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  • Jalen Brunson Makes Bold Statement After Thunder-Knicks Game – Sports Illustrated
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  • Knicks fall behind by 30, get blown out by Thunder – Newsday
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  • Knicks’ Mikal Bridges on scoring zero points in loss to Thunder: ‘Just got to be better’ – Yahoo Sports
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  • Gilgeous-Alexander scores 39 as Thunder beat Knicks 126-101 – Imperial Valley Press
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  • Oklahoma City Thunder vs. New York Knicks: live game updates, stats, play-by-play – Yahoo Sports
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  • Knicks’ extremely concerning stat vs. top teams in the NBA – ClutchPoints
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  • Gilgeous-Alexander scores 39 as Thunder beat Knicks 126-101 – The Killeen Daily Herald
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  • Oklahoma City Thunder vs. New York Knicks – Final Score – January 10, 2025 – FOX Sports
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  • Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, OKC Thunder roll past Knicks in Madison Square Garden rout – Oklahoman.com
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  • Isaiah Joe hits eight threes for Thunder in route against Knicks – Hoops Hype
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  • 96 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.01.11)”

    Here are two images that I think are important to keep in mind.

    Here are the current Eastern Conference standings…

    And here are the NBA champions of the last 16 years or so (however many I could fit without the type getting too small. Adding more teams just adds to my point, so it’s not like I’m trying to hide anything here)….

    Notice something? In the past twenty-nine NBA Finals, the NBA championship was won by a team who was in the top three in their conference.

    The Knicks are currently in the top three in the Eastern Conference.

    Pathetic blowouts suck, because, well, you know, they’re pathetic, but they don’t mean shit in the long run, just winning enough to put yourself in a position to win in the playoffs is all that matters. The Knicks might not do that. Maybe they’ll fall apart this month. I doubt it, but maybe it could happen. But that has nothing to do with this pathetic blowout. You can’t miss the forest for the trees, and the Knicks are right in the thick of the Eastern Conference still, even with these recent pathetic losses.

    Also Toronto, Dallas, Milwaukee, Cleveland and Denver winning chips gives me hope. You don’t don’t have to be a juggernaut like you did in the 80’s, 90’s, and 00’s.

    That said, per Exhibit A, we’re 3 games back of Boston, 3 games ahead of the play-in so this could go a lot of different ways 🙂

    Last night, I found myself having Zion thoughts.

    Oh, totally, Dan, that’s why I said that things can go bad, but if they do, it won’t be because of a handful of games in January, ya know?

    True, it’s January, there are 43 games left to play, we’re 25-14, this team could easily win 50-52 (maybe even 55) games, and the regular season, once you’re in a top playoffs spot, isn’t so meaningful.
    But we’re in a downward spiral, with bad losses against the mediocre Bulls (yeah, we were on a B2B and yadda yadda) and ultra depleted Magic.
    We need to step up, ASAP.

    True, OKC is a very good team and losing with them shouldn’t be a disaster (just like it wasn’t last week, where the 2nd quarter was probably the best we have played this season), but there are losses and embarrassing losses and this one fall easily into the second category.
    We need to step up ASAP.

    I agree with Monica McNutt’s postgame comment, they took an haymaker (12-0 OKC run to end the 1st quarter, from 19-17 to 31-17), went down and put themselves in a fetal position.
    Something fe wrong.

    They were flat from the start and not for the first time this season.
    We’re not used to a Knicks team that waves the white flag without a fight or even a fake comeback, they were subdued effortlessly.
    I’m sorry for our warrior Josh Hart, but this group has no soul or identity and maybe they’re starting to tune out Thibs.

    For instance, while Brunson beefed up his numbers from the line, his start of the game was “paynesque” (and an harbinger of things to come), he basically didn’t pass the ball on the first three possessions, missing all three shots, and that was BEFORE we learned that OG and Mikal were empty as a deflated baloon…

    Thibs have been dwarfed in a short span by Mosley and Daignault and the absolute lack of adjuments after last week’s game was stunning.
    The game started and we didn’t know what to do, except pumping the ball to exaustion, with no movement, no involvment of KAT in the low post, nothing.

    Thibs is doing his worst job since the infamous “lost season” where he was unable to reign in Julius Randle’s behaviour all season long and stuffed his doghouse with other players instead.

    Leon has his responsabilities too, his indifference toward the draft and consequent inability to bring young fresh legs to the roster is a black spot in his resumee (not that it matter, Thibs wouldn’t have used them).

    The players aren’t innocent too, they are tired, exausted, squeezed to the bone by a madman, but they look as mentally empty than they look tired.
    They’re unable to react and they lie waiting to be steamrolled every time the other teams makes a run.

    I still think this starting lineup is one of the best in the League, the season’s isn’t over, better days should be ahead, but we’re on the brink, three years ago the month before the ASG destroyed us, let’s hope this year is different.

    Oh, totally, Dan, that’s why I said that things can go bad, but if they do, it won’t be because of a handful of games in January, ya know?

    I agree with you. I don’t think you can argue with certainty that we’ve witnessed something rotten. I didn’t watch the breakdown in the Orlando game but I think that would be my biggest concern. Two losses to OKC and to a not-terrible Chicago on a back-to-back don’t worry me much.

    I think OKC, BOS, and CLE may have the 3 best teams of the 2020s, save last year’s Boston team. Perhaps we’d be favorites in the 5 years before that, but not this year.

    At least it’ll be fun to watch those 3 in the playoffs.

    Notice something? In the past twenty-nine NBA Finals, the NBA championship was won by a team who was in the top three in their conference.

    our non garbage time defensive rating against teams outside of the bottom 10 in offense is 118.5. league average is 115.6, so we are bottom five. as rare as it is for a team to really contend without both an offense and defense that are at least above average, it’s unprecedented for a team with that kind of performance on either end against non-terrible opponents — even the notorious 21st ranked lakers defense. i think like it or not our puncher’s chance relies heavily on our lovable but slightly resentful monster truck connoisseur to come back balling.

    I passed out at the end of the first quarter certain of the eventual outcome.

    I too want to see Mitch out there

    The Thunder were able to hold KAT to two 3PAs over two games (and they were both in garbage time last night). Not a lot teams gonna do that but the ones that can will usually kick our ass.

    Brunson only had two 3PAs last night, as well. They pretty effectively smothered our bread and butter and Thibs doesn’t have anything else on the menu.

    Let’s see how we do against the Bucks tomorrow. That’s a far more significant bellwether.

    I think the idea was that if the other teams’ overplayed the KAT/JB two-man sets, Anunoby and Bridges would then stand wide-open at the trifecta line and knock down a lot of trifectas and then the teams would no longer overplay the KAT/JB two-man sets.

    None of that has happened. Is it personnel? Is it the coach?

    Daydreaming the best for this roster also had OG and Mikal contributing greatly to routinely shutting down the perimeter and in the wildest flights of fancy shutting down combos like Tatum/Brown in big playoff games.

    None of that has come close to happening.(*) Is that personnel? Is that the coach?

    It looks like, barring injury or sickness or hangover, Milwaukee will at least come in here fully healthy with their complete roster. While it certainly won’t be a “measuring stick” game, or even a “statement” game, the Knicks beating them by 20 or somesuch would at least be a quality win that could be pointed to and would likely reverse this recent slump.

    (*) Over the last week, we’ve seen two top-level perimeter and overall defenses come into MSG — Orlando and OKC. The most superficial of eye tests will let the eye tester see the massive difference between how those teams look playing perimeter defense … and how the Knicks look. Night and day. The Knick defense is, frankly, poor.

    OKC shot 24-32 against Brunson & KAT for 59 of their 126 points.

    They weren’t the only problems—they shot 7-10 against Deuce and 7-13 against Bridges—but boy did OKC know where to eat their lunch.

    They didn’t exploit KAT & Brunson quite so much last time, of course their percentage against Towns wasn’t quite as good either.

    Instead of watching a demoralizing Knicks loss I wisely watched a terrible texas football loss

    Since Christmas, we have made the fewest number of 3PT shots in the NBA and are shooting 27.8% from 3.

    I guess you could spin this in a reassuring way–that’s simply not going to last. I agree to an extent, but, eye-test alert, when I watch the games I come away with a few impressions about this that make it feel like more than pure luck:

    1) our 3PA quality has dropped off
    2) our guys’ misses look like more of the “I’m out of sorts, fatigued, etc.” variety as opposed to “you make some you miss some”

    1 doesn’t entirely check out empirically. Since Christmas we’ve generated 131 wide open 3PA (17th in the league) and 117 open 3PA (12th). Those aren’t great numbers, but also don’t spell disaster. The problem is we are hitting them at mind-bogglingly low rates–29.8% and 27.4% respectively (dead last for open, 29th for wide-open).

    So that leaves us with 2, the idea that for some reason or another, our shooters are missing shots they should make at a ridiculously high rate.

    Maybe it really is just luck, I don’t know. But it’s brutal to watch right now.

    It’s hard to know how much of our 3p% and opponent 3p% is noise vs. good/bad defense over the last 5 games or so, but if I wasn’t already clear :), I think this is a very tired team with some injuries.

    IMO that explains some of both sides of it.

    You can visually see low effort levels on defense and shooters often talk about tired legs leading to lower shooting percentages.

    Throw on top of that we have issues with Towns/Brunson on defense even when we are playing at 100%.

    I don’t bet many basketball games anymore. I was going to make a very big bet on OKC last night, but the line was not attractive enough with us a 4 point underdog at HOME when i checked. That tells you what both I and other gamblers think.

    IMO that’s why we find ourselves in this mess.

    If Mitch comes back and can get himself into shape and stay healthy, I think that will mitigate some of the problems on defense and reduce some of the need to play Towns so many minutes.

    Longer term (most likely in the off season) I still think we need a taller PF that can help defend inside to put next to Towns.

    I should add one more thing.

    I think Brunson is playing poorly. That’s not just because he’s not hitting 3s or is tired or has some leg injuries he’s playing through etc.. He’s in “I have to do everything mode” way too often. Sometimes you just have to accept that a defender is doing a great job or the other team has a strategy that is making it very difficult on you. When that happens you have to move the ball and not dribble around trying to create something tough against elite defense. It was one thing in the playoffs last year, but this is a new year with better players. If they are missing because they are tired too, so be it. But play the right way!

    Good thing we’ll always have January 2024, because January 2025 isn’t that great.

    Still Trey Lyles, and he’s got the Kentucky pedigree that we should love. Then again, so did SGA.

    Instead of watching a demoralizing Knicks loss I wisely watched a terrible texas football loss

    I watch Collateral after my Fubo free trial expired at HT.

    Good call by you guys.

    OKC shot 24-32 against Brunson & KAT for 59 of their 126 points.

    They weren’t the only problems—they shot 7-10 against Deuce and 7-13 against Bridges—but boy did OKC know where to eat their lunch.

    I’m honestly surprised they had that many shots against someone.

    Where do you get these stats, btw? I was trying to find them earlier.

    I am surprised how good their defense is without any phenotype standouts. IHart obviously but they were able to suffocate us with a bunch of mid dudes no one has heard of. No problems rebounding with a small lineup either.

    Joe going 8-11 from three also felt six sigma to me. He was shooting from 38 feet on a few of those and barely touching the cord.

    “unironically”

    Rarely am I accused of that, Hubie. It was a nice take-down, but you’re still wrong, if patronizing while being so.

    Noble did a nice summary of my thinking behind my post last night just up above, so I won’t belabor his points. But I will note that on Monday we shot 18% from three. I don’t think any Thunder played in that game. And on Wednesday Mikal and Jalen went 3-15 from deep, which wasn’t only a fluke (see ‘variance’) but part of a pattern.

    The Thunder get lots of credit for a stifling defense. But something else is clearly going on.

    NBA.com’s box scores. You have to switch it to “Defense” in the drop-down menu where it says “Traditional”. They also have matchups if you want to see how they did against specific guys.

    It takes them a while to put up the defensive stats.

    Take them with a grain of salt. Watching the clips that are attached to them (except today apparently), they don’t always get it right. Plus players can get blame for plays that may not be their fault.

    The other problem with having no bench and the starters playing so many minutes is that it also messes with the team emotionally when they get behind.

    If a team has a strong bench and the starters get behind early, the bench players are thinking “I can’t wait to get in and turn this game around” and the starters know they have a legit second chance later in the game when they do come back in.

    As it is now if the starters get behind they’re already thinking no way we can win this game and the bench players are probably just pissed bc they’re not going to get a legit opportunity to turn the game around.

    So it’s not just about being physically exhausted and injuries. It’s also about the psychological affect this has on the team.

    This team right now is the definition of a fair weather team. When it’s going well they look unstoppable but they have no ability to change things up or change momentum and fight back when they’re down.

    The frustrating part about KATs defense is that when I complain about him not putting his hands up, it’s usually after he did a pretty good job moving his feet.

    Every game, if you look at the boxscore, you’ll see that the opponents give roughly twice as many minutes to their bench than the Knicks. It’s remarkably consistent. Even bad teams manage to find minutes for 9th and 10th guys, and sometimes beat us. We have had some of the best injury luck in the league, so you can’t chalk it up to that.

    I don’t want to attribute the team’s shoddy recent play solely to the minutes factor, but you combine the top heavy nature of the roster with a coach who has a very limited circle of trust, and bad things are going to happen. We’ve been getting iron man type performances in terms of minutes from players who have historically been injury prone, and that just seems like a ticking time bomb to me. None of this seems to be heading in a good direction: the team is looking more tired and dispirited, with some of the key players seeing some severe efficiency dropoffs.

    This is a pretty good team but we’re kidding ourselves if we’re thinking “puncher’s chance.”

    “IHart obviously but they were able to suffocate us with a bunch of mid dudes no one has heard of.”

    There is literally no one on the OKC roster that I hadn’t already heard of previous to this game being played.

    That said, we can’t let Isaiah Joe (who averages less than 9 points per game) get 31 on us. First it was Andrew Wiggins, then Coby White, and then this guy. The pattern is so easy to see. Once we see one of those guys hit two or three 3-pointers in a span of 90 seconds or so, we don’t do anything to close out on them better. It’s very obvious that we say to ourselves “well, they can’t just keep hitting like that!,” but then they do keep hitting like that because we do nothing to change our defensive strategy on them.

    Since Christmas, we have made the fewest number of 3PT shots in the NBA and are shooting 27.8% from 3.

    Prior to Christmas we were 26th in number of 3PT shots but converted them at 39.6%.

    It’s clear we don’t take enough threes.

    It’s also likely that the 39.6% was a fluke and this is the regression.

    Josh Hart was at 40% prior to Xmas, for instance. Since then he’s at 30%. Nothing unusual there.

    Brunson was shooting 42% on hard shots, which is kinda insane. He’s 20% since.

    Payne was at 41.5%, he regressed to 33.3%.

    KAT, fwiw, has gone UP from 44.7% to 46.7%! That we are failing to get him more 3PAs is my biggest problem with Thibs.

    OG and Bridges are the two guys whose shooting has gone down more than you might expect but both of them have had to take much harder shots than the corner 3’s they’re mostly comfortable with.

    Three of tonight’s seven NBA games are postponed tonight: two because of the fires in L.A., and one because of an icestorm in Atlanta. It’s upon us.

    The other one (Jaylin Williams) could even help. He’s only 22, so still young enough to improve.

    That said, we can’t let Isaiah Joe (who averages less than 9 points per game) get 31 on us. First it was Andrew Wiggins, then Coby White, and then this guy. The pattern is so easy to see. Once we see one of those guys hit two or three 3-pointers in a span of 90 seconds or so, we don’t do anything to close out on them better. It’s very obvious that we say to ourselves “well, they can’t just keep hitting like that!,” but then they do keep hitting like that because we do nothing to change our defensive strategy on them.

    This is hoops malpractice. Isaiah Joe is a known commodity. In his 4 seasons in the league he has hoisted 1100 3s (10.5 att/36) and hit them at 39.2%.

    Now it was a little surprising to see him run hotter than the Sun, but it wasn’t surprising to see him wreck the game with copious uncontested looks.

    It is malpractice not to adjust.

    Thanks, EB.

    Take them with a grain of salt. Watching the clips that are attached to them (except today apparently), they don’t always get it right. Plus players can get blame for plays that may not be their fault.

    Yeah I noticed that the shots defended add up almost perfectly to the shots attempted so it seems like someone is assigning a defender to open shots, as well, which makes it somewhat unreliable. But it’s cool.

    And by the way, my bad. It was Aaron Wiggins, not Andrew Wiggins (no relation). See? I call myself out, too.

    one because of an icestorm in Atlanta

    To be fair, an ice storm in the south is just two inches of snow that nobody plowed because “god put it there, god will take it away.”

    Apparently the clips are working in the play-by-play but not the boxscore. I watched OKCs first 4 makes and 3 of them were against KAT and he never got his arm above his shoulder:

    (1) Jalen Williams 12′ floating jump shot —
    KAT reaches straight forward towards him.aybe it’d block his line of sight if Jalen didn’t jump, but he does jump and his arm is closer to Jalen’s balls than the ball.

    (2) SGA 13′ jumper drifting to his left
    —

    KAT half lifts his right arm as if he’s about to recite the pledge of allegiance, but with SGA jumping left and KATs momentum carrying him, his right arm ends up closer to SGA. He looks like he has a spark of an idea and begins lifting his arm up before giving up and dropping it back to his side.

    (3) SGA 15′ pull-up jumper driving from the elbow
    —

    Perhaps my favorite. OG gets caught on a screen. KAT starts staring down SGA from drop. SGA gathers, KAT stares. SGA has both hands on the ball, KAT stares. OG finally gets around pick out beyond 3pt line. KAT stares. SGA is off his feet and OG starts sprinting in putting his hand up from 8+ feet away. KAT stares. The ball is out of SGAs hands. OG flies in, his hand next to SGAs face but a half-step too late. KAT continues to stare. The ball goes through the hoop.

    It’s a little unfair to KAT because he needs to avoid foul trouble and get in position for the rebound, but c’mon, your feet don’t move slower if you raise your hand above your head.

    To be fair, an ice storm in the south is just two inches of snow that nobody plowed because “god put it there, god will take it away.”

    plowing with two inches isn’t as effective as you’d like it to be hubie. love, atlanta.

    Rarely am I accused of that, Hubie. It was a nice take-down, but you’re still wrong, if patronizing while being so.

    I wasn’t trying to take you down or be patronizing. You’re one of many people still promoting a baseless idea, i.e. that that 2P% = defense but 3P% = luck.

    There’s no statistical basis for it anymore. It’s not like 10 years when teams had 1 or 2 guys who could shoot threes. Everyone can shoot now and defenses are actively trying to take the 3 away.

    If a team held it’s opponent to 50% shooting at the rim, you’d say they protected the rim. But when a team holds its opponent to 16% from 3, you don’t say the same thing. Why? It doesn’t make sense anymore.

    Look who took our shots last night from 3. Not Brunson. Not KAT. It was OG and Bridges. And they weren’t open corner 3s. That is defense.

    Deuce’s 0-4 is about the only part of last night that seemed fluky bc he’s coming off injury.

    I’m honestly surprised they had that many shots against someone.

    I should mention that they’re double counting some attempts and points. I forgot that. Still it ends up being 59 out of 133 points that they were involved in. Seems not great.

    Hubie, you make a decent point, but for that to be THE reason, then the entire NBA has discovered how to screw up the Knicks and are now applying it. Which, I mean, maybe, but it could also be that a number of players are mired in a deep slump.

    What I see (eye test!) is Jalen passing up numerous threes, most likely because he knows he can’t hit the broad side of a barn; Mikal clanging shot after shot from all over the court; and OG hesitating before doing the same. Shamet missing constantly, and Payne frustratingly dialing up bad three after bad three.

    KAT’s been fine, and various people (you?) have noted the team is failing to get him shots there, and I agree. We’re definitely in agreement about Deuce, who is a rhythm shooter and will never make his threes right after time off.

    You may be right that the Thunder schemed to take away the Knicks’ corner threes, as I saw few of those. But even so, as a team maybe you hit 25-30% from elsewhere. Not 12.9%. And not against multiple opponents.

    plowing with two inches isn’t as effective as you’d like it to be hubie.

    That’s what she said.

    Mikal and OG are 37% three point shooters for their career.

    OG is having his worst season since his sophomore year.

    Mikal is having his worst season since his rookie year… but also his worst season if you include his rookie year.

    Something is broken.

    then the entire NBA has discovered how to screw up the Knicks and are now applying it

    Not suggesting that

    You may be right that the Thunder schemed to take away the Knicks’ corner threes

    Or even that (we had a few).

    What I’m suggesting is that after taking our best shot in the first half of the first game against us, the Thunder sized us up at HT and effectively nuked the Brunson/KAT pick and roll for the next 6 quarters. Without the signature action that makes our offense hum, we responded like a chicken with its head cut off. That’s what the 16% tells me. With some luck, maybe it could have been 22% or something. But luck didn’t keep us from league average.

    To be fair, an ice storm in the south is just two inches of snow that nobody plowed because “god put it there, god will take it away.”

    When I lived in Atlanta (80s/early 90s), the rumor was there were only two snow plows in the entire state, one in Atlanta and one in Athens, I think. Hopefully they’ve invested in a few more since then.

    I’m very pleased with my decision to skip this game and go see “A Complete Unknown” instead. Almost a perfect movie. I have to hand it to Chalamet, he was excellent, and Ed Norton was even better (both were totally believable singers/musicians). Elle Fanning was gorgeous as always and the woman who played Joan Baez was absolutely perfect. Set design was impeccable, really beautifully shot. The Johnny Cash character was a tiny bit over the top but adequate.

    Sorry, I’m clearly no Alan and haven’t seen a full-length motion picture in a while, but consider this an enthusiastic recommendation.

    It’s hard to be effective when you only get to plow once every three years

    To be fair, an ice storm in the south is just two inches of snow that nobody plowed because “god put it there, god will take it away.”

    Hahaha… I used to winter train my horses at Pinehurst, NC (the home of the famous Pinehurst #2 course), literally 2000f feet from the horse training track. Pinehurst was a town where you might expect Jem, Scout or Atticus Finch to come strolling down the street at any minute. The training center had an industrial strength road grader to smooth the training surfaces on a daily basis.

    It seldom snows significantly there , but one winter in the 1990s it snowed 2 feet one night. The city was paralyzed because the town didn’t have any equipment to move significant snows!

    They confiscated our road grader to clear the town’s streets and the horses didn’t get exercised for 10 days… welcome to rural America.

    I hope that we’re not back to the days where we need to hand out Edmond Sumner (now on the Sichuan Blue Whales) Awards to the scrub that we think is going to go for 30 against us on any given night. I thought those days were gone, but I’m a little worried about it at the moment.

    Since Christmas we’ve actually attempted the 8th most corner 3s in the NBA. We’re just hitting 27.7% of them.

    Mikal and OG are 1 and 2 in the NBA in corner 3s attempted during that time. 17.2% and 36% respectively.

    More broadly, Bridges has the 3rd most catch-and-shoot attempts during that time at 54. He’s hit 20.4% of them. OG is a middling 15/40.

    Seems like I made the right decision to skip last night’s game and go see Nosferatu with my wife instead. Nosferatu was amazing, it’s a familiar story of course, but it’s incredibly made and told. This game clearly wasn’t amazing in any sense.

    I don’t think there’s much to say about what’s going on with the team. Part of the problem is, to no one’s surprise, we’re not as good as OKC. I can’t imagine anyone here thought we were as good as OKC or Boston this year (Cleveland was a surprise to most).

    The other problem is how many minutes our starters are playing. Bridges, Hart, and Anunoby are 1, 2, and 3 in total minutes played. Brunson is 6 and is beat up. Most of the team looks pretty tired and that goes a long way in explaining why our 3s aren’t falling. I think Brunson needs to sit for a game or two to heal up and Bridges, Hart, and OG should see their minutes reduced. We might lose some games, but we’re losing games anyway.

    Some of this will also be mitigated once/if Mitch returns. Figure if he can play ~20 min/game we can put KAT at the 4 for 10-15 min/game which should have a cascading effect on the minutes for the rest of the team.

    I had a pretty bleh Friday night. Watched the Knicks debacle, then rented Venom: The Last Dance on prime. Terrible decisions lol

    We have had good injury luck so far, in fact we’ve had some of the best injury luck in the NBA. Does anybody think that is going to continue? I don’t.

    Thibs has been brute forcing his way through this regular season. Maybe everybody stays healthy and the team miraculously finds itself at full strength by the time the playoffs roll around. That seems like incredibly wishful thinking to me, but I suppose it is possible.

    The more likely scenario to me is that one or two of the top six misses some extended time with an injury, at which point the response will be to lean even more heavily on the remaining four players who are in the Circle Of Trust, exposing those players to more fatigue, lessened production, and more injury risk.

    The second half of this season could get very ugly. I’m not saying WILL. I’m saying COULD.

    Mitch has missed the whole season so far, Precious has missed 21 games, Deuce has missed 10, Shamet 29. That’s not good injury luck. That’s the main reason we are so worn down.

    We have had good injury luck so far, in fact we’ve had some of the best injury luck in the NBA. Does anybody think that is going to continue?

    I hope so.

    Someone suggested the other day that the top 3 seeds in the East are already locked in and I can’t think of a sillier idea.

    With extraordinary injury luck (our starters have missed just 5 games), we’re 3.5 games up on the Magic (whose starters have missed a whopping 61 games).

    We’re also just 3.5 games up on a Bucks team that started the year 2-8 and has had to play 7 games without Dame & 6 without Giannis. (I won’t count Middleton, that would be like counting Mitch; anything you get from those guys is a bonus).

    This time last year the Sixers were the 3 seed riding a wave of good health, 4 games up on the Knicks in the standings. If our injury luck turns bad we’ll sink just like they did.

    It’s hard to be effective when you only get to plow once every three years

    That’s what he said

    Re: the minutes thing, to be fair, our bench has been pretty bad so why would you play them?

    Precious is hopefully rounding into form; Deuce has been injured, and Payne has been middling at best. And those are our better bench players!

    Shamet, Ryan, and Sims have been mostly unplayable, and the rookies just aren’t ready to contribute.

    As much as I miss Mitch and want him back, part of me thinks a 2-for-1 Mitch trade would make more sense since we need bench players so badly. All we need are four guys who Thibs will play roughly 15 minutes each off the bench. That shouldn’t be impossible.

    Other teams play their bad bench players. Every opponent we face plays their bench players about twice as much as we do. Good teams, bad teams, doesn’t matter. We routinely play our bench half as many minutes as the opposition.

    And yeah, we’ve not had Mitch all year, but in terms of games missed due to injury, only Minnesota has had better injury luck than us.

    Anyone have any takes on the Hukporti Experience? I thought he mostly didn’t screw up and made an impact on a few plays defensively. Had that teardrop shot I didn’t know was in his arsenal.

    I’d be up for him taking some of Sims’ minutes. However many those are (29, 4, 0 in the last three games…).

    Also, just want to mention that Tosan Evbuomwan, undrafted from Princeton, scored 10 points last night for the Nets. Can we get him before Clyde retires, or is that too mean?

    We’ve blown out a lot of teams, we can afford to give the bench more minutes.

    Hubert, you’ve made me laugh a few times over the past few threads. Thanks!

    You’re welcome, Donnie! I can’t imagine how hard it must be for you right now to cope with the devastating loss of Jared McCain to a season-ending injury.

    hi bob…I hope all is well…

    over the years did you have any favorite horses…

    i don’t know a lot about horses, do they have really distinct personalities?

    was bobneptune actually the name of one of the horses you worked with?

    Mitch has missed the whole season so far, Precious has missed 21 games, Deuce has missed 10, Shamet 29. That’s not good injury luck. That’s the main reason we are so worn down.

    We’ve both been lucky in the “our best players have been spared sense” and unlucky in the “our injuries have been perfectly engineered to give Tom Thibodeau a semi plausible argument that his hands are tied and he simply has to play the best players 44 minutes” sense.

    Jusuf Nurkić has been benched by Phoenix.

    He’s been bad this season (I’m guessing) but has played very well on both sides in recent years by the AIOs. He’s 9th in 4yr DRAPM.

    He’s healthier than Mitch, though not what I’d call healthy, and he’s now 30.

    He makes around $2.2M less than Precious and Mitch combined, allowing us to sign TJ if that’s really what we want to do.

    We’d need to send one of Mitch and Precious elsewhere because of cap stuff.

    Not an endorsement and not saying PHX agrees either, just kicking the idea around.

    for fuck’s sake somebody anybody please tell me you know it was my joke. i have a child to feed.

    PT – I understood you were making the joke but I think Hubert popularized it.

    Also, you must be deep in the poker streets to borrow from Nick Schulman there….

    “I have a daughter” is his line

    I understood you were making the joke but I think Hubert popularized it.

    Isn’t that how history tends to work? Cf Elon and Tesla

    good find on the clyde stuff cyber…

    he sounds so like the voice of reason…

    hope you’re having a chance to get outside and walking…

    finished the first Silo book, Wool…good stuff, interesting sci fi…

    The rice and beans at el pescador. Just fucking perfect. Sofrito of the gods.

    Now the Pittsburgh Steelers, that’s a team that’s stuck in the purgatorial mezzanine

    had to wait to finish dinner, checking the food photos for those spots now – wow, that’s some serious food finds there clarence…making me hungry again…

    El Pescador is pretty special. Their black rice and calamari is one of my favorite rice dishes from anywhere.

    Also Tetas. Tetas in Cidra. Delicious.

    El Pescador is pretty special. Their black rice and calamari is one of my favorite rice dishes from anywhere.

    Has Clarence Beeks returned incognito?

    “Has Clarence Beeks returned incognito?”

    Of course it’s Clarence, and he’s not even trying to pretend otherwise. Who else would repeatedly post about such stupid shit as foods that he’s eating in random places?

    Not so random. I chase the sun. Ever, heard the song Lluvia con nieve by Mon Rivera Doogie? I think you’d love it. Thanks Ess.

    look at that, i had thought the bloody-nine was some reference to – i had no idea…maybe a restaurant?

    seems crazy now, but that was my best guess, for a while…

    turns out it’s off some cool fantasy series, and B9 is some kind of avenging spirit thing…well done sir…

    You’re funny too, pt, but Hubert made me laugh yesterday with the Edgar Allan Poe bit too.

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