Born in Nigeria, Nnaji was selected in the 2023 NBA Draft after playing for FC Barcelona. Instead of heading to the NBA though, he remained overseas. Last season, the center was loaned to Girona in Spain, and after an agreement to leave, was then loaned to Merkezefendi in Turkey.

Nnaji played a combined 22 contests with the two teams in 2024-25. With them, he posted averages of 6.1 points, 4.0 rebounds, 0.2 assists, 0.5 steals, and 1.0 blocks in 16.3 minutes. Nnaji shot 70.3% from the field and 51.7% from the free-throw line.

great from the field horrible from the line no threes

I don’t know if that’s great from the field because when I looked at the highlight reel someone linked to yesterday, a lot of his shots were dunks.

Imagine a league where valuations are primarily driven by TV/media packages and where the two best teams mid season are in 3rd-tier markets.

To fix this conundrum, imagine if a team owned by a casino operator who has paid hefty fines in the past to avoid criminal prosecution made a historically lopsided trade, particularly as it relates to future competitiveness, to another sports franchise. And that other sport franchise turns around almost immediately and out of nowhere sells itself for a price £3billion above its estimated valuation (last valued in Dec 2024).

Everybody wins other than the casino operated team. Oh wait…

I get why people are saying the Thunder don’t seem like all that but two things:

1. It’s the Pacers. They’re really good and they matchup perfectly with the Thunder in a way few other teams can.

2. It’s really early for them. Like year 2. Most dynasties are still struggling to get over their nemesis in the 2nd or 3rd round at this point.

They’re going to be a lot better if they win. All these role players who disappear will have the confidence of champions. And Chet is really raw still.

Another random thing people are saying I think doesn’t make sense:

The Cavs are not playoff viable.

A 64 juggernaut getting taken out by the Pacers is clearly not the disqualifying event folks made it out to be. That team is still way ahead of us in the East pecking order.

Not really seeing that Mikal is even better than Obi at this point. There’s certainly nothing in the numbers to support it.

Kind of forgot how low the Thunder had sunk even a short time ago. The night Presti predictably took Leon to the cleaners, his team had just finished a season with 21 pythag wins, 28th in SRS.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6436187/2025/06/20/knicks-2025-nba-draft/?source=emp_shared_article

Edwards running through a bunch of potential draft picks if we stay at 50. As you might expect from that position, it’s a bunch of players with various kinds of flaws, but also strengths: a dead-eyed shooter with questionable defense, a jack of all trades/master of none, all-around talent with questionable athleticism, etc.

Meanwhile, Hollinger with the power forward free agency breakdown:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6433197/2025/06/20/nba-free-agency-2025-power-forward-market/

Guys who could be gettable for the exception or on a minimum:

Trey Lyles
Jabari Walker (with Precious listed in between Lyles and him)
Guerschon Yabusele
Chris Boucher
Trendon Watford
Nic Batum
Sandro Mamukelashvili
Bol Bol
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Jeff Green
Marvin Bagley

sdog brought up lyles around this time yesterday morning and here he is again i like yabusele or watford do not want 84 year old jeff green

To another point made last night, it was really surprising the way so many OkC players disappeared on offense. They really do need live ball turnovers to juice their scoring.

I wonder how good the OKC offense is when you take points off turnovers out of the equation.

OKC isn’t that skilled a team. I guess it can work when all the other teams sort for the same “3 & D” types.

No question there’s a Moneyball (*) opportunity for the first GM who’s independent enough to break away from the herd and stop sorting for and preferring those guys, and instead buying relatively cheaper all-around skill even if it’s not as “efficient.”

I personally from an aesthetic sense am kind of tiring of the Lu Dorts of the basketball world.

(*) In the purest sense of the term.

OKC isn’t that skilled a team. I guess it can work when all the other teams sort for the same “3 & D” types.

No question there’s a Moneyball (*) opportunity for the first GM who’s independent enough to break away from the herd and stop sorting for and preferring those guys, and instead buying relatively cheaper all-around skill even if it’s not as “efficient.”

(*) In the purest sense of the term.

Can I ask which poster this “Lil Penny” guy is before I call his comment calling a 68-win team with the 2nd-best net rating IN NBA HISTORY that’s in the Finals with a roster that gives 90% of its minutes to players under 27 “[not] that skilled a team a total fucking moron?

Seriously, this might be the dumbest comment I’ve seen in 15 years of skimming this site for dumb fucking takes. Is this Kendrick Perkins’ burner account? Is this a testing ground for a First Take producer’s idiotic takes about basketball?

The 2nd-best net rating IN LEAGUE HISTORY.

We all get dumber from comments like this. Delete your account.

I hate to break it to you but “Lil Penny” is ptmilo’s newest handle, Jowles

In my mind, the Haliburton shot from g1 missed and we just brought OKC to 7.

In my mind.

Lil’ Penny is the poster formerly known as “E”. You must have missed his hundreds of pro RJ Barrett posts.😂

Repeating: “I guess it can work when all the other teams sort for the same “3 & D” types.”

The regular season is an aggregation.

The 2nd-best net rating IN LEAGUE HISTORY.

Within a universe where players aren’t sorted for all-around basketball skill.

Shooting the basketball is a skill. Shooting the basketball from 23 feet 9 inches, as opposed to say, 21 feet is not a basketball skill.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, the guy whose range extends to 23-9 is more skilled all else equal to the guy whose range extends only to 21 feet, shooting range being a core basketball skill. But a guy who makes 36 percent from 23-9 isn’t more skilled a shooter than the guy who makes 53 percent (*) from 22 feet.

The math distorts the game and therefore the skill we see on display. The trifecta is not 50 percent more difficult, yet it counts for 50 percent more points. The less-skilled player who by happenstance counts two feet more range within his skill set will therefore have a place in the league, and will crowd out the more overall skilled player — even if in reality even his shooting skill itself isn’t even necessarily better.

This happenstance over-credited skill will also crowd out things like better defenders.

That’s the universe in which OKC has put together that net rating.

(*) Or even like 47 percent.

Another day, another thread strangled in the cradle by E

Don’t love any of the options in this draft at our slot. In fact, I think it runs out of useful players at around 40.

Unless the Knicks move up, I’d just take the youngest, rawest player on the board and bet on potential upside (because we are going to need players once this Brunson window is over).

That leaves mostly Euros like Markovic, Zikarsky, or Almansa.

Or the wonderfully named Dink Pate.

EDIT: Kaminari, you just elicited a loud guffaw over here. Well done.

Can’t believe Jalen was negative 40

I haven’t figured him out yet.

Watching the game it seems to me like he’s always hitting some key shot and is critical to the team, but seeing a -40 is only half shocking to me. His on/off for the year was -8, he was only +1.5 last year and was negative in his rookie year. He’s -3.3 for his career. I haven’t analyzed all the lineup data, but having a very strong bench has something to do with it. Then again, Shai was +11.1 for the season.

no dink pate please

I have seen quite a few suggestions on these innanets regarding a Bridges for John Collins deal. Um…no? On the surface it looks good- but are we really so desperate to make a move that we’d trade an Ironman for a guy who’s never played a full season? And then rely on said player to help cover for KAT on defense? Simply..nah

HI JOWLES!

E is the resident idiot savant…heavy on the idiot, light on the savant.

TJ McConnell is one of the most unique players I’ve ever watched. He plays at a speed that one rarely sees in the NBA, and his piss-ugly jumper masks a very high level of offensive skill. He has great court vision and anticipation on both ends and is a master of the basketball chess match.

I remember very well how he used to torch us when he was with Philly and I used to wonder, is this an outlier game or is he actually a very good player masquerading as a scrub?

I think we have an answer now.

The one guy who comes to mind as to his speed in the offensive halfcourt is another diminuitive two-initial guy…JJ Barea. TJ tilts more towards pesky defender and pass-first PG, and JJ was a really good scorer, but both had this knack for dominating the tempo if the game while on the floor.

Collins I guess gives you a stretchy 4 to play with Towns and shifts Obi down a step. Utah would probably want too much

Ever see the movie Twins? ptmilo is Arnold and E is Danny DeVito

I actually can abide the take that the 3PT math being far too rewarding forces teams to over index on a very particular skill, often at the expense of other, more holistic skills we traditionally associate with being good at basketball. It’s at least arguable that the aesthetic experience suffers when someone like Isaiah Joe is objectively more conducive to winning than, say, Brandon Ingram.

Of course, E is characteristically playing fast and loose with the is/ought distinction. He wants to say OKC would be better with RJ Barrett over e.g. Dort and walks right up to that line before retreating a bit to the “ought” side of things, because he probably knows that’s laughable.

There is oddly a lot of Thibs’ offense in OKC: conservative, efficient, uncreative, lots of talent seemingly underutilized. One could easily see Thunderblogger.net becoming frustrated with their halfcourt offense if they weren’t so good at generating turnovers.

But they are so good at it, so this low-risk approach is probably the right move even though it can look pretty ugly on a bad night. Players this young aren’t supposed to be very good in the NBA Finals.

It would not surprise if Carlisle steals this game 7. I would put together my own conservative game plan that limits turnovers, then count on those young guys tensing up like MFers.

To another point made last night, it was really surprising the way so many OkC players disappeared on offense. They really do need live ball turnovers to juice their scoring.

I wonder how good the OKC offense is when you take points off turnovers out of the equation.

I loved OKC coming into the season, but by mid season they were outperforming my projection on offense by quite a bit. When I tried to explain it, I noticed that they generated a LOT of TOs and were very efficient that way. It reminded me of the Knicks being OK on offense but all the extra OREBs turning us into a much better offense than shooting, playmaking etc.. . suggested.

I never tried to do the math required to figure out how critical their defense is to their offense. I’m not sure I could with available data. But before the start of the series I said the Pacers could win the series if they kept their TOs down. It’s critical enough to matter.

Maybe we need a 2.5 point shot. 😉

Textbook example: Mikal Bridges for his career, even after a very good year this year, is shooting .367 from between 16 feet and the trifecta line. That would be unplayable without the distorted math.

OG’s shooting .360. Here are OG’s career percentages from the other BB-ref ranges, beyond the rim:

3-10 feet: .338
10-16 feet: .358
16 feet-trifecta: .360.

There’s no real sense in which it can be said that OG Anunoby (*) shoots the basketball well. He is in fact an unskilled shooter of the basketball.

(*) I don’t mean to pick on him in particular; I’m sure there are a ton of similar examples.

E prefers “skilled” players like RJ Barrett, Dejounte Murray, and Cam Reddish. Guys like Lu Dort can’t hold a candle to the Dejountes and Cams of the world. You want to be good at basketball, you need players with moxie like RJ Barrett.

OKC had a good half court offense in the regular season, I don’t know where it’s gone

Yes, I prefer watching basketball with skilled players playing it.

Guilty as charged.

I’ll say it again. I think Kolek could learn a lot watching TJ McConnell.

The three-point shot is a gimmick put in place out of desperation to try to gin up interest in the professional game when several NBA games were played in front of smaller crowds than used to watch our games at Podunk High.

Even though no other sport counts successful efforts from longer distances as higher-scored events, it was perfectly fine as an occasional thing for many years after its adoption. But once the math of it got hacked and then the player pool sorted out to exploit that math, it grew out of control and far beyond its original intent. It’s time to rein it in.

To make it worse, OG’s and Mikal’s shooting numbers inside trifecta land are in an environment wherein those spaces on the floor are more open than before the trifecta revolution. Getting a good shot away from, say, 15 feet used to be far harder. (And again I don’t mean to single them out; there are certainly countless other examples.)

There’s no real sense in which it can be said that OG Anunoby (*) shoots the basketball well. He is in fact an unskilled shooter of the basketball.

I think the issue with OG is that he’s not highly skilled at shooting while moving but he’s skilled if he’s not. So the idea is to improve his ball handling, shooting off the dribble, finishing off the dribble etc.. If he can’t do that, then up his efficiency by telling him to do less of that and just accept being 4th option that’s getting paid a HUGE pile of money to be an elite defender that shoots open 3s and dunks on cuts and in transition.

Dejounte Murray has a career eFG+ and TS+ of 92 and was one of the worst players in the NBA this past season.

Skilled!

Ever see the movie Twins? ptmilo is Arnold and E is Danny DeVito

Post of the day so far!

I actually can abide the take that the 3PT math being far too rewarding forces teams to over index on a very particular skill, often at the expense of other, more holistic skills we traditionally associate with being good at basketball. It’s at least arguable that the aesthetic experience suffers when someone like Isaiah Joe is objectively more conducive to winning than, say, Brandon Ingram.

And with that, my work here is done. All the rest is noise.

Watching the game it seems to me like he’s always hitting some key shot and is critical to the team, but seeing a -40 is only half shocking to me. His on/off for the year was -8, he was only +1.5 last year and was negative in his rookie year. He’s -3.3 for his career. I haven’t analyzed all the lineup data, but having a very strong bench has something to do with it. Then again, Shai was +11.1 for the season.

OKC is +9.7 with Jalen on, so it’s not like they’re losing his minutes. They’re just an absurd +17.7 when he sits. I suspect he’s playing all of the non-SGA minutes, which dents his value.

His TS% was slightly below league average this year and his playoff TS% is down to .549, so he’s probably miscast as a #1 scorer when SGA is on the bench, at least for now.

Btw not only was E’s comment not dumb, it’s actually intelligent.

“Not that skilled” doesn’t mean “not that good.” This should be pretty obvious.

The Thunder are the embodiment of 3&D analytics. They’re like a baseball team where every player hits a lot of home runs, gets a lot of walks, and strikes out too often. Of course they’re great, those are the most valuable things you can do.

But when you face a sinker ball pitcher who throws bowling balls in the strike zone, suddenly your whole approach is nullified, and you need something else.

When teams stop committing turnovers against the Thunder, it has been consistently clear that they do not have that something else, which is the skill E was referring to. They all have a skill, but outside the top 3, it’s the same skill: 3&D.

And Chet’s been useless while Jalen’s been inconsistent, so that lack of variety in their skillsets has been on display.

No one on the Thunder’s 4-10 is an excellent secondary creator like Andrew Nembhardt, an unstoppable lightning bug like TJ McConnell, or instant offense like Obi Toppin.

They’re just all better at 3 and D.

Z–mansays:
June 20, 2025 at 10:29
HI JOWLES!

E is the resident idiot savant…heavy on the idiot, light on the savant.

And look who piped up to lick his hero’s asshole again in a transparent reach for approval at another person’s expense.

dred i am not sure why we care about shifting obi down a step since he has not been on our team for a couple of years now

I actually think OKC would have been better off keeping Josh Giddey. Caruso is great at what he does, but Giddey (3 BPM this season) would have given them an additional playmaker, and he’s still only 22. On paper it seems like the kind of trade that helped both teams, and maybe OKC takes game 7 and rattles off a few championships anyway. But Giddey, the Bulls version, does seem like a player they really could use right now.

The thunder have (for the series) turned Indy over at a normal rate for them. Whatever Indy is doing to OKCs offense it is not just not turning the ball over

giddey the bulls version also seems like a player we could use right now

“And look who piped up to lick his hero’s asshole again in a transparent reach for approval.”

Don’t worry hubie, as long as E’s in town you won’t be the dumbest poster here! Most disgusting maybe…

mean

OKC is one home game away from the first championship in their franchise’s history after a 68-14 season. Seems a bit odd to be quibbling about their mix of players.

I also don’t get the point of comparing Brandon Ingram to Isaiah Joe. They are two very different players in very different roles on very different contracts.

The Caruso vs. Giddey comparison is more interesting, but I would have to disagree with JK. Caruso is putting up a playoffs-leading 4.8 DBPM in the playoffs. He is also putting up a .604 TS% on a 15% usage. I don’t think Giddey would have had nearly the impact that Caruso has, and he’s due for an extension. I get that Giddey had a breakout year, but it was for a shitty team under no pressure.

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