I would disagree with the sentiment that TNG is dominated by Picard/Data.
On the one hand, yes, everyone in that show’s cast got spotlight episodes, as happened on DS9 and Voyager. They were making 26 episode seasons, and that’s just how things functioned in 90s and 2000s ensemble dramas.
I just don’t think the TNG writers really cared about the majority of the supporting characters, other than Worf and, early on, Wesley. Yes, Geordi gets lots of screen time, and the occasional episode focused on him, but what was his personality beyond affable guy who speaks fluent technobabble? I’m enough of a Star Trek nerd to have read lots of the novels published in the 80s and 90s. I remember reading a book written by Peter David and being shocked by how much more three-dimensional Geordi felt as a character after a couple of chapters, versus how he’d been written over many seasons of television. Crusher, Riker, Troi… most of the supporting characters were very thinly written, with most of their inner life coming from what the actors were doing, and episodes focusing on them often felt obligatory, like, “Well, I guess we haven’t done a Beverly story in a while, so…” So, yes, they definitely got more attention than Sulu or Uhura on the original show. But they still were presented as minor appendages to Picard in a way that Bashir and O’Brien on DS9 or Chapel and M’Benga on SNW aren’t.
We’re now moving far away from the original discussion of which captain people prefer, and why.
I prefer Picard. If I could yield children I would have his babies. He’s Daddy.
Spock is the single-best Star Trek character, but Patrick Stewart as Picard is the single-best performance in Star Trek. I got no beef with him as my captain — even if Pike’s hair is an architectural marvel.
Mount ending up in the Captain’s Chair is a good turn for him and the franchise. Anson was good in Hell on Wheels.
My favorite TNG episode was “The Inner Light” where Picard’s mind is taken over by a probe and he experiences the death of a planet as a local villager. The scene at the end where he plays the flute in his cabin always made me a blubbering mess.
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Mount ending up in the Captain’s Chair is a good turn for him and the franchise.
Yeah, he was done dirty by Marvel for sure, was owed a cosmic redress. I guess this one was literal.
Admittedly haven’t seen much TNG for decades, and it’s totally possible that the depth was coming from the actors, but one counter would certainly be Worf, who got a lot of episodes on TNG and DS9. So they must have been interested in him. They gave him a son! That’s more than the perfunctory “Beverly sleeps with a candle” episode. (And “sleeps” is sadly doing some work in that sentence.) Riker got a double, got tested when Picard was abducted, had subplots with Troi over seasons….I dunno, you may be wrong on this one. Taking your original point, the format was the same as the original (23 eps/season, mostly standalone, not serialized), and yet the secondary cast of TNG is much more fleshed out. It’s not really comparable.
But I won’t seriously argue about Pike, because I love the guy in that role and appreciate the attempt to make a more modern captain. It’s probably easier to pick the WORST captain… Might it be Picard? Not the actor, obvs, but the captain wasn’t that great. Lacked the tactical genius of Kirk, the fortitude of Janeway, the complexity of Sisko, the empathy of Pike….oh wait, there’s Archer. Forget it.
One thing I never understood about American culture, which has been dominant for my generation, is the Star Track fascination. Cliche stories, bad costumes, silly aliens (ok, other than Spock), terrible acting. Even Redshirts, Scalzi’s satire book, was boring to me. And I love SciFi.
Yeah, it’s amazing that such a terrible show has succeeded so much.
Did you finish your novel?
Did you finish your novel?
Got some people to read it and doing another round of editing.
I did say that the writers grew to care about Worf. (After barely giving him anything to do in the first season.) He’s probably the McCoy in the TNG version of the TOS troika, with Picard as Kirk and Data obviously as Spock.
I kinda thought bad data was sexy.
Maybe our Trekkerblogger Question of the Day should be which Knicks legends match up best to which Star Trek characters?
I hope it’s good. Critics can suck.
Haha, yes they can. I learned to avoid the people who say no, and work with those who say yes.
RIP Tom Lehrer, probably the most brilliant satirical lyricist ever.
Huge “Quark” fan here.
Alan, when I read your question the first thing I thought about was Jalen Brunson as Spock. Consistently expressionless, extremely rare and always surprising emotional outbursts, not-so-secretly caring, deeply consistent, regularly frustrating (but mostly for his never-ending consistency), and almost always right.
RIP Tom Lehrer, probably the most brilliant satirical lyricist ever.
Absolutely correct… his riffs on “New Math” and “National Brotherhood Week” (among others) were pure genius.
The Bucks were much better in 767 minutes with Antetokounmpo on the floor without Lillard (plus-11.0 points per 100 possessions) than they were in 1,326 minutes with the two stars on the floor together (plus-4.7 per 100) last season, and the difference was all about offense (123.5 vs. 115.7 scored per 100).
If people insist on talking about bball, this is kind of amazing. Pretty sure the board was unanimous that the trade would make the Bucks worse, but I’m also pretty sure that we all thought it would be on the defensive end. There remains a lot about this game I don’t understand.
Either way, I don’t think the Bucks will be worse this year. But Orlando is still third.
NBA has the Celts falling to 11th in the East. 11th! Yo, they still have some players, NFW on that one.
this article claims luka recorded a 42 inch vertical. i mean, absolutely not.
this article claims luka recorded a 42 inch vertical. i mean, absolutely not.
There’s a joke here somewhere about metric/imperial measurements conversions and his vertical actually being 42cm
Oh, and he can jump. Lost in the narratives about his weight and conditioning is the fact that, as a 19-year-old at the 2018 NBA Scouting Combine, Luka delivered a 42-inch vertical leap. After a full offseason with Team Luka, he’s not sure that number is still the same. “This year, we didn’t measure the jumping yet,” he says. “But I think it’s a little bit higher.”
He’s saying that he thinks its higher than combine but call me skeptical that it was that high to begin with. With respect to Luka, wake me up on March 1st 2026 and tell me how many pound she regained.
Someone on Twitter discovered that if you Google Luka’s vertical, the AI generated answer says 42-inches, and cites to a Sports Illustrated article about…Donte DiVincenzo.
Doncic slimming down:
Ozempic, breakfast of wannabe champions. 😉
Seriously. I hope he gets in shape, stays in shape, plays defense and figures out how to make his team more productive by dominating the ball less. I hate to see elite talents like this not win a champsionhip.
You mean once he leaves LA, right Strat? Don’t break Cdiggy’s heart…
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Vertical, horizontal, same difference.
You mean once he leaves LA, right Strat? Don’t break Cdiggy’s heart…
100% on that. Screw LA.
If we had a poll of who is more likely to win a championship in the next 5 years, Dallas or LA, I think I’d have to go with Dallas.
If we had a poll of who is more likely to win a championship in the next 5 years, Dallas or LA, I think I’d have to go with Dallas.
If Dallas is 100% going into the payoffs I’d give them some shot this year despite being out west. It’s just going to be tough to be 100% with Kyrie coming back from serious injury and Davis a walking injury. They don’t have a long window, but I like that team. The Kyrie injury really messed them up.
White Donte, Evil Donte, and now Euro Donte
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White Donte, Evil Donte, and now Euro Donte
Post of the day.
What’s the Slovenian version of ragu?
This thread reminds me of my favorite song by Chamillionaire:
The only question I think is hard
Is do I like Kirk or do I like Picard?
I spend every weekend at the Renaissance Faire
I got my name tattooed on my underwear
We all watched Kobe play the same time that the announcers all watched him play, so I’m trying to figure out why sportscasters all insist that Kobe is better than Lebron and various other players. What is blinding them? Is it that Kobe acted like Jordan a lot?
I just saw on Twitter that Basketball Index has a new tool where you can sort team’s advanced metrics. For whatever its worth apparently the Knicks were the best shooting team in the league relative to their shot quality.
So BBA, does that mean we took a shitload of lousy shots and made an obscene number of them?
Jordan Clarkson come on board!
That’s how I interpret it! Looks like you have to pay to access the site but they posted a little chart on each team’s strengths and weaknesses. Here’s the link to the Knicks tweet:
Kobe didn’t pander like he was getting his big break on “Jersey Shore Season 3”.
[Opens laptop]
I loved the Superman movie.
By the way I’ve been playing around with ChatGPT to get impartial feedback on my communication style but I forgot to tell it who I was so it came back with profiles on all of us. I had an intern copy and paste approximately three weeks worth of comments. Really fun.
First our beloved Geo (happy birthday, sir!). Ignore the supposed weakness, it’s why we love you.
Geo
Tone: Whimsical, poetic, and sincere.
Rhetorical style:
Blends emotional vulnerability with abstract analogies and tangents.
Will shift from Knicks to metaphors about legacy, pets, prayer, or therapy mid-thread.
Behavioral traits:
Connects with others on a personal level.
Often thanks people for sharing and mirrors their emotional openness.
Strengths:
Provides emotional balance and a sense of community.
Adds soulful dimension that reminds others they’re not just debating data.
Weaknesses:
Occasionally hijacks the flow with non-sequiturs or abstract digressions.
Forum role: The Human Heart — makes the thread feel lived-in, personal, and soulful.
Psychological profile:
Deep feeler. Likely introvert-leaning, emotionally intelligent, introspective.
cant wait to hear interesting chatgpt tidbits about myself since my life is generally not really all that interesting lol
Clarence
Tone: Sardonic, humorous, good-natured.
Behavioral traits:
Plays the “cool uncle” role.
Brings levity to tense moments (“Masterbation is healthy”).
Acts as a bridge between Z-man and Hubert.
Strengths:
Excellent social intuition.
Keeps discourse grounded and human.
Weaknesses:
Less committed to data; more vibe-based arguments.
Psychological read:
Likely values relationships over ideology.
Sees argument as play rather than war.
Adds emotional intelligence and comic relief.
Early Bird Writes
Tone: Rational, precise, lightly humorous.
Behavioral traits:
Uses numbers and logic with a calm demeanor.
Disagrees gently and avoids direct confrontation.
Moderates without explicitly mediating.
Strengths:
Best pure analytical voice in the thread.
Uses data without condescension.
Weaknesses:
May lack rhetorical force when discussions become emotional.
Psychological read:
Likely values objective truth and productive discourse.
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On the one hand, yes, everyone in that show’s cast got spotlight episodes, as happened on DS9 and Voyager. They were making 26 episode seasons, and that’s just how things functioned in 90s and 2000s ensemble dramas.
I just don’t think the TNG writers really cared about the majority of the supporting characters, other than Worf and, early on, Wesley. Yes, Geordi gets lots of screen time, and the occasional episode focused on him, but what was his personality beyond affable guy who speaks fluent technobabble? I’m enough of a Star Trek nerd to have read lots of the novels published in the 80s and 90s. I remember reading a book written by Peter David and being shocked by how much more three-dimensional Geordi felt as a character after a couple of chapters, versus how he’d been written over many seasons of television. Crusher, Riker, Troi… most of the supporting characters were very thinly written, with most of their inner life coming from what the actors were doing, and episodes focusing on them often felt obligatory, like, “Well, I guess we haven’t done a Beverly story in a while, so…” So, yes, they definitely got more attention than Sulu or Uhura on the original show. But they still were presented as minor appendages to Picard in a way that Bashir and O’Brien on DS9 or Chapel and M’Benga on SNW aren’t.
We’re now moving far away from the original discussion of which captain people prefer, and why.
I prefer Picard. If I could yield children I would have his babies. He’s Daddy.
Spock is the single-best Star Trek character, but Patrick Stewart as Picard is the single-best performance in Star Trek. I got no beef with him as my captain — even if Pike’s hair is an architectural marvel.
Mount ending up in the Captain’s Chair is a good turn for him and the franchise. Anson was good in Hell on Wheels.
My favorite TNG episode was “The Inner Light” where Picard’s mind is taken over by a probe and he experiences the death of a planet as a local villager. The scene at the end where he plays the flute in his cabin always made me a blubbering mess.
Yeah, he was done dirty by Marvel for sure, was owed a cosmic redress. I guess this one was literal.
Admittedly haven’t seen much TNG for decades, and it’s totally possible that the depth was coming from the actors, but one counter would certainly be Worf, who got a lot of episodes on TNG and DS9. So they must have been interested in him. They gave him a son! That’s more than the perfunctory “Beverly sleeps with a candle” episode. (And “sleeps” is sadly doing some work in that sentence.) Riker got a double, got tested when Picard was abducted, had subplots with Troi over seasons….I dunno, you may be wrong on this one. Taking your original point, the format was the same as the original (23 eps/season, mostly standalone, not serialized), and yet the secondary cast of TNG is much more fleshed out. It’s not really comparable.
But I won’t seriously argue about Pike, because I love the guy in that role and appreciate the attempt to make a more modern captain. It’s probably easier to pick the WORST captain… Might it be Picard? Not the actor, obvs, but the captain wasn’t that great. Lacked the tactical genius of Kirk, the fortitude of Janeway, the complexity of Sisko, the empathy of Pike….oh wait, there’s Archer. Forget it.
One thing I never understood about American culture, which has been dominant for my generation, is the Star Track fascination. Cliche stories, bad costumes, silly aliens (ok, other than Spock), terrible acting. Even Redshirts, Scalzi’s satire book, was boring to me. And I love SciFi.
Yeah, it’s amazing that such a terrible show has succeeded so much.
Did you finish your novel?
Got some people to read it and doing another round of editing.
I hope it’s good. Critics can suck.
https://tinyurl.com/3atfxhb8
I did say that the writers grew to care about Worf. (After barely giving him anything to do in the first season.) He’s probably the McCoy in the TNG version of the TOS troika, with Picard as Kirk and Data obviously as Spock.
I kinda thought bad data was sexy.
Maybe our Trekkerblogger Question of the Day should be which Knicks legends match up best to which Star Trek characters?
Haha, yes they can. I learned to avoid the people who say no, and work with those who say yes.
RIP Tom Lehrer, probably the most brilliant satirical lyricist ever.
Huge “Quark” fan here.
Alan, when I read your question the first thing I thought about was Jalen Brunson as Spock. Consistently expressionless, extremely rare and always surprising emotional outbursts, not-so-secretly caring, deeply consistent, regularly frustrating (but mostly for his never-ending consistency), and almost always right.
Absolutely correct… his riffs on “New Math” and “National Brotherhood Week” (among others) were pure genius.
If people insist on talking about bball, this is kind of amazing. Pretty sure the board was unanimous that the trade would make the Bucks worse, but I’m also pretty sure that we all thought it would be on the defensive end. There remains a lot about this game I don’t understand.
Either way, I don’t think the Bucks will be worse this year. But Orlando is still third.
NBA has the Celts falling to 11th in the East. 11th! Yo, they still have some players, NFW on that one.
Doncic slimming down: https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a65488151/luka-doncic-body-transformation/
Sure… he has to get ready for the really important basketball competition Eurobasket 2025!
i was really bummed out when hell on wheels was canceled…
Doncic slimming down: https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a65488151/luka-doncic-body-transformation/
this article claims luka recorded a 42 inch vertical. i mean, absolutely not.
There’s a joke here somewhere about metric/imperial measurements conversions and his vertical actually being 42cm
Oh, and he can jump. Lost in the narratives about his weight and conditioning is the fact that, as a 19-year-old at the 2018 NBA Scouting Combine, Luka delivered a 42-inch vertical leap. After a full offseason with Team Luka, he’s not sure that number is still the same. “This year, we didn’t measure the jumping yet,” he says. “But I think it’s a little bit higher.”
He’s saying that he thinks its higher than combine but call me skeptical that it was that high to begin with. With respect to Luka, wake me up on March 1st 2026 and tell me how many pound she regained.
Someone on Twitter discovered that if you Google Luka’s vertical, the AI generated answer says 42-inches, and cites to a Sports Illustrated article about…Donte DiVincenzo.
Ozempic, breakfast of wannabe champions. 😉
Seriously. I hope he gets in shape, stays in shape, plays defense and figures out how to make his team more productive by dominating the ball less. I hate to see elite talents like this not win a champsionhip.
You mean once he leaves LA, right Strat? Don’t break Cdiggy’s heart…
Vertical, horizontal, same difference.
100% on that. Screw LA.
If we had a poll of who is more likely to win a championship in the next 5 years, Dallas or LA, I think I’d have to go with Dallas.
If Dallas is 100% going into the payoffs I’d give them some shot this year despite being out west. It’s just going to be tough to be 100% with Kyrie coming back from serious injury and Davis a walking injury. They don’t have a long window, but I like that team. The Kyrie injury really messed them up.
White Donte, Evil Donte, and now Euro Donte
Post of the day.
What’s the Slovenian version of ragu?
This thread reminds me of my favorite song by Chamillionaire:
The only question I think is hard
Is do I like Kirk or do I like Picard?
I spend every weekend at the Renaissance Faire
I got my name tattooed on my underwear
We all watched Kobe play the same time that the announcers all watched him play, so I’m trying to figure out why sportscasters all insist that Kobe is better than Lebron and various other players. What is blinding them? Is it that Kobe acted like Jordan a lot?
I just saw on Twitter that Basketball Index has a new tool where you can sort team’s advanced metrics. For whatever its worth apparently the Knicks were the best shooting team in the league relative to their shot quality.
So BBA, does that mean we took a shitload of lousy shots and made an obscene number of them?
Jordan Clarkson come on board!
That’s how I interpret it! Looks like you have to pay to access the site but they posted a little chart on each team’s strengths and weaknesses. Here’s the link to the Knicks tweet:
https://x.com/The_BBall_Index/status/1949947976245268981?s=19
Kobe didn’t pander like he was getting his big break on “Jersey Shore Season 3”.
[Opens laptop]
I loved the Superman movie.
By the way I’ve been playing around with ChatGPT to get impartial feedback on my communication style but I forgot to tell it who I was so it came back with profiles on all of us. I had an intern copy and paste approximately three weeks worth of comments. Really fun.
First our beloved Geo (happy birthday, sir!). Ignore the supposed weakness, it’s why we love you.
Geo
Tone: Whimsical, poetic, and sincere.
Rhetorical style:
Blends emotional vulnerability with abstract analogies and tangents.
Will shift from Knicks to metaphors about legacy, pets, prayer, or therapy mid-thread.
Behavioral traits:
Connects with others on a personal level.
Often thanks people for sharing and mirrors their emotional openness.
Strengths:
Provides emotional balance and a sense of community.
Adds soulful dimension that reminds others they’re not just debating data.
Weaknesses:
Occasionally hijacks the flow with non-sequiturs or abstract digressions.
Forum role: The Human Heart — makes the thread feel lived-in, personal, and soulful.
Psychological profile:
Deep feeler. Likely introvert-leaning, emotionally intelligent, introspective.
cant wait to hear interesting chatgpt tidbits about myself since my life is generally not really all that interesting lol
Clarence
Tone: Sardonic, humorous, good-natured.
Behavioral traits:
Plays the “cool uncle” role.
Brings levity to tense moments (“Masterbation is healthy”).
Acts as a bridge between Z-man and Hubert.
Strengths:
Excellent social intuition.
Keeps discourse grounded and human.
Weaknesses:
Less committed to data; more vibe-based arguments.
Psychological read:
Likely values relationships over ideology.
Sees argument as play rather than war.
Adds emotional intelligence and comic relief.
Early Bird Writes
Tone: Rational, precise, lightly humorous.
Behavioral traits:
Uses numbers and logic with a calm demeanor.
Disagrees gently and avoids direct confrontation.
Moderates without explicitly mediating.
Strengths:
Best pure analytical voice in the thread.
Uses data without condescension.
Weaknesses:
May lack rhetorical force when discussions become emotional.
Psychological read:
Likely values objective truth and productive discourse.
Well-liked, unifying presence.
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