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Knicks Morning News (2016.02.29)

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Knicks Daily Links: Monday (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:02:14 EST)

    Knicks Daily Links: Monday

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Melo: You don't want to hear 'Let's go Heat' at home (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:56:10 EST)

    Melo: You don't want to hear 'Let's go Heat' at home

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Melo: Stoudemire's Knicks barbs not about me (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:06:05 EST)

    Melo: Stoudemire's Knicks barbs not about me

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks playoff hopes continue to slip away with loss to Heat (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:57:08 GMT)

    The night at the Garden started with an embarrassing chant of “Let’s Go Heat” and ended the same way.

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e Stoudemire throws shade at Carmelo Anthony (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:54:24 GMT)

    Amar’e Stoudemire is depressed about the state of a franchise he left in the hands of Carmelo Anthony.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Phil Jackson out of touch with ‘praise’ for Curry (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:32:51 GMT)

    Stephen Curry simultaneously shocked the Oklahoma City Thunder late Saturday night and sent the NBA into a social media frenzy

  • [New York Post] Porzingis offers nicest prom rejection you’ll ever see (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:17:55 -0500)

    Call it one of the classiest rejections of Kristaps Porzingis' rookie season. "The KP and The Prom” soap opera reached its conclusion Sunday at the Garden with Long Island high-schooler Samantha Miller on hand to gracefully respond to Porzingis' rejection. The tale began Friday when Miller asked Porzingis to her prom, holding up a sign…

  • [New York Post] How Joe Johnson decided coming to Heat was “the best thing to do” (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:46:39 -0500)

    When Joe Johnson arrived in Brooklyn for the 2012-13 season, expectations went wild. With Deron Williams, the Nets had a backcourt to carry them to the playoffs and beyond. Oops. "Honestly, I don't think much about the disappointments so to speak,” said Johnson, who had to flee Brooklyn via buyout and sign with the Heat…

  • [New York Post] Phil only showing the world he may have lost his Zen (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:40:10 -0500)

    Knicks president Phil Jackson's Twitter account was not hacked Sunday, but the club might have wanted to claim it was. Jackson's 140-character missive about reigning MVP Stephen Curry seemed racier than any photo interim coach Kurt Rambis "likes'' on his Twitter feed. Oh yes, the Zen Master has struck again, hours before the Knicks dropped…

  • [New York Times] Curry Turning 3-Pointers Into Longest Drive Competition (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 07:06:46 GMT)

    As Stephen Curry casually dribbled the ball across halfcourt, the clock winding down on a tie game in overtime, he took one bounce past the stripe, did his trademark foot shuffle as he gathered himself and let the ball fly from some 38 feet away.

  • [New York Times] Johnson Makes Hot Start to Heat Life as Miami Burn Knicks (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:03:27 GMT)

    Veteran Joe Johnson signed with the Miami Heat on Saturday and on Sunday the versatile swing man was thrown right into the fire, delivering in a victory over the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden.

  • [New York Times] Amar’e Stoudemire Laments Knicks’ Decline, Then Helps Sustain It (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:46:19 GMT)

    Stoudemire appeared to lob some subtle criticisms at Carmelo Anthony and reproached his former teammates for their halfhearted embrace of the triangle offense before helping his new team, the Miami Heat, defeat them.

  • [New York Times] Wade Scores 26, Heat Beat Knicks in Joe Johnson’s Debut (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 03:12:45 GMT)

    Dwyane Wade scored 26 points, Joe Johnson made a 3-pointer on his first shot in a Heat uniform during a big game-opening run, and Miami beat the New York Knicks 98-81 on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Pistons Beat Raptors 114-101 in Lowry’s Absence (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:57:36 GMT)

    A lot has changed in the past week for the Detroit Pistons.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Cavaliers Fall to Wizards as LeBron James Sits One Out (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:46:28 GMT)

    The Wizards got a much-needed victory in their bid to move into playoff position.

  • [New York Times] Parsons, Mavs Start Fast in 128-101 Win Over Timberwolves (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:42:39 GMT)

    Chandler Parsons scored 29 points and the Dallas Mavericks started fast in their first game since getting booed by the home crowd during a bad opening half, beating the Minnesota Timberwolves 128-101 Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Paul George’s Secret: He Learned to Play Like a Girl (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:28:52 GMT)

    The N.B.A. All-Star Paul George developed his skills by trying in vain to outplay his sister.

  • [New York Times] Big Magic Start Dooms 76ers to Eighth Straight Loss, 130-116 (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:57:51 GMT)

    Rookie Mario Hezonja dunked four seconds into his first NBA start, finishing with 13 points, and the Orlando Magic led all the way Sunday in a 130-116 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers.

  • [New York Times] Lillard Scores 33, Trail Blazers Beat Pacers 111-102 (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:42:52 GMT)

    Damian Lillard had 33 points and five rebounds to lead the Portland Trail Blazers to a 111-102 victory over the Indiana Pacers on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Game of the Week: Rockets at Bulls (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:28:11 GMT)

    Houston and Chicago looked like contenders as the season began. But with Golden State, Oklahoma City, San Antonio and Cleveland rising to the top, the two middle-of-the-pack teams have their work cut out for them.

  • [New York Newsday] Miami Heat gives Joe Johnson warm reception, quick start (Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:02:51 EST)

    Joe Johnson was penciled into Miami's starting lineup before the Heat even began stitching the J-O-H-N-S-O-N on the back of his new red jersey.

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    44 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2016.02.29)

    1. DRed

      It’s going to be annoying if we lose tonight to a team whose off season moves were clearly driven by my posts here. Screw you, Neil Olshey-I want my cut. Just something to wet my beak.

    2. Brian Cronin

      McCollum is a perfect example of why you should always wait a bit to judge drafts. If they redrafted that draft today, I bet he goes #2 after the Greek Freak. But who knows what the future will bring? Maybe Bennett will somehow turn it around with his next team.

    3. ptmilo

      It’s pretty crazy that Portland could lose count ’em 4 big money free agents in one year, add only discount bin pieces, and end up with a better offense this year. You think Westbrook and Durant would be surrounded by Waiters, an older guy like Waiters, a worse Chase Buddinger, and Enes from Venus under Olshey’s watch?

    4. yellowboy90

      Crabbe was also in that draft and took some time too. He was the wing I wanted most when people were debating about Crabbe/THjr/Bullock

    5. massive

      @3, it was actually Neil Olshey and the Trailblazers who signed Kanter to the $70 million offer sheet. I agree, though. The Thunder have the best one-two punch in the league and they choose to surround them with guys like Foye and Waiters. That’s utter incompetence.

    6. ptmilo

      A lot of people like Zach Lowe seem to think Olshey didn’t really want Kanter and knew Presti would have to match as the only way it had available to improve and to mollify Durant. I admit that seems like a weird risk for Portland to take if you didn’t really want him.

    7. d-mar

      Meanwhile, our beloved KP has returned to earth in a big way. For example, here’s his current stats vs. Okafor:

      KP TS .522 Rebounds 7.4 Blocks 1.9
      JO TS .536 Rebounds 7.0 Blocks 1.2

      Now would I take Okafor over Zinger? Definitely not, as I think KP has more upside, but it does bear noting that the Unicorn is looking more and more ordinary these days and not even in the discussion any more for ROY.

    8. Nick C.

      The Knicks sort of have to claim Ray McCallum, right?

      Why, so he can sit behind Sasha?

      lol “He plays hard in practice. But he has to play way better than the guys who have already been here …” I think that is close to the exact quote from Rambis re: Jimmer

    9. Dough Chew

      Isn’t Steve Novak the last Spurs castoff the Knicks picked up? If McCallum is half as fun as Novak’s run, sign me up.

    10. Dough Chew

      @10 I’m not worried about KP and as for comparisons with Okafor’s dinosaur game HOW DARE YOU SIR. But seriously I’m not worried about our glorious Unicorn – he’s just hit the rookie wall hard. When his body gets used to the NBA season workload, I believe he can maintain how he terrorized the league at the beginning of the season.

    11. Dough Chew

      @13 “If the losses keep coming I guess I’ll finally accept that I’m not going to earn a head coaching job from this.”

      @15 d-mar were those… those… PER GAME STATS?? HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME

    12. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Okafor is really, really bad. I would only trade for him if I were to use him as bait to swindle some other team looking for “upside.”

      Porzingis has not been very good. Lots of flashes, but that TS% number says it all. Unless you put up Mudiay/Okafor/Bennett numbers as a rookie, there’s not much to say about a player’s future ability from a mediocre rookie year. But Porzingis is not an untouchable asset, in my mind. There are many players in the league that you trade Porzingis for, at the moment..

    13. Alecto

      Unless you put up Mudiay/Okafor/Bennett numbers as a rookie, there’s not much to say about a player’s future ability from a mediocre rookie year.

      I agree that Porzingis hasn’t been particularly amazing (though I think he’ll turn out to be quite good.) But it seems as if he’s been highly productive vis a vis other rookies in the league (he’s a top 5-7 rookie, roughly) and roughly average or slightly above league average as a whole. What I think might be an interesting question is how many league-average-to-slightly-above-league-average rookies usually pan out, and where we can roughly expect Porzingis to land (understanding of course that projections are just that–projections.)

      I’m too lazy to do all that legwork, of course.

    14. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Absolutely. I get the excitement about his potential, but the production is not there yet. Durant and LeBron are great examples of rookies with marginal productivity who then turned the corner and became All-NBA talents very rapidly thereafter. Then there are players like Fields and Faried who were scorching their rookie years and never really got much better. (Although I’d have loved Faried on the Knicks — that value.) I would prefer not to trade Porzingis until year 3 is over (because rookie contract and possible improvement), but if someone came and offered Davis, Towns or Jokic right now, I wouldn’t laugh into the phone. I’m sure that’s not goink to happen though.

    15. ptmilo

      Remember that for anyone sadistic enough to subject themselves to the 76ers this year, Okafor had been blindingly terribly on defense, like Amar’e the night after he read a confusing bible passage bad, a really big difference from KP. Odd fact: the sixers sans okafor have actually been better than that Knicks sans KP, whereas the Knicks with KP are an average team while Philly with okafor is roughly the worst team in history.

    16. Dough Chew

      Kevin Durant’s rookie year TS% was .519. Hassan Whiteside’s was .449. Rudy Gobert’s was .507. Westbrook’s was .489. Greek Freak’s was .518.

      I’ll give KP’s rookie year a pass; he has all of 92 games at the pro level under his belt and he never played more than 50 games in a season in Spain.

      His potential is tantalizing (legit stretch 5) and to treat him like an expendable asset before you know what you have is short-sighted. He’s already a quality rim protector. (-10.5% from league avg <6 ft. Hassan Whiteside is -13.5%.) He hits his free throws. (85.3%) He's 34% from three for the year, which I'll take for a rookie who's never played 82 games. (In fact in December and January he was around 37% which based on his shooting form and FT ability I'll say is sustainable in the future.)

      (also holy crap did you guys know that on stats.nba.com you can pull up a video playlist of every single one of a player's shot attempts/makes/blocks/steals/etc for the entire season? What is this wizardry?)

      So if this is his floor, he's already an NBA starter. And he's 20. Years. Old. Even if we take the media narrative with the proper grain of salt it looks like he's a grounded and resilient individual who is hungry to learn and improve. (Don't forget the knock on him pre-draft was that he couldn't rebound and now it's one of his strengths.) 20 YEARS OLD!

    17. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Whiteside played 109 minutes that year. That number is so insignificant that his career TS% is .615 in just ~2500 minutes. I’m quibbling here.

      But yes, his floor is an NBA starter on a mediocre team. That’s great, but what happens from here on out is what matters. There’s really no way of telling who is Russ Westbrook and who is Tyreke Evans.

    18. Dough Chew

      @20 Reading that makes me miss Grantland all over again; I always looked forward to Bill Simmons’ annual NBA Trade Value feature every year. In a perfect world Zach Lowe would do one and it’d be an ideal marriage of “genius-level NBA writing” and “fun/irreverent concept.”

    19. DRed

      The Knicks met with Tony Wroten

      Phase 1: Draft rookie PG and play Sasha Vujacic over him
      Phase 2: sign Jimmer to 10 day contract but play Sasha Vujacic over him
      Phase 3: sign an even shittier guard, play him instead of Sasha

    20. Glew

      I actually think if they give wroten a shot, we will be pleasantly surprised not that it matters much now. But the dude has john wall athleticism and can get to the hoop, he’s also 22…

    21. JK47

      Remember that for anyone sadistic enough to subject themselves to the 76ers this year, Okafor had been blindingly terribly on defense, like Amar’e the night after he read a confusing bible passage bad, a really big difference from KP.

      Completely agree with this. KP has already blown past his worst-case scenario projection, which was Bargnani 2.0, because KP has shown he is a very capable and effective defender. I am actually completely pleasantly surprised by the quality of the Zinger’s defense. He is such a tantalizing prospect because he is a potential two-way player, while you can’t say that at all about Okafor. Okafor is as slow and ineffective on defense as was advertised, and does not look like a guy who will ever be a good two-way player in the league.

    22. alsep73

      Ty Lawson is now back on the market! Our dysfunctional organization is just what he needs to get his head and game right!

    23. d-mar

      Just to be clear, I wasn’t saying I’d rather have Okafor than Zinger. I was just pointing out that KP has regressed somewhat, and the gap between him and Towns has widened considerably.

    24. DRed

      Tony Wroten fucking sucks. He’s a turnover machine who can’t score efficiently but shoots a lot. For the D-league? Sure, why not. He is young and athletic. We already have a young PG who can’t shoot who we don’t play at all-we don’t need another one.

    25. etsuke

      The biggest differences between Porzingis and Okafor are defense and spacing, two things that aren’t captured by stats all that well. Jahlil is a big who can’t shoot and can’t defend the rim—that makes it very hard to find players that fit well with him. There just aren’t many bigs that can shoot and defend the rim, although there were a few potential ones in the last draft, like Towns, Porzingis, and Turner.

      It’s really easy to build around a big who can shoot and defend the rim. It’s really hard to build around a big who can’t do either.

    26. er

      On KP vs KAT, I don’t think KP has regressed. He’s just being a normal rookie with highs and lows. KAT on the other hand is getting stronger and better as the season goes on.

      On another note, I would like to bring in Ty Lawson. I know he is a bit off, but he’s played with Melo and Afflao in Denver and he’s still rather young. How would that work money wise this year and going forward

    27. Glew

      Well he’s younger and has better per game stats/athleticism than Grant…It’s likely his USG% was out of control because..sixers…

    28. yellowboy90

      Why is Seraphin still on the roster and not getting the chance to be picked up a bit a playoff team? They can’t think he has a future in NY, right?

    29. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      There’s no regression at play with Porzingis. His sample set is merely growing. Anything he did in the first ten games of the season is anecdotal evidence. We have a sample now. He’s an okay rookie by the measurables. There’s a lot to look forward to.

      I’m merely saying that he’s not setting the league on fire right now. I consider Whiteside’s season last year to be a gold-standard season for a (de facto) first-year player. That’s the kind of thing where you say, “Well, when’s the league going to catch up to Whiteside?” With Porzingis, you have to ask when he’s going to figure out how to grab an extra ORB and hit an extra shot per game to move to elite territory. That’s not an easy task.

    30. reub

      Wow! What an opportunity to upgrade our guard talent in one fell swoop!

      Sign Lawson. Sign Wroten. Sign McCallum. Keep Jimmer. Release Sasha, Amundson, Early.

    31. Alecto

      Damn, we’re using a really loose definition of the word “upgrade” in this thread, huh.

      McCallum is the only guard who could conceivably be construed as an “upgrade” of any sort. Mayyyybeeeeee Lawson if you squint really hard and manage to not see the 40 oz. he’s carrying at all times.

    32. Alecto

      Here’s my idea, I think Rambis will like it:

      Release Seraphin, Amundson, O’Quinn, Early, Grant, Robin Lopez, Lance Thomas, Langston. D-Will and KP.

      Play Calderon, Melo, and Afflalo 48 minutes a game.

      ez winz ez ringz

    33. er

      reub
      March 1, 2016 at 4:11 pm
      Wow! What an opportunity to upgrade our guard talent in one fell swoop!

      Sign Lawson. Sign Wroten. Sign McCallum. Keep Jimmer. Release Sasha, Amundson, Early.

      I’d dump seraphin before Early

    34. dtrickey

      If we are going after anyone that clears waivers, McCallum would be my choice if we are just going to let Jimmer basically be a Garden of Dreams charity signing. Lawson is a big no-no for me. I hope he gets a shot, because he could be a great contributor once he sorts his shit out, but I would prefer it if he didn’t do it in New York. I would at least like to see Jimmer get some burn, before we start even considering Tony “Turnovers” Wroten.

      Do we have the over/under on what Lillard is going to go for tonight? Said MSG is his favourite arena, so I am predicting overs…..plus you know, Calderon will be on him. Ultimately if he can go off and we still get the win, both myself and my fantasy team will be happy. That may be having my cake and eating it too though.

    35. d-mar

      Do we have the over/under on what Lillard is going to go for tonight?

      How about Lillard/McCollum combined? I’d put the over/under at 60, I’m taking the over.

    36. dtrickey

      How about Lillard/McCollum combined? I’d put the over/under at 60, I’m taking the over.

      I hate to say it, but I don’t think that would be too silly a bet given our inability to stop guards in the last 5 years from having huge nights at the Garden.

    37. DRed

      We’ve had occasional semi-success against teams with one good guard (holding Russ to 34 points on 29 shots in November), but either Lillard or McCollum is going to be guarded by someone with absolutely no chance of staying in from of them. And when Rolo and Bigzingis have to come out to limit their penetration Portland’s army of mobile froncourt players are going to feast. Aside from Melo going off or a crazy D-Will game I don’t know how we even keep this one close

    38. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I hate to say it, but I don’t think that would be too silly a bet given our inability to stop guards in the last 5 years from having huge nights at the Garden.

      There has been almost zero continuity in the Knicks’ teams over the last five years. There isn’t a single player on the roster that was here in 2010. The jersey doesn’t make bad defense. The Knicks’ terrible front office does.

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