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  • Knicks, Nets tweak blockbuster Mikal Bridges trade with more players added – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:45:33 GMT
    1. Knicks, Nets tweak blockbuster Mikal Bridges trade with more players added
    2. NBA Rumors: Shake Milton Gets $9M Nets Contract, Part of Knicks’ Mikal Bridges Trade
    3. Knicks, Nets Expanding Bridges Trade To Include Milton, Diakite, Bates-Diop
    4. What’s next for Knicks after avoiding first-apron hard cap in Mikal Bridges trade?
    5. Mikal Bridges trade: Knicks add two players who will head to Nets in shrewd salary cap move, per reports


  • NBA Trades: Knicks look to shed salary in proposed swap with Pistons – Posting and Toasting
    [Posting and Toasting] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:00:00 GMT
    1. NBA Trades: Knicks look to shed salary in proposed swap with Pistons
    2. New York Knicks, Pistons Named Ideal Trade Partners
    3. Grade the trade: Pistons send 2 young players to Knicks in wild proposed deal
    4. Grade the Trade: Knicks acquire talented former lottery picks in mock proposal
    5. Knicks Trade Pitch Would Move Robinson, McBride & More for Former Lottery Picks


  • Draymond Green’s out-of-place Knicks lecture part of nonsense exploding across sports media – New York Post
    [New York Post] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 23:41:00 GMT

    Draymond Green’s out-of-place Knicks lecture part of nonsense exploding across sports media


  • Knicks interested in Walker Kessler – Hoops Hype
    [Hoops Hype] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 20:37:30 GMT
    1. Knicks interested in Walker Kessler
    2. As Knicks search for a center, Mitchell Robinson remains motivated to return healthy
    3. As NBA free-agent market dwindles, which center could the Knicks target? – The Athletic
    4. Report: Knicks exploring trades for Walker Kessler, Nick Richards
    5. Knicks looking for backup center, insider reveals possible ‘favorite’ among their options


  • Knicks Sign Tyler Kolek To Four-Year Contract – hoopsrumors.com
    [hoopsrumors.com] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 20:19:00 GMT
    1. Knicks Sign Tyler Kolek To Four-Year Contract
    2. Kevin Stacom: Why the Tough Knicks Are the Perfect Team for RI’s Kolek
    3. ESPN Draft Expert Lauds Tyler Kolek’s Knicks Future
    4. Knicks sign former Big East Player of the Year to four-year contract
    5. The Knicks might’ve struck gold with 2nd round ‘floor general’


  • Knicks Rumors: 1st-Round Draft Pick Pacome Dadiet to Sign Reduced Rookie Contract – Bleacher Report
    [Bleacher Report] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:43:22 GMT

    Knicks Rumors: 1st-Round Draft Pick Pacome Dadiet to Sign Reduced Rookie Contract


  • Mikal Bridges trade, PG signing incorrectly advertised as deals that move Knicks, Sixers closer to Celtics – Hardwood Houdini
    [Hardwood Houdini] – Thu, 04 Jul 2024 12:00:06 GMT

    Mikal Bridges trade, PG signing incorrectly advertised as deals that move Knicks, Sixers closer to Celtics

  • 154 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.07.05)”

    Early thread. Just gonna share my early thoughts after the news really quick.

    I think that if Thibs can sell guys on their roles and they play them, we are set once we bring Achiuwa back. A little small with slightly less quality depth, but we will have Achiuwa, Sims, and Hukporti to throw at the C spot behind Mitch. And we’ll have Achiuwa and Bates-Diop to throw at the 4 behind Hart, as well as Dadiet and McCullar(assuming he gets rostered) behind our established wings and Kolek in the mix at PG. I’m gonna stop short of saying “well played, Leon” when it comes to frontcourt depth because throwing 90% of the eggs into the Hartenstein basket kinda blew up in his face because of OKC. But at the same time, it’s not bad either. The moves are still good. We can roll with what we have and see which 5’s are available in-season for a trade.

    Also..I’m torn about Deuce. He’s only slightly better at creation than DiVincenzo, so do we move him in a deal for another C and free up more guard minutes for DiVo, Hart, & Kolek? Specifically DiVincenzo, as I can’t see Thibs putting a minutes crunch on him in favor of Deuce after the way he stepped up a little more than Deuce did

    Anyone wanna offer a scouting report on Keita Bates-Diop? All I’ve heard is that he just had a really bad year in Brooklyn, but has been a passable NBA big man previously to that shitshow.

    Poindexter, Kolek would have to show a lot in summer league, training camp, and practices for the FO to even consider trading Deuce to make room for the new kid to play. Deuce has his obvious flaws, but he has shown up in big spots on big stages, can shoot the lights out and defend like a lunatic. I agree that we still haven’t really fixed our backup PG problem, at least in terms of guys we expect to play healthy rotation minutes. But Thibs rightly loves Deuce.

    Anyone wanna offer a scouting report on Keita Bates-Diop? All I’ve heard is that he just had a really bad year in Brooklyn, but has been a passable NBA big man previously to that shitshow.

    more of a wing than a big. very rangy, great wingspan. good, switchable but definitely not elite defender. faux 3&d but not really a shooter. athleticism just so so. but better feel with the ball than the derrick jones jr types. a slow motion jarred vanderbilt with a more tenable shot.

    played most of last year with the suns, nets tenure was nominal.

    Unless Leon gets a Godfather offer, best to keep the powder dry and see how the team fares. I am assuming Precious gets resigned. Many questions need to be answered before anyone can confidently predict how the current iteration will fare.

    Alan, I did some quick research on KBD last night. First take: a garden variety defensive wing. Great wingspan, decent athleticism, seems heady enough. Can’t shoot at all other than near the rim. A legit NBA level switchable defender. Perfect replacement-level deep bench vet, can actually be played without killing the team if need be, way better than the G-Leagers we had last year. Should fit in well with team culture.

    Edit: what pt said

    This place used to have a generally pessimistic attitude because objective indicators pointed to the Knicks being a bad team without clear avenues to improve. The resident optimists would argue in the face of the evidence that things were fine, actually.

    Now the objective indicators say the Knicks are quite good, a “contender” by any definition that isn’t limited to “the odds on favorite to begin the season,” and no one in the rotation is on the wrong side of 30. The full-time pessimists are the ones staring down the empirics and trying to say they shouldn’t be trusted.

    It’s an interesting transformation, and definitely an endorsement of the job Leon and co. have done.

    And now that we’ve finally had the opportunity to see the Knicks through an entire “economic” cycle, we have a sublimely perfect port of fandom to the real world, seeing in the mixture of optimism, pessimism, overshoot, group and herd dynamics, and animal spirits exactly why economies and markets are defined by booms and busts, bulls and bears.

    So kudos to KB!!

    Thanks, guys. I’ll take an improvement over Charlie Brown Jr. and friends.

    We still have room for Achiuwa as the backup C and another player, right? I’d go Lowry or Cam Payne to fill the backup PG role.

    The team would look like this:
    Brunson + Mikal + OG + Randle + Mitch
    Lowry/Payne + Deuce + DDV + Hart + Achiuwa

    with Kolek, Dadiet, Bates-Diop and Sims as the 3rd stringers.

    Leon always likes to leave a roster spot open for trades, or someone on a non-guaranteed, which could be our favorite cheerleader (Archie).

    Rokas, McCullar Jr and Hukporti can get the 2-way spots.

    The team would look like this:
    Brunson + Mikal + OG + Randle + Mitch
    Lowry/Payne + Deuce + DDV + Hart + Achiuwa

    with Kolek, Dadiet, Bates-Diop and Sims as the 3rd stringers.

    Leon always likes to leave a roster spot open for trades, or someone on a non-guaranteed, which could be our favorite cheerleader (Archie).

    Rokas, McCullar Jr and Hukporti can get the 2-way spots.

    If healthy this is a very good team. As for the 3rd stringers, I can’t wait for summer league to start.

    I really want to see Kolek get a real chance of earning the Brunson backup job. From what I’ve seen of him, he seems like a smart, tough player who could fit in really well with this group. Let’s see what happens in summer league, but I’m excited to have some promising players at the back of the bench instead of Jeffries, Charlie Brown etc.

    KBD had one excellent season he shot 39% from deep on 142 attempts and around 30% every other season.

    He has a decent ft% so maybe there’s some latent shooting talent but yes really just a D player not 3&D

    Anyone wanna offer a scouting report on Keita Bates-Diop?

    The only reason I’ve heard of Bates-Diop is because Hubert used to write about him here. He wanted him to back up Randle last year, and lamented that he signed a make-good minimum deal with the Suns where he was all but guaranteed to get playing time on a thin, capped-out contender. Then, he didn’t get the playing time, and now…

    So the final deal is: the Knicks are sending Bojan, Diakite, Shake, unprotected picks in 2025, 2027, 2029 and 2031, plus a protected 2025 first via the Milwaukee Bucks, a 2028 unprotected pick swap, and a second round pick in 2025 for Bridges, Bates-Diop and a 2026 second round pick.

    As things sink in, I am now seeing the cost as less of an overpay than I did at first. There are really two phases to the cost:
    Phase 1: Now until end of season 2028-2029
    -Bridges is on one of the best value deals in the NBA for the next 2 years, that is worth some draft capital in and of itself.
    -We didn’t send out a single player of value, so at least some draft capital had to make up for that.
    -We were able to draft 4 players this year, all of whom seem to have been excellent value at their draft slots, who can be either developed or used as trade bait. We also picked up several surplus seconds. In the trade, we sent out a 2025 2nd and picked up a seemingly better 2026 2nd.
    -we sent out the remnants of the Grimes/Fournier trade, plus two mostly unplayable vets, and got a somewhat more playable end-of-bench vet in return in KBD.
    -The 2025 pick is likely to be bottom 10
    -The Bucks 2025 pick is likely outside the lottery but better than ours.
    -The 2027 pick is likely to be bottom 10
    -The 2028 pick swap is very likely to not be exercised
    This is a significant amount of draft capital, but it is likely that none will translate into lottery-level opportunities. The swap is hardly worth worrying about.
    We still have multiple seconds in this span, plus a sure pick in 2026 and 2028, plus young players on rookie-scale deals.

    Phase 2: Offseason 2029- Offseason 2031
    All of our current core players will be 32-35 years old in that span. It will probably be time to rebuild. Those picks could definitely wind up as lottery picks. We will theoretically have a pick on 2030, but it is also possible that we will have engaged in more trades by then to either dump salary or add pieces with the picks in 2033 and 2035, extending the window that Brunson, OG and Mikal might be championship-level core pieces with an as yet unknown superstar as the new alpha.

    So at the end of the day, I see it as more of a very expensive low-risk/high-reward gamble than a massive overpay. There was definitely a premium paid for
    -dealing with a hated rival in the same market and ending a long schneid on such deals
    -not including a single roster asset, e.g. Markkanen and Sexton in the Spida deal, SGA in the PG13 deal, Hali in the Sabonis deal, etc.
    -Bridges being signed to a great contract for 2 years, one that makes it possible to stay under the second apron for another year, and would have even if iHart decided to stay.
    -the perfection of the fit relative to what was available at this time and maybe going forward

    The real risk of looking at this as a mistake in retrospect is in the 2029 and 2031 unprotected picks. Clearly the team could have taken on DJM at a lower cost, but most objective observers know that the fit is just not nearly as good, either on the floor or in the locker room.

    I don’t think it is irrational to have preferred another path, or to more generally bristle at Leon’s prime directive of prioritizing culture building over cold-blooded asset management. But I’m pretty elated at the outcome of this rebuild at this stage. I don’t see this as a dead-end, what you see is what you get product in either the short or long term.

    Poindexter, Kolek would have to show a lot in summer league, training camp, and practices for the FO to even consider trading Deuce to make room for the new kid to play. Deuce has his obvious flaws, but he has shown up in big spots on big stages, can shoot the lights out and defend like a lunatic. I agree that we still haven’t really fixed our backup PG problem, at least in terms of guys we expect to play healthy rotation minutes. But Thibs rightly loves Deuce.

    Totally agree. My thinking, though- is with Mikal starting at the 2, it’s gonna be HARD to find quality minutes for DiVincenzo, Deuce, and maybe even Hart. That being said, if there’s a move for a C out there that has to involve Deuce, the FO probably has to make it given Kolek’s potential. The drop-off in 2nd unit lead guard might just end up being negligible goin from Deuce to DiVo. I’m sure there’s a vet min PG out there who we can use in case of emergency. Then again- as you alluded to, Kolek has to show up to make it work. I don’t think he’s better than Deuce, but outside a big trade involving Randle- Deuce is probably the best and most feasible trade chip. And he happens to play a spot where there’s a bit of a minutes crunch with he, DiVincenzo, Brunson, Bridges, and Hart all deserving quality minutes.

    It’s probably an unfair “scrappy white dude” to “scrappy white dude” comparison, but if Kolek is TJ McConnell with a 3 point shot, well then that could end up being another Leon late first round/ second round master stroke.

    Fingers crossed, looking forward to watching him in summer league

    Based on his contract alone, there’s clearly a level of belief in Kolek that makes me think he’ll get a chance at rotation minutes before too long. Sadly, as we well know injuries will probably spur it initially and we’ll evaluate from there.

    KBD was quite serviceable in 2022-2023, which is infinitely more than anyone can say about Charlie Washington Jeffries Jr. I hope we don’t have to play him, but as far as break-glass-in-case-of-emergency guys go you could do a lot worse than a guy who can adequately play both forward slots.

    A lot of what happens in the future will depend on whether any of the 4 draft picks (or Rokas) develop into rotation-level players. For now:
    -I am 99% out on Rokas
    -I hate to say it, but I don’t have much hope for Kolek helping us this year beyond what a garden-variety minimum guy like Ish Smith might provide. It’s more about positional difficulty than about Kolek’s potential in the longer term. But wouldn’t bet against him! He’s got moxie!!
    -Dadiet seems like a guy who has a crazy high ceiling but a non-NBA floor. The question is whether to cash in on his potential before he gets exposed as a fraud.
    -McCullar is pretty low on the depth chart for wings here. Can’t see him playing over even Bates-Diop.
    -Hukporti is the most intriguing in the short run. Backup C is the easiest position to break into, and he has lots going for him. I could easily see him being the most impactful of these players in 2024-25. Or never playing a single minute in the NBA.

    Can’t wait for summer league!

    “…but if Kolek is TJ McConnell with a 3 point shot…”

    I hope for that as well. The difference is, McConnell broke in with a team that went 10-72 in his rookie year, and then 28-54 in his second year. Kolek is not going to get that kind of grace. That’s why I see him as more of a 2-3 year project than a viable backup PG on a contender at this point, especially one coached by Thibs. But again, hope I’m wrong!

    Phase 2: Offseason 2029- Offseason 2031
    All of our current core players will be 32-35 years old in that span.

    I don’t even think the 29 pick is in any jeopardy other than multiple catastrophic injuries.

    Only Randle will be 35 and he is already “the most likely to be voted off the island” well before that. Everyone else is at least 2 years younger (Hart 20 months younger) and Mitch and Deuce are younger, yet.

    We aren’t going to be rolling out the 39 year old corpse of Chris Paul.

    Yeah, Bob, I was trying to not be overly rosy, but those are valid points. Yet even if we just falter enough to be in the play-in and lose, we would technically be a lottery team. And as we have seen over and over, even a non-lottery first can be highly valuable.

    I’m definitely rooting for Kolek, but he has an uphill battle.

    He actually had a very similar profile to Payton Pritchard, who certainly found a niche on a championship team.

    They are both 4-year guys who turned it on their last two years at college. Both are roughly 6’2” with slightly plus wingspans, and both can shoot the three and act as a floor general.

    The biggest difference is that Pritchard was and still is a very “fast” player while Kolek is considered to be a bit on the slow side. Both have very good “change of pace” skills, though, (a la Brunson), but Pritchard (like TJ) can turn the corner on NBA defenders with fairly good results.

    This is where I worry about Kolek. But he does have a few positives going for him:

    – he’s a pretty bulky, strong dude (Pritchard was only 162 lbs out of college while Kolek is pushing 200), which is a promising sign for a small guard on both sides of the floor.

    – based on his tape, he already has much better vision as a passer that Pritchard, which should make him better out of the pick and roll (also bc strength, see above).

    Kolek has to prove his shooting is real, though, and that he can at least not be a negative on defense, so he has a lot to work on.

    Pritchard actually saw a lot of minutes (roughly 1200) in his first year and was decent but really became a positive player in his second year, which is probably the most we could expect from Kolek if all goes well.

    I don’t know if DeRozen would come here to chase a ring, but he is still out there.

    If Kolek is TJ McConnell with a three point shot he might end up being the best player out of this years draft. Thats an incredibly useful player. Jeez. Hoping he’s something.

    I’m driving thirty minutes into the east village to get that Apollo bagel bagel. I just wanna know.

    My husband hates me for it. I proposed it as an invitation. How could he say no though? How to win friends and influence people.

    I am right around the corner from Apollo bagels and might just sit there and play Guess Who Is Clarence.

    Z-Man

    I agree with your analysis of the Bridges trade.

    It was a high price in draft capital, but when you look at his contract and consider we didn’t give up any real player value in terms of our effort to build a championship contender, the price is not as high as it looks and the real risk comes in the out years. We have a long window between now and then and there could still be trades along the way we can’t possibly envision now.

    I love what I’ve seen of Kolek on offense, but until I see him defend NBA players I’m reserving judgement.

    Meanwhile, the more film of Dadiet I watch, the more I am hopeful that he evolves into the best scoring forward in this draft. His 3pt shot seem far more translatable than Risacher, Salaun, Topic, or Holland. His ball skills are excellent. He can easily finish with both hands…it seems like he actually prefers to drive left. He’s got more of an NBA-ready body at 215 lbs. He’s got a scorer’s cocky edge, or as some say, moxie. He seems to be at least an adequate defender. He can pass a little bit.

    Pending what he shows in summer league, it seems too good to be true that he is NOT turning out to be a draft-and-stash guy. I want to see more and more of this kid, including some cameos in real NBA games. I think he can handle it.

    You just need Kolek to hold down the fort, make some plays, and not be a traffic cone on defense to get an upgrade from what we had at backup PG last year. He just needs to be passable for like 10-12 minutes a game to be a useful player for us. By the end of the year I bet he’s giving us good minutes.

    Dadiet’s build and scoring ability remind me of a young ‘Melo. I think he can develop into an excellent scorer. Hopefully, he’ll be blossoming by the time this core is starting to age out.

    I think Kolek has to be better than Deuce to see any rotation minutes. Barring a trade, I can’t see it happening for at least a year.

    I am right around the corner from Apollo bagels and might just sit there and play Guess Who Is Clarence.

    Big gay Jew wearing a blingy Knicks hat

    Quote from Lowes article today

    “The Clippers might be in purgatory again. The Nets are tanking. The Lakers are still king in L.A., and the New York Knicks have a chance to win it all. Yikes.”

    David was sick. He played a classics set and he was on for about 6 hours. Worked me the fuck over. Highlight was him looping and basically nutting over the whole dance floor with his remix of finally for like 20 mins. Had me spinning. Great crowd of old house heads that survived.

    Quote from Lowe’s piece that is 100% accurate, but someone will not like very much:

    Bridges’ game also fits more neatly than Murray’s into a classic contending roster. A lot of Murray’s value comes from having the ball, and every legit contender will have a lead ball handler better than Murray. His value as a secondary player is murkier. Murray is smaller than Bridges, not as versatile or stingy on defense. Murray has become a better 3-point shooter, but Bridges is still more accurate — with more experience in a spot-up role.

    E’s case that DJM may have been a better value proposition in a vacuum is legitimate, though overstated and terribly belabored. However, there’s no reason to think he’d fit any better with us than ATL. He’d be incredible to have as a backup PG, but it’s doubtful he’d accept that role, and as SG he’s not significantly better than our other options.

    He also has a little bit of Melo in him in that he needs to play a specific role, but guys that have that role are generally significantly better at it. I don’t think he’s a top 15 starting PG, and I’d honestly rather have Quickley, contracts notwithstanding.

    Our FO was wise to pass on him.

    Purgatory” is my term.

    Should have trademarked it dude…could have charged Mr lowe for using it…

    Trademark “purgatory”? Hasn’t the Catholic Church already done that?

    🙂

    I thought it was Dante’s word and we were just using it in a metaphor that’s become more tortured than anyone in the Inferno

    For those interested in a deeper dive on Dadiet, here’s two hours of video clips that include his clunkers and blunders. Strictly positive highlight reels can be very misleading. I’ve only gone through the first 20 minutes or so but haven’t seen anything to dampen my enthusiasm. Still think his floor is a slightly better Kevin Knox, but he seems like a lock to surpass that, and to be at least a fringe rotation player. The ceiling is tantalizing, though. Seems like his movements are fluid, his stroke is sound, quick, and with a reasonably high release point, he can extend and finish with either hand, has some polish and consistency in his pull-up and catch and shoot game, he can operate and create in the mid-range, has pretty good footwork, and has a decent motor.

    I haven’t seen anything yet to impress me on defense or on the boards. Nothing in his passing game stands out. There are definitely reasons for him to have not been taken earlier than 25, or before the other offensive wing projects. But as a strict upside project in the late first round, I’m very happy to have him in the fold.

    “I’m driving thirty minutes into the east village to get that Apollo bagel bagel. I just wanna know.”

    What the fuck does this mean? What’s a bagel bagel? You just wanna know *what*? You didn’t even ask a question; thus there is no answer for it.

    What a life you lead.

    I am right around the corner from Apollo bagels and might just sit there and play Guess Who Is Clarence.

    I’m in Fire Island today but live 2 blocks away 🙂

    The thing about Murray is that the whole reason that ATL gave up significant assets for him in the first place was for him to complement Trae in exactly the same way we are hoping that Mikal complements Brunson. Yet that experiment has clearly failed miserably. OTOH, Mikal was in pretty much the same role with Booker/CP3 (off-ball defensive swingman with situational creation ability) and thrived in it so much that they got to the finals, and would probably have been better off keeping him and not going all-in on Durant.

    So the evidence is there, this isn’t just a theoretical exercise.

    I never understood the case for DJM.

    I make a lot projections about how players will fit, but in most cases those are theoretical. You can’t really know until they play together and adjust. My most obvious mistake was Gobert and Towns. That worked better than I expected on both sides.

    But with DJM we got a chance to see him alongside a ball dominant PG like Trae and then by himself again when Trae was hurt. Theory was in fact reality. It would make no sense at all to put DJM next to Brunson.

    What the fuck does this mean? What’s a bagel bagel? You just wanna know *what*? You didn’t even ask a question; thus there is no answer for it.

    A bagel, from the establishment Apollo Bagels. Was obvious. If you genuinely are this bad at understanding colloquial English, I mean, I’m sorry, but you don’t have to take it out on the rest of us.

    Doogie I think you’re asking how I mean not what. I am only the passenger. Next year in the pines as they say in my mishpocha.

    I will say that Apollo bagel is a very competent bakery. An interesting addition to the conversation. It was absolutely an over pay in time and money. Definitionally, considering I waited in line for 10 minutes before even giving them my money. But, it was worth it. We were sated and I learned a bit about what a good bagel can be.

    “A bagel, from the establishment Apollo Bagels. Was obvious. If you genuinely are this bad at understanding colloquial English, I mean, I’m sorry, but you don’t have to take it out on the rest of us.”

    Then the correct way to write it would have been “an Apollo Bagels bagel,” not “Apollo bagel bagel.” That’s a humongous difference. So it wasn’t in any way colloquial; it was very much an error. Actually two errors.

    “Doogie I think you’re asking how I mean not what. I am only the passenger. Next year in the pines as they say in my mishpocha.”

    No, I really *did* mean to ask you *what you meant* when you randomly wrote “I just wanna know” without there being any clue about what you wanted to know. Which is exactly why I asked *what you meant*, not *how you meant*. If I wanted to know how you meant, I would have asked that instead. 🙂

    “I am only the passenger. Next year in the pines as they say in my mishpocha.”

    This is also random and also means nothing at all in any kind of context.

    Again, it’s “Apollo Bagels,” not “Apollo bagel.” Proper nouns are proper nouns for a reason. LOL

    ” I am only the passenger. Next year in the pines as they say in my mishpocha.”

    When he wrote that I thought it was an amalgam of “Next year in Jerusalem” and the Sopranos episode where Paulie and Christopher bollixed up the hit on the Russian in the Pine Barrens 🙂

    Enjoying a nice lunch at Rule Of Thirds. Thanks to whichever one of you recommended this place! I got the Japanese breakfast and it’s delicious

    Still not sure what we’re waiting for to re-sign Precious, if that’s indeed what we are planning on doing. Maybe it never *was* the plan.

    Trae’s a head case, Brunson’s an Einsteinian excellent teammate, Mikal can’t give you 12-18 minutes of outstanding backup point, and none of Lowe’s whims and fancies and speculations are worth three 1s and a pick swap.

    JK just make sure to get some Peter Pan donuts before you’re out.

    I’m *literally* an analytic philosopher with autism, yet I am not as much of a grammar stickler as Doogie. Perhaps I would be had I not grown up during the golden age of the internet. We all have our hang-ups I guess.

    Summer league is looking like a must-watch–I’m excited to see all of our rookies in action. The Yankees are currently unwatchable, so it can’t come soon enough.

    Speaking of bakery, has anyone tried portuguese custard tarts? Mmm, delicious!

    Dude. Those little shits are amazing. I stuffed my face with them in Sao Paolo last winter.

    With Bates-Diop being added to the roster there’s depth at all positions. I’m not saying “good” depth, just depth:
    PG: Brunson, Deuce, Kolek
    SG: Bridges, DVD
    SF: OG, Hart, Dadiet
    PF: Randle, Bates-Diop, McCullar
    C: Mitch, Sims, Hukporti

    I would love for the Knicks to resign Achiuwa. Anything more is gravy.

    Has anyone tried PopUp Bagels on 76th and Columbus? It’s largely a bagels only kind of place, you have to order at least 3, a $12 package gets you 3 and a tub of fresh cream cheese. They are small, fresh, and totally doused in whatever topping….sesame seeds fall off in piles when you eat them. not sure how they age, I’ve been there twice and ate all 3 before they cooled down. Def worth a try.

    Gonna have to drag the hubby there too. Heard from a couple people in that neck that those little shits are worthy.

    Also cool worlds on the big screen at the ifc next Fri sat. It’s a hot girl summer for me.

    Summer League could bring back the glory of the IQ-Deuce-Grimes-Obi-Sims lineup, I’m eager to watch this bunch of youngsters play.

    I would love for Doogie to be a Language Arts teacher at my middle school.

    Wasn’t Nate and Balkman stars of the greatest Knicks Summer League team ever?

    I was literally a Language Arts teacher at a middle school before becoming a lawyer, and I find Doogie’s shtick irksome.

    Enjoying a nice lunch at Rule Of Thirds. Thanks to whichever one of you recommended this place! I got the Japanese breakfast and it’s delicious

    Glad you enjoyed it. Love that place – even if I miss one of my favorite cafes which used to be in that same location on Norman. Check out Academy Records across the street if you are into vinyl.

    Still not sure what we’re waiting for to re-sign Precious, if that’s indeed what we are planning on doing. Maybe it never *was* the plan.

    I think there’s still a potential trade in the pipeline, but if that falls through we’ll sign Precious or maybe what we sign him for is contingent on what else we can do.

    So Franz Wagner makes more money, and potentially much more money, than OG Anunoby.

    I was literally a Language Arts teacher at a middle school before becoming a lawyer, and I find Doogie’s shtick irksome.

    Yeah, it’s weird. There are so many smart people on this blog, yet it’s almost as if they care very little about grammar and punctuation on an online social forum that exists purely for entertainment.

    Doogie, just because it makes me sad to watch your head explode, the “I just wanna know” was pretty obviously the first half of “if they’re as good as people say they are” or the equivalent. A perfectly appropriate intimation, although it could have been improved with one of our ex-poster’s favorite grammatical overuses, the ellipsis…

    You guys made me go to Proper Bagel in Nashville for lunch. 😂

    So Franz Wagner makes more money, and potentially much more money, than OG Anunoby.

    So. Many. Maxes.

    I actually started being more careful with my grammar and punctuations in my texts cause of a girl who was a language arts teacher and like Doogie she would get annoyed with poor sentences. But at least she was hot lol

    So Franz Wagner makes more money, and potentially much more money, than OG Anunoby.

    Only ’cause OG turned down multiple max offers though.

    Only ’cause OG turned down multiple max offers though.

    Do you never get tired of your schtick?

    The thing about you that is pretty annoying, as far as internet things can be annoying, is how utterly devoid of wit and humor you are. If your terrible opinions were at least less self-serious, I guess more people would have a couple more seconds of time for you.

    The thing about you that is pretty annoying, as far as internet things can be annoying, is how utterly devoid of wit and humor you are. If your terrible opinions were at least less self-serious, I guess more people would have a couple more seconds of time for you.

    I have to agree with this. E: less frown, more clown!

    I actually started being more careful with my grammar and punctuations in my texts cause of a girl who was a language arts teacher

    I don’t understand what you are trying to say here. Your texts caused a girl to teach language arts? If so, you should write it more clearly, without the past participle of the infinitive to be, i.e. I started being more careful with my texting because my poor grammar was the cause of a hot girl becoming a frumpy school marm.

    I thought it was pretty simple, a hot girl cared about punctuation and grammar so it was worth writing out coherent sentences instead of quick texts! Also she already was a language arts teacher hence her knowledge about proper grammar and punctuation.

    C’mon guys, I hope most of you understood where I was coming from.
    Using proper grammar and punctuation is worth it for a hot girl!

    If by girl you mean twinkle in your eye. Maybe Doogie needs to stop thinking about it and start thinking with it. Thats the ticket.

    Love a Portuguese egg tart. I was introduced to them when my family moved to Singapore, and they were something of an island-wide food craze at the time.

    Toss-up between the egg tart and Naples’ sfogilatella. Probably a familial resemblance.

    So Franz Wagner makes more money, and potentially much more money, than OG Anunoby.

    Maybe we should trade his bargain contract for 6 1st rounders. 😉

    I don’t understand what you are trying to say here. Your texts caused a girl to teach language arts? If so, you should write it more clearly, without the past participle of the infinitive to be, i.e. I started being more careful with my texting because my poor grammar was the cause of a hot girl becoming a frumpy school marm.

    My academic training is in biology, but I think “being” is used as a gerund here.

    My husband made me quit my career in food and beverage to just pretend to be a screenwriter. I know all about it.

    I just want to confirm that BBA gets that Donnie is parodying Doogie and actually does understand his story.

    I just want to confirm that BBA gets that Donnie is parodying Doogie and actually does understand his story.

    Likewise.

    We’re at a critical juncture here. On one side nothing and on the other madness. Gotta walk the line.

    I assume Donnie gets where I’m coming from and I definitely give him props for his Doogie impression.

    “Charlie Brown got dumped”.

    Leon pulled the basketball away as he was about to shoot.

    do not tell the hot girl but googling a gerund is
    a sign of severe anthimeria

    Is Steve Adams healthy? I wonder if the Rockets might be willing to moving him given that Sengun will start and play a lot at C for them.

    Is Adams worth the risk, considering he has to cover for Mitch’s injury issues?
    He’s been out since january 2023 and makes 12.6M.

    What’s the deal with Caleb Martin? Are the Sixers going to get him instead of DFS? I think DFS fits them perfectly, so I really don’t want them to get DFS.

    I love that the modern NBA has Paul George as basically a PF, when he would have been a shooting guard as recently as, like, five years ago.

    Is Steve Adams healthy?

    He might never be healthy again. If Mitch ends up being the more durable part of our center rotation we are fucked.

    Is Adams worth the risk, considering he has to cover for Mitch’s injury issues?
    He’s been out since january 2023 and makes 12.6M.

    It depends on his health for sure, but he does a lot of the things that the Knicks like: offensive rebounding, rim protection, screening (he was probably the best screener in the league, I’d say). He’s not a bad passer either, at least in his last couple of healthy seasons).

    Re: Adams

    He’d be a very good fit if healthy but it’s a big “if” and he would eat around 80% of our remaining cap space.
    Maybe there’s a chance*, I’ll let the FO cook, even if we all know they never have a plan… 😉

    * Or maybe Houston like him as a mentor for Sengun and make him unavailable

    To be clear, with Adams, I’d keep an eye during the season and look at him at the trade deadline more than right now.

    That’s a sound plan Marechal, it makes perfect sense.

    Meanwhile I’m waiting for the Achuwa shoe to drop…

    To be clear, with Adams, I’d keep an eye during the season and look at him at the trade deadline more than right now.

    When healthy he is a tower of strength, a rim protector/screener/ rebounder and totally unplayable during playoff situations because he adds very little to the offense and isn’t switchable and can’t play in space.

    Adams is a tough dude and toughness is a great substitute of talent.
    I’d prefer a more fluid C but wouldn’t mind adding more badassity with Adams.

    When healthy he is a tower of strength, a rim protector/screener/ rebounder and totally unplayable during playoff situations because he adds very little to the offense and isn’t switchable and can’t play in space.

    Minus the unplayable bit, this is the exact way Thibs uses the C position on offense & defense

    Tbh Kessler right now seems to me like the sexiest choice for the back up C but if the price is high Achiuwa would be fine too.

    I’ve also read talk about potentially trading for Nick Richards from Charlotte.

    Whoever it is I want 6 hard fouls on embiid a game. I like Adams for that. Dude wants calls we need someone to deliver them.

    Josh Hart would break himself into pieces battering Steve Adams in practice.

    The Kessler situation is so weird for me. If they have him playing summer league, it has to be because they want to showcase him around for a trade, right? But what do they even want, are they looking to compete, so they want veterans? Are they trading Markkanen and Kessler and tanking hard? Why would they be open to trade a 22 year old on a rookie contract who has been productive already at NBA level? Is Danny Ainge simply addicted to turning assets into more numerous assets and he’s hoping to rebuild the OKC way, by just stockpiling dudes until something works? I’m very confused.

    Josh Hart would break himself into pieces battering Steve Adams in practice.

    Thankfully Josh Hart is known for not giving any effort in practice, so his bones would be safe.

    Whoever it is I want 6 hard fouls on embiid a game. I like Adams for that. Dude wants calls we need someone to deliver them.

    That’s all great but the two centers we need to bother (note, I don’t say stop) are Embiid and KP and a slow Adams couldn’t play 20 feet from the basket when healthy… I can’t imagine him being useful at that size after sitting 18 months with a reconstructed knee.. He also can’t cause any difficulty on the offensive end, save the offensive glass. And you are depending on him to possibly play big minutes with MR as the other center. I’d need an extremely optimistic medical report to have marginal interest. At his best he isn’t switchable in space.

    If i had to guess I’d say that Ainge is addicted in torturing negotiators and winning bargains.

    Ronaldo just choked…hang in there cyber

    I’m sorry Cyber, football Penalties Roulette is the worst…

    All good here, thanks guys. Round of 8 is not a positive Euro for us, but hey, life goes on. Now i just want to hear Ronaldo say that this was his last tournament. It was a great journey but all good things come to an end and he must acknowledge this.

    Are they trading Markkanen and Kessler and tanking hard? Why would they be open to trade a 22 year old on a rookie contract who has been productive already at NBA level?

    Yes… the smart thing is the hard tank as the only likely way to secure a generational player is at the top of the draft. Few UFAs are going to salt lake.

    Kessler isn’t being showcased…. it proves little dominating raw rooks and undrafted FAs. He need to work on his game. He has regressed in virtually every advanced stat significantly from year one to two and maybe Ainge thinks he needs his cage rattled a bit. Ainge is going to make a decision on him before he loses more value.

    Maybe they just have him stand in the corner and practice 3s. Seems like less a slap in the face than benching him last year

    Utah seems to think Kessler isn’t a good fit with their roster but they also seem to want to tank so idk why they would care. It’s fucking Danny so they’re probably not doing anything.

    Clarence Beeks single handily saving the thread from Doog’s decidedly UNdowntown pedantry. Thank you for your service sir.

    Lil’ Pennysays:
    July 5, 2024 at 15:19
    So Franz Wagner makes more money, and potentially much more money, than OG Anunoby.
    Only ’cause OG turned down multiple max offers though.

    I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve been away from the blog for a bit but I actually got a chuckle out of E’s post. Never change ❤️

    Of the two centers we could have just drafted in 2022, I prefer Duren to Kessler. Kessler is better at rim protection but he strikes me as a stiff, whereas Duren seems much more athletic. He is still incredibly young (he’ll be 21 next year), and he has demonstrated some legit passing skills with 3.0 Ast/36.

    As you may recall we actually drafted Duren and traded him to Detroit to take Kemba Walker so we could sign Hartenstein. To get him back we could offer Deuce, Detroit’s pick, the two Washington seconds, and the Brooklyn 2nd. I’d like to hold on to Kolek and Dadiet, and I think Deuce has enough value now to carry a trade like that.

    I imagine a Kessler trade would have a similar cost.

    cyber is pepe going to the world cup at 43?

    LOL. No, he won’t. He wants to play another season, but my club didn’t want him to play, we wanted him to switch to the coaching staff. The most recent rumors are that he’ll play another season in Saudi Arabia.

    Hubs, that would be so in a vacuum but for Kessler we would have to pay the Ainge tax on top of FMV. You’ve sold me on Duren as our best option.

    I’d be thrilled to nab Isaiah Jackson alternatively, but IND dumping Jalen Smith probably means they need him.

    Has Detroit signalled they want to move Duren? I know they are not exactly well run but why would they want to do that?

    I’m pretty sure Duren is not available, and Detroit seems intent on adding veterans and trying to compete, they even gave Tobias Harris a contract. They’re not going to want just picks for their best center.

    If we get Duren i promise to attend the Duran Duran gig in Athens

    If we get Duren i promise to attend the Duran Duran gig in Athens

    “…her name is Rio and she dances on the sand…”

    I made a Simon Le Bron joke here a few weeks ago and it tanked — just fell silently off a cliff and died. Take it from a seasoned expert, this crowd just isn’t equipped for Duren Duren humor. Give it up, fellas.

    #I made a Simon Le Bron joke here a few weeks ago and it tanked #

    Missed that
    Duran Duran were my first ever favourite band at a very early age (5-10yrs old) before becoming a metalhead(The 80s!)
    Their Live Lp Arena was my first everVinyl! Still have it!

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