Knicks Morning News (2017.04.07)

  • [ESPN] Brandon Jennings: Carmelo Anthony trade talks ‘took a toll’ on Knicks
    (Friday, April 07, 2017 1:02:24 AM)

    Brandon Jennings: Carmelo Anthony trade talks ‘took a toll’ on Knicks

  • [NYPost] Brandon Jennings triumphant in return as James Dolan stews
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:44:48 PM)

    Knicks owner James Dolan should thank his lucky stars the Garden is still packed in these final, wretched days, filled with lively, singing, dancing fans chanting De-Fense in the final minutes of a Knicks’ fourth-quarter comeback Thursday against the Wizards. A rally from 12 points down in the last nine minutes got the game tied…

  • [NYPost] Knicks make it competitive, but don’t ruin lottery standing
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:28:53 PM)

    The Knicks aren’t necessarily tanking — but they’re losing nonetheless. The latest gut-punch was rallying from a double-digit, fourth-quarter deficit, only to see Carmelo Anthony miss a potential tying 3-pointer. In the end, they lost 106-103 to the Wizards, ruining a spirited comeback in front of a sellout Garden crowd Thursday. “I missed it. I…

  • [NYPost] Dennis Rodman calls out Melo, says Knicks ‘will never win’
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 3:29:42 PM)

    The Knicks as they’re built will never win, according to Dennis Rodman. And the man they call “The Worm” said part of the reason is because Carmelo Anthony — and the rest of today’s millennial players — can’t handle team president Phil Jackson. Rodman made his comments to Bill Reiter of CBSSports.com, just a week…

  • [NYPost] Knicks fan called ‘a—hole’ by Dolan: Just don’t take my tickets
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:00:30 AM)

    Mike Hamersky, the Knicks fan who was cursed out by owner James Dolan after Hamersky told him to sell the team, has contacted the NBA about the wild incident. However, Hamersky told The Post he won’t go through with filing a formal complaint as long as he’s assured he won’t have his season-ticket account suspended by…

  • [SNY Knicks] Bradley Beal scores 25 to lift Wizards over Knicks, 106-103
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:33:36 PM)

    Bradley Beal scored 25 points and made the tiebreaking 3-pointer with 49 seconds left as the Washington Wizards beat the New York Knicks 106-103 on Thursday night.

  • [SNY Knicks] Owner James Dolan cursed at season ticket holder outside MSG
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:30:43 PM)

    Knicks owner James Dolan yelled and cursed at a season ticket holder Tuesday night outside Madison Square Garden, Dolan confirmed to Deadspin.

  • [NYDN] James Dolan must finally put the Knicks ahead of his own image
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:27:31 PM)

    The only time Dolan seems to get passionate about anything is when he’s the target of criticism.

  • [NYDN] Kristaps Porzingis sits again as Knicks get much-needed loss
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:27:12 PM)

    The Knicks have returned to their tanking ways – and the losing form came at an opportune time.

  • [NYDN] Brandon Jennings talks Carmelo Anthony, Phil Jackson drama
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:27:54 PM)

    Brandon Jennings returned to the Garden Thursday night for the first time since the Knicks waived him in late February.

  • [NYDN] Dennis Rodman defends Knicks prez, says Melo will never win in NY
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:40:19 AM)

    Dennis Rodman believes today’s Millennial athletes just can’t handle Phil Jackson — and Carmelo Anthony will “never win in New York.”

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks fall to Wizards; Porzingis may miss final games
    (Friday, April 07, 2017 12:00:51 AM)

    Carmelo Anthony once believed the Knicks had enough veteran talent to contend in the East. He started alongside three rookies Thursday night for the second straight game, and two of them were undrafted.

  • [NYTimes] Wizards 106, Knicks 103: Kristaps Porzingis Sits Out Again, and Knicks Fall to Wizards
    (Friday, April 07, 2017 4:00:08 AM)

    Porzingis had hoped to play the last four games of the season after having missed a dozen, but he was a late scratch as Washington won at Madison Square Garden.

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: In Boston, Cavaliers Make a Point: They’re Still the Cavaliers
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:55:40 AM)

    A 114-91 victory over the Celtics showed that Cleveland remains fearsome, after many ups and downs this season.

  • [NYTimes] Warriors Clear Kevin Durant to Start Playing Again
    (Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:22:38 PM)

    Durant, out with a knee injury since Feb. 28, can practice on Friday and is expected to play on Saturday against New Orleans.

  • [NYTimes] Behind Kevin Durant’s Jersey Number, a Cold-Blooded Murder
    (Friday, April 07, 2017 9:00:49 AM)

    A beloved youth-league coach was gunned down at age 35 outside a bar in Maryland, just one more murder in a place where gunshot deaths were routine.

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    105 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2017.04.07)”

    1. How ironic that Jerian torpedoed our tank last night. And why does Z-Man and others say that “Grant didn’t really develop” when he’s posted these improvements on a dysfunctional team:

      WS/48. Plus .030 to Plus .102
      VORP.. Minus .5 to Plus .3
      BPM…. Minus 3.4 to Minus 1.0
      RPM…. Minus 3.65 to Plus .43

      Even Wade went public in March and said Grant should be getting more regular minutes. It looks to me like he could have been an above average reserve combo guard in our future. But what’s important here is that we would have only had to pay him 1.7m next season and 2.6m the following season. Instead we’re talking about paying 28yo Holiday who’s got worse stats 8m/yr.

      I believe the Rose trade trade was worse than the Noah signing. Brook Lopez didn’t fall off a cliff this season so had his identical twin remained a Knick, his performance probably would have been similar to that of the previous season. Noah was an average player whose performance will likely decline. The opportunity cost of his cap space is less than the opportunity cost of Grant/Lopez. Of course, some will argue that the trade was so bad it netted us a higher draft pick.

    2. Brook Lopez didn’t fall off a cliff this season so had his identical twin remained a Knick, his performance probably would have been similar to that of the previous season.

      I think Lopez probably would have played better as a Knick than as a Bull, but I don’t think citing his twin’s success has any bearing on it.

    3. They’re IDENTICAL twins. Brook’s played 4,000 more minutes than Robin. Players tend to fall off a cliff when a genetic clock goes off – their body is only able to take so much. So Robin’s poor performance is not because of that. It’s possible he’s had an injury he’s not talking about or maybe some psychological problem’s affected his performance.

    4. A quick look at their stats reveals many similarities between Grant and Holiday. One could conceivably argue that they’re equivalent players.

      That said, right now Holiday looks like a better fit on O and D, as well as culture-wise in NY than Grant would’ve been.

    5. Grant is younger, cheaper, better at the moment according to most advanced stats and more likely to improve than Holiday. You could envision Grant/KP/Willy as rotation players in our future. Plus Lopez might have netted us Rubio or some other player/pick.

    6. Grant has been terrible and has hardly played. He finally had a halfway decent game against the lowly Sixers so now he’s the second coming.

      Robin being a twin of Brook just proves that nature isn’t as important as nurture.

    7. Holliday has been thriving in our motion offense as of late. Imagine Ntilikina doing the same.

    8. Can you imagine what that Knicks-Sixers game will be like if we’re actually tied with them or a game apart?

      “Plumlee brings it upcourt for the Knicks, being guarded by Luwawu-Cabarrot. Luwawu-Cabarrot backs off, Plumlee for 3…. airball, and at halftime it’s Knicks 25-Sixers 24. “

    9. “Plumlee brings it upcourt for the Knicks, being guarded by Luwawu-Cabarrot. Luwawu-Cabarrot backs off, Plumlee for 3…. airball, and at halftime it’s Knicks 25-Sixers 24.”

      So basically the plot of Hoosiers.

    10. Philmelo loves him some FRANK :)

      But yea Jerian shouldn’t be written off. He can guard the 1s and 2s and can shoot the 3. And is also in a bad situation in Chicago

    11. Grant is putting up better numbers than Holiday did last year to close the season.
      If I was the Knicks I would eat crow and offer the Bulls their 2nd rd pick back since they don’t want him.

    12. Grant is putting up better numbers than Holiday did last year to close the season.

      It would also be interesting to compare Grant’s numbers in the NBA this season to Holiday’s numbers in the NBA at the same age, if that was possible (it isn’t, since, well, you know).

    13. Grant is better, younger, signed for longer, and cheaper than Holiday. We got taken to the woodshed even if you choose to look at the trade as Holiday and a second rounder for Grant.

    14. WigginS 36 points on 58.1% TS, 8 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals and +3 in a 7 point loss last night.

      It really is crazy the amount of minutes THIBS plays some of his guys though. If they actually were in a playoff race they would 100% start to breakdown.

    15. Mike Breen was honored with the Dick Maguire award at the game last night. Jim Dolan promptly called him a drunken asshole

    16. It was so depressing hearing Johnny Hoops’ family talk about Dolan just shunned them, even when Johnny was getting honored by the Knicks. How can Dolan be that douchey?

    17. Grant managed not to fall down as much last night against a team trying to lose so because Phil traded him he’s now the greatest of all time.

    18. Why was Johnny Hoops’, or his family shunned? Is it because he was Marv’s broadcast partner or is Dolan just lacking in the basic social graces?

    19. Why was Johnny Hoops’, or his family shunned? Is it because he was Marv’s broadcast partner or is Dolan just lacking in the basic social graces?

      I think it’s the latter, because they did honor the guy, which they wouldn’t have done had Dolan been actively mad at him (like how Marv is not honored by the Knicks at all – in fact, when MSG did a Johnny Hoops tribute video, they managed to avoid using any Marv Albert clips).

    20. Who’s this Marv Albert character? Never heard of him. Just like this “Oakley” fellow that people were claiming is a former Knick. If those guys were involved with the team at some point, they must have been very minor characters, and probably alcoholics. Certainly not all-time great Knicks like Baron Davis.

      #OnceAKnickAlwaysAKnick

    21. They’re IDENTICAL twins. Brook’s played 4,000 more minutes than Robin. Players tend to fall off a cliff when a genetic clock goes off – their body is only able to take so much. So Robin’s poor performance is not because of that. It’s possible he’s had an injury he’s not talking about or maybe some psychological problem’s affected his performance.

      Brook and Robin have never had similar games. Why? Don’t know, but there’s no reason to project Robin’s performance based on Brook’s, and vice versa.

    22. Grant managed not to fall down as much last night against a team trying to lose so because Phil traded him he’s now the greatest of all time.

      Fake idiot or real idiot?

      YOU MAKE THE CALL!

    23. Let’s face up to reality. Grant has barely gotten off of the bench for a team that went out and traded for another backup PG. He has not been good. One game against the Sixers does not make him good. Did you see the game this week against the Knicks where he barely got on the floor and did nothing when he did? I hope that he gets better but let’s face up to reality here.

    24. I know I don’t make the rules around here but if Reub is just going to take up space as a troll who has no interest in genuine discussion I don’t see the point of keeping him around

    25. Grant against the Knicks this week: 6 minutes 0 points -3 +/- differential. Stats!

    26. I know I don’t make the rules around here but if Reub is just going to take up space as a troll who has no interest in genuine discussion I don’t see the point of keeping him around

      +1000000

      I’ve asked things of this nature in the past and have gotten the response “if you don’t like what someone’s saying, don’t read it,” but it genuinely downgrades the quality of discussion when you have to skim over half the posts.

    27. Friend at work had a great idea; Patrick needs to hire Oak as his assistant at GTown, so he would have to be let back into the garden, right on the court.

    28. Friend at work had a great idea; Patrick needs to hire Oak as his assistant at GTown, so he would have to be let back into the garden, right on the court.

      That’s pretty brilliant.

    29. I’ve asked things of this nature in the past and have gotten the response “if you don’t like what someone’s saying, don’t read it,” but it genuinely downgrades the quality of discussion when you have to skim over half the posts.

      It ain’t ideal, to be sure, but we’ve always had a pretty long leash here.

    30. I just checked the Minutes Played leaderboard. Guess who’s #1 and #2 in the NBA in minutes?

      Wiggins and Towns! Thibs hasn’t learned a thing from Deng and Noah. And he’s burning them out on a 31-win team. How much are they going to play when they actually get good?

    31. NBA is projecting the salary cap to be 101 million next season. Down from a recent projection of 103 million. And at one point it was thought to be as high as 108 million. No idea the ramifications though.

      Also the Nets are expected to pursue RFAs Otto Porter and Kentavius Caldwell-Pope. I imagine the Wizards will match the offer sheet, Pistons I’m not so sure.

      edit- And yeah it truly is incredible the amount of minutes THIBS plays his guys. Totally not optimal and if/when they ever do make playoffs they are going to be burnt out.

    32. Friend at work had a great idea; Patrick needs to hire Oak as his assistant at GTown, so he would have to be let back into the garden, right on the court.

      +10,000

    33. NBA is projecting the salary cap to be 101 million next season. Down from a recent projection of 103 million. And at one point it was thought to be as high as 108 million. No idea the ramifications though.

      They had been projecting 103 for a while, so 101 isn’t a huge drop, but yeah, big enough that it has serious effects on teams looking to make max cap room.

    34. Oakley would probably be an excellent assistant coach at the college level. He’d be able to teach those kids some toughness I would bet.

    35. Zanzibar, he’s okay, but not good enough to pine over, imo. He’s getting limited minutes on a team desperate for a PG and doesn’t do anything particularly well except get steals. I’d rather have Holiday, who is comperable at assists and steals and a better overall defender and shooter, but we would have Jerian’s rights so there’s that. In this draft, there’s a pretty good chance that a second rounder will be better than either of them. But either way, you have a valid argument on its face.

      On the other hand, I think your guess re: Lopez is silly, so I won’t even dignify it with a comment.

    36. A friend recommended that a good way to lessen resting stars is to base playoff home court on head-to-head record. I told him I’d run it by my blogger buddies for an opinion.

    37. A friend recommended that a good way to lessen resting stars is to base playoff home court on head-to-head record. I told him I’d run it by my blogger buddies for an opinion.

      So you mean Portland could get home court against Golden State if they had won the season series? It’s certainly a novel approach, at the very least.

    38. Trying to wrap my head around that one. It does strike at the heart of the matter, which is that so many awesome TV matchups end up being duds. Now San Antonio and Golden State becomes insanely important. Probably too important.

      Haven’t thought it through, the unintended consequences would have to be legion. I mean, you’d obviously always sit your guys against non playoff teams every time. I don’t know if that moves the misery index at all since its already happening. And it would be small sample size on steroids. Can you imagine if one team got hit with 2-3 back to backs for those matchups?

      But I’d definitely tune in for any regular season game where home court was in play.

    39. “eliminate the game clock from crunch time. Under Elam’s proposal, the clock would vanish after the first stoppage under the three-minute mark in the NBA and the four-minute mark in NCAA games. Officials would establish a target score by taking the score of the leading team and adding seven points — then restart the game without a clock. The team that reaches that target score first wins.”

      from a article http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19078511/zach-lowe-basketball-tournament-innovative-end-game-rule

      an idea to attempt to limit end game fouling and speed things up. I think it’s pretty interesting and would be cool if it was implemented in the D-League as a test/trial.

    40. It’s a great idea, although wouldn’t it alter player stats a bit? Players wouldn’t like to see their stats messed with. I really do like the idea, though.

    41. Z-Man,
      I’m not so sure Justin Holiday is a better defender than Jerian Grant. Holiday is listed at 6’6 and Grant at 6’5.

      Grant can guard both the 1 and 2 effectively. He is 4.5 years younger and on a super team friendly deal. He doesn’t get many assists for the Bulls because he primarily plays off the ball as a shooter. I also wouldn’t be so quick to say that Holiday is a better shooter either. Grant also has a higher free throw attempt rate.

    42. There is really no argument to be made for preferring Holiday to Grant besides “I want to be able to say the Knicks didn’t make an awful trade.”

      Grant is either equal or better at literally everything except rebounding and is much younger, will be much cheaper, and actually fills more of a need. At a certain point you have to just be willing to admit we fucked up. No one cares about Reub’s drivel but it’s annoying to see otherwise good posters being intellectually dishonest about this.

      Sounds like no Melo tonight. I’ve long been skeptical as to how much, if at all, that helps with the tank.

    43. I think it’s fine to tell a dude he’s wrong, but “intellectually dishonest” ascribes motivation and I don’t think you need to go there with real commenters.

    44. “Plumlee brings it upcourt for the Knicks, being guarded by Luwawu-Cabarrot. Luwawu-Cabarrot backs off, Plumlee for 3…. airball, and at halftime it’s Knicks 25-Sixers 24. “

      So much this!

    45. So basically the plot of Hoosiers.

      To bad we can’t reactivate Noah to play Ollie at the free throw line.

    46. @46 You have to learn that there are other opinions in this world besides your’s. They’re not necessarily wrong or intellectually dishonest because they are different from your opinions. Grant has been horrific for the Bulls and has found himself at the end of the bench because of it, his game against the tanking Sixers notwithstanding.

    47. I think it’s fine to tell a dude he’s wrong, but “intellectually dishonest” ascribes motivation and I don’t think you need to go there with real commenters.

      My point is that I think there’s a tendency among people who originally defended the Rose trade to stick to their guns to some extent in the face of overwhelming evidence. It’s not an egregious “offense” in my mind, it’s probably human nature. I do think it has made a fair evaluation Phil Jackson era a bit more difficult to discuss because we’re supposed to pretend the Rose trade was “risk free” or a “flyer” or whatever.

    48. It looks like KP may be done for our remaining games and I’m hoping that we sit Melo in our last home game against the Sixers so that he can’t ruin our tank on his way out.

    49. My point is that I think there’s a tendency among people who originally defended the Rose trade to stick to their guns to some extent in the face of overwhelming evidence.

      If you’re objecting to people defending the Rose trade as a whole (especially if you include the Noah signing as a direct result of the trade), then it’s plausible to call the trade undeniably bad. If you’re talking about Holiday vs Jerian, that is far from settled. There isn’t “overwhelming evidence” that either one is better. Especially since Jerian’s sample size is so small this year.

    50. i guess if kp is done then i guess now is a good time to evaluate how he’s progressed…
      kp year 1
      ws48 .102
      ftr: .271
      3pr: .274
      2p fg: .454
      ts: .518
      trb%: 14.0

      kp year 2
      ws48: 101
      ftr: .256
      3pr: .319
      2p fg: .493
      ts: .546
      trb%: 11.8

      a pretty disappointing year for kp… the gains he’s made on offense is basically offset by small declines everywhere else with the big one being his rebounding… also shooting more 3s i think is a net negative since it comes at the expense of his ftr and he was pretty decent in 2p territory and in particular around the rim …. made good progress in the mid range as well….

      the numbers put him close to what lamarcus aldridge was and i think he might evolve to something like that… a guy who spots up on offense for the most part and passable elsewhere… kp has better defensive potential if he can be better on def rotations and stop picking up silly fouls… but he has to start making real gains next year….

    51. I’m usually hesitant to write off bad seasons from players by saying they were hurt by their teammates, but I really want to see what KP will do with a point guard who’s actually interested in something other than out-of-control drives and long twos. I don’t think we necessarily have to draft a point guard (I’d be more than fine with Isaac, for example) but I do think it’s important that we acquire one somehow.

      Hell, Josh Magette averaged 9.4 assists per game in the D League this year. He’d probably be an awful NBA player, but I’d be happy to sign him to the minimum with the idea that he’d be the Designated Porzingis Setter Upper.

    52. He’d probably be an awful player but I’d like to sign him? Ok.

    53. No one thought KP would even be at this level 2 years in when we first drafted him. Let’s give the guy a chance to grow into his body and his game please.

    54. He’d probably be an awful player but I’d like to sign him? Ok.

      Not everyone is as good as Tony Wroten

    55. Josh Magette certainly isn’t. And mentioning Tony Wroten certainly doesn’t make Josh any better.

      So please explain again how signing a guy who you think will be an awful player is a good move for the franchise?

    56. KP made strides in his screen setting towards the end of the season and he improved his reading of the defense and ability to mix it up and react when acting as the roll man in PNR. I also thought he started doing a better job of getting post position and holding it as the season went along, but out guards suck so hard at recognizing mismatches and making entry passes.

      The big things he needs to work on are boxing out and grabbing defensive rebounds, not committing stupid fouls, staying on his feet when closing out on shooters or contesting players at the rim. He also needs a go to, pet move in the post and one when he faces up that isn’t an elongated crossover. His iso game and shot creation was better, but still has much room to go before we can bank on him as a primary type of option. Decision making in general needs to improve, but that can be applied to basically every young player.

      I also think another summer in the gym will pay dividends in more consistent, year long 3 point shooting. Next year is when I expected to see big jump from him, but I thought he may have been making that leap at the start of this season. Unfortunately he couldn’t sustain that, but it looked like a physical issue for him rather than the underlying skills in his game getting found out or teams just shutting him down after familarity.

      3rd year will be very interesting to see how he progresses.

    57. I know I don’t make the rules around here but if Reub is just going to take up space as a troll who has no interest in genuine discussion I don’t see the point of keeping him around

      For the same reason we don’t institutionalize that crazy homeless man in our town who yells crazy shit at people as they walk by – we feel sorry for him knowing he’s relatively harmless and has nowhere else to go.

    58. most good players do make that leap either in their second or third years… it’s nice to be patient but if you’re expecting him to be an allstar it probably won’t occur unless he starts making real gains now….

    59. At 7’3″, I’d like to see KP learn to pass from the top of the key with the ball above his head, a la Gasol or Jokic. That would require a motion-oriented offense with lots of cuts and dives, and we all know that Rose and Carmelo are totally incapable of that.

    60. @63 Sometimes that crazy homeless man turns out to be like Eddie Murphy in that classic Trading Places movie…the smartest man in the room who just needed a fair chance. And the so-called know it all expert like Dan Aykroyd was, is, in reality, truly unable to fend for himself or even keep himself properly groomed.

    61. @67

      But most of the time the homeless man is like you, full of shit and a nuisance.

    62. De’Aaron Fox has moved up to #4 on NBA.com’s draft board. Their writer also speculates Ntilikina has a chance of cracking a team’s top 5 if he kills it in an individual workout.

      No offense meant to you, PhilMelo, but holy shit is that article poorly written.

    63. No offense meant to you, PhilMelo, but holy shit is that article poorly written.

      None taken. I just wanted to start off a conversation about the draft again. Anyone agree with the rankings?

    64. I think Ntilikina will climb up draft boards once teams see him in person. I just wouldn’t be that concerned about him not having elite athleticism, considering that he’s at least 6’5″ with an enormous wingspan. It’s not like he’s a bad athlete or anything.

    65. Just saw a classic Shaq a fool play where Harrison lets the ball roll up to midcourt without touching it to save the shot clock and then accidentally kicks it before he picks it up for a turnover.

    66. its insane the amount of minutes Lebron is playing this season. especially recently

    67. if we really want to talk about stuff it’s too late to do anything about……turns out, trading THJ for the pick that got us Grant was not only a bad deal, but without it, the Chi deal probably doesn’t happen!

    68. its insane the amount of minutes Lebron is playing this season. especially recently

      HGH is a hell of a drug.

    69. Ty Lue is a shit coach, simple as that.

      Cavs got smacked by the Hawks team that sat all their studs. Lebron with 40+ minutes.

      Eastern Playoffs may be more interesting than we think.

      its like down 17 with 3 mins to go, you just gotta keep Lebron and the rest of the starters in and give him even more minutes smh

    70. Are they really gonna make us sweat this bullshit out? The 6th pick is far from guaranteed.

    71. Randle looks like he doesn’t belong tonight. He’s dribbling too much, not aware of the shot clock and taking wild shots.

    72. Randle has given up a ton of threes to Conley by not sticking with him.

    73. Baker hasn’t distinguished himself either. If he can’t shoot he’s a net negative for us. His defense is usually good though.

    74. Grant is either equal or better at literally everything except rebounding and is much younger, will be much cheaper, and actually fills more of a need. At a certain point you have to just be willing to admit we fucked up. No one cares about Reub’s drivel but it’s annoying to see otherwise good posters being intellectually dishonest about this.

      tnfh, first of all, no reason to be such a douche about this. Second of all, did you actually look at your player comparison? Holiday has the same PER (since they have the same usage%, the flaws w/ PER are irrelevant), a higher TS%, a MUCH higher eFG%, is a better rebounder, turns the ball over less, and blocks more shots, so your point is basically bullshit. If anything, they are similarly mediocre players. If you want to give Grant the edge because he’s cheaper and younger, I’d counter that the 2nd round pick in a deep draft balances that out. Third of all, I never was thrilled with the Rose trade, only said that it wasn’t a trade with much downside unless Grant developed significantly (which is debatable, but 900 minutes is to small of a sample size to tell) or we resigned Rose. If you go back to when the trade was made and read my posts, you would see that I said that I wouldn’t resign him no matter how well he played, and that getting back Lopez’s cap space is a consideration in determining risk. I also said that the PG market was terribly thin and the non-mobile low-post center market was less so, so taking a risk on Rose was reasonable, especially in freeing up Calderon’s cap space. That they turned around and squandered the space on Noah is a separate issue for me and shouldn’t be considered in evaluating the trade, as I have pointed out countless times. So your premise that I “defended” the trade is intellectually lazy and your need to be so condescending is intellectually dishonest.

    75. Are they really gonna make us sweat this bullshit out? The 6th pick is far from guaranteed.

      Not guaranteed, but looking pretty darn close to it right now. This team isn’t beating Toronto, ya know? And if they don’t beat Toronto, Minny and Sacramento would have to lose out just to tie the Knicks (presuming that the Knicks beat Philly, which is likely).

    76. Sacramento’s little win streak, by the way, sets up the most ultimately effed up scenario ever.

      Okay, so check this out. Let’s say Sacramento wins a couple more games and Minny passes them and so does Dallas (which has lost three straight). That would put Sacramento in the #9 spot for no good reason at all. But this is why that’s important. Now imagine that the #10 team and the #11 team both jump into the Top 3. Well, the #10 team is New Orleans, which means that Sacramento would no longer get that pick, since it is Top 3 protected. So that would suck. But if both of those teams move up, that would mean Sacramento would move down to the #11 pick. And guess who owes their first round pick to Chicago if their pick is not in the top 10? You guessed it! So there’s at least a possibility that Sacramento could go from having two top 10 picks to having no first round picks. The odds are very low of that happening, but they’re a lot higher now that they keep winning games than it was when they weren’t winning.

      Oh, and of course, on the off chance that Sacramento gets “lucky” and ends up moving into the top 3 (maybe even #1?), Philly has swap rights with them this year, so Philly would get that pick.

      It makes me happy to know that there is a franchise that is managed shittier than the Knicks.

    77. That makes me thankful that for all that’s gone wrong here, at least we have all our 1st round picks.

    78. I’m rooting for lakers to miss the lottery and top 3.

      Knicks and pelicans land in the top 3

    79. Sacramento’s little win streak, by the way, sets up the most ultimately effed up scenario ever.

      Okay, so check this out. Let’s say Sacramento wins a couple more games and Minny passes them and so does Dallas (which has lost three straight). That would put Sacramento in the #9 spot for no good reason at all. But this is why that’s important. Now imagine that the #10 team and the #11 team both jump into the Top 3. Well, the #10 team is New Orleans, which means that Sacramento would no longer get that pick, since it is Top 3 protected. So that would suck. But if both of those teams move up, that would mean Sacramento would move down to the #11 pick. And guess who owes their first round pick to Chicago if their pick is not in the top 10? You guessed it! So there’s at least a possibility that Sacramento could go from having two top 10 picks to having no first round picks. The odds are very low of that happening, but they’re a lot higher now that they keep winning games than it was when they weren’t winning.

      Oh, and of course, on the off chance that Sacramento gets “lucky” and ends up moving into the top 3 (maybe even #1?), Philly has swap rights with them this year, so Philly would get that pick.

      It makes me happy to know that there is a franchise that is managed shittier than the Knicks.

      I am thankful for you, Brian. Good stuff.

    80. Thank you, Brian. I just want the Lakers to keep their pick so that Phiily doesn’t get it. They’ve had enough bites of the apple already.

    81. I’m definitely rooting for Philly to get LA’s pick. The Lakers were arrogant and reckless and for there to be almost no punish for it, especially after the insane luck that their location and history has brought them over the last 20 years would be unfair.

    82. Latke, if Philly gets much better they could keep us out of the deep playoffs for years. I’d rather see the Lakers improve instead.

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