Knicks Morning News (2016.03.05)

  • [New York Post] The proof Kristaps Porzingis finally has hit the rookie wall (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 02:41:41 -0500)

    BOSTON — Knicks interim coach Kurt Rambis acknowledged rookie Kristaps Porzingis probably has become a step slower defensively because of the rookie wall, but said he doesn't believe the team's losing is shaking the 7-foot-3 Latvian's confidence or enthusiasm. Porzingis' failure to win Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month for February (Indiana's Myles Turner captured…

  • [New York Times] Hawks Get Balanced Scoring in Trampling Lakers 106-77 (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 07:06:36 GMT)

    First, Atlanta disrupted the Los Angeles Lakers defensively. Then the Hawks got their offense going, and it was all too overwhelming for the undermanned Lakers.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Nets Rally to Beat Nuggets in Overtime (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 05:16:39 GMT)

    Brook Lopez made a basket with 0.4 of a second left in overtime to clinch the Nets’ fifth win in a row over the Nuggets.

  • [New York Times] Lopez Tips in With .4 Seconds Left in OT, Nets Beat Nuggets (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 05:03:43 GMT)

    Brook Lopez had 20 points and tipped in a basket with .4 seconds left in overtime to lift the Brooklyn Nets over the Denver Nuggets 121-120 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Lebron Shines at Power Forward as Cavs Down Wizards (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 05:00:27 GMT)

    LeBron James had 19 points, 13 rebounds and seven assists while making his first start at power forward and Kyrie Irving had 21 points and eight assists in the Cleveland Cavaliers’ 108-83 victory over the Washington Wizards on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Powers Cavaliers to Easy 108-83 Win Over Wizards (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 04:51:32 GMT)

    LeBron James didn’t do anything cryptic or dramatic.

  • [New York Times] Randolph Leads Grizzlies to Victory Over Jazz (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 04:33:29 GMT)

    Zach Randolph scored 25 points and Lance Stephenson added 16 off the bench to lead the Memphis Grizzlies to a 94-88 victory Friday over the Utah Jazz at FedExForum.

  • [New York Times] Celtics 105, Knicks 104: Carmelo Anthony Misses, and a Bad Week Continues for Knicks (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 04:29:03 GMT)

    Anthony’s week began with an exchange of words with a heckler and on Friday he missed a potential game-winning shot at the buzzer.

  • [New York Times] Randolph Scores 25 to Lead Grizzlies Past Jazz 94-88 (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 04:12:42 GMT)

    Zach Randolph scored 25 points and grabbed four rebounds in the final minute to lead the Memphis Grizzlies past the Utah Jazz 94-88 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Antetokounmpo Leads Bucks to 116-101 Win Over Timberwolves (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 03:57:44 GMT)

    Giannis Antetokounmpo had 27 points, 12 assists and nine rebounds, and Khris Middleton scored 32 points in the Milwaukee Bucks’ 116-101 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] DeRozan Gets FT Record; Raptors Beat Lillard, Blazers (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 03:42:48 GMT)

    DeMar DeRozan set an NBA record by making 24 straight free throws on his way to a season-high 38 points and the Toronto Raptors overcame a huge game from Damian Lillard to beat the Portland Trail Blazers 117-115 on Friday night for their franchise-record 12th straight home win.

  • [New York Times] Late Layup Lifts Celtics Over Knicks 105-104 (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 03:24:48 GMT)

    Isaiah Thomas had 32 points and eight assists, Avery Bradley hit a go-ahead layup with 17.7 seconds left and the Boston Celtics extended their home winning streak to 13 games with a 105-104 win over the New York Knicks on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Whiteside, Wade Lead Heat Past 76ers 112-102 (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 02:51:54 GMT)

    Hassan Whiteside had 19 points and 19 rebounds, Dwyane Wade scored 21 points and the Miami Heat beat the Philadelphia 76ers 112-102 on Friday night for their fourth straight win.

  • [New York Times] Suns Beat Magic to End 17-Game Road Losing Streak (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 02:43:06 GMT)

    Alex Len scored a career-high 31 points and grabbed 15 rebounds Friday night, and the Phoenix Suns held the Orlando Magic scoreless for a 7 1/2-minute stretch to snap a 17-game road losing streak, 102-84 Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Walker, Batum Lead Hornets Over Pacers 108-101 (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 02:36:59 GMT)

    Kemba Walker scored 33 points and had 10 assists, Nicolas Batum added 31 points and the Charlotte Hornets defeated the Indiana Pacers 108-101 Friday night for their ninth win in the last 11 games.

  • [New York Times] Sports Business: Steven Ballmer, Clippers’ Top Fan, Is Really Invested in Them (for Billions) (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 00:27:11 GMT)

    Ballmer, the former Microsoft chief executive, is a creative owner and a screaming, trampoline-bouncing presence at the team’s games.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo, Knicks botch ending and fall to rallying Celtics (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 06:34:09 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony didn’t have to apologize for anything on Friday but the ending for him as well as the Knicks was sorry to say the least.

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo Anthony wants a way out of ‘rough patch’ with Knicks (Sat, 05 Mar 2016 06:11:19 GMT)

    A frustrated Carmelo Anthony admitted on Friday he needs to find a way out of the worst three-year stretch of his career.

  • 43 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2016.03.05)”

    Wait, Rambis played Jose, Arron & Melo 38+ on the front end of a back to back? Bruh

    Hey, listen. When you’re in contention like we are you have to play your horses. The kids and the future will just have to wait.

    You know, as much as I worry about Thibodeau’s reputation for running his players into the ground and wearing out his welcome with management, I’m all in on hiring him at this point. Give me an actual NBA coach who doesn’t make you scratch your head with playing time allocation, who doesn’t look perplexed at the end of games when he has no timeouts and can actually draw up a play for the end of the game that doesn’t involve a Melo heave.

    I really, really hope Phil goes after the best coach available, not another ex-Laker who “understands” the Triangle.

    What about the dude who coaches the Westies? They’re better than the real Knicks

    I am frustrated beyond belief. I’m just some guy that has spent about 10 years studying stats and gambling on the game after having being a fan for between 35-40 years before that. I know the game well, but I’m no super guru. I don’t have 24 hours a day to think about basketball. Right now I’m here sitting in my underwear with a cup of coffee on a Saturday morning reading the Knicks blogs and articles. It’s obvious to me that a good percentage of the fans know exactly how to fix this team. Yet our management and coaching staff does not. I’m sick. This is ridiculous.

    C’mon, guys. Who cares if Melo plays 38 minutes if he’s going to stand 30 feet from the basket and dribble until the clock runs out? He could go year-round!

    Mel-o! Mel-o! Mel-o!

    You know, as much as I worry about Thibodeau’s reputation for running his players into the ground and wearing out his welcome with management, I’m all in on hiring him at this point. Give me an actual NBA coach who doesn’t make you scratch your head with playing time allocation, who doesn’t look perplexed at the end of games when he has no timeouts and can actually draw up a play for the end of the game that doesn’t involve a Melo heave.

    But if Thibs runs players into the ground, wouldn’t that make you scratch your head at the playing time allocation?

    I’d guess that Phil is going to try to get Luke Walton. He whiffed on his first choice 2 years ago. He needs to connect this time. His future depends on it. I’d guess that Dolan gives Phil just 1 more year to make the playoffs…

    So, Melo is 2/22 in late clutch shots in the last few years. Does that surprise anyone? And yet Reggie Miller referred to him as a “closer” in the last Detroit broadcast. Hilarious.

    when Melo got here he was the best clutch scorer in the NBA. Once you get a rep it tends to stick, even if you play too many minutes and you take nothing but long contested shots at the buzzer

    Who, right now, would the Knicks be favored to beat on a neutral court? Phoenix, the Lakers, Minny, and Philly?

    But if Thibs runs players into the ground, wouldn’t that make you scratch your head at the playing time allocation?

    Well, at least when Thibs was doing it, his team was in the playoff mix and trying to move up in the seedings. So there was some rationale, as opposed to our current situation.

    Well, at least when Thibs was doing it, his team was in the playoff mix and trying to move up in the seedings. So there was some rationale, as opposed to our current situation.

    I’m actually all for Thibs. I think he’s a great coach. It’s funny, Thibs is probably a bit of a dick and I think D’Antoni was also a bit of a dick, but I at least appreciated that D’Antoni was a smart coach. I miss having a coach where I thought, “Oh, our coach is smarter than their coach” a goodly amount of times a year. It hasn’t been like that since D’Antoni. And before him, not since Van Gundy (by the time he got here, Brown was no longer the same guy he was in Indy/Philly/Detroit). Dolan is the worst.

    Since Van Gundy…

    Chaney was a joke.
    Herb was a joke.
    Lenny Wilkins was washed up (he used to be a good coach, but by the time he got here, he was totally phoning it in).
    Herb was a joke the second time.
    Larry Brown was a lot like Jackson, more concerned about his power trips than actually coaching the team.
    Isiah was sadly one of the better coaches on this list, but was also still bad.
    D’Antoni was good in terms of coming up with a great offensive system (it says a lot that the next guy just took it completely) but he alienated his players
    Woodson opened up well enough by sucking up to Melo (and I honestly mean that as a compliment – it was just smart coaching) and just using D’Antoni’s offense, but once he lost the personnel, he was mediocre. Shit…Woodson might actually be the second best coach on this list.
    Fisher was awful
    Rambis is awful

    This is a cursed team under Dolan.

    Within a year of winning an NBA title Larry Brown was trading Trevor Ariza for the fat, chalky corpse of Steve Francis in order to form maybe the least likeable backcourt in NBA history. That shit was unbelievable. Of all the stupid fucking Knicks trades I’ve lived through I think that one made me the angriest.

    @12 Brian do you think Thibs is going to change on his minutes allocations? I also think he’s a great coach but that’s a red flag for me. I’d worry about KP being effectively done at 30 like Joakim Noah.

    @14 and then the Knicks shipped out Stevie Franchise and Channing Frye for Zach Randolph. Remember when Zbo was a Knick? Good times.

    I remember that deal more because I was just thrilled that it didn’t involve David Lee. There were multiple years when I was just waiting for/fearing the stupid “David Lee for washed up vet #1” stories to be announced. Every draft and every trade deadline, that was my big fear.

    That Lee trade was pretty good, no? Even if none of the guys really panned out – I think Cuttino Mobley took a medical retirement because of a heart condition, Kelenna Azuibuike tore his patellar tendon and that ultimately ended his career, and Anthony Randolph was LOL ANTHONY RANDOLPH – it was a good haul.

    Mobley was traded for Randolph.

    The other player obtained from the Lee trade was Ronny Turiaf, who actually started at center for some of the season he was in NY (and had an infectiously awesome personality). But he was the throw in. It was supposed to be Azubuke and Randolph with the upside.

    That Lee trade was pretty good, no? Even if none of the guys really panned out – I think Cuttino Mobley took a medical retirement because of a heart condition, Kelenna Azuibuike tore his patellar tendon and that ultimately ended his career, and Anthony Randolph was LOL ANTHONY RANDOLPH – it was a good haul.

    Once they decided to not re-sign Lee, it was an excellent deal. Of course it would have been better had Walsh thought to check with D’Antoni to see if D’Antoni had any interest in Randolph being on the team first. But I was referring to the Lee trade rumors from back when he was on his rookie contract and an amazing value.

    @12 Brian do you think Thibs is going to change on his minutes allocations? I also think he’s a great coach but that’s a red flag for me. I’d worry about KP being effectively done at 30 like Joakim Noah.

    I mean, it’s definitely a big knock on Thibs, just like Van Gundy’s offenses were always a knock on Van Gundy, but they both make up for that problem with their other excellent attributes.

    Yo, Anthony Randolph is 26 years old. How crazy is that.

    Nah, we need to wait until he’s in his 30s and a “true veteran presence in the locker room.”

    @20 Reminiscing about that all-too-short Donnie Walsh era… I’m thinking about how many times “in a fit of pique, Dolan…” can be applied to anything that happens to this team.

    My impression of Thibodeau is that he’s monomaniacal. Like, it would have been easier to convince Ahab to forget the whale than it will be to convince Thibodeau to ever consider a picture that’s at all bigger than the single game his team is playing. If you look closely at some of his choices, it’s hard not to see him that way.

    Not only is that bad for the minutes he plays his best players, but it’s bad for the development of younger players, who don’t get minutes under TT unless you give him no other options. People give TT credit for the development of CHI’s draft picks, but really, he played Jimmy Butler played 359 minutes his rookie year, and Noah and Rose and the rest of the younger players on that one high point for the Bulls all were playing quite near what would be their prime levels by the time Thibodeau took over.

    On the off chance the Knicks decide to follow a plan that could lead to a title and bring in some young players, TT is going to bend over backwards to keep them off the floor. The Knicks need a coach who can get on board with a long term plan, and TT is the opposite of that.

    Talking about developing his versatility, Rambis says he “can eventually see (Porzingis) at the 3 spot some.

    I mean, can this motherfucker already.

    #firerambis

    So, Melo is 2/22 in late clutch shots in the last few years

    This is wrong off the top of my head. I remember the game tying 3 against Utah last year and lead taking 3 against philly this year. And that fadeaway last night

    GTFOH if you don’t want Thibs as the next head coach of the Knicks. He is BY FAR the best coach available (if you dont count JVG). Hell he is BY FAR one of the best basketball coaches on the planet period. The Bulls are really doing great now w/o him…

    This is wrong off the top of my head. I remember the game tying 3 against Utah last year and lead taking 3 against philly this year. And that fadeaway last night

    I didn’t see where the 2-22 came from, but here are the bigger sample size clutch numbers for Melo. These include all shots with less than 5 minutes to go and the game within 5.

    2015-16:
    FG: 21-60 (35% )

    Cumulative as a Knick from 2011:
    FG: 143-383 (37%)

    And within just the final minute:

    2015-16:
    FG: 7-19 (37%)

    As a Knick from 2011
    FG: 37-137 (27%)

    Talking about developing his versatility, Rambis says he “can eventually see (Porzingis) at the 3 spot some.

    I mean, can this motherfucker already.

    #firerambis

    Okay, now Rambis has gone too far. I could almost see that, though, to be honest, as a sort of, “Fuck you all! The old ways still work! They still work!!!!!!!”

    Why do people think Jeff Van Gundy would be a great coach in today’s league? It’s been like fifteen years since he had to draw a player with anything on the line.

    I wonder if there is an even worse coach from the ’87 Lakers that we don’t even know about yet?

    1987 Lakers, by coaching record:

    Byron Scott: .415
    Magic Johnson: .313
    Michael Cooper: .286
    Kurt Rambis: .276

    The Knicks need a coach who can get on board with a long term plan, and TT is the opposite of that.

    So let me get this straight: bad coaches play bad players too much, and bad coaches play good players too much; good coaches play bad players just enough to win championships, and good coaches play good players only enough to win championships. That’s it?

    That ridiculous matrix not withstanding, I think the criticism of Thibodeau is extremely silly. I don’t think that Thibodeau broke his basketball players by making them play basketball. Noah’s season didn’t end early because he played too many minutes back in 2013. It ended because he sustained a shoulder injury in 2016.

    Tom Thibodeau has a .647 winning%. That places him #5 all time behind Phil Jackson, Billy Cunningham, Gregg Popovich, and Red Auerbach.

    The Bulls team he coached was never one of the best rosters in the league. He maximized what he had, the way all great coaches do. That was his job, and he did it extraordinarily well.

    Its been 9 years since JVG has been a head coach. If you listen to him in interviews talking about what he has learned about coaching, especially analytics, in the time since he last coached and what he knows he would have to improve as a head coach he will be a fantastic hire for any team. He is a great game analyst but alot of that has to do with the fact he is a funny, witty guy who is a blast to listen to. But he does many interviews for podcasts and radio shows where he really breaks down stuff and he is fascinating to listen to. Not to mention his memory is incredible, whenever he talks about his Knick coaching days he recalls specific games and even plays like it happened yesterday.

    Van Gundy showed some willingness to adapt to the times with his Houston team. Their offense was not terrible and they shot the three ball a goodly amount for the time (7th in the league).

    Okay, cool. I’m on-board. Does it mean Rambis and Jackson are both fired? Cos then I’m definitely on-board.

    Sidenote: Cronin good call on Washington they can jump to the 8th seed tonight with some help. If only your good Knicks prediction worked out. 🙂

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