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Friday, April 26, 2019

2018-19 Game Thread: Knicks @ Magic

They’re still making us watch these things.

This game seems like a major trap game for the Magic, but luckily, the Knicks are now solidly behind with five minutes left in the first half.

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33 comments on “2018-19 Game Thread: Knicks @ Magic

  1. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

    Why did Hezonja start instead of Kornet?

  2. dtrickey

    Why did Hezonja start instead of Kornet?

    Fiz apparently promised Hezonja at the start of the year he would start him in their last game in Orlando regardless of rotations/situation.

  3. ptmilo

    the team smart enough to stick one of mario’s exes in a seat for every game can comfortably max him

  4. ptmilo

    Knox had strong game and i find myself impressed that he has played so many minutes as such an outmatched kid but isn’t playing like he’s praying for the final bell to ring.

  5. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

    Thanks DT

  6. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

    It loks like Mudiay had a nice game with 10 assists and 7 rebounds

  7. ptmilo

    i mean if it was a better draft or slightly less protected i’d be tempted but with the protection still luka. but i considered myself a trae optimist and you could have won a lot of money from me on his chances of having the second half that he has.

  8. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

    Knox has had a vastly improved on offense in March/April. He hasn’t played well, but compared to the way he was playing before if he can finish off the last 4 games at the same level it won’t feel as two-sided hopeless. He’s ridiculously young and lacking in strength/physical development. He almost has to get a lot better next year if he just fills out. Plus he may still grow another inch.

    Speaking of growing, I wonder if there is any data on how growing impacts shooting development.

  9. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

    I’m not sure so Trae Young hasn’t been the better player over the last couple of months.

    Luca fills out the boxscore better because he rebounds better, but he’s not really a PG. He doesn’t add as much value as it seems as a rebounder relative to Trae. Trae rebounds well for a PG.

    Luca may be the better defender, but that’s sort of like being the taller pygmy. One is bad and the other is terrible.

    imo, Trae has been the the better playmaker and scorer in recent months.

    The other thing I’ve noticed is that given the theoretical contribution Luca makes based on his boxscore, you’d expect Dallas to totally suck when he’s out, but they don’t. Sometimes It seems like they hardly miss him. That tells me he’s piling up stats because he has the ball so often, but he’s not adding as much value as it seems.

    Both are probably going to be terrific players, but if I was an Atlanta fan, I’d feel way better about that trade now than I did on draft night and over the first couple of months.

  10. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

    That battle for the right to lose to the Bucks in the 1st round is interesting.

  11. dtrickey

    Yeeeeeah first round in the East is looking like having some fairly uninteresting matchups as usual.

  12. Bruno Almeida

    Doncic has been struggling since Dallas gutted their roster, and he didn’t have a proper offseason in years. It’s very understandable that he’s slowing down a bit, and even with Young’s very good couple of months since the beginning of the year, their numbers are super close.

    I’ve been enjoying watching the Hawks, they have some pretty interesting pieces to build with. I’m convinced Young is very good, he’s a crazy good passer and a super talented shooter. The thing that still makes me lean towards Doncic is mostly that I think Doncic still has a lot of room to improve in the sense that his body is clearly nowhere near top NBA level and now he’ll start to work out on a NBA regimen with actual offseasons.

    So Luka has the higher ceiling, while performance wise right now they’re super close. We talk about how wrong people were in dismissing Curry because of his size, but we can’t forget that what Curry does works because he’s the best shooter to ever touch a basketball and is incredibly intelligent. I still have my doubts about Young’s ceiling, but honestly, I’d actually be very happy as a Hawks fan right now with Young and Collins already in place plus whoever they find with their picks.

  13. bobneptune

    Ntilakilla where you at

    Are we really revisiting this poop storm?

    But puleeeze…. CNN (whose ratings have crashed since the Mueller report was released) quotes ‘unnamed’ prosecutors (who were all Clinton donors and one was The Clinton Foundation’s lawyer FFS )and the whisper the information is sooooooooooo damning…..

    Well if Barr is mischaracterizing Mueller’s conclusions…. don’t you think Mueller would “correct the record?????????”

    Jerrold (Jabba the Hut) Nadler House Judicairy Committee Chair wants to call Barr as a witness but somehow doesn’t seem interested in calling Mueller….. Hmmmmmm….. I wonder why…. maybe because he knows what Mueller will tell him, but he knows Barr is restricted from revealing Grand Jury testimony by law as well as classified information, but that won’t stop Nadler from having a dog and pony show by having Barr say, “I can’t answer that Mr. Chairman,” 50 times to make it “look” like he is being disingenuous.

    And by the way…. where are all the indictments from the obvious crimes you were all told for 2 years like gullible drones and ploppies. Well…. they got Manafort on not paying his taxes 10 years ago and a couple of other minor process crimes. Reality sucks fellas……

    And for the loquacious Mr Jowles…. Have you seen this KOMO documentary:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

    Or read this piece: https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-residents-rebelling-homelessness

  14. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Homelessness is a crisis that Seattle, Portland and San Francisco all share. Incompetent leadership and a bipartisan unwillingness to hold the massive, cash-printing companies within their metro borders financially accountable for the “fringe benefits” they introduce into the local economy.

    Honestly, if you think that the current brand of conservativism — with its, at best, complete misunderstanding of preventative policing, an unwillingness to attack social problems at their origins, and the naked exchange of billions between politicians and their financiers — would better serve the public in our cities, you are woefully ignorant of what the right-wing’s party has become. It would seem farcical to believe that because Democratic policy has (largely) failed, Republican policy would not. The failure of one doesn’t imply the success of the other.

  15. JK47

    Yes but if you really do conservatism right, voila, trickle down, everybody does great! Just keep cutting taxes, that will fix the homeless problem. That fixes every problem actually.

  16. Z-man

    Knox had strong game and i find myself impressed that he has played so many minutes as such an outmatched kid but isn’t playing like he’s praying for the final bell to ring.

    Didn’t I say this a couple of weeks ago? The fact that he’s improved after playing heavy minutes all year is in and of itself cause for guarded optimism. And last night, his physical profile was very apparent. He’s definitely worth another look next year.

  17. bobneptune

    Shorter bobneptune:

    FAKE NEWS!1!!!11!

    I understand smarm is a big part of what we do here when we don’t have a good argument but after 2 years …. were are Saint Mueller’s indictments?

    As to fake news, you have to be either a ploppy or a shill not to acknowledge facts:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/26/glenn_greenwald_cnn_and_msnbc_are_like_state_tv_with_ex-intel_officials_as_contributors.html

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-815060/

    I am guessing even you will admit Matt Taibbi and Glen Greenwald aren’t members of Team Trump or members of the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!”

  18. bobneptune

    Homelessness is a crisis that Seattle, Portland and San Francisco all share. Incompetent leadership and a bipartisan unwillingness to hold the massive, cash-printing companies within their metro borders financially accountable for the “fringe benefits” they introduce into the local economy.

    I’m not sure why the “corporations” are responsible for a problem that is mainly (according to the video) a function of drug addiction?

    I understand you violate a homeless person’s civil liberties if you attempt to force them off the street or into rehab. However it is incredibly stupid and actually heartless that once these people commit legitimate crimes to just turn them back loose on society so the cycle can repeat itself.

    In general, when these people are convicted of a crime and are substance abusers they should be remanded to a treatment center for 30-60 days and not put in the general population in jail nor returned to the streets. If they re-offend and are still abusing substances…. back into rehab for a longer period of time.

    The idea is to help people at the same time as protecting society. My ex – wife was an alcoholic of the most virulent type and was arrested 4 times for DUI, one house arrest and 2 separate 2 week jail stints, and also spent 12 days on a ventilator after a binge. She didn’t get better until two stints in rehab, but has now recovered and is working 60 hours a week and back as a functioning member of society. You need to get these people help…. not turn them back out into the public where they can cause more havoc to themselves and society.

  19. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    I’m not sure why the “corporations” are responsible for a problem that is mainly (according to the video) a function of drug addiction?

    Then you fail to adequately understand that the tax base cannot exclude local corporations and run efficiently. This is the essence of slash-and-starve: undertax corporations, show poor outcomes from underfunded social services, claim it’s “waste,” slash the budget further. All of this leads to further social rot.

    Or we can just claim that Microsoft, Boeing and Amazon have had no effect on housing instability or sudden, rapid population growth in the Seattle metro, and therefore have no obligation to help fund critical infrastructure and services. That should fall on the taxpayers — who, haha, are paid salaries (or “contractor wages”) by those companies.

    In general, when these people are convicted of a crime and are substance abusers they should be remanded to a treatment center for 30-60 days and not put in the general population in jail nor returned to the streets. If they re-offend and are still abusing substances…. back into rehab for a longer period of time.

    You find me a conservative politician’s agenda that includes sufficient funding for in-patient treatment and rehabilitation for drug users, rather than the “lock ’em up and throw away the key” approach that they use in states like Arizona and Texas. I’ll wait.

  20. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

    @29

    I agree 100% that we have some moral responsibility to attack social problems.

    I’m less sure how to raise the money.

    Economically, there are risks.

    1. Countries, states, cities, and local communities all compete for investment and jobs. “Part” of the competition is the tax rate and after tax return on investment.

    2. These days individuals can just pack their bags and move to a low tax state all while doing business wherever they want.

    If you don’t accept that, you are pretty much delusional.

    So you have to find a way to raise the money that is not damaging to investment and that doesn’t cause wealth flight. You also have to make sure you get really good bang for the buck because people and corporations will refuse to fund programs that are not working well or if they think there is corruption and/or incompetence.

    Government is not particularly good at getting “bang for the buck”. There aren’t good measurements of success in government (like profit/loss, return on capital etc.. in the private sector) and it’s very difficult to stop politicians from promising things in order to get elected instead of because they actually work.

    Here is where I am being way too idealistic, but I think we need a fundamental change in our value system. We need people to FEEL more of a responsibility to those with mental health issues, that were born into terrible environments at home or in their neighborhood, that were born with other disadvantages etc.. and we need corporations to feel more of a responsibility towards the communities they do business in by actually helping with the problems, but not under threat or with more taxes, because they know it’s the right thing to do.

    Government is not going to fix the problems any more than doing nothing will. WE have to change.

  21. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    If you don’t accept that, you are pretty much delusional.

    I lived in upstate NY, where IBM packed up and all but left the Hudson Valley in the mid-90s because of the “race to the bottom” you describe. I was there when half of my friends’ parents lost their jobs because of that.

    and we need corporations to feel more of a responsibility towards the communities they do business in by actually helping with the problems, but not under threat or with more taxes, because they know it’s the right thing to do.

    For every Patagonia, there are a hundred BPs. This is idealistic thinking to the nth degree.

  22. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Also, I implore everyone still reading this thread to keep responses here. We don’t need to derail the current thread with useless, ineffectual hand-wringing about socially-responsible corporate strategy or solving homelessness by asking Republicans treat sick human beings with care and dignity.

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