first time this season, Porzingis was more than aggressive in the final stages of a close game, but he failed to draw a couple of calls and his…

  • [New York Daily News] Phil Jackson wants Kurt Rambis back as Knicks coach (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:34:42 GMT)

    The triangle Phil Jackson envisions for the Knicks next season would still feature Carmelo Anthony and it would also include Kurt Rambis.

  • [New York Daily News] Porzingis, Knicks wilt down stretch of loss to Clippers (Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:14:16 GMT)

    Kristaps Porzingis’ first trip to Hollywood did not have the storybook ending.

  • 30 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.03.12)”

    If only:

    – We still had our draft pick this year, and losses like last night could have the double benefit of a great learning experience for Zinger and a possibly higher pick
    – We knew for sure that Rambis will never, ever coach the Knicks past this season, and that Phil will hire the best coach available, not someone “familiar with the Triangle”
    – Melo would realize that he’s not getting any rings with this team and sit down with Phil and discuss where he’d be willing to be traded to.

    If only…..

    So last night confirmed for us, for the umpteenth time, that the problem lies in the backcourt. KP, Melo and Lopez were all fine last night, and D-Will gave some energy and points off the bench.

    I think the Knicks starting guards were outscored by the starting Clips guards by about 42-11 or some such thing. And Galloway was 1/7 off the bench as the 3rd guard. So, yeah. The Knicks need 2 new starting guards with a bench of Grant, Calderon/Afflalo (only 1 at most should be here next season), and maybe Galloway (who has regressed this year, but still is worth having unless some other team wants to overpay him).

    I’ve decided to be okay with Rambis giving lots of minutes to Calderon and Sasha. All that is doing is ensuring losses like last night, which in turn ensures that Rambis will continue to have an awful record as interim coach and thus NOT get the gig next year.

    Melo’s minutes, however, are unconscionable and dangerous/damaging to the team going forward.

    d-mar, I’m thinking that Phil wants Luke Walton. Maybe he feels that he lost his #1 guy originally with Kerr and had to settle for Fisher, who maybe he never really fully believed in.

    However, if he cannot get him, I hope that he goes either Blatt or Thibs. At least get a veteran guy who is proven. I really believe that Dolan will not tolerate another season without the playoffs. Phil’s job may be on the line.

    Unless a light bulb suddenly appears over Rambis’s head, he’s showing that a retread triangle coach is no better (and perhaps worse) than a first-timer like Fisher.

    Everyone wants Melo to OK a trade, but nobody addresses the issue of what would be a good trade. Do we really think anyone is going to go higher than a salary dump, a rotation player, and a first rounder? Any team that wants Melo is in win now mode, so whatever pick we get back will be a late pick. So, we’d be tanking next year too and probably giving up on this years FA market. Is that really worth it? Wouldn’t it make more sense to bring in a solid 2 guard (Batum), and average PG and take a run at the playoffs next year? I know that’s a 6-8 seed team, but it beats tanking for the unknown.

    The harsh truth is, even if he waives the no trade, we will get less for Melo than we gave away for Bargnani.

    The harsh truth is, even if he waives the no trade, we will get less for Melo than we gave away for Bargnani.

    If true, that’s indicative of two things.

    1) The Bargnani trade was one of the worst trades in league history.
    2) The Carmelo Anthony contract is among the worst contracts in the NBA.


    Melo isn’t going anywhere. Hopefully we can grab one of Batum/Conley and one of Chalmers/Dudley/Lee to match the bigger signing. Batum and Chalmers would be awesome and probably improves the current Knicks by 10-18 games depending on Chalmer’s health. Conley and Dudley would be a homerun if we somehow manage to grab Conley without some super max contract. We need to avoid DeRozan and Jennings.

    @#2 – I agree a million times over, the Knicks backcourt is epically bad. It is very difficult to overcome this huge handicap every night and win games especially against the good teams.

    Yes, anything that gets Rambis replaced works for me

    Running Melo into the ground now serves no purpose. Let’s at least wait until Thibs is the coach, then it can be expected and explained.

    what would be a good trade

    A starter and another rotation player both under 26 and a first in the top 20. Anything less and I’d keep Melo who is still a very good player.

    I don’t think you guys are understanding the real issue.

    The point is to trade Melo before his health/production makes him untradable.

    We are not going to be contenders soon, so whats the point of one or two meaningless playoffs series for the future?

    I’m in for Batum and Chalmers, I wonder when Chalmers will be healthy.

    There are three more years left on Carmelo Anthony’s deal. He has pretty much sucked balls on the first two years of the five year deal, and so has the team. He’s played 100 games in two seasons, and has a thoroughly mediocre .529 TS% and .111 WS48. He’s gonna be 32 next season.

    The team is 44-105 over the last two seasons. There is one– count ’em, ONE good young player on the team with significant upside, there’s no 2016 draft pick and the upcoming free agent class doesn’t look like an exceptionally promising one for the Knicks. This team is not built to win now, it is not built to win later and it is stuck in a hopeless netherworld, with a zombie roster of Arron Afflalos and Jose Calderons and Derrick Williamses lurching through the season, playing an archaic brand of basketball that the rest of the NBA has rendered painfully obsolete.

    Yet there are still people who are worried about getting “equal value” for Carmelo Anthony, a fading “star” player who has been overrated his entire career, and who is about one more errant referee’s foot away from spending the rest of his contract on the bench in a suit. If you get anything in return for the last remaining fumes of Carmelo Anthony that resembles a long-term asset, you jump at the chance. We are talking about the man’s age 32-34 seasons here. The glory days of his unforgettable .560 TS% are probably not coming back, dudes. He is almost certain to get WORSE and MORE hobbled than he already is. It’s time for Phil Jackson to GAAAAH I JUST CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE FASDKJHW(*&DF&*^#JKHAE(*& KILL ME PLEASE

    Probably the most unnerving thing to come out since yesterday were the reports that the FO see Wroten as a starter for the 16/17 season and that they may not pursue a top flight PG. I mean yeah we don’t need an ‘elite’ PG (it would be great if we got that and should be gunning for it, but just someone who can shoot at a decent clip and play some lock down defence would be nice), but surely we can do better than potential than Tony Friggin Wrotten.

    If you get anything in return for the last remaining fumes of Carmelo Anthony that resembles a long-term asset, you jump at the chance. We are talking about the man’s age 32-34 seasons here.

    The Nets gave up every draft pick till eternity to acquire a 36 year old Paul Pierce and a 37 year old Kevin Garnett. And yes, I know, they’ve both had better careers than Anthony, but I think you’re wrong that we can’t get anything good for Melo.

    So guys, what do you do if the Toronto pick ends up being Ben Simmons?

    Honestly guys, there comes a time where being a fan becomes work, and this time I blame this site. The negativity is palpable. I have been a fan since the Ewing days, and yes, I long for the days when playing the Knicks was something other teams plannesd ahead for. But I am still a fan since Ewing was traded, and things have been worse than this.

    Sometimes being a fan is embracing subjectivity, optimism, and unrealistic hope. the environment around her has been toxic. Enjoy your negativity guys, I’m out for now.

    There’s no fucking way Toronto ends up with Ben Simmons.

    If they draft Buddy Hield, though, I’m gonna buy every Drake album ever and move to Toronto.

    Doesn’t Denver still have the right to swap picks with the Knicks (Raptors since they own the pick)?? So theoretically it will be the Nuggets and not the Raptors with the #1 pick if the Knicks pick wins the lottery correct??

    Doesn’t matter to me who that pick becomes. I’m mad we traded it, but it’s gone. If we don’t make the trade who knows what happens

    Are you sure they wouldn’t just choose Ingram?

    Also, Is Batum still a max FA? I have my doubts he’d even look at NY anyway.

    That season has a couple of what ifs. What if they don’t make the awful Bargs trade and in turn what if by not making that trade they do make the trade for Lowry since apparently Dolan vetoed the Lowry trade because of how awful the Bargs trade was.

    Or if they sign, like, anyone instead of Bargs. We missed the playoffs by a game that year, right? Maybe no Phil. Or maybe we don’t trade Tyson. Maybe Melo’s knee explodes in the playoffs. I mean yeah, it was really dumb to trade a pick that might be #1 for Bargs, but if we’d kept it wouldn’t have been the #1

    The Melo hate is dumb. He is coming off knee surgery. He will be way better next year scoring wise. Lol but as wetbandit said. Whatevs

    There’s reason to believe Melo will be better and that he won’t be better. He’s turning 32 in May, though. He’s not going to improve much past this season’s stats.

    And we better hope we can sell Batum on playing in New York with Melo, Porzingis, and his old buddy Robin Lopez. Batum would be perfect for us (despite his middling scoring efficiency).

    Just read an interesting factoid; Shaun Livingston’s 2016-2017 salary is only partially guaranteed. With the Harrison Barnes contract coming up for Golden State shortly (and then Curry’s mega deal next year), you guys think there’s any chance he gets cut? Since Conley is gonna get overpaid and Chalmers just tore an Achilles, I would love to sign Livingston to a deal. Imagine landing Livingston and Batum? We’d have the tallest starting 5 in basketball, and that’s triangular.

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