Knicks Morning News (2016.03.08)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Kristaps Porzingis sees dip in production (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 06:38:39 GMT)

    There was a time, not too long ago, when Kristaps Porzingis was in a neck-and-neck race for the Rookie of the Year award.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo makes pitch for Rondo: He’s ‘perfect’ for Knicks system (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 06:37:53 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony professed his desire to increase his role in free agency, and started it with a public pitch for point guard Rajon Rondo.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks have yet to hire a worthy replacement for Van Gundy (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:19:40 GMT)

    Jeff Van Gundy was in his hotel room on the morning of March 8, 1996 preparing for a game against Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls.

  • [New York Daily News] Three reasons Rajon Rondo is not a good fit for the Knicks (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 01:53:05 GMT)

    Despite the counterarguments from Carmelo Anthony and Phil Jackson, Rajon Rondo is correct — he’s not a good fit for the triangle.

  • [New York Times] Curry Is First Player to Make 300 3s in a Single Season (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:15:33 GMT)

    As all the records keep piling up for Stephen Curry, he is far from ready to pick a favorite.

  • [New York Times] Warriors 119, Magic 113: Curry Makes 300th 3-Pointer as Warriors Get Back on Track (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 06:50:45 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 41 points against the Orlando Magic, and Golden State shook off Sunday’s loss by improving to 56-6.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Set Record With 27th Straight Home Win (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 06:39:29 GMT)

    The Golden State Warriors broke the NBA record for consecutive home-court victories Monday night, getting a combined 68 points from backcourt mates Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson in a hard-earned, 119-113 win over the Orlando Magic.

  • [New York Times] NBA Capsules (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 06:21:42 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 41 points and became the first player in NBA history to make 300 3-pointers in a season, and the Golden State Warriors set another record in a season full of them by holding off the Orlando Magic 119-113 Monday night for their 45th straight home victory.

  • [New York Times] Ellis, George Combine to Lead Pacers Past Spurs (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:51:30 GMT)

    When the Indiana Pacers lost at San Antonio in December, Monta Ellis and Paul George scored a combined 13 points on 4 of 24 field-goal shooting, helping the Spurs pull away to a comfortable 14-point victory.

  • [New York Times] Davis Scores 31, Pelicans Storm Back to Beat Kings, 115-112 (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:30:37 GMT)

    Anthony Davis and the Pelicans refuse to give up on what has been a largely disappointing, injury-riddled season.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Without Popovich as Guide, the Spurs Fall to the Pacers (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:12:09 GMT)

    With Coach Gregg Popovich absent because of an unspecified family matter, San Antonio fell at Indiana, which got 26 points from Monta Ellis.

  • [New York Times] Butler Sits With Knee Soreness While Bulls Beat Bucks 100-90 (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:03:43 GMT)

    Jimmy Butler was sidelined by swelling in his left knee, and then Aaron Brooks and Bobby Portis left with two more injuries.

  • [New York Times] NBA-Ellis, George Combine to Lead Pacers Past Spurs (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:54:27 GMT)

    When the Indiana Pacers lost at San Antonio in December, Monta Ellis and Paul George scored a combined 13 points on 4 of 24 field-goal shooting, helping the Spurs pull away to a comfortable 14-point victory.

  • [New York Times] Paul, Clippers Storm Past Mavs in 2nd Half of 109-90 Win (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:33:48 GMT)

    Chris Paul scored 18 of his 27 points when Los Angeles took control in the third quarter, DeAndre Jordan had 23 points and 20 rebounds amid another round of boos in Dallas and the Clippers beat the Mavericks 109-90 Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Missing 4 Starters, Grizzlies Stun Sloppy Cavaliers 106-103 (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:00:41 GMT)

    When word reached the Cavaliers’ locker room shortly before tip-off that the Memphis Grizzlies were down four starters, LeBron James got an uneasy feeling.

  • [New York Times] Pacers Take Control Early, Surprise Spurs With 99-91 Victory (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 03:57:39 GMT)

    Three-time All-Star Paul George took it upon himself to chart the Pacers’ course Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Walker Scores 34, Hornets Hold Off Timberwolves 108-103 (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 03:03:34 GMT)

    Kemba Walker scored 21 of his 34 points in the third quarter and the Charlotte Hornets held off the Minnesota Timberwolves 108-103 on Monday night for their fourth straight win.

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    46 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2016.03.08)”

    1. And how in god’s name did we not get lottery protection on that pick for Bargnani? [smashes head on desk]

      There was already an unprotected pick swap with Denver from the Melo trade, so we were screwed-ish no matter what.

    2. There was already an unprotected pick swap with Denver from the Melo trade, so we were screwed-ish no matter what.

      They likely felt that it was improbable that both they and Denver would both be terrible this season. Shockingly, yet another dumb assumption by this team.

    3. If our plan this summer is using all our cap space on one player to push us over the top, we might as well skip to the next team president.

      I thought giving someone like Rondo the Max would be the worst move we could make, hence would make it the most likely outcome. However that’s not Knicky enough. We need to do a needless sign & trade with so the player can maximize their profits, and we lose even more assets. That seems likely.

      Although I really see Phil striking out with the Max guys and being happy with signing a pair of next-tier free agents. I could make a list, but I can’t find a place that quickly allows me to sort next year’s free agents by points per game.

    4. There was already an unprotected pick swap with Denver from the Melo trade, so we were screwed-ish no matter what.

      True, but that didn’t prevent us from adding protection to the pick we had to surrender to Toronto. I think it’s more like what Brian indicated: they probably figured it was unlikely both picks were going to be in the lottery so didn’t bother to ask.

      And does anyone think in a million years Ujiri would have turned that trade down if we’d insisted on it?

      As an aside, the picks we traded for Melo and Bargnani plus the picks Brooklyn traded for KG and Pierce are the only outstanding draft picks that were traded without protection. I’d be curious to know when the last time any team other than the Knicks or Nets traded an unprotected pick. It pretty much ended for most teams when we whole world watched Memphis hand the #2 pick in the LeBron draft over to Detroit.

    5. Since it is a given that he is never leaving, I guess the question is how much can Melo screw the roster over before he retires.

    6. When Melo resigns here, will it be for the super max or will he settle for a Kobe-like contract of “just” $30 million a year?

    7. Although I really see Phil striking out with the Max guys and being happy with signing a pair of next-tier free agents. I could make a list, but I can’t find a place that quickly allows me to sort next year’s free agents by points per game.

      lol.

      But seriously, I don’t see anyone offering Rondo a max deal, so if Melo convinces Phil to put that on the table, it’s being snatched.

    8. When Melo resigns here, will it be for the super max or will he settle for a Kobe-like contract of “just” $30 million a year?

      Please stop. It hurts too much to laugh.

    9. This was my favorite part of that article, by the way:

      “I think Rondo — just me personally, I don’t want to be tampering — but I’ve heard he said he wouldn’t thrive in a system like this,” Anthony said. “I think he’d be perfect in a system like this.”

      I’m pretty sure that is at least on the border of tampering.

    10. They likely felt that it was improbable that both they and Denver would both be terrible this season.

      At that point teams led by superstar Carmelo Anthony had never missed the playoffs, so the pick was obviously going to be a low one.

    11. Yes, as Ted and others mentioned, what have we given up for him?

      A late first round pick in 2016 who probably isn’t going to be given time to develop given that the Knicks are going to presumably be throwing out an All-Star lineup and patching together solid veterans around it?

      The Knicks aren’t rebuilding now and won’t be in 2016.

      Oh that’s the good stuff right there

    12. Since it is a given that he is never leaving, I guess the question is how much can Melo screw the roster over before he retires.

      Melo has never had control of the roster. If he did JR and Shumpert would still be here, and so would Josh Selby

    13. If Melo wants to help recruit free agents that’s cool but really he should ask for a trade.

    14. Yeah, Melo should definitely just take that trade to LA. Everybody wins in that scenario.

    15. Awesome.

      Tony “Tank Commander” Wroten

      Every time I read this guy’s name, Neil Young’s lyrics…. ” The king is gone, but he’s not forgotten!” come to mind like some endless ear worm…..

    16. Why are you guys so pessimistic when we just got Wroten? What’s wrong with you people?

    17. Why are you guys so pessimistic when we just got Wroten? What’s wrong with you people?

      He’s going to take the Knicks on a Lin-esque magical run.

      Or he’ll Cheikh Samb.

      Either one really.

    18. Why are you guys so pessimistic when we just got Wroten? What’s wrong with you people?

      Where’s the angle, here? There’s a joke in here somewhere, and I’m missing it.

    19. And how in god’s name did we not get lottery protection on that pick for Bargnani?

      Bargnani was lottery protection. Just like Anthony before him. And Eddy Curry before him.

      James Dolan has such a supreme confidence that he is certain that he wins every trade he makes. “We don’t need no stinkin’ lottery protections!”

      And, honestly, in the scheme of things, it’s probably the least of his hubris. The last time the Knicks put lottery protections on a pick it really screwed them. It took 6 years to pay the Marbury debt, and the protections finally came off of it at the worst time possible: when Walsh was in dire need of cheap young talent with upside to dangle in front of LeBron.

      I think lottery protections ultimately just punt one administrations debt onto their successor. It’s better to bite the bullet and pay for what you get now rather than later. (The real key is to not trade your draft picks at all!)

    20. I generally agree that strict lottery protections are a bit of a waste, but I think it makes sense to protect yourself on the high end of the lottery. Like the Lakers’ pick this year. It is better for them to give it up next year than it would be to give it up this year, when they’re likely to have a top four pick. So I think Isiah should have gotten at least top three protection on the Curry picks. It’s not like Chicago would have said no to that. In that scenario, the Knicks end up with LaMarcus Aldridge instead of Danillo Gallinari. They had the #9 pick the next year, but with Aldridge, I bet that pick would have been in the tens and who knows what their pick would have looked like in 2008 when the Bulls would have swapped picks with them?

    21. I think lottery protections ultimately just punt one administrations debt onto their successor.

      ding ding ding ding ding

      Just like ruruland was able to make all of those bold predictions because if shit hit the fan (and it did) he would abandon ship and stop posting here.

      Except he didn’t even get paid for his worthless prognostication.

    22. Dwight would be interested in New York. Meh.

      If we were talking about the Orlando version of Howard, yes please. Current version of Howrad, definitely a big meh.

      I did see that he raised he was interested in the ESPN article quizing last post-seasons free agents about their meeting with FA’s. Interesting to hear that all had pretty positive things to say about the meetings (Jordan mentioned it was tough to say no after the meeting). Ultimately though, you have to question how much is just lip service considering of the guys the got comments from in the article, Lopez was the only one who bought in. Still, interesting to hear Phil may have a bit more clout with these FA’s than we have given credit.

    23. Howard is still really good, but he’s old and probably not worth $30M a year.

    24. Yeah. I mean Howard makes this team better, but for 2-2.5x the money RoLo currently makes, I’d rather not make that deal in a vacuum. If we’re going to be stubborn and not trade Melo, give me Batum and Chalmers for that money.

    25. Howard is probably underrated at this point, but is someone really giving that dude a max deal? He’s thought of as a Jonah, he’s had back problems, and he’s got a ton of miles on his legs.

    26. Now if you could somehow turn RoLo (and Calderon) into, say, Kyrie Irving, I’d be all for signing a guy like Dwight Howard. I’d honestly prefer we target Whiteside over Howard, but if that’s who is willing to come here then you make the deal I guess. It’s a very “meh” proposition though.

    27. Please, Lord, someone tell me that the Knicks will NOT sign Rajon Rondo in the offseason. Not at any price. Please.

    28. Howard’s a great player, but yeah, he doesn’t make sense, especially not for the Knicks’ entire cap space (that’s presuming Afflalo even opts out, which is not a certainty at this point – if Afflalo doesn’t opt out, they don’t even really have the room to sign Howard). He’s a guy you sign if you think you have a chance at winning a title in 2017. Not a dude you pay $30 million a year to rebuild. So I put the odds of him signing here roughly at 70%.

    29. Rondo does boast a WP/48 of .235, though. He shoots 35% from 3, too. 11 points, 12 assists, and 6 rebounds a night.

      He’s not a triangle guy, but he’s not as bad as his scoring efficiency. In other words, if you want Rubio, you should want Rondo.

    30. No doubt Howard is still a very good player. I would have concerns paying him big money with his recent history of injuries. Any time a player that has what looks like chronic back issues is a pretty big red flag in my eyes, regardless of how good they are. Potentially risky move for most teams that would look to rely on him heavily.

    31. Rondo showers 5 times a day. You want to give millions of dollars to that sort of weirdo?

    32. Rondo does boast a WP/48 of .235, though. He shoots 35% from 3, too. 11 points, 12 assists, and 6 rebounds a night.

      Imagine a genie appeared and suddenly gave Calderon length, speed, quickness, and wiry strength while keeping his high IQ intact, but made him promise he would never use any of those things to improve his NBA defense in any way from its current level. There is a reason the Kings are worse with Rondo on the floor, despite the fact that he plays most of his minutes with Cousins. The guy is James Harden on defense and not at all James Harden on offense. I would take Rubio over him faster than you can say five second violation. I don’t see how anyone can watch him play this year and want that dude on their team.

    33. also because Cousins ain’t that good either tho

      he been assbutter this year, but of course he leads all frontcourt players in points per minute

    34. I think Cousins is pretty good. I know he does badly in Adj(unct)WhiteProfessor/48, but he is still pretty good. He’s a good defender, and while his offense is choppy, it has its merits. I mean, what is assbutter if not a fragrant soup of pleasant pheromones that occasionally finds itself in the wrong spot and becomes too much of a good thing? Plus, RPM fucking loves him, which I know comes with the opacity of a Bloomberg endorsement, but it still beats something you know for a fact is stupid like getting the nod from Sarah Palin (hi WP).

    35. hahahahahahaha Adjunct White Professor/48

      that’s fucking brilliant, I love it

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