Knicks Morning News (2015.03.23)

  • [New York Times] Not 1, but 2 Gonzaga Hoops Teams in the Sweet 16 (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 06:37:42 GMT)

    Gonzaga left KeyArena roaring and Gill Coliseum in silence almost simultaneously Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Warriors, Hawks Prioritizing Health Over NBA’s Best Record (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 06:28:58 GMT)

    Barring a major turn of events, the only thing the Golden State Warriors and Atlanta Hawks have left to play for is the NBA’s best record.

  • [New York Times] Goodwin, Morris Hit Big Shots, Suns Beat Mavs 98-92 (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 05:11:04 GMT)

    Archie Goodwin hasn’t made a bigger shot in his young NBA career.

  • [New York Times] Lin’s Season-High 29 Points Help Lakers Beat 76ers (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 04:31:51 GMT)

    Jeremy Lin scored a season-high 29 points, and the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Philadelphia 76ers 101-87 on Sunday night in the first meeting of the season between two of the NBA’s worst teams.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Game of the Week: Spurs at Mavericks (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:19:21 GMT)

    San Antonio and Dallas are barely separated in the standings, but the Spurs are playing their best basketball of the season, and the Mavericks are still trying to adjust to roster changes.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Lose 3rd Straight; Russell Westbrook Sinks Heat (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:10:12 GMT)

    Tiago Splitter scored a season-high 23 for the Spurs as San Antonio won its third straight and Atlanta, which leads the Eastern Conference, lost its third straight.

  • [New York Times] Hornets Upend Timberwolves 109-98 (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:34:51 GMT)

    Mo Williams scored 24 points and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Al Jefferson each added 18 and the Charlotte Hornets snapped their three-game skid by beating Minnesota 109-98 on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Gallinari Scores 40, Nuggets Beat Magic 119-100 (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:49:41 GMT)

    Danilo Gallinari scored a career-high 40 points and former Magic guard Jameer Nelson came off the bench to ignite a big rally Sunday night, leading the Denver Nuggets to a 119-100 victory over Orlando.

  • [New York Times] Kings Win Second Straight, Beat Wizards 109-86 (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:40:56 GMT)

    Rudy Gay scored 26 points and the Sacramento Kings led most of the way in beating the Washington Wizards 109-86 on Sunday for their second straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Drummond, Caldwell-Pope Lead Pistons Past Celtics in OT (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:40:44 GMT)

    Andre Drummond scored 18 points and grabbed 22 rebounds, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope had seven of his 27 points in overtime and the Detroit Pistons beat the Boston Celtics 105-97 on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Steve Nash Stands on His Own as an Ideal of Team Play (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:08:49 GMT)

    Nash’s artistry during the height of his abilities with the Suns stood out as the essence of individual expression connected to the welfare of the team.

  • [New York Times] Even Without Kyle Lowry, the Raptors Trounce the Anemic Knicks (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 00:45:10 GMT)

    Lowry, second on the Raptors in scoring, was inactive, but DeMar DeRozan led Toronto with 23 points as the Knicks lost their third in a row.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks drop third straight with 106-89 loss to Raptors (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 05:48:02 GMT)

    The cruising NBA team, and not the bumbling local NHL entry, has emerged as the unlikely star attraction in these parts north of the border.

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    65 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.03.23)”

    1. If we do fall out of the top three, what is the consensus pick? I see a lot of people like stanley johnson, but i really like Justise Winslow, he reminds me of MKG with a better jumpshot.

    2. Funny how many of the posters nauseated by the thought of Cousins on the Knicks felt the same way about Zach Randloph, a low-post double-double machine with an immature attitude, inefficient shoot-first mentality, etc. Meanwhile, he has become a pretty damn player for one of the league’s best team, at a reasonable salary. I mean, he’s no KB fave David Lee, but still…

      Another inefficient problem child big man to compare Cousins to is Rasheed Wallace.

      Cousins may be better than either of these two guys.

    3. winslow has been tearing it up as of late and has really improved his stock… he does have the look of a solid #4 pick albeit a distant 4…

    4. Cousins may be better than either of these two guys.

      But even if that was to be true (and it might be), this is not the moment to try to nab some finished product for the sake of talent. We need to build from a clean slate as much as possible, especially character wise. DeMarcus Cousins could be a good fit in a stable environment, for example Boston. But here? I highly doubt it.

      If we finish with the worst record, we have our destiny in our hand (yes, even picking at 4th). By trading for Cousins, we could handicap ourselves with a middle-to-bad character guy.

      If it was Melo for Cousins? I’d do in a nanosecond. But our top-4 pick for Cousins and the 7th pick? I’d say no.

    5. I wouldn’t touch Winslow with a ten-foot pole in the first 6 picks, but I would draft him before Mudiay, yes.

      After Towns-Okafor, I’d go this way:

      Russell
      WCS
      Johnson
      Turner
      Winslow
      Mudiay

    6. The Knicks are so far from mediocracy they shouldn’t do anything other than accumulate assets and hope to be extremely lucky in the draft. Not Kenyon Martin lucky. Dwight Howard lucky. Which basically amounts to hoping for a miracle.

      Cousins? Are you kidding me? A center shooting %46.8??? With 4.2 TO’s??? These are god awful numbers for a center. And with a difficult character to boot??

    7. I really like Cousins, seemingly more than most other posters on the board, but also agree that it is not the right kind of move for us to be making. Cousins is a young, borderline all-star caliber player who can still get significantly better, but adding him to this team still leaves you well short of anything like a contender, and forfeits the long-term potential upside of making and retaining a top-pick.

      And on a side note, the notion that trading the pick for Cousins is a bad idea just highlights to me that really trading the pick for anybody is a bad idea. Cousins would be about as good of a realistic target as there is in my opinion (i.e. Brow would be a good target, but I doubt the Pelicans are taking offers) . He’s very young, he’s very good, he’s signed to a good contract, he plays both ends of the court for the most part. He has had some personal issues, but has also been in an absurdly bad situation which I see as a significant mitigating factor. And I still wouldn’t strongly consider it unless we somehow drop to like the 5th or 6th pick. Basically I think Phil can pretty much stop calling around about trading the pick.

    8. Cousins is a young, borderline all-star caliber player who can still get significantly better

      Borderline all-star, i.e. scores a lot of points

    9. I think it’s idiotic to avoid a player because he’s perceived as a “star”. Yeah, we’re far away from being good. Assuming you all think Melo is at least good, we need 4 players around him. We draft 1. We sign 3 others. This is not the NFL where you need 20+ excellent players or the MLB where you need about a dozen. Depth is not my concern now. Getting 3 “great” free agent parts that will work well together is.

      So, if you don’t like Cousins because you don’t think he’ll work in the system or is a head case, that’s one thing. Please just don’t rule out a player so that we can acquire a bunch of complimentary but just “OK” parts.

    10. Borderline all-star, i.e. scores a lot of points

      I don’t think we really need to have this argument for the thousandth time, but he also gets a lot of rebounds, plays good defense, and can’t be single teamed in the post. The Kings offense gets worse and the defense craters when he sits. But yes, his WP/48 isn’t nearly as high as Reggie Evans, so I guess we should try to trade the pick for Evans instead maybe.

    11. Depth is not my concern now.

      Actually, I think that if we got three right pieces our rotation would be pretty much set.

      Calderon/Galloway
      ?
      Melo (sigh – I’d prefer him at the 4)
      ?
      ?

      Galloway/Calderon
      THJ
      Lance Thomas
      Amundson
      Aldrich
      Thanasis
      Early

      The bench is awful in terms of shot creation, but is okay on every other aspect (especially if Galloway is the reserve and Jose the starter). A Shved type would come in handy from the bench, just for the drives to the basket, but I don’t think we could keep him for the minimum, so please, that’s the door Alexei.

    12. If those 3 ?s are replaced with Harden, Brow and Gasol that team would be pretty good!

    13. Again, the question wasn’t Cousins for our pick, it was Cousins PLUS a #7 pick for our pick. To me that’s a tough call; not because I love Cousins, but because I don’t see how we’re going to get three quality starters this off season. One high draft pick plus cap space for two non-max players is not a solid recipe for success.

      And yes, we could try for just our draft pick plus one quality signing, but even that’s hard, and next year EVERYONE HAS LOTS OF CAP ROOM.

      So, on the one hand, Cousins/Melo/Draymond/THJR/Mudiay is our best-case next-year scenario. On the other, I’d probably drink bleach before rooting for that team.

    14. Depends on what you intend with “relevance”.

      If by relevance we’re talking about 8th seed, I’d say so. This is by no mean the end goal, and it should not be pursued with quick fixes. But are you telling me that with the right infusion of talent we wouldn’t be able to fight with the likes of Charlotte or Boston for the 8th seed?

      What is important, and that’s something you rightfully stress so much, is that we don’t skip any step. If we build the team the right way and end next year 11th, so be it. It’s a shame we pay so much money to an aging scorer who probably won’t be around to win it all when we’ll be ready, but that’s the hand we dealt to ourselves. But if we don’t misstep, we could be on track to get back to the playoffs soon.

    15. If those 3 ?s are replaced with Harden, Brow and Gasol that team would be pretty good!

      Lol.

      But seriously, let’s say (realistic scenario) we have Russell, Robin Lopez and Amir Johnson. That’s an interesting starting five to me (in the East).

    16. Cousins/Melo/Draymond/THJR/Mudiay is our best-case next-year scenario.

      Ouch.

      But the sheer presence of Draymond would make that team rootable anyway.

    17. the #7 pick in this draft is closer to #20 than it is #4 roughly speaking… it is a throw in and the obvious centerpiece is cousins outperforming one of the top 3 picks… and unless they take calderon and hardaway… cousins would have to WILDLY outperform the pick just due to the salaries involved…

      that scenario would only happen if whoever the knicks would’ve picked turned into a bust… towns/okafor/russell all project to be all stars on some level… if they wind up being superior players which is very likely… you are looking at a 1-2 year window where cousins will be the better player and then years 3-10 paying for that mistake…

    18. My ten reruns: first pick two times, third pick five (!) times, fourth pick three times.

      I have to say that it’s a pair of weeks I’m operating under the assumption we’ll have the third pick. I don’t know why.

    19. There is a 36% chance we get the 4th pick, even if we have the worst record. Knowing the Knicks’ luck…

      You also kind of get the feeling we will end up with Okafor and have to deal with an awful defense for years to come.

    20. But the sheer presence of Draymond would make that team rootable anyway.

      That’s why the best thing to do would be to trade Melo for picks. Which isn’t going to happen, but otherwise…we just can’t get there from here.

      I guess you could make a case that if

      1) we get Towns, and he lives up to potential on both ends of the floor, and

      2) we pick up a top FA like Kawhi, and

      3) we pick up a second decent and inexpensive FA like … ? and

      4) Melo stays healthy

      … then we could build a championship team. But that is, er, well, not entirely likely.

    21. Just to pile on…this is always a fun re-read:

      2015 second round draft pick to Houston
      New York’s 2015 2nd round pick to Houston [Houston-New York, 7/11/2012]

      2016 first round draft pick to Denver
      Denver has the right to swap its 2016 1st round pick for New York’s 2016 1st round pick [Denver-Minnesota-New York, 2/22/2011]; New York will convey the less favorable of these two picks to Toronto (see New York Debits)

      2016 first round draft pick to Toronto
      New York will convey the less favorable of its 2016 1st round pick and Denver’s 2016 1st round pick to Toronto (via Denver’s right to swap for New York) [Denver-Minnesota-New York, 2/22/2011; New York-Toronto, 7/10/2013]

      2016 second round draft pick to Houston
      New York’s 2016 2nd round pick to Houston (via Portland to Sacramento then removal of protection from New York) [New York-Portland, 7/15/2012; New Orleans-Portland-Sacramento, 7/10/2013; New York-Sacramento, 8/6/2014; Houston-Sacramento, 9/17/2014]

      2017 second round draft pick to Utah
      New York’s 2017 2nd round pick to Utah (via Toronto) [New York-Toronto, 7/10/2013; Toronto-Utah, 7/10/2014]

      2018 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
      Philadelphia will receive the more favorable of the L.A. Clippers’ 2018 2nd round pick and New York’s 2018 2nd round pick and New York will receive the less favorable of these two picks (via Philadelphia’s right to swap L.A. Clippers for New York) [L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/20/2014; New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]; this pick conveyance is the same as the one described in “2018 second round draft pick from L.A. Clippers” on Philadelphia Credits

      2019 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
      New York’s 2019 2nd round pick to Philadelphia [New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]

    22. @13 – Let’s be serious here. Jennifer Lawrence, yes. Bargnani, no.
      @15 – My point exactly. Cobbling together a bench is easy when you have a core-5.
      @16 – Yes. Just we went from a 54 win team to a 37 win team in one year, the flip side is also possible.

    23. @29 – your post is more depressing than the Knicks record. It says we won’t be able to build through the draft during this decade.

    24. The more you look at Kaminsky, the more intriguing he gets. I could totally see Jackson trading down for him and another young starter.

    25. I don’t know man, Kaminsky is good but he is probably a good 6th or 7th guy in the NBA, not a quality starter. I’d rather have a potential star locked up for several years than a highly-paid 2 year rental and Kaminsky.

    26. We picked up a couple of future 2nd rounders in the Prigioni deal and those can also often be bought.

    27. Farfa,

      I think Shved is the likely backup for Calderon, not Galloway. I am not sure why people put Galloway as a point guard. I couldn’t figure out what position he played in the past, but his college numbers show scoring as a strong point rather than assists. Of course, we might not be able to keep Shved, but still he seems more likely as backup point guard to me.

    28. I don’t know man, Kaminsky is good but he is probably a good 6th or 7th guy in the NBA, not a quality starter. I’d rather have a potential star locked up for several years than a highly-paid 2 year rental and Kaminsky.

      Why don’t you think Kaminsky can be a high quality starter in the league?

      Per -40 — 22 points, 10 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 1.8 blocks
      59.6% from 2 point range, 40.7% from 3 point range
      TS% trend – 50–>56–>61–>63
      Doesn’t foul – 1.9 fouls per 40

      Statistically it’s easy to argue that he’s the best offensive player in the country and is the focal point of the very best D1 offense in the country.

      If we somehow get stuck with the 4th or 5th pick (or maybe even 3rd!) I wouldn’t be surprised if Kaminsky was the pick.

    29. I think he is a great college player, I’m just not sure he will be able to do the same thing against athletic NBA players. I think he will be good – I do not think he will be nearly as dominant as he was in college. He will probably end up being a rich man’s Bargs.

    30. I would trade any player on the team to have Jennifer Lawrence as the end of bench towel waver…..

      I think Zebo and Cousins are pretty comparable. And while I would freely admit it’s worked out better than I thought it would in the case of Randolph, I really don’t see how saying Cousins ends up the next Zebo makes me feel an iota better about giving up a shot at Towns.

      You control players at a reasonable rate for a long, long time when you draft them. That’s worth a lot more than the next Zebo.

    31. I would add with Randolph, I think that he really is a case of a guy falling into the perfect situation. He is a guy who likes to shoot a lot surrounded by high quality defenders in Gasol, Allen, and Conley. That’s the model we should pursue with Melo, who we are stuck with.

    32. You control players at a reasonable rate for a long, long time when you draft them. That’s worth a lot more than the next Zebo.

      That’s my feeling on it.

      It’s very difficult to get good value in a negotiated transaction with competitive bidding (unless Dolan is on the other side). Good values are found in the draft and by getting a superstar, but you usually get superstars in the draft.

    33. Farfa why don’t you like Winslow over the other guys outside the top three of okafor, towns, russel?

      IMO he is the best wing defender in the class plus he can shoot and handle, i don’t know if he will be a superstar(durant/lebron) but i think with his skill set he has a chance to be a really good two-way player. He reminds me a lot of the better small forwards in the league: jimmy butler, paul george, and kawaii. Worst case i think he ends up like a trevor ariza strictly 3s and defense.

    34. Because I think that in this draft you have to pick a big or a complete player in the first 6 slots. To me Winslow’s ceiling is Danny Green, which is a good ceiling to have for any team that has a pick in the 7-10 slots AND has another first round pick in 2016, so, basically, not us. If we got the 4th pick this year (I sure hope not) and we managed to trade it for the 7th-8-th this year and a non conditional first pick next year maybe I’d consider him.

    35. Anyway, players I really don’t want to see picked by the Knicks: Porzingis, Hezonja, Kaminsky. Everyone of them has the potential to be a solid contributor for years, but we need more from this draft than high variance Euro prospects or Troy Murphy clones.

    36. I have to disagree on danny green as his ceiling, he is a way more above the rim athlete.

    37. I just looked up Troy Murphy on Bball-Reference and was extremely surprised at how effective he was during his career. His advanced stats, regular stats, and salary numbers were all quite impressive over his career. For some reason I recalled him to be a non-factor but the guy had several above average seasons.

    38. He was some sort of Kevin Love-lite, but with atrocious defense. A good cog in his prime, though.

      @45

      But Danny Green was (and probably could still be) an above the rim athlete. The fact that he plays for the Spurs highly limits his aerial prowess, although not on defense where he has the highest BLK% among guards in the last few years, but dude could jump with the best.

    39. Draft Towns
      Max out Draymond Green (or even sign Kevin Love)
      Sign Danny Green (is $10MM/year enough? or too much?)

      Starting lineup = Galloway or Calderon, Danny Green, Melo, Love/Draymond, Towns

      Is that good enough?

    40. Another guy im not sold on is D’Angelo Russell, mostly because the draft is a crapshoot. Comparing Russell, Evan Turner and James Harden in college they had a very similar statistical profile. The main thing that jumps out is Russell shoots way more threes then both of them and it would be fair to argue that he is a much better shooter than Turner.

      I think the main thing that makes Harden so good is his ability to get to the line, in college he was getting to the line 7.7 times a game, turner was getting there 6.7 times and Russell is only getting there 4.5 times a game.

      IMO the thing that held Turner back was his jump shooting and his ability to get to the line not translating to the league. My fear with Russell is that he wont be able to get to the line like Harden and a Harden who doesn’t get to the line isn’t that great a player.

      Eye test alert!! In watching Russell his first step isn’t that great in getting by defenders compared to james harden who is a very underrated athlete imo.

    41. Frank I would sign up for that but i don’t think we can get Love or Green. I was thinking what if we signed Hibbert instead, just try to grind it out play really slow and defensive ala 1990s Knicks.

      Starting lineup = Galloway or Calderon, Danny Green, Melo, Towns, Hibbert

    42. I hear you, Owen. Towns is super intriguing, but I don’t see “guaranteed star” written all over him. He fouls a lot and has some ultra-quiet games. Okafor? Damn, he’s a monster on O but more upside than Cousins? Yes, cheaper, but with Cousins, his floor is who he is right now, the best defensive rebounder in the league who is a mixed bag in everything else. Russell? I’ve watched him 3 times and he’s been underwhelming each time.

      @23 makes a very good point, but something tells me that the top 3 are just gonna be very good but not great, and the superstar from this draft is going to emerge from picks 4-20. Mudiay? Johnson? Kaminsky? Harrell? Looney? Winslow? Turner? The Euros? That #7 pick is not just a throw-in.

    43. Farfa, not sure why you are comparing Winslow to Danny Green. Winslow is a freshman and controlled that last game with defense, rebounding and scoring. Isn’t Danny Green basically a jump shooter? I see Winslow as more of a Kendall Gill/Jimmy Butler/Brandon Roy type – athletic two way all star caliber big guard. I’d rather have him and WCS than Towns or Okafor if that was a possibility.

    44. russell is more ginobilli and curry than harden… and not everyone has harden’s FTr… he’s more perimeter oriented and that’s fine…

      towns is a pretty safe bet to be somewhat of an above average center… a lot of ppl compare him to horford and the comparison’s are there but he was also better than horford at the same age… in fact there are lots of similarities between towns and duncan in their statistical profile…

      okafor is a safe bet also but that’s fairly obvious on the offensive side… the defensive side will determine whether he’s a fringe all star vs elite all star…

    45. “Kevin Love-lite, but with atrocious defense.”
      “Kevin Love-lite” made adding the words “atrocious defense” superfluous.

    46. Been out of the country on a boat. What’s this I hear about Ricky Ledo? Apparently he’s on the Knicks now? How’s he looking

    47. Been out of the country on a boat. What’s this I hear about Ricky Ledo? Apparently he’s on the Knicks now? How’s he looking

      Ricky Who?

    48. Anyone think Stephon Marbury (3 time champ in China now) would be the best player on this Knicks team? ;-)

    49. Anyone think Stephon Marbury (3 time champ in China now) would be the best player on this Knicks team? ;-)

      MVP! MVP! MVP!

      Stephon Marbury is proof positive that Mudiay would be a God awful lottery pick.

    50. Here’s an example that’s indicative of the entire Knicks fan/media experience and why building/re-building is and always will be so tough here. Ian Begley posted an article with the headline “Marc Gasol: I haven’t ruled out Knicks.” Based on that headline it would lead me to believe that somewhere in the article Marc Gasol is quoted as saying something specifically to the effect of “I haven’t ruled out the Knicks.” Yet, here is his quote: “I haven’t ruled anything out because I haven’t thought about anything so it would be [premature]. The reports & stuff like that, I don’t know where they come from because in my mind I haven’t thought about it.” I asked Begley how you could take that quote and make that leap he responded “He was asked specifically about the Knicks,” to which I responded if he’s ASKED specifically about the Knicks, by a Knicks reporter, & politely responds to that direct question & specifically avoids including the word “Knicks” in his diplomatic, politically correct response, isn’t that a bit of a leap? Begley’s response: He didn’t rule anyone out, including the Knicks; agree to disagree. I mean I get that he has a job to do, but this is the environment in which the Knicks have to try to improve and build patiently.

    51. @60

      I read the same article and had the same initial thought.

      “Oh hey, awesome! Maybe we do have a chance.” I was so excited I briefly forgot that I’m not actually in favor of signing him (he’s too expensive, and too old and we’re not close enough to justify it). Only to be disappointed once I actually read that utterly pointless clickbait. Only to, once again, remember that I didn’t want him in the first place. So, in the end, I came out alright.

    52. I was just casually scanning the TS% of all the Knicks this year. I compared their TS% this year to their lifetime TS%. It’s remarkable how many players are either below or well below their average this year. IMO, that screams system and coach.

    53. I was just casually scanning the TS% of all the Knicks this year. I compared their TS% this year to their lifetime TS%. It’s remarkable how many players are either below or well below their average this year. IMO, that screams system and coach.

      IMO, that screams normally 10th options are being forced to be options 1-3 and players that aren’t very good when they’re not even guarded suddenly become worse when they are.

      We put way too much emphasis on system and coach and not nearly enough on the fact that we have, at best a few mediocre players and several terrible ones taking up huge chucks of the minutes.

    54. IMO, that screams normally 10th options are being forced to be options 1-3 and players that aren’t very good when they’re not even guarded suddenly become worse when they are.

      That could be part of it for some players, but players that got plenty of minutes in the past are also down. IMO, coaching and system do matter. There are plenty of players that looked like offensive wiz kids under D’Antoni that couldn’t play a lick when they left him.

    55. “Its never been about stats with Lance Thomas”

      “That’s because Lance Thomas sucks, Mike”

    56. That could be part of it for some players, but players that got plenty of minutes in the past are also down. IMO, coaching and system do matter. There are plenty of players that looked like offensive wiz kids under D’Antoni that couldn’t play a lick when they left him.

      I agree, coaching and system matter. But I think in our case, our terrible roster overshadows and taints everything.

    57. “Its never been about stats with Lance Thomas”

      “That’s because Lance Thomas sucks, Mike”

      Clearly, you missed that one time he sorta didn’t.

    58. Also, Shved took a flying knee to the head/neck area so he’s out with . . . bruised ribs

    59. Also, Shved took a flying knee to the head/neck area so he’s out with . . . bruised ribs

      That saved me a few dollars. I was going to pay someone to hurt him to ensure the tank. :-)

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