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16 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.02.03)”
Well, well, well — now isn’t that interesting?
(Guess what? It wasn’t the first time.)
These few days have been pretty demoralizing. OG; watching the Lakers gifted Luka; losing at home without AD in the mix; watching the Spurs continue to build.
Hope to feel back on track soon. I like to tell myself that two of the picks in the Mikal trade will be gone after this year’s draft. Hopefully without us kicking ourselves too much.
I’m seeing some rumors that the Mavs felt Luka would end up like Embiid. So I get that you get what you can while you can. But still; too little and too early.
I’m seeing some rumors that the Mavs felt Luka would end up like Embiid.
If ending up like Embiid means your 26-28 year old seasons have you 2nd, 2nd, and 1st in MVP voting that’s not so bad.
I’m primarily aligned with you Bernie. I’m just, secondarily, entertaining the other perspective. Dallas made the Finals last year. But the year before that, they tanked to miss the play-in for the Lively pick. And they had that other run with JB because Luka was hurt. Philly and Dallas do seem to yo-yo between contention and the lotto a lot. Again, not saying the deal didn’t shock me or piss me off.
After eons I did listen Bill Simmons’ pod about the trade and they foresaw a smear campaign coming from Dallas to justify the unjustifiable.
I’m not even talking about the basketball side of the trade (questionable as it is), but the assets management side of the deal and the refuse to gauge the market smell of professional malpractice.
Dallas was a sacrifice to boost the leagues ratings.
The league has been falling off since the Curry vs LeBron battles with Cavs/Warriors.
Also with LeBron getting ready to retire soon they need to keep the Lakers relevant on the court. Bad Laker team is bad for business
Still no news about OG?
Speaking of injuries, KAT’s ligament strain is bad enough (Sabonis played with something similar recently) but I think the worst part is the bone chip roaming in his hand with the surgery postponed until the offseason.
Trade for Jimmy Butler? Become a dark horse contender for a few years? If you win 1 championship, no one ever questions you again? OKC pretty much had your number for the next 10 years anyway?
Lots of circumstantial evidence that guys don’t really want to play with Luka. (KP, JB, etc.) Reasonable guess that Jason Kidd, pitbull defender and phenomenal player in his own right, didn’t really care too much for Luka’s bullshit.(*) Luka’s facial expressions and ref-baiting on the floor have screamed “punk” since pretty much the day he came into the league.
I would expect more information along these lines to come out over the next few weeks. It will be deemed “self-serving,” and the like, but it won’t really be.
Assuming they actually play meaningful games together, will be interesting to see how LBJ reacts to Luka’s chucking and lazy defense. (Would have been even more interesting to see how prime LBJ would have reacted, but we’ll have to settle for the 40-year-old version at this point.)
(*) J-Kidd’s reaction to all of this is a pretty good tell. If he starts agitating over the next few weeks, it means he was against it. If he continues apace complimenting his team and co-workers, and the “new culture” and the “great defense,” he was for it. Either way, he’s the polar opposite of a shrinking violet and without question made his opinion heard loud and clear.
I’m beginning to settle on two things about the Luka trade:
1. It truly was an incredible calamity.
2. At its core is my oldest enemy: unfettered groupthink.
Everyone in that Mavs organization had a hate boner for Luka. The video circulating of Michael Finley derisively taking the celebratory beer away from Luka is a good example of this. As is the info they are leaking. (And frankly there is no bigger evidence than the trade itself!)
They formed a little circle jerk club and kept on validating each other’s stupid ideas: Luka’s not athletic enough, Luka’s out of shape, Luka doesn’t play defense, Luka drinks too much beer. And they saw confirmation of their biases everywhere.
And their stupid ideas didn’t just apply to Luka. They applied to Kyrie, as well. That organization seems to be collectively ignoring all his red flags and thinking it’s reasonable to expect the best version of Kyrie when everyone outside of the organization knows exactly how putting your eggs in the Kyrie basket will end (spoiler: not well!).
Within that faulty framework, all their moves make sense. Not shopping Luka around makes sense when you think AD and Luka are comparable bc you have a hate boner for Luka. So does not insisting on the Lakers ’31 pick when you’re blinded by your anti-Luka bias. And wanting to win now makes sense when you’re dumb enough to think Kyrie can be the best player on a championship team.
It was their assumptions that made no sense. They were driven by groupthink, probably with a healthy dose of anti-Euro Player bias.
I’m not a big fan of groupthink either, but within workplaces I generally defer to the idea that if no one can stand a co-worker, the group is usually right. And to a degree it doesn’t matter whether the group is “right” — if they don’t want to work with someone, that’s pretty much it.
The internet attracts people who are attracted to the idea that talents like Luka should just get their way because of their talent, and that the world tends to “misunderstand” that kind of talent and genius and suppress/mistreat it. (*) So you’re going to get a big internet bias in that direction. That’s a big part of what we’re seeing.
Forget Michael Finley. In the real world, they picked J-Kidd over Luka. Speaks volumes.
(*) You’ll find a lot of work from home devotees in that cohort as well. “Just let me work from home by myself, occasionally do a Zoom meeting, never really interact with anyone, and just display my talent/genius, which you must respect and defer to regardless of whether anyone on the workplace team can stand me” is the dominant credo there. Luka is a pitch perfect avatar for that.
I think Z-Man deserves kudos for continually challenging his assumptions here. I also think he’s making great points about why you hold on to those picks, i.e. it’s not because we could have gotten Luka, it’s because something unexpected always happens and flexibility is the key. You should never give up that flexibility for marginal gains (and Mikal, as much as we like him, is a marginal gain, at least compared to what is out there; we just saw Fox go for a comparable, if not lower, price).
One thing I’ve been thinking about: it can’t be a coincidence that Leon made his best trade (KAT) when he was largely out of first round picks. Do we really think that trade would have just been Randle, Donte, and the Detroit pick if Leon hadn’t made the Bridges trade? I am guessing he probably would have thrown in first round picks unnecessarily to close the deal.
You see this all the time with people who inherited wealth: they often give it away bc they don’t value how hard it was to accummulate (ironically, and to my perpetual dismay, this does not apply to Hal Steinbrenner). Leon inherited a trove of picks. He didn’t accumulate them. And he played loose with them from the get go until he ran out of them. Then he suddenly made his best deal ever when he didn’t have excess wealth burning a hole in his pocket.
There’s no evidence that Luka’s teammates can’t stand him. (And don’t suggest Brunson leaving counts because he would have stayed if Cuban hadn’t screwed up.)
I happen to think Derrick Lively and Daniel Gafford enjoyed catching lobs all the time, PJ Washington probably loved shooting open 3s, and the last thing Kyrie Iriving wants to do is carry the load of a franchise.
KP didn’t like playing with him.
Unproven, but plenty of reason to believe Cuban’s lowballing of JB was Luka-influenced. It was weird and un-Cuban-esque from the get-go. Never made a lick of sense. Might be starting to.
Two of the three sidekick stars he had, left him. The third was chosen over him. Speaks volumes.
In terms of the Euro thing, the best player in Dallas Mavericks history is a Euro. Pretty sure he’s still with the organization; if not, he’s still on extremely good terms with it. Just no reason to attribute any of the so-called hate boner to the Euro factor.
Hard to imagine a hate boner at only the organizational-management level being enough to trade a guy. Elite players win that battle 999 out of 1,000 times in the association. Reasonable therefore to assume it also included teammates and his history with teammates.
J-Kidd will be the barometer, IMO. We kind of already know he must have supported the trade because if he didn’t he would already have made it known. But to the degree it’s still unclear, his words and actions within the next few weeks will clarify it. Reasonable to believe he got pretty tired of Luka’s act.
Just saw the Michael Finley clip, hadn’t heard anything about it before. Doesn’t look at all like a disrespectful snatch of the beer; looks way more like a “We’re trying to help you kick the habit and we’re going to keep trying, remember?” reminder.
But whatever the motivation, it clearly shows the depth of them thinking about his act if they’re even uncomfortable with him drinking a beer in the WCF champions celebration locker room. Looked entirely genuine and adult to me on Finley’s part, at least in the clip I saw. Pretty clearly something going on there.
I agree with the point about KAT probably costing more if we had more to offer…otoh maybe it could have kept Donte out of the deal.
I don’t think (and never have thought) that Leon and his team are particularly good negotiators. That was clear in the Spida escapades, where he was bailed out by a better offer from Altman. He has done some really clever stuff, and lots of chalk moves too. The team is very good, very rootable, and very entertaining! But the little errors in execution are real and taken together they impede further significant improvement. But what’s done is done and this is where the real craft of GMing comes in. Teams like the Mavs and Heat have been in this spot before and figured out how to fill in the holes with little trade capital to work with. The hardest work will be between now and trade deadline 2026.
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