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Knicks Morning News (2017.03.28)

  • [ESPN] Tuesday’s Knicks News: Noah hopes to begin suspension on Wednesday
    (Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:01:25 AM)

    Tuesday’s Knicks News: Noah hopes to begin suspension on Wednesday

  • [ESPN] Jeff Hornacek: Knicks will look to upgrade defense in free agency, draft
    (Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:15:39 AM)

    Jeff Hornacek: Knicks will look to upgrade defense in free agency, draft

  • [SNY Knicks] GEICO SportsNite: Carmelo Anthony weighs in on Joakim Noah’s ban
    (Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:55:04 AM)

    Carmelo Anthony talks about Joakim Noah facing the consequences for being suspended due to the NBA’s anti-drug policy.

  • [SNY Knicks] Anthony scores 21 in return to lineup as Knicks beat Pistons
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 10:06:17 PM)

    Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis and Derrick Rose combined for 73 points as the New York Knicks beat the Detroit Pistons, 109-95, Monday at Madison Square Garden.

  • [SNY Knicks] Noah to be re-evaluated, Thomas’ MRI comes back clean
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 6:12:08 PM)

    The New York Knicks will re-evaluate forward Joakim Noah’s status to see if he is medically cleared to practice and begin serving his suspension.

  • [SNY Knicks] Hernangomez knows he has to improve defensively
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 1:00:49 PM)

    Knicks C Willy Hernangomez has been a soild offensive contributor but knows he needs to improve defensively.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks interested in Kansas F Josh Jackson
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 9:55:58 AM)

    With the NBA Draft just a few months away, the Knicks are reportedly interested in drafting Kansas combo forward Josh Jackson.

  • [NYDN] Knicks win, but fall behind Magic and Sixers in NBA Draft Lottery
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 9:45:41 PM)

    The Knicks have delayed the inevitable for at least two more nights.

  • [NYDN] Knicks’ Joakim Noah could start his suspension on Wednesday
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 8:40:04 PM)

    Joakim Noah could begin his 20-game suspension for failing a drug test by Wednesday, meaning he could miss just 12 games next season

  • [NYDN] Jeff Hornacek addresses Knicks’ defensive woes
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 4:52:19 PM)

    The focus on the wishy-washy triangle has detracted from New York’s greatest encumbrance this season: the awful defense.

  • [NYDN] Stan Van Gundy makes pitch for Patrick Ewing to coach Georgetown
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 4:14:29 PM)

    Stan Van Gundy thinks Patrick Ewing is the perfect hire for Georgetown.

  • [NYDN] Porzingis, Hernangomez tandem best thing Knicks have going on now
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 11:58:16 AM)

    If things work out the way the Knicks hope, these two Europeans will be tethered together for quite some time as a big men tandem.

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks anxious to get Joakim Noah back on court
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 11:44:46 PM)

    When Joakim Noah underwent knee surgery four weeks ago, there was hope — however faint — that he’d be able to suit up for the Knicks again this season. He could very well be ready if they made a playoff push, the Knicks said at the time, holding on to that fading glimmer of possibility.

  • [NYTimes] The N.B.A.’s Best Games to Watch as the Playoff Races Tighten
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 6:07:45 PM)

    Cleveland is at San Antonio on Monday, Golden State is at Houston on Tuesday and Golden State is at San Antonio on Wednesday.

  • [NYTimes] Spurs 103, Cavaliers 74: LeBron James Leaves With Injury as Cavaliers Lose Top Spot in East
    (Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:20:14 AM)

    James left the game after being elbowed in the back in the third quarter, and the Cavaliers slipped behind the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference.

  • [NYTimes] Only Ambiguity Remaining for the Knicks Is Where They Go From Here
    (Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:37:56 AM)

    An 0-4 trip in which Carmelo Anthony didn’t play the final two games extinguished their faint playoff hopes. The long-term view is the team’s only concern.

  • [NYPost] Knicks finally show the kind of heart NCAA brought to Garden
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 9:56:35 PM)

    Perhaps some of the residue from last weekend’s NCAA East Regional rubbed off on the Knicks after South Carolina used their locker room while earning its first ever trip to the Final Four. Watching a bunch of college kids playing with heart and passion in games where every point and possession mattered was exhilarating. Cheers…

  • [NYPost] Carmelo opens up on Noah ban: I’m more into African herbs
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 8:29:32 PM)

    Carmelo Anthony said he goes au naturel when it comes to boosts for his body, saying he’s into “African herbs.’’ In the wake of Joakim Noah’s 20-game ban for taking a supplement that contained Androgen, a banned ingredient that works like an anabolic steroid, Anthony was asked if he takes supplements. “I’m more of a…

  • [NYPost] Knicks rookie’s slump could cost him chance to represent country
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 8:10:05 PM)

    With his midseason dip, there could be a movement by Knicks brass to foil Mindaugas Kuzminskas’ grand plan of playing for the Lithuanian national team in the prestigious European Championships. The national team’s training camp begins in late July. The event starts in late August, brushing close to the start of NBA training camp. Kuzminskas…

  • [NYPost] It all comes together for Knicks’ big three (to mess up their tank)
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 6:00:01 PM)

    See? Pride means more than pingpong balls. Just not to Knicks fans. Staring playoff elimination in the face — yeah, it only seems like they’ve been doing that since December — the Knicks lived for another game, at least, dropping the fading Pistons, 109-95, at the Garden on Monday. “It was kind of a must…

  • [NYPost] The Knicks are hectically rushing Joakim Noah ‘back’
    (Monday, March 27, 2017 4:08:28 PM)

    The Knicks can’t wait for center Joakim Noah to practice again. With an urgency to get his drug-suspension clock to start ticking, Noah huddled with Knicks doctors Monday night in an attempt to get him to be cleared for Tuesday’s practice. If cleared, the Knicks will lobby for the NBA to have his 20-game suspension…

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    97 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2017.03.28)

    1. Frank

      Crazy that Cleveland is now behind Boston for the #1 seed. I hate Boston.

      Obviously we have no idea how the final lottery order would shake out, but a team that makes a lot of sense for Malik Monk is Philly. Presumably they will be running offense through Ben Simmons when he is back, and so Monk can play off the ball on offense and guard PGs.

      Re: Monk and to a lesser extent Fox — wonder how much their “PG stock” was hurt by Calipari having the ball in Briscoe’s hands most of the time.

    2. Accidentank 2017

      At pick #6 Dennis Smith Jr should be available. I wouldn’t be mad at that at all.

    3. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Yeah Monk is exactly what Philly needs and they should take him other things being equal but if they’re picking at 6-8 they should be going for BPA. Ntilikina could work for them too, as could Isaac as a small ball PF, and I think they’re both better than Monk.

    4. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Also if we take Hornacek’s word at face value and are valuing defensive players in the upcoming draft that predisposes us to picking the best players we have a shot at in Fox, Isaac, Ntilikina, and maybe Jackson. That’s comforting.

      Of course Phil will change course after a workout with Monk because Triangle.

    5. sugarslim5

      Fans and media was thinking that the Knicks were playing for the draft. Just trying to figure out the triangle, I expect alot of winning now that their figuring it out alongside the improving defense.
      LMAO, same dudes coming back next season.

    6. Mike Kurylo Post author

      But then I realized that he cares so much about basketball that he tries his literal hardest, and his literal hardest was not good enough to win in the Elite Eight of the NCAA tournament, and really what I want is a guy who plays at 70% of his ability level so I can coach and motivate him to be the very best he can possibly be, so I decided that I don’t want the Knicks to draft him, because he is a loser at 100% capacity.

      I don’t want someone who operates at 70% doing any job, nevertheless play basketball. If you can’t play a game that will net you millions of dollars, fame, and women (or men), at 100% then you’ll never play it at 100%. No matter who the coach is. I’m sure the NBA draft failures are littered with guys that were 7 feet tall, but could care less about actually playing a game, nevertheless winning one, or winning a championship.

      This is true with pretty much anything in life. At my current job, I’ve seen guys go through the motions. They’re able to do the tasks, but they rather be doing something else. Heck I’ve managed a few, and it’s not fun. When you go over to coach them up, they’ll look like they want to learn & improve, but while they’re smiling they’re thinking of that other thing they’d rather be doing and go back to their old selves. Of course that makes them indistinguishable from the ones that do want to improve, which is even more frustrating.

      I don’t want anyone that can’t play 100% to get into the NBA. Because almost certainly, they’ll play at that same lackadaisical way when they do make it.

      /rant

    7. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      On my job you had guys who had to work at 100% just to keep from being totally overwhelmed by the workload. The ones who were really talented could operate at below 70% while getting the same job done albeit more efficiently and still be able to rise to the occasions that most could not rise to. It’s not always about maximum effort but rather innate ability.

    8. thenoblefacehumper

      I’d be fine with the 6 pick but the margins are getting pretty slim. We’re still just one full game back of the eighth pick. No more winning!

    9. Hubert

      I was afraid we’d win that game. Eastern Conference teams on the bubble coming to the Garden are proving to be our demise. Indiana and Detroit are in the books, Miami and Chicago are coming up.

      It really makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside that Derrick Rose gunning for a mega contract is likely going to cost us a top 5 pick. Only thing that could make it worse is if he plays us out of the top 5 and we sign him to a four year deal based on his late season surge.

      Wait, that’s obviously what is going to happen. Sigh.

    10. djphan

      i think we def want to be top 5 if we want to have a definitive shot at the pgs.. tatum and isaac are nice but it’s going to be tough landing a good pg otherwise….

    11. Hubert

      Looking down the list…

      v Miami
      @ Miami
      v Boston
      v Chicago
      v Washington
      @ Memphis
      v Toronto
      v Philadelphia

      It’s critical to get swept by the Heat. That Chicago games looms as a potential win. And we’re obviously going to play our hearts out on the last game of the season and beat Philly.

      I have faith in Boston, Washington, Memphis, and Toronto.

      That takes us to 30. I don’t think we can afford 31.

    12. DRed

      Wow, Miami has gone over their vegas win total. Never thought that was going to happen after the first 6 weeks of the season. I think they’ll be a live opponent for whoever they get in the first round if they make the playoffs.

    13. Z-man

      (I posted this at the end of the last thread…should have been on this one.)

      I wonder if this draft is similar to the 2015 draft in that there is not much advantage drafting higher. With the exception of KAT, and maybe KP if he plays like he did last night, the best players were not in the top 10. Sometimes it seems that teams get boxed in to drafting certain guys due to draft position and hype. Personally, I don’t see any sure-fire difference-makers in this draft beyond maybe Fultz, Ball and Jackson, although even those guys have some question marks. Tatum, Fox, Monk, Smith, etc. are just too young to predict (as are lots of guys from 2015 to this day).

      I think that we will be in position to draft the best player from this draft not taken in the top-3. I doubt that in hindsight we will be pining over losing out on Fox. It’s just as likely that we are regretting that we didn’t have a lower seed and wound up with Isaac, Frank or Bridges. Or that we didn’t roll the dice on Markkanen. So I’m not going to get too wrapped up in wins like this one.

    14. Hubert

      Orlando:

      v OKC
      @ Bos
      @ Bkn
      @ Cle
      v Bkn
      v Ind
      @ Chi
      v Det

      It’s hard to find three wins in there. I think we have to accept finishing behind these guys.

      Philadelphia:

      @ Bkn
      v Atl
      @ Cle
      @ Tor
      v Bkn
      v Chi
      v Mil
      v Ind
      @ NY

      This is the race. There are some winnable games in there. Gotta hope they pull some out and we draft ahead of them.

    15. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      @15

      I think this draft has players that showed decidedly more than Okafor, Winslow, Johnson, Hezonja, etc. did. That being said, yeah, I think this draft is stacked insofar as I think there’s two or three surefire all stars and then lots of players who *could* be amazing. This draft has a high ceiling and an average floor relative to other drafts. 2015 was just really top heavy (aka Towns and everyone else.)

      It’s also important to note that the dynamic no defense scorers from the 2015 class are the ones who have most underperformed so far relative to their draft position (Okafor, Russell, Mudiay.) I think we should be cautious with people like Smith and Tatum (who plays adequate defense but is largely reliant on scoring for his productivity.)

    16. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I don’t want anyone that can’t play 100% to get into the NBA. Because almost certainly, they’ll play at that same lackadaisical way when they do make it.

      I was being sarcastic… everyone knows I hate the “potential > production” argument : (

    17. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      ~i think we def want to be top 5 if we want to have a definitive shot at the pgs.. tatum and isaac are nice but it’s going to be tough landing a good pg otherwise~

      Ntilikina is a pg too.

    18. TheOakmanCometh

      Critical game for Philly today at the improved Nets. We need Philly to win this one to get up to 28 wins.

    19. Z-man

      I think this draft has players that showed decidedly more than Okafor, Winslow, Johnson, Hezonja, etc. did.

      Not sure I agree, these guys (and this draft overall, especially for PG prospects) are getting plenty of hype and most have not shown much to indicate a clear path to stardom. And in 2015, Winslow was hyped on NCAA performance and D, and Mudiay was an “if he only learns to shoot” guy without major defensive red flags. Fox has potential, but his defense may not translate to the next level, and his offense has one major red flag and a couple of minor ones.

      Will Fox be better than Frank? Who knows?
      Will Josh Jackson be better than Justin Jackson? Who knows?
      Will Tatum be better than Isaac? Who knows?
      Will Markkanen or Bridges be better than all of them? Who knows?

      This draft is maybe more of a crap shoot than 2015, and I still think many of the 2015 crop will develop into good to great players. In this draft, there are lots of tweeners, one-trick ponies, and raw athletes with serious flaws. Trading down might not be a bad idea, or rolling the dice on a high-ceiling guy like Isaac.

      I’d love to know who the Spurs would pick at #3-5

    20. Ingmarrr

      @16 it’s not about schedule, it’s about commitment to tanking. Orlando is committed. I’m not sure what the hack the Knicks thinking is.

    21. Accidentank 2017

      Last night was dumb as hell, but dumb as hell has been frequently associated with the Knicks. It was good to see KP have a good game and take advantage of his height, but he could have done that with Ron Baker on court instead of Derrick Rose.

    22. bobneptune

      On my job you had guys who had to work at 100% just to keep from being totally overwhelmed by the workload. The ones who were really talented could operate at below 70% while getting the same job done albeit more efficiently and still be able to rise to the occasions that most could not rise to. It’s not always about maximum effort but rather innate ability.

      I just have 2 words for you:

      Lawrence Taylor!

      When you mix great athletic talent with a relentless motor you get Lawrence Taylor or Michael Jordan. When you mix slightly less talent with the same motor you get John Stockton or Steve Nash.

      When you mix otherworldly talent with a shitty motor you get Derrick Coleman….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpP39q31N3o

    23. Accidentank 2017

      And don’t look now, but Derrick Rose has a TS% of .530. This guy really might play us out of the top 10 if he gets hot.

    24. Zanzibar

      Phil selected 23yo Jerian and now 22yo Willy in the draft. That suggests to me he’ll be looking for the most NBA-ready player since he’s not gonna want to leave after 5 miserable losing seasons. I know, I know… what about KP? Well I think Jax wanted to pick WCS but Gaines was really pushing Zinger. He did hire the guy so it would have been hard to go against his recommendation. Also I don’t think trading pick for a player is a viable option given Knick history even though Phil might be tempted to do it.

      So who is the most NBA-ready player?

    25. Hugo Busto

      the projected top 10 are all freshman so I think PHIL is going to have to go with a youngin

    26. djphan

      this draft is way more top heavy than 2015… 2015 was pretty deep through the first rd… but there were maybe only a handful of elite prospects going in…

      this year it’s pretty top heavy and it goes at least 8 deep… and they all would’ve been top 3 in just about any other draft.. and they all have arguments to be top 3 in this draft…. that’s what makes it unique… after the top 8 or 9 it kind of falls off a cliff….

    27. MSA

      this draft is way more top heavy than 2015… 2015 was pretty deep through the first rd… but there were maybe only a handful of elite prospects going in…

      this year it’s pretty top heavy and it goes at least 8 deep… and they all would’ve been top 3 in just about any other draft.. and they all have arguments to be top 3 in this draft…. that’s what makes it unique… after the top 8 or 9 it kind of falls off a cliff….

      I don’t know.

      Every couple of years we have a “top heavy” draft with several players that “could be top 3 in any draft”.

      The reality is that even in loaded drafts like this one only a couple of players seems to be franchise players and then you have several role players/busts.

      If we are not getting a top-5 pick I’m totally fine with trading down.

      Could be our first for 2 Portland’s firsts or Sacramento’s worse pick + WCS for exemple.

      We are so far from being half-decent that we should increase our chances with multiple picks or getting young players under rookie contract that are already putting decent numbers.

      Going for a home run usually doesn’t work out.

    28. SJK

      Sixers play at BKN tonight and the Nets are somehow favored -3. We reeaaalllyy need the sixers to pull that one out.

    29. djphan

      Every couple of years we have a “top heavy” draft with several players that “could be top 3 in any draft”.

      i mean yeah that’s true but that’s usually because you have a lot of pundits throwing their opinion in the ring… this year is always ‘special’ to them…

      a guy like fox or smith… is better than russell… ball is probably a russell level prospect… and tatum and even isaac is better than a guy like stanley johnson or winslow… that doesn’t make anyone a sure thing or that they’ll even be better than them… but they are better than those guys were when they were drafted…. and that should tell you how good they are…

    30. JK47

      a guy like fox or smith… is better than russell… ball is probably a russell level prospect… and tatum and even isaac is better than a guy like stanley johnson or winslow…

      Fox and Smith look like better prospects than Russell now maybe, because we’ve seen Russell play in the NBA for two years. But D-Russ was a pretty nice player at Ohio State, and had better numbers across the board than either Fox or Smith. Russell was a better prospect coming out of college than either of those two guys in my opinion.

      Fox just seems like a guy to me who is going to struggle to maintain a .500 TS% in the NBA.

    31. djphan

      russell came out with a 2p fg% of .479 while smith and fox both are well north of that on more volume… they both also have higher steal rates… russell was a better 3pt shooter and rebounder… but that’s about it…

      and yes russell was a nice player in college and a fine prospect.. he was a B to B+ and ive compared him to ray allen with some pg ability… but he’s an example of why having a 2p fg% north of .500 is important.. his 2p fg% is .446 in the pros and he’s had to make up for it by shooting a lot of 3s…

      fox and smith are better getting to the basket and drawing fouls… that’s way better than what russell demonstrated as a 3pt shooter and reflects the issues russell has now… once russell starts driving more successfully… he’ll be a star i have no doubt.. but he hasn’t done it yet and so he’s still struggling… fox/smith don’t have as big a question mark in that regard…

    32. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      @34

      I think Russ’ production in college was largely predicated on scoring (he had solid overall numbers tho) and he played no defense, so I’d be less skeptical about Fox at least because he plays defense and his numbers are similar-ish besides scoring from range, which is the worst thing to project future productivity on. Plus eye test wise he just seems more capable, both as a pnr guy and transition guy. And like DJPhan said, I think that 2pt% is probably the more salient indicator than shooting overall, though I don’t have any data to back that up.

      But yeah, Russell was significantly more productive in college than Fox, but productivity in college is really not that great of an indicator of NBA productivity, and is only a decision point for me when other things are held equal. Or that’s how I see it, at least.

    33. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      Dennis Smith Jr. has declared for the draft and said “The time is now.”
      Is it time for a NY Anklebreaker?

    34. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Is it time for a NY Anklebreaker?

      If so, we can only pray that it happens to Rose’s ankle first.

    35. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      Harry Giles declared today. Looking at this video of him at age 16 I think I like his talent more than Jackson or Isaac. But those knees. If we could trade Melo for a mid 1st pick I’d take a chance on him and draft a PG with our higher pick.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1LjwDQXfM

    36. Accidentank 2017

      Harry Giles was a huge reason this draft class was so highly touted. If he were healthy this year (and he still put up really good per minute numbers) he would have without a doubt been the Celtics pick. He’s just a dominant human being; when he played in the U18 Olympics as a 17 year old it was clear as day he was a cheat code. If his knees check out I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the top 10 to Minnesota. He’s that good when he’s healthy, and he’s only turning 19 next month. I’d love if we could Jerian Grant our way into his services. Giles, Hernangomez, and Porzingis would be an excellent front court rotation.

    37. Accidentank 2017

      Man, a healthy Harry Giles would go a long way towards fixing our team’s problems. He’s a freak on the glass and he’s quick enough to stay with perimeter oriented forwards. He can play the 5 offensively and the 4 defensively. KP is best playing the exact opposite.

      I’d take Harry Giles over everyone in this draft if those knees checked out. This season was rough because he had a clean up surgery right before the season, so he needed this year to really rest and get right. When he’s healthy, nobody can deal with him. It sucks when something like that keeps a player from excelling. He’s Kevin Garnett’s clone. An NBA program will being him along slowly, but if he ended up next to KAT or in Toronto that would be unfair. I don’t see a way he falls out of the top 20, though. He’s gonna come in for workouts and just abuse people.

    38. nicos

      You want to talk about a high risk, high reward lottery pick. I wouldn’t be shocked if he went top ten- maybe Sacto with multiple picks might roll the dice. If the Knicks wind up at 6 or later would you trade down with Portland with the hope that he’d be available with one of their picks?

    39. Accidentank 2017

      Absolutely. I think if we had Portland’s picks we could get Frank Ntilikina AND Harry Giles. I’d take that all day every day. Harry Giles is a freak of nature and he’s a guy who plays with 100% effort at all times. I would watch Duke games and I would think to myself that Duke’s perimeter players consistently missed him under the basket. I think he could have put up better numbers if he didn’t go to such a loaded Duke team. Harry Giles is the most talented player in this draft. It’s just those knees need to check out before he can dominate.

    40. SJK

      Yeah, if you’re looking for someone who’s gonna shoot up drafts boards as we get closer to June, Giles is the pick. If his knees check out with NBA doctors I can see him going top 10 no question.

      I wouldn’t pick him with our pick though, only if we were able to get another pick. Just too much a risk medically and there are too many other high-ceiling guys at other positions of need (i.e. every single position).

    41. Accidentank 2017

      http://www.draftexpress.com/article/dennis-smith-nba-draft-scouting-report-and-video-analysis-5836/

      This article (and strength video) shows that Dennis Smith Jr is actually a very good on ball defender. These kids need to commit to programs where playing defense matters. It doesn’t surprise me that DeAaron Fox played the best defense this year of any pro guard prospect; he played for the best team and good defense wasn’t wasted. I’m not taking away from Fox, either, because he would have been the best defensive guard in a number of drafts. But when you play for Washington and NC State (or Oklahoma City), you kinda have to conserve your juice for offense. Even still, DSJr has some impressive film where he’s playing defense this year.

    42. SJK

      This article (and strength video) shows that Dennis Smith Jr is actually a very good on ball defender. These kids need to commit to programs where playing defense matters.

      The problem with that, as it relates to us, is that the Knicks might be the least committed to defense franchise in the entire NBA–bottom 5 for sure. I can’t see any way Dennis Smith becomes a great defender playing for us. That said, he’s such a freak athlete that it’s probably still worth taking him if he’s there at picks 6 or 7-10. I’d still definitely rather have Fox though.

    43. Accidentank 2017

      Harry Giles answers a big need for us if he’s healthy though (which is a big if and we can’t miss this year, so I understand passing on him). He will lock up any power forward and then rebound at an elite level to make up for KP. He’s a more mobile, more athletic version of Willy Hernangomez when healthy. Imagine a healthy Harry Giles next to KAT, Whiteside, or even our Porzingis?

      If we pick 6th then end up with Ntilikina or Isaac, we should definitely trade Melo for Love and ship Love to Thibs in exchange for Rubio and their pick. Pick Giles there and watch Randle, Ntilikina, Baker, and Giles win a Summer League championship.

    44. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      Giles could be the best player in this draft and might go at #20. We shouldn’t let that happen. I’d trade Melo or O’Quinn to get him.

    45. Accidentank 2017

      @46, I meant in college. He didn’t play defense because he needed to be super man on offense for the Wolfpack. Watch the strength video and see how good he is when he played defense. In New York, his job would be to penetrate, feed the beasts down low, maybe play off Melo, and play good perimeter defense night in and night out. I believe in his ability to play defense as a pro. He has the lateral quickness a lot of guys don’t have. Derrick Rose, for all of his athletic gifts, can’t even move like DS Jr.

    46. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      @46 I actually read that Dennis the Anklebreaker actually possesses an extra knee ligament and that’s why he recovered so quickly from his knee surgery. Could it be so?

    47. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      @49

      What was an issue for smith even before he got to college was that while his defense was good when he was locked in, he fell asleep far too often and provided awful help defense and is fairly low iq on that end. It wasn’t even an effort thing so much as an awareness issue

      I think he has the tools to be a good on ball defender despite his size limitations, but he’s gotta fix the stuff going on between his ears to leverage that effectively.

    48. nicos

      We’d have to trade WHG to get a pick high enough to snag Giles. Maybe KOQ gets you something at the end of the first round but if he had mid-first round value Phil would certainly have moved him at the deadline. And he has less value now that he can opt out at the end of next year. Melo ain’t yielding Love- if they want to get rid of Love they’ll almost certainly get offers better than Melo. Bron and Melo are friends but LBJ isn’t stupid- if he thought Melo was the answer that deal would already have gotten done. The other two likely landing places for Melo are the Clips and Washington but neither has a first round pick this year. As I said, you could probably trade down with Portland but you’d either be taking him 12 (big risk) or hoping he drops to 20 (which I doubt as long as his knees look okay).

    49. SJK

      Totally get what everyone is saying re: Giles’ potential, but in our position it just doesn’t make sense to get cute trying to trade down and get him. If we could trick someone into giving us a mid-first for KOQ, or pick one up in a Melo deal, then sure. But what we should do is lose the rest of our games, play the odds with the lottery, and then sit tight in our position and draft BPA unless we get some a trade-down offer too good to pass up. Like, for example, if we’re at 6 and SAC wanted to give us 8-9 to move up. Otherwise, I sit tight.

    50. Philmelo

      If we’re going to take chance on a mid-first rounder I’d rather that it be Annunoby than Giles.

    51. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      @55 I believe that Clarence Gaines went to scout Og just before his injury. I’m not suggesting anything nefarious btw.

    52. geehee

      So hypothetically, if Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum and fox are gone before the Knicks pick….who do we go for? Frank?

    53. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      It would be nice if we could see a little more of NDour before the season comes to an end. He looked good against the Spurs last week.

    54. djphan

      there’s really no excuse to not pick one of the pg’s if they’re still on the board…. and that list does not include frank…

    55. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      The Sixers are dressing eight players for tonight’s game. Just how low will they sink?

    56. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      It’s obnoxious how good the Warriors are… even without their best player.

    57. Accidentank 2017

      The Warriors, if they beat the Spurs, are going to smoke Cleveland. Like, real smoke.

    58. Eternal OptiKnist

      Minny with the 1 point win! If philly pulls this out, nice night for the tank :)

    59. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      Sixers win. Wait, hold on. Saric’s three in and out. Philly by 3 with 8 seconds left. Philly ball.

    60. Reub On Our Way To Greatness

      The last 1.4 seconds has taken about 10 minutes! Philly by 5 and looking good.

    61. Eternal OptiKnist

      Glad philly put this one away. They had to win this one. Didn’t ralize Miami was on a b2b tomorrow. So does a loss tonight make them hungry to win tomorrow or does a solid win build momentum?

    62. Brian Cronin

      The last 1.4 seconds has taken about 10 minutes! Philly by 5 and looking good.

      It really was crazy how long the last 8 seconds took.

    63. #firePhilJackson

      Sixers boost team morale for the win. Suns and Lakers however are knowingly committed to tanking. If this continues, pick 5 for Fox!

    64. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Very happy with Philadelphia’s performance

      If we manage to do our jobs against Miami I think our status as the #5 is set…

    65. nicos

      There’s still an outside shot at 4- Orlando has two games against Brooklyn and ends the season playing Detroit who’ll almost certainly be eliminated by then.

    66. TheOakmanCometh

      Miami is better than us, but not so much better that we should expect to get swept. Gotta assume a split and if we get swept, that’s a bonus.

    67. djphan

      oh wow didn’t realize the kings beat the grizz last nite…. #5 is definitely within grasp…

    68. Accidentank 2017

      The Heat should kill us tomorrow. Whiteside and Dragic are two guys we can’t stop at all. Whiteside means no lay ups for Derrick Rose.

    69. NYFaithful33

      So much talk about Ball, is this because we have accepted that there’s no chance we get the first pick and can grab Fultz? Seriously, Fultz is amazing, and I’d take him over Ball any day of the week.

    70. Philmelo

      From my end its because I think Ball is a game changer coming out of the draft who will expedite our rebuild.

    71. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Also Ball is the far and away the funnest player to watch in this draft so the Knicks would be a blast with him, KP, and Willy to watch.

      Obviously you pick BPA but that’s a nice perk of picking Ball (who I think is better than Fultz but like some have said that Fultz is the safer pick.)

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